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Quote from: dewez on July 21, 2023, 02:21:24 PM

Quote from: Coin_trader on July 21, 2023, 12:16:22 PM

@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

so my first version of l0tt0 was like it.. no login, winnings sent to the address you paid from, but most people don't have their btc in a personal wallet. its on an exchange, paypal, etc. and the address you send/withdraw from can't recieve payments.. i mean they can, but it will not get credited to your account.

This is fair point and I didn’t consider it. It’s dumb to use exchange as storage of holdings yet many still doing this just to have an easy access on trade when there’s a price fluctuation. But I’m thinking about this feature as an optional for those who want to place bet without account on your specific game such as the mega lotto. Placing a note that using an exchange wallet is not allowed or something.

Quote from: dewez on July 21, 2023, 02:21:24 PM

regarding the big lotto game.. i have one. mega lotto. my plan is to add it once the site gets some steady activity. its a fun game. 100 numbers to bet on (0-99), once all 100 numbers are bet on, the winning number is triggered. winner takes all. bets start at $1- which increases if the current game is completed in less time than the game before.. if longer, it goes down. it will be a fun addition. just need activity.

This idea will be perfect if there's already many players since the round might be stagnant for a long time if there's no enough players to fill 100 spot. I think hving an expiration date will make players refund their bets once the slot doesn't fill for a long time.

Any ETA on the launch?

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Welcome back to the forum, dewez! Wink

It seems like you've had a busy week, and I totally understand what it's like to be the sole developer. But hey, I'm glad that we finally have a (re)launch date for l0tt0.com! Small suggestion: Adding a timer with a countdown could be an interesting idea. It would certainly make the "under construction" page more engaging and captivating for visitors.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 21, 2023, 12:16:22 PM

@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

so my first version of l0tt0 was like it.. no login, winnings sent to the address you paid from, but most people don't have their btc in a personal wallet. its on an exchange, paypal, etc. and the address you send/withdraw from can't recieve payments.. i mean they can, but it will not get credited to your account.

regarding the big lotto game.. i have one. mega lotto. my plan is to add it once the site gets some steady activity. its a fun game. 100 numbers to bet on (0-99), once all 100 numbers are bet on, the winning number is triggered. winner takes all. bets start at $1- which increases if the current game is completed in less time than the game before.. if longer, it goes down. it will be a fun addition. just need activity.

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@Dewez, This is just a wild idea after reading the login option discussion above, I remember a very popular decentralized casino here called directbet.eu that doesn't require an account to place a bet. It only needs a Bitcoin wallet address to log in. The casino just provides a unique wallet address to place a bet using the specific wallet address that the user uses to log in on the website. There's no casino account but the user can bet by sending Bitcoin to a unique address and then automatically sending a payout to the same address if he wins. Having this kind of feature can make users make a quick bet without the need to deposit on a casino account.

I just hope that you will introduce a one-time big-time lotto game such as once a day result with a huge prize pool for fixed ticket value like the classic lotto games.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 11:01:21 AM

Quote from: SamReomo on July 21, 2023, 10:58:58 AM

However, I don't think that it's necessary because the system is already a very secure one and those users will understand the importance of password-less login system very soon.

The problem with using E-mail solely without (optional) 2FA is that E-mail is not really a secure means of communication. To those users who want as much security as possible, 2FA is necessary.

I agree with you, and yeah 2FA is more secure than E-mail only, and that's why I also believe that the 2FA should be implemented into L0tt0 system so that the users will have higher security than E-mail only. All of the top level casinos have implemented the 2FA in their systems and that's why I think it would be a great optional feature on L0tt0.com as well.

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Quote from: SamReomo on July 21, 2023, 10:58:58 AM

However, I don't think that it's necessary because the system is already a very secure one and those users will understand the importance of password-less login system very soon.

