La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1972.

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Quote from: zuzie on July 30, 2023, 08:40:39 AM

Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Hmm there result seems pretty good for atletico madrid at this moment. It's likely manchester city gonna use it as future evaluation even though this was just friendly match but i think that if pep was seeing it as important match caused by he has been using all of main players in the game. Atletico madrid uses all of main players since the game has been starting. Even though the result was still mean nothing but im sure if pep sees this as something good for club.

City is still the strongest team.

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Quote from: Bananington on July 30, 2023, 09:17:09 AM

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In today's game, Real Madrid attacked a lot but could not succeed because of the lack of forward players. Special teams have had a tough season challenging due to player turnover this season. Meanwhile, finding the weakness of Real Madrid, the few attacks that the Barcelona team made were almost successful. But I can see that Real Madrid had more possession than Barcelona but Real Madrid couldn't find any chance to score. So unless an experienced striker is present, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to secure a win.

It is not always accurate to predict how a team will perform in an upcoming season from their preseason games. The season can start and we will see an entirely different team from the team and the performance from the preseason games. See from the games played, Manchester United won Arsenal, and Real Madrid went ahead to win Manchester United. Arsenal won Barcelona, and Barcelona went ahead to win Real Madrid. You see that each game had a strategy that each coach just wanted to try out. When the season begins, Real Madrid will be stronger and Joselu will be able to fill in the position he is to occupy for the time.

Yes and also, don't make this defeat the reason why Real Madrid need a high quality pure attacking player. If you still attribute this defeat to that factor, then of course Mbappe name will eventually come up again. In fact, Real Madrid have signed Joselu to be positioned as a center forward. So yes, just hope for a real match in the new season later, at least you can hope Joselu can play with the contribution as expected. Because that way, it can at least close the hole that has been worried about pure strikers who have good goal instincts.

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I'm not sure that Real Madrid can only wait for Mbappe to run out of contract with PSG next season, for sure the PSG team won't want to lose their important player for nothing. However, high prices are a difficult problem at this time.
On the other hand Mbappe is Real Madrid's main priority, in fact they have been waiting for this player for 2 seasons without looking for another player in the striker position and even this season Real madrid's main striker Karim Benzema has moved but they are still not looking for another player in that position because it made Mbappe is their top priority.
Despite this long drama, I'm sure Real Madrid will get him and that's for a transfer fee to PSG.

The snow is melting in this case because in early days we have news Real Madrid is not going to spend any amount for this transfer and the Real Madrid president wants him as free agent but now as time is running out, and we have news about few English clubs are having interest in this transfer suddenly we have updates about their interest and offer as well even right now it's not as par PSG demand but most chances we will have this in coming days because most chances PSG will not reduce their demand which is currently standing at £250m and Real Madrid is now announcing about their first bid is £225m which mean this gape is going to be reduced soon.

Kylian Mbappé is surely currently big player and his entry in Real Madrid could be going to have big impact on their performance in coming season with most chances they will give good farewell to their outgoing coach Carlos Ancelotti with another double in coming season which is only possible if they have Mbappé into their team.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on July 30, 2023, 08:13:50 AM

After being humiliated by Barcelona in a friendly match with a final score of 3-0, it was clear that Real Madrid really needed additional strength, especially on the front lines. Quality strikers need to be brought in to maximize the chances of being scored. Real Madrid's performance in the friendly match was not too disappointing even though they conceded three goals. Real Madrid had many chances but their attackers were unable to convert these opportunities into goals.
The blunting of Real Madrid's attack line is a very worrying obstacle, they will find it difficult to compete if they don't immediately bring in a quality striker.

Real Madrid looked like an ordinary team without Luka Modric and Toni Kroos in yesterday's trial match, Ancelotti 4-1-2-1-2 formation did not work smoothly without these two names. Tchouameni, Valverde, Camavinga and Bellingham were unable to do much to keep pace with Barcelona game and finally had to acknowledge Barcelona prowess on the pre-season tour with a 3-0 unanswered defeat.

The result against Barca led Ancelotti to comment that "to lose in pre-season is better than in La Liga". I think Ancelotti will have to be really observant to rotate his players next season, because the roles of Modric and Kroos in the midfield cannot be covered by other young players.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 30, 2023, 08:48:23 AM

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Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

The game has come to an end. Manchester City 1 and Athletico Madrid 2. A friendly game that felt more tense than the live game. The city dwellers dominated the game throughout but were unlucky to make a comeback in the second half, as they let their guards down for the La Liga side so easily, and before they could improve the entire game, it was quite late, and we are answerable with Diego Simeone's defensive style in games. They are one of the strongest defensive teams in the world, capable of blocking all key places on the field. Pep Guardiola would accept the defeat in good fate.

It's okay for a pre-season friendly match at least Guardiola will evaluate the defense side of Manchester City, because then he will improve so that the defense line is stronger when the UCL and domestic league matches start again, so in my opinion altetico madrid's victory will be a correction for Simeone overhauling the players to be even better remember the Spanish league is not far away and the UCL will also start.

I think Guardiola and Simeone gave their best strategy in this match because of course seeing the strength of the two of them are equally strong, Manchester City only lost narrowly it doesn't look like a problem for me as a Manchester City supporter, but at least Atletico looks better than Madrid which lost to Barcelona in pre-season friendlies. lots of surprises in this pre season so everyone played well nothing let down all the supporters and spectators.

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For the Champions League, it looks like Manchester United can still survive at least until the quarter-finals or even the semi-finals if Erik ten Hag and the players can show their best.
But when Mbappe can actually join Real Madrid this summer, Real Madrid's strength will increase significantly, especially for the attack line, maybe even sharper to penetrate the enemy's defense.

For La Liga, Real Madrid has become the king who rotates with Barcelona, maybe the nickname of the king is more appropriate in La Liga, not the Champions League.

Right now I'm not going to go so far as to talk about whether or not they'll be able to perform at their best in the Champions League, because I have to first see how they shape up in the actual competition. Indeed now we have seen their performances in pre-season matches, but for me it is not a real measure for anyone whether they will perform well or not. This applies to all clubs that will participate in the Champions League later, not just the 2 clubs being discussed here.
I wouldn't say no to today's predictions either, because surely we're going to have different things to say.

I am of a belief that any team could beat any team, there is really no reason that Real or Barcelona or United could not beat each other. In the end Barcelona looks much better than last year on paper, and they have showed how good