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Quote from: dewez on July 22, 2023, 10:31:13 AM

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Any ETA on the launch?

thats a good idea. this wednesday. give or take a day.

Are we there yet?

I did mention earlier that setting a timer to count down to the launch moment would have been a great idea! It would have motivated you to avoid messing up the launch window. Cheesy

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 24, 2023, 08:11:36 AM

Quote from: expexp on July 23, 2023, 11:58:41 PM

He changed to *provably fair. server/client/nonce*. Thats why i said scam. No one believes in this provably fair

You still repeat this despite not adding sensible details to back your claim. I don't know how you prioritise your careful use of words, I guess it goes a long way as some careless declaration could be so insensitive and misleading. Has he even launched the site to ascertain whether he's right or wrong with the provably fair remarks?

This is a business, the least you can do to support a startup is to be fair.

you are right on this. before someone accuses a site of not practicing like the provable fairness, he needs to have a solid proof on what he is alleging. because it can taint the image of the site because of baseless accusations.
but if it is only an empty accusation, people will still proceed of playing on the site. it is now up to the site owners how they will deal with their patrons and prove that they are always practicing such fairness.

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Do I really need to post examples why I think microsoft is bad in this topic?

Again, you're practically stating a company that does bad things cannot innovate despite of that fact. I am not defending Microsoft here, I am simply stating there are some areas where they have done well.

Your personal opinion of Microsoft does not change the fact that while passwordless login may not be a perfect solution, it can be a very effective one for a ton of use cases. However, I agree with you that relying on E-mail solely may end up being bad due to E-mail delivery issues and what not.

But please, it is not constructive to resort to ultimatums like you do with Microsoft. Instead, accept the fact that usually nothing is ever so bad that there isn't a shred of good in it.

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Lets get back on l0tt0 topic.
One more day left for website new launch Cool

Agreed. Excited about that! Looking forward to finally having the site open for players again.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 24, 2023, 12:41:58 PM

Simply stating Microsoft is not a good example for anything without further expanding on your point makes that a fairly poor argument.

Do I really need to post examples why I think microsoft is bad in this topic?
This is going to be very long list and I dont want to go offtopic, but ask any security expert and he will explain it much better than me.

Quote from: BoXXoB on July 24, 2023, 12:41:58 PM

Microsoft Authenticator is pretty good. For example, to fight phishing, when logging into their services they display a number on the screen that you need to type into the authenticator. That is an awesome feature and makes logging in super secure from phishing standing point.

They didnt invent a wheel with Microsoft Authenticator and I would NEVER use this app for anything Roll Eyes

Nobody should use app that dont allow backup or export without microsoft account, I guess because they love spying people.

Lets get back on l0tt0 topic.
One more day left for website new launch Cool

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Quote from: Pascal Parvex on July 22, 2023, 04:50:59 PM

Nice under-construction pixel art.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 22, 2023, 04:32:12 PM

Microsoft is not a good example for anything and passwordless login is not good for everything, but people using same passwords many times is a human error problem.

Simply stating Microsoft is not a good example for anything without further expanding on your point makes that a fairly poor argument.

Yes, Microsoft has its issues and there was some pretty big cyber-security related incident with them recently. Windows is also not the pinnacle of security. We all or most of us probably know this.

However, it's not very well-thought to bash Microsoft in entirety due to this. Microsoft Authenticator is pretty good. For example, to fight phishing, when logging into their services they display a number on the screen that you need to type into the authenticator. That is an awesome feature and makes logging in super secure from phishing standing point.

It's convenient you mention human error because that is literally the biggest cyber-security threat there is. That's what we need to be fighting when it comes to day-to-day tasks such as logging in to services. Other things are pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things for the average user.

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Quote from: expexp on July 23, 2023, 11:58:41 PM

He changed to *provably fair. server/client/nonce*. Thats why i said scam. No one believes in this provably fair

You still repeat this despite not adding sensible details to back your claim. I don't know how you prioritise your careful use of words, I guess it goes a long way as some careless declaration could be so insensitive and misleading. Has he even launched the site to ascertain whether he's right or wrong with the provably fair remarks?

This is a business, the least you can do to support a startup is to be fair.

