La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 - page 8.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on July 24, 2019, 03:05:57 PM

The dependency on Messi is still very high in that when he is not on pitch.......

You can't blame Barcelona for being dependent on Messi, Messi is the best player in history, his quality is undoubtedly magical and any team will depend on Messi to pull strings for them.
Many good players have come and go for Barcelona, but Messi still stood out amongst them, all Barcelona need is few good players to augment Messi's quality and honestly they've made good signings this transfer window and I think Messi's Job will be reduced.

The fact is true. That Barcelona without messi is like food without seasoning. That is why Barcelona if there is no messi always lacks enthusiasm and can even experience defeat. It should be true that Barcelona must get used to without messi, because we never know if someday messi is injured or even retired.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on July 24, 2019, 03:05:57 PM

The dependency on Messi is still very high in that when he is not on pitch.......

You can't blame Barcelona for being dependent on Messi, Messi is the best player in history, his quality is undoubtedly magical and any team will depend on Messi to pull strings for them.
Many good players have come and go for Barcelona, but Messi still stood out amongst them, all Barcelona need is few good players to augment Messi's quality and honestly they've made good signings this transfer window and I think Messi's Job will be reduced.

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Quote from: andrearz on July 23, 2019, 01:36:53 AM

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Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

Rival is truly extraordinary, this proves again that Japanese players can play at the European level. Real Madrid and Barcelona both have players from Japan and these two players are indeed talented. I was curious how later in El Clasico, would the two players from Japan be played together.

This will be good for the development of Asian football because those 2 players prove that Asian talent is also able to compete with European players, I hope they become new star players in the football industry.

There is also added bonus of Asian market penetration. I am quite sure big part of that signings is the fact that both clubs will greatly expand their fan base in Japan. All major European clubs are going out of their way to play matches in Asia & USA to expand their fan base and sell more merchandise. This is just a next step in that global branding strategy.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 24, 2019, 02:07:18 PM

Barcelona needs a lot of signing and a great refreshment in the squad.
They lost in the last friendly match from Chelsea. And they seemed unable to be competitive to a team that cannot sign any player and they lost from the main their best player.

Barcelona have tried to sign players... Just look at their transfers in the last 2-3 seasons. The problem is every thing still rotates around Messi especially in the forward position.

Most players that are signed slowly fade away into the shadows and end up getting sold off later without contributing as expected when they were first signed. The dependency on Messi is still very high in that when he is not on pitch, Barcelona look ordinary with no fear factor.
Luckily for Barcelona, Messi Fitness levels are top notch. I don't even remember ever hearing that Messi got injured and is ruled out for lets say 3 months

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Quote from: iyah adrian on July 23, 2019, 04:04:26 PM

Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

All I know is Takefusa Kubo. If I'm not mistaken, he is from Barcelona Barcelona and currently he is playing for Real Madrid. Really very unique, Takefusa Kubo indeed aspires to be able to play for real Madrid with the ability now that dream has come true.

Barcelona needs a lot of signing and a great refreshment in the squad.
They lost in the last friendly match from Chelsea. And they seemed unable to be competitive to a team that cannot sign any player and they lost from the main their best player.

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Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

All I know is Takefusa Kubo. If I'm not mistaken, he is from Barcelona Barcelona and currently he is playing for Real Madrid. Really very unique, Takefusa Kubo indeed aspires to be able to play for real Madrid with the ability now that dream has come true.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 23, 2019, 12:01:07 PM

Quote from: rachman mahesa on July 23, 2019, 06:54:02 AM

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

yup, he is very talented, but with his frequent injuries this makes the club lose a little to buy him because injury means that he will contribute less to the club.

Bale = Injury
Maybe it is true that if we think of bale, certainly what we have in mind is injury. I have to admit that Bale is a very talented player, but if he is susceptible to injury, surely people who want to buy it will think. If the club really wants to buy a bale, of course they must see this fact.

He used to be injured many times.
I think that now he is in a great form (the only negative point is that he is older that in the start of his career) and he can help any team he joins a lot.
It was very sad not to seeing him developing and growing his talents in Real Madrid. I hope that he will join another team in this transfer window and show that he is a valuable player than he used to be.

I think that every club should come to terms with a large fee for a player, if he is worth it. If a team shows good results, then they will always be able to return good money later. And in this case, age is equivalent to the professionalism of the player.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on July 23, 2019, 06:54:02 AM

Quote from: andrearz on July 23, 2019, 12:38:30 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

yup, he is very talented, but with his frequent injuries this makes the club lose a little to buy him because injury means that he will contribute less to the club.

Bale = Injury
Maybe it is true that if we think of bale, certainly what we have in mind is injury. I have to admit that Bale is a very talented player, but if he is susceptible to injury, surely people who want to buy it will think. If the club really wants to buy a bale, of course they must see this fact.

He used to be injured many times.
I think that now he is in a great form (the only negative point is that he is older that in the start of his career) and he can help any team he joins a lot.
It was very sad not to seeing him developing and growing his talents in Real Madrid. I hope that he will join another team in this transfer window and show that he is a valuable player than he used to be.

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Quote from: andrearz on July 23, 2019, 01:36:53 AM

Quote from: rachman mahesa on July 22, 2019, 05:56:47 PM

Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

Rival is truly extraordinary, this proves again that Japanese players can play at the European level. Real Madrid and Barcelona both have players from Japan and these two players are indeed talented. I was curious how later in El Clasico, would the two players from Japan be played together.

