Topic: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 110. (Read 549808 times)

Anyone who watched the match would have said the same thing that Vinic would not have made the mistake if the Valencia goalkeeper had not provoked Vinicius's emotions. And it was very clear that Vinicius was only responding to the goalkeeper's actions, but the referee only saw one way.
That's why in my previous post I said that it was unfair and if there was an audio recording, it would be clear who would be wrong.
But for Madrid fans, Vinic's absence from the upcoming La Liga match is not too worrying because Madrid's initial goal is to focus on winning the UCL title.

That's my problem with Vini seriously. In as much as Vini is one of the best players in the world right now, he needs to grow up because his antics just keep costing Real Madrid. He's simply working beyond becoming one of the most annoying players in the history of football and he deserves whatever punishment placed on him. He always act provocative, unprofessional and showcase immaturity while playing. To be identify as a world class material, a player must desist from childish attitude towards his opponent team.

Real Madrid narrowly escaped with three points against a buttom club on the table and all the blame would have been on him assuming Madrid draw or lost that game. I'm fully in support of the authority to punish him appropriately since Ancelotti has failed to train him properly. No player is superior to another and a good sportsmanship is attribute for all. The red card was well deserved and match suspension is very necessary in order to realise his mistake.

Vinicius received racist provocation during the match from Valencia fans and some of Valencia players including their goalkeeper Stole Dimitrievski so this makes Vinicius cannot control his emotion and eventually got the red card but at his social media Vinicius post his thought after this match that he apologised for this incident to the Real Madrid fans and according to the news i have read indeed after this incident Vinicius possibly will gets at least 4 matches suspension or could be more depend on the report of the referee on that match but Real Madrid will appeal because they says Vinicius is not deserved to got red card and this suspension is for Laliga matches only because in champion league Vinicius still can play

You are right because this should have made the match a little easier for Real Madrid because they were facing a much weaker team whose potential for relegation was very high. But the fact is different and Real Madrid had a little difficulty in scoring goals before successfully making a comeback, changes in strategy often make the team better and I saw that previously Real Madrid did not have the ability to finish so it was difficult for them to score goals.

You could say that Real Madrid was indeed quite lucky because they were able to make a comeback, but if you look at what they have done, it should not be solely because of luck but rather the mentality of Real Madrid which is indeed a difficult team to conquer before the match ends.

Yes, I personally also thought that it would be easier for Real Madrid to beat Valencia, but in fact, Valencia did play very well and Real Madrid really had difficulty scoring a goal against Valencia, but to be honest, I really enjoyed that match because in that match the competition was really real. tight and also of course very exciting and entertaining. but I see that in this match Real Madrid is still stronger and I see that this is not luck for Real Madrid because in my opinion Real Madrid is still the best compared to Valencia and I am also amazed because Real Madrid can play well even though at that time they only played with 10 people because Vinicius was shown a red card.

Yes, here we see Real Madrid failing to take a penalty kick and this is not a good thing, so it's natural for you to call Real Madrid lucky to win that match. but yes of course I think both teams are strong but I still think Real Madrid is better in terms of performance so it's not luck if Real Madrid can win.

but yes, it is absolutely true, of course Real Madrid is now in first place in the temporary standings and of course there is great potential to become champions again, so of course I want to congratulate Real Madrid for successfully beating Valencia and occupying the top rank of the temporary standings.

But indeed this should be a good lesson for Vini so that he is not easily provoked by opponents because his emotions have indeed been explosive until now.
Indeed, from any point of view, regardless of how the previous incident was, for now Vini's actions are not really justified for me even though the 12-match penalty was also excessive, especially since this happened due to provocation starting from Dimitrievski, but Vini's excessive reaction made the situation worse and this is one of the weaknesses that seems difficult for Vini to control because his emotions are too explosive and too bad which ultimately makes him and the club suffer losses.

Madrid is now trying to appeal the red card but in the end it might still be a bit difficult because the possibility of the penalty is still running even though I am quite doubtful if the penalty is more than 4 matches.