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Quote from: expexp on July 23, 2023, 11:58:41 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on July 22, 2023, 10:39:31 PM

Quote from: expexp on July 22, 2023, 06:19:05 PM

well now its a scam

How can you say that? You have created your account in 2017, and you haven't created any good posts at all, and now you have replied to this thread by claiming it as a scam? Are you okay or you just replied out of no where, and yes, I recommend you to not posts such useless words if you aren't aware that what's going on.

As far as the project's authenticity is mattered then I don't thing that anyone who's doing a scam would pay of money to the participants even if the site is still going under construction. That shows that the owner of the site is really doing his best to make a good casino that would offer fair gameplay rewards to the users. I would also recommend you to no create any posts of replies without any proper proof because such allegations doesn't make sense at all.

He changed to *provably fair. server/client/nonce*. Thats why i said scam. No one believes in this provably fair

haha oh no? why dont you explain this to us.

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Quote from: SamReomo on July 22, 2023, 10:39:31 PM

Quote from: expexp on July 22, 2023, 06:19:05 PM

well now its a scam

How can you say that? You have created your account in 2017, and you haven't created any good posts at all, and now you have replied to this thread by claiming it as a scam? Are you okay or you just replied out of no where, and yes, I recommend you to not posts such useless words if you aren't aware that what's going on.

As far as the project's authenticity is mattered then I don't thing that anyone who's doing a scam would pay of money to the participants even if the site is still going under construction. That shows that the owner of the site is really doing his best to make a good casino that would offer fair gameplay rewards to the users. I would also recommend you to no create any posts of replies without any proper proof because such allegations doesn't make sense at all.

He changed to *provably fair. server/client/nonce*. Thats why i said scam. No one believes in this provably fair

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 09:43:11 AM

whats up everyone.
so the new launch will be next wednesday. 7/26

I'm glad we finally have a launch date, I can't wait for my profile message to be changed to "L0tt0 is launched."

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 10:48:20 AM

I agree. There's a reason Microsoft and others are pushing passwordless login everywhere. People re-use passwords and store them insecurely. Atleast by using E-mail you only have that one account to secure.

Microsoft is not a good example for anything and passwordless login is not good for everything, but people using same passwords many times is a human error problem.

Let me correct you there, I don't know your issue with Microsoft but they are good for many things and this is evident around you. Regardless, the passwordless login might have its own flaws, but certainly not a totally bad idea. Everybody can't be a tech guru, which is more reason why there are many victims associated with password logins. Even the browser and OS we use could compromise, I'm sure of Google products on this.

Passwords do leak or get compromised no matter how brilliant you are in your combination, and suggesting an alternative can't be a bad idea. After all, there is room for further improvements after much testing.

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Quote from: expexp on July 22, 2023, 06:19:05 PM

well now its a scam

How can you say that? You have created your account in 2017, and you haven't created any good posts at all, and now you have replied to this thread by claiming it as a scam? Are you okay or you just replied out of no where, and yes, I recommend you to not posts such useless words if you aren't aware that what's going on.

As far as the project's authenticity is mattered then I don't thing that anyone who's doing a scam would pay of money to the participants even if the site is still going under construction. That shows that the owner of the site is really doing his best to make a good casino that would offer fair gameplay rewards to the users. I would also recommend you to no create any posts of replies without any proper proof because such allegations doesn't make sense at all.

You don't need to bother yourself with some people's idiocy, no right sensed person can believe such a random and an unconstructive comment. My advice is that he should get help, it's obvious he needs it.

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Quote from: expexp on July 22, 2023, 06:19:05 PM

well now its a scam

How can you say that? You have created your account in 2017, and you haven't created any good posts at all, and now you have replied to this thread by claiming it as a scam? Are you okay or you just replied out of no where, and yes, I recommend you to not posts such useless words if you aren't aware that what's going on.

As far as the project's authenticity is mattered then I don't thing that anyone who's doing a scam would pay of money to the participants even if the site is still going under construction. That shows that the owner of the site is really doing his best to make a good casino that would offer fair gameplay rewards to the users. I would also recommend you to no create any posts of replies without any proper proof because such allegations doesn't make sense at all.