This will be good for the development of Asian football because those 2 players prove that Asian talent is also able to compete with European players, I hope they become new star players in the football industry.

yes I agree, how it used to be through its predecessor, there are several names like NAKATA, PARK JI SUNG who play in Italian and English leagues who have successfully played in Europe. I hope this time can also bring Asian good names

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Quote from: andrearz on July 23, 2019, 12:38:30 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

yup, he is very talented, but with his frequent injuries this makes the club lose a little to buy him because injury means that he will contribute less to the club.

Bale = Injury
Maybe it is true that if we think of bale, certainly what we have in mind is injury. I have to admit that Bale is a very talented player, but if he is susceptible to injury, surely people who want to buy it will think. If the club really wants to buy a bale, of course they must see this fact.

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Quote from: rachman mahesa on July 22, 2019, 05:56:47 PM

Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

Rival is truly extraordinary, this proves again that Japanese players can play at the European level. Real Madrid and Barcelona both have players from Japan and these two players are indeed talented. I was curious how later in El Clasico, would the two players from Japan be played together.

This will be good for the development of Asian football because those 2 players prove that Asian talent is also able to compete with European players, I hope they become new star players in the football industry.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

yup, he is very talented, but with his frequent injuries this makes the club lose a little to buy him because injury means that he will contribute less to the club.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:18:08 PM

Quote from: Harkorede on July 22, 2019, 12:10:33 PM

Clubs would be willing to gamble on his injury records and to also overlook his age because at least he can still offer 2 or more seasons at his current level, but the major turn off for clubs will be his cumbersome wages, and he's definitely not go to settle for anything way less than his current wages at Real Madrid, So he probably would rather sit out the remainder of his playing days at Madrid under such paycheck.

I read some stuff from Zidane being quite disrespectful about Bale. He’s scored in about 3 CL Finals for Real. At any other club he’d get the keys to the city. I think they should show him more respect & love but I guess all good things cone to an end.

I understand your view, and maybe you're right about Real Madrid and Zidane not managing the situation in the best way possible. It is clearly for Zidane to have come out which such a statement in a public interview, It would have been more respectful if the conversation had only ensued between both parties.

Bale on the other hand should understand that these things happens in football, there's nothing like being indispensable in football, every player has their prime, and their relevance to any club is paramount only at such level.

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Quote from: maculeth on July 22, 2019, 12:31:15 PM

from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

Rival is truly extraordinary, this proves again that Japanese players can play at the European level. Real Madrid and Barcelona both have players from Japan and these two players are indeed talented. I was curious how later in El Clasico, would the two players from Japan be played together.

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from TOKYO, two Japanese players, Takefusa Kubo and Hiroki Abe, were recruited by two Spanish giants, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The two young Samurai players were considered to be of great potential. Grin

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

I wanted to see him in the Serie A and especially I think that he would be a great addition to Inter.
But, as news come he is going to join the Chinese League. It is a good opportunity for him to gather some money before he retire.

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 22, 2019, 12:10:33 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

Clubs would be willing to gamble on his injury records and to also overlook his age because at least he can still offer 2 or more seasons at his current level, but the major turn off for clubs will be his cumbersome wages, and he's definitely not go to settle for anything way less than his current wages at Real Madrid, So he probably would rather sit out the remainder of his playing days at Madrid under such paycheck.

I read some stuff from Zidane being quite disrespectful about Bale. He’s scored in about 3 CL Finals for Real. At any other club he’d get the keys to the city. I think they should show him more respect & love but I guess all good things cone to an end.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 22, 2019, 12:00:44 PM

Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

Age
Injury record
Wages

Clubs would be willing to gamble on his injury records and to also overlook his age because at least he can still offer 2 or more seasons at his current level, but the major turn off for clubs will be his cumbersome wages, and he's definitely not go to settle for anything way less than his current wages at Real Madrid, So he probably would rather sit out the remainder of his playing days at Madrid under such paycheck.

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Bale is supremely talented bit he has a few things that aren’t good for potential suitors -

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Injury record
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Quote from: andrearz on July 22, 2019, 04:05:34 AM

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Quote from: andrearz on July 21, 2019, 02:26:42 PM

How do you respond about Zidane who confirms that Gareth Bale will not be in Real Madrid for the upcoming season? I still don't know which club Gareth Bale is next season, it's interesting to know.

I’m not surprised as everyone knows that Zidane doesn’t like Bale, and has been trying to sell him since last year and Perez refusal to sell him was a key reason why he resigned. There’s no clarity yet about Bales next club as it could be Tottenham, Manchester United, PSG or even a Chinese club if no one agrees to pay for him. A new rumour doing rounds is a direct swap with PSG where Madrid will get Neymar, and PSG will get Bale and additional cash which is a win win deal for all the parties involved.

Transfer source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/gareth-bale-transfer-news-neymar-swap-deal-real-madrid-psg-latest-agent-paris-saint-germain-a9014401.html

hmm, this is very interesting if real Madrid sells Gareth Bale to PSG, maybe the chance to get Neymar can happen, but as we know Barcelona won't let that happen. I strongly agree if Bale becomes a PSG player and I hope he rejects the Chinese club's offer because as a star player he must remain in the top European league.

I think that Bale should go to Psg together with Neymar and Cavani these would be a dream attack for any team to have and maybe this time Psg will be a true contestant for the Champions.Bale at Real Madrid isn't doing great at the moment and not much space has been given to him so the best he can do is to go away.

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