The problem with using E-mail solely without (optional) 2FA is that E-mail is not really a secure means of communication. To those users who want as much security as possible, 2FA is necessary.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on July 21, 2023, 10:48:20 AM

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

The question is, will you implement a system based on your preferences or based on player's preferences? As we all know the username with password system is the most used one in most all casinos which means most players are familiar with this system already. Having different account system is unique but I think you should also add the most used system too.

it's not about my preference. it's not secure. fact.. with cracking power nowadays- ANY leaked password is a death sentence. I can promise you that 75% of people use one form of a password, or god forbid the same. yes, i would salt and hash them... but this is a system we need to get away from, actually run from.

i just figured that with 2f being so wide spread- people have access to their email on the reg, people with crypto should be used to it. the device thing, i totally get- which is why i'm adding a code email where you can type it in.

but username and passwords? shit guys. i thought we were better than that. i'm the one who will have to deal with hacked accounts and jacked btc.
but i mean...... if that's really what people want... maybe i can come up with something.

I agree. There's a reason Microsoft and others are pushing passwordless login everywhere. People re-use passwords and store them insecurely. Atleast by using E-mail you only have that one account to secure.

However, I would personally add an option for 2FA on top of the login. It can be an optional feature but should exist nonetheless.

That's very true the password-less login is a quite successful method these days and all of the major sites should implement such type of mechanisms to make users safe from database hacks. I have seen that many users tend to use same usernames and passwords on multiple sites and if any of those sites gets hacked and the database gets leaked then all those users will suffer.

The e-mail address is quite a secure way to receive passwords because everyone uses his/her e-mail address during account registration, and they always have access to that e-mail address because they know that the e-mail address is really worthy because all of the accounts on other sites are created using that e-mail address.

The implementation of 2FA should be a really nice step as that's also known for its security. I also think that 2FA should be an optional feature for those users who think that receiving passwords on e-mail isn't safe. However, I don't think that it's necessary because the system is already a very secure one and those users will understand the importance of password-less login system very soon.

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Quote from: dewez on July 21, 2023, 07:01:15 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on July 21, 2023, 01:07:11 AM

Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

The question is, will you implement a system based on your preferences or based on player's preferences? As we all know the username with password system is the most used one in most all casinos which means most players are familiar with this system already. Having different account system is unique but I think you should also add the most used system too.

it's not about my preference. it's not secure. fact.. with cracking power nowadays- ANY leaked password is a death sentence. I can promise you that 75% of people use one form of a password, or god forbid the same. yes, i would salt and hash them... but this is a system we need to get away from, actually run from.

i just figured that with 2f being so wide spread- people have access to their email on the reg, people with crypto should be used to it. the device thing, i totally get- which is why i'm adding a code email where you can type it in.

but username and passwords? shit guys. i thought we were better than that. i'm the one who will have to deal with hacked accounts and jacked btc.
but i mean...... if that's really what people want... maybe i can come up with something.

I agree. There's a reason Microsoft and others are pushing passwordless login everywhere. People re-use passwords and store them insecurely. Atleast by using E-mail you only have that one account to secure.

However, I would personally add an option for 2FA on top of the login. It can be an optional feature but should exist nonetheless.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 21, 2023, 01:07:11 AM

Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

The question is, will you implement a system based on your preferences or based on player's preferences? As we all know the username with password system is the most used one in most all casinos which means most players are familiar with this system already. Having different account system is unique but I think you should also add the most used system too.

it's not about my preference. it's not secure. fact.. with cracking power nowadays- ANY leaked password is a death sentence. I can promise you that 75% of people use one form of a password, or god forbid the same. yes, i would salt and hash them... but this is a system we need to get away from, actually run from.

i just figured that with 2f being so wide spread- people have access to their email on the reg, people with crypto should be used to it. the device thing, i totally get- which is why i'm adding a code email where you can type it in.

but username and passwords? shit guys. i thought we were better than that. i'm the one who will have to deal with hacked accounts and jacked btc.
but i mean...... if that's really what people want... maybe i can come up with something.

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

The question is, will you implement a system based on your preferences or based on player's preferences? As we all know the username with password system is the most used one in most all casinos which means most players are familiar with this system already. Having different account system is unique but I think you should also add the most used system too.

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

Different people will have different demands. Some will like usernames and some will not like or not need it at all.