This is the evidence of potential players, because there are some teams that will not survive from the one goal their opponent was using to lead Real Madrid in the match from first half to second half before the red card happened to Real Madrid striker. But Real Madrid use 10 players against 11 players to defeated their opponent 1-2 to make their head coach happy, because their head coach was no longer happy when the young talented striker got the red card from the second half, but other players made a good plan to embraced the victory. Real Madrid didn't win the match by luck, because they played the match very well as if they have the same numbers of players in the field with their opponent, which is the effort of the players that created the opportunity for them to achieved the three points from the match.

Vinicius is really a problematic person, that's why he didn't win Ballon d'Or and received so many racism or hate comments. People are racist not because he's black, if it's just about his skin color, his teammates i.e. Rodrygo, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Alaba, Rudiger, Mendy etc should get the same treatment too.

This is bad for Real Madrid, Vinicius is really stupid to make such kind mistake.

I read that the suspension do applies to other domestic competitions, so if he only received 4 match suspension, he will miss the match against Deportiva Minela, Mallorca, Las Palmas, and Real Valladolid. It's still fine because the most important match is against Salzburg, Real Madrid must win.

He has the same issue as Ramos used to have on the same team, they are just way too aggressive and they are just causing a scene. If you want to be a great footballer, you want people to talk about your talents, your skills, your contribution to your team. But whenever I see Vini on a news, it's about another thing he did, he keeps pushing and hitting people, this isn't the first time he did it, and I am pretty sure it won't be the last time he does it neither.

With this way, I am pretty sure that we are going to end up with a lot of trouble for him in the future. He needs to seek counselling, I know he is young and usually people at that age do not care about therapy, but something is wrong with him and if he could get professional help about it, he could calm himself down a lot better and we could end up with a much better return as well. I believe that we are going to end up with some issues on the long run, and that would be a lot worse for him, so he needs to try to do better.

Yes, this is not just of luck, but the players' efforts. But still In terms of players, there are some players who got bad rates, only Bellingham (8/10) and Luca Modric (7/10) got good rating grades on this match, maybe because both scored the goal and consistently played then gave movement to another player. The incident red card is only blunder, Vini is look emotional taking revenge. I'm sure if he plays quietly, and doesn't take emotional when got pressure he will create a score and make a difference.

Now, Real Madrid is take a place 1st position. They will got high pressure to hold that position. There is 1 left match didn't played yet, that possible if Atletico win when meet osasuna, the 1st position will take them back.

I don't agree if this victory is full of luck. Maybe there are some factors. But the main thing is the players' efforts. With 10 players since the 79th minute because of the red card of Vini JR, they were still able to score 2 goals and win, and suppress additional goals from opponents who should have been able to take advantage of it when only playing against 10 players. So, this is a high effort. And if you look at Bellingham's goal, it was because of his ability, not because of luck, and this is not the first time Bellingham has scored the ball.

And even with only 10 players, look at their ball possession composition, they are superior and they also have a lot of shots. That shows that they are really that big in their efforts to win.

It's true that Real Madrid has won the match and gets the 3 points but you must need to understand that real madrid has won against a relegation zone club. It's mean to say that this season Valencia has performed very poorly. Real Madrid thought that the match would be easy but the mistakes of the players made the match difficult. Valencia put their best effort into winning the match, but the mistake of Guilamon and the woodwork denied their victory.
 
So now tell me if it wasn't luck then what else was it? If Valencia had scored in the dying minutes, then the match could have ended with 2-2 without a doubt, but due to hits the crossbar, Valencia was unable to score. And that's why I have given this statement that Real Madrid won because of their luck and got 3 points successfully; otherwise, it was sure to lose 2 points if the draw were to happen.

Vinicius did it without the ball and that earned him a different penalty. I don't think La Liga will go against him and treat him badly in this case, even if he is provoked by his opponents. Whatever it is, each player must have good emotional control during the match and not put forward his courage to clash with other players. Even if Vinicius is brave and capable of doing it, then he should refrain from doing it. If Vini makes a tackle, then the punishment may be different than letting out his emotions without the ball. Whatever it is, I think La Liga will treat it fairly and honorably, believe me.

Even if Vinicius gets a 4-match ban, Real Madrid will clearly be at a disadvantage. Vinicius is one of the important assets for Real Madrid and 4 matches will not be easy without him. Other players can certainly help, but Vinicius is a different player and his involvement in the game is very entertaining and thrilling.