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 09:43:11 AM

whats up everyone.
so the new launch will be next wednesday. 7/26

CHANGES:
-I changed the site to provably fair. server/client/nonce. As much as I loved my original idea of using the price of bitcoin for the winning numbers- its an uphill battle. It's just better this way, so thank you for your input. Maybe I can use that concept in a single game- or down the road with some other project.
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well now its a scam

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Nice under-construction pixel art.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 10:48:20 AM

I agree. There's a reason Microsoft and others are pushing passwordless login everywhere. People re-use passwords and store them insecurely. Atleast by using E-mail you only have that one account to secure.

Microsoft is not a good example for anything and passwordless login is not good for everything, but people using same passwords many times is a human error problem.
People using only one email address for everything is also not good, and I saw many examples of people getting scammed with emails.
Let me name just few problems with email address from personal examples, I send email but other person never receives it because google or microsoft marks it as spam.
Than email servers can become unavailable, locked or blocked for some reason, and that means I cant access any website connected with that address.
Most contnet of email addresses are not encrypted so everyone can read and monitor them, and people need to use guess what to use emails? LOGIN and PASSWORD Grin

Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 10:48:20 AM

However, I would personally add an option for 2FA on top of the login. It can be an optional feature but should exist nonetheless.

2FA is good to have if it is optional.

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This idea will be perfect if there's already many players since the round might be stagnant for a long time if there's no enough players to fill 100 spot. I think hving an expiration date will make players refund their bets once the slot doesn't fill for a long time.

Any ETA on the launch?

thats a good idea. this wednesday. give or take a day.

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Quote from: dewez on July 21, 2023, 02:21:24 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on July 21, 2023, 12:16:22 PM

@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

so my first version of l0tt0 was like it.. no login, winnings sent to the address you paid from, but most people don't have their btc in a personal wallet. its on an exchange, paypal, etc. and the address you send/withdraw from can't recieve payments.. i mean they can, but it will not get credited to your account.

This is fair point and I didn’t consider it. It’s dumb to use exchange as storage of holdings yet many still doing this just to have an easy access on trade when there’s a price fluctuation. But I’m thinking about this feature as an optional for those who want to place bet without account on your specific game such as the mega lotto. Placing a note that using an exchange wallet is not allowed or something.

Quote from: dewez on July 21, 2023, 02:21:24 PM

regarding the big lotto game.. i have one. mega lotto. my plan is to add it once the site gets some steady activity. its a fun game. 100 numbers to bet on (0-99), once all 100 numbers are bet on, the winning number is triggered. winner takes all. bets start at $1- which increases if the current game is completed in less time than the game before.. if longer, it goes down. it will be a fun addition. just need activity.

This idea will be perfect if there's already many players since the round might be stagnant for a long time if there's no enough players to fill 100 spot. I think hving an expiration date will make players refund their bets once the slot doesn't fill for a long time.

Any ETA on the launch?

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Welcome back to the forum, dewez! Wink

It seems like you've had a busy week, and I totally understand what it's like to be the sole developer. But hey, I'm glad that we finally have a (re)launch date for l0tt0.com! Small suggestion: Adding a timer with a countdown could be an interesting idea. It would certainly make the "under construction" page more engaging and captivating for visitors.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 21, 2023, 12:16:22 PM

@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

so my first version of l0tt0 was like it.. no login, winnings sent to the address you paid from, but most people don't have their btc in a personal wallet. its on an exchange, paypal, etc. and the address you send/withdraw from can't recieve payments.. i mean they can, but it will not get credited to your account.

regarding the big lotto game.. i have one. mega lotto. my plan is to add it once the site gets some steady activity. its a fun game. 100 numbers to bet on (0-99), once all 100 numbers are bet on, the winning number is triggered. winner takes all. bets start at $1- which increases if the current game is completed in less time than the game before.. if longer, it goes down. it will be a fun addition. just need activity.

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@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 11:01:21 AM

Quote from: SamReomo on July 21, 2023, 10:58:58 AM

However, I don't think that it's necessary because the system is already a very secure one and those users will understand the importance of password-less login system very soon.

The problem with using E-mail solely without (optional) 2FA is that E-mail is not really a secure means of communication. To those users who want as much security as possible, 2FA is necessary.

I agree with you, and yeah 2FA is more secure than E-mail only, and that's why I also believe that the 2FA should be implemented into L0tt0 system so that the users will have higher security than E-mail only. All of the top level casinos have implemented the 2FA in their systems and that's why I think it would be a great optional feature on L0tt0.com as well.

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