Information, I know some casinos allow their users to change display names and no limited times to do it. The casino has its data base to always know who is that user and display names can be changed many times but the casino does not lose track on that account.

Quote from: notblox1 on July 20, 2023, 06:01:50 PM

You dont have to add username and passwords and I dont like that system, but you can send longer term codes that could work more than one time.
Default option can stay, but sometimes I cant access my email address or I am using different device, so it is impossible to use password manager for login.

As said, you don't like it but other might like it and want to have it.

If dewez can deploy optional system for username and password, users can choose what they like to use. If it brings no harm to the casino security, it's good for deployment.

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 05:59:21 PM

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

You dont have to add username and passwords and I dont like that system, but you can send longer term codes that could work more than one time.
Default option can stay, but sometimes I cant access my email address or I am using different device, so it is impossible to use password manager for login.

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If there is time for more updates maybe you can think of a way to optionally remember login details, so that I dont have to enter email address and click to login on website every time.
Another important thing for me is good Support, because I had bad experience with other casinos, so don't forget to work on that part.

you would really prefer username/password login? I just hate that system. the current system is so elegant. I was thinking of emailing a code- which you type it, to help with people on different devices.

support- I agree.. I will be adding a ticket system after launch, but not now.

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Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 09:43:11 AM

whats up everyone.
so the new launch will be next wednesday. 7/26

Great news!
Thank you for finally adding release date for new update launch, because I was checking website every day and expecting to see new update. Wink

Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 09:43:11 AM

I think these changes will make for a great re-launch. I'm excited to see what everyone thinks. I thank you for your input.

If there is time for more updates maybe you can think of a way to optionally remember login details, so that I dont have to enter email address and click to login on website every time.
Another important thing for me is good Support, because I had bad experience with other casinos, so don't forget to work on that part.

Quote from: dewez on July 19, 2023, 10:49:50 AM

I'm the sole php developer. I have a designer and two css people. Can't do everything.. But when it comes to the functionality of my site, I enjoy knowing how everything works and not relying on anyone else. In the past, I've been in the position of having my php guy quit and being left to someone else's code. Never again. Also when it comes to deposits, I want to be the only person with access to the wallet and its code.

I respect your decision and it is better for security if you are the only one with the access to the wallet with coins, but I rally hope this is stored in cold storage.

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You are the only developer working on website?
I see no problem when websites are under construction, but please try to announce this in forum or in social media next time.
Website is now working fine for me but I didnt see any big visible changes.

I'm the sole php developer. I have a designer and two css people. Can't do everything.. But when it comes to the functionality of my site, I enjoy knowing how everything works and not relying on anyone else. In the past, I've been in the position of having my php guy quit and being left to someone else's code. Never again. Also when it comes to deposits, I want to be the only person with access to the wallet and its code.

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I believe the owner is not aware that campaign can be pause temporarily while the update is ongoing. There’s no result being made for signature campaign at this condition since no one can try the casino if ever someone click the participants signature campaign.

However, I understand too if they to promote the brand as prepartion when their website become online so that user here will don't forget their existence since they already have the introduction before. The owner last login is yesterday so I think he is aware on what's happening here. I'm excited on what's coming here since the owner is very creative on his games.

heh. of course I am. I just didn't see a reason for it. I certainly would if it was an standard ad campaign.. that would just be silly. but our sig people are building up posts which will pay off later. Plus...... isn't there something just so fun about it? haha. two weeks of sending a sig camp into a come back soon page? Maybe I'm just nuts, but I feel it builds anticipation- and in some small way, trust.

Regardless of all that, I didn't want to pause on our sig people just to save a few bucks.

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whats up everyone.
so the new launch will be next wednesday. 7/26

CHANGES:
-I changed the site to provably fair. server/client/nonce. As much as I loved my original idea of using the price of bitcoin for the winning numbers- its an uphill battle. It's just better this way, so thank you for your input. Maybe I can use that concept in a single game- or down the road with some other project.
-I have added a bet history, wins and loses, for all games. I have also added a view bet option- so you can see the game outcome for every game played.
-I have added a new game, Lucky 7's. And have two other games in the pipe.