12 games out for shoving a player after getting shoved first, that’s ridiculous to me. Yes I am in no way supporting the reaction of Vinicius because I think he needs to work on his behavior on how to handle his opponent when oppressed as we have seen many of these players and fans target this weakness of his to get into him and make him angry. The red card even though I will personally argue that it was debatable considering that he didn’t just intentionally shove first I think for second retaliation he should be red carded.

But why will he he given extra game’s punishment even the reduce number to 4 matches is bias to me, he reacted angrily to a confrontation and that was it, this wasn’t even a tackle or any foul language used which I know will attract more punishment but that punishment if they stick to it then it is an agenda against him then

This is why apart from training to be an excellent player on the pitch, it's also advisable and encouraged that players should be trained about their temperaments and conducts but then it always turns out they are mostly trained for their pitch performance meanwhile non of the other aspects should be given any less of attention.  For me if this is going to help him become better subsequently then they can go ahead and give him such penalty for such behaviour so that when he eventually comes back from serving for such, he's going to turn a new leave as to his character and spirit of sportsmanship.

I completely agree with you about Vinicius and I admit that he is a very important player for the team and deserves to win big honors in Europe. Vinicius has made a huge contribution to Real Madrid and he has helped Madrid win so many titles so far, but his attitude is not pleasing to the eye and this can trigger other people to be racist towards him.

Of course I support him and like his game, but not most of his sometimes provocative behavior or whatnot. He has to change to get what he wants, including winning the Ballon d'Or. So I don't hate him, I just don't like his attitude. I tend to prefer the attitude of Bellingham and several other Real Madrid players, including Modric.

This we can say has been the biggest flaw Vinicius Junior has and many actually used it against him when he didn't win the Ballon d'Or last year.

To be honest I hope Ancelloti speaks to him about this and he do actually changed and become more humbled or calm. This will bring more respect to him and eith this his character I don't think he can captain the Real Madrid team anytime, calmness shows a sense of leadership and even if he feels wrong he shouldn't just let all his emotions out once, this can be used against him even in bigger games and then he won't be seen as hero or one trying to help the team.

As far as I know, every player who gets a straight red card in a competition, for example for a La Liga match, the suspension only applies to the La Liga match, not to other domestic competitions. But I could be wrong and I hope someone can correct it after this. To be honest, I'm confused about the rules, but as far as I know the ban is only in La Liga matches.

Actually Vinicius is a great football athlete with his skills and ability to score goals, but I don't like his attitude. I think he acts too much and sometimes that makes him get an unnecessary yellow card in a match, even though his skills have really helped Real Madrid all this time. I hope he changes to be more relaxed and behaves, that's all.

Yes it was indeed an epic game for Real Madrid after they came from behind to beat Valencia 2 -1, I think they showed a lot of character and didn't give up too easily even after conceding a red card in that game. But on the other hand I was a bit disappointed in Real Madrid for failing to put the game under control against a struggling team like Valencia, and to the point where their talisman, Vinicius Jnr would be sent off is something very absurd but I still have to commend the team for their courageous act even when all odds where against them, indeed they have shown why they are referred to as the champions.

La Liga: Real Madrid's Vinicius Junior Faces Possible Suspension For 12 Matches For MisconductReal Madrid striker Vinicius Junior risks a suspension of four to 12 matches for pushing the opposing team's goalkeeper stole dimitrievski
it's too much
Real Madrid striker Vinicius Junior risks a suspension of four to 12 matches for pushing the opposing team's goalkeeper Stole Dimitrievski during the 79th minute of the La Liga match against Valencia, which ended 2-1 at the Mestella. after the incident, the Brazilian player was sent off. According to Spanish La Liga regulations, such aggressive behaviour without an attempt to play the ball is punishable by suspension.
according to spanish language media outlet Mundo deportivo, Vinicius will likely receive the minimum penalty of four matches.
this could exclude him from participating in the supercopa de Espana semifinal against Mallorca, and if they advance to the final, he may miss the match against Barcelona or athletic Bbilbao.