I think these changes will make for a great re-launch. I'm excited to see what everyone thinks. I thank you for your input.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on July 13, 2023, 10:03:13 AM

I have taken a look at your website but unfortunately it seems to be made up of only a single page with the message that the website is still being worked on, so I cannot vouch for the legitimacy of any games that you may have to offer. I do like the retro yellow look which you have adopted for your signatures as well as for your brand marketing. The bright yellow color really lures in everyone's attention.

I hope that you will be active in the community as well as fair. Please note that the Bitcointalk community can be very strict and always has an eye out for even tiny details. So it is in your best interest to maintain a squeaky clean reputation!

That's kinda late but they will surely appreciate it. For now, it's normal to see a single page because like you said, the site is being re-constructed but when it's done, there will be other pages where you will be redirected once you click its contents. They have that kind of design on their signatures because that was also the theme of their gambling site. It was indeed great even though it is only simple.

We appreciate it because we are into old school or retro stuffs but for some modern kids, I'm not sure if they will have the same impression. OP is replying here sometimes. I guess that is fine than nothing at all. They should welcome any criticism that they will receive and use it to improve their site more. Nothing is perfect so to have that squeaky-clean reputation is not possible.

As long as there is no complaints yet on their site, they won't be judged by the people.
But when they start their operations again, they need to be aggressive as people can easily hop from one gambling site to another.
Sustaining their players is hard as people want to try new things these days. If they are not satisfied and happy, they will just move on to the next.
By the way, they should have paused their sig campaign while they are fixing the site. Well, if they don't worry the funds, that's fine.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on July 13, 2023, 10:03:13 AM

I have taken a look at your website but unfortunately it seems to be made up of only a single page with the message that the website is still being worked on, so I cannot vouch for the legitimacy of any games that you may have to offer. I do like the retro yellow look which you have adopted for your signatures as well as for your brand marketing. The bright yellow color really lures in everyone's attention.

I hope that you will be active in the community as well as fair. Please note that the Bitcointalk community can be very strict and always has an eye out for even tiny details. So it is in your best interest to maintain a squeaky clean reputation!

That's kinda late but they will surely appreciate it. For now, it's normal to see a single page because like you said, the site is being re-constructed but when it's done, there will be other pages where you will be redirected once you click its contents. They have that kind of design on their signatures because that was also the theme of their gambling site. It was indeed great even though it is only simple.

We appreciate it because we are into old school or retro stuffs but for some modern kids, I'm not sure if they will have the same impression. OP is replying here sometimes. I guess that is fine than nothing at all. They should welcome any criticism that they will receive and use it to improve their site more. Nothing is perfect so to have that squeaky-clean reputation is not possible.

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Quote from: FatFork on July 14, 2023, 05:01:06 AM

Yes, it does seem a bit unusual to continue running a signature campaign while the site is still undergoing updates or upgrades. In my opinion, it would have been better if the campaign had been temporarily paused and then resumed once the site upgrade was completed. Perhaps he wasn't aware that pausing the campaign was an option?

It is indeed strange that they haven't paused the signature campaign while the website is under construction for more than two weeks. I think l0tt0.com team knows that they have the option to pause the signature campaign until the development is completed. Maybe they haven't done it with a positive mindset. l0tt0 team should have kept the site active for the bettors with the games they had. Wasn't it possible for them to add new games and make the necessary changes by keeping the site active?

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Quote from: FatFork on July 14, 2023, 05:01:06 AM

Yes, it does seem a bit unusual to continue running a signature campaign while the site is still undergoing updates or upgrades. In my opinion, it would have been better if the campaign had been temporarily paused and then resumed once the site upgrade was completed. Perhaps he wasn't aware that pausing the campaign was an option?

More people heard about l0tto website in last few days and I dont see why they would pause anything just to save few bucks is so silly, when they want to have long term campaign in forum,
They didnt hire 100 people and they wont spend a fortune in few weeks, but they showed how serious they are with this promotion.
I really like what they are doing and I am not saying this because of my current signature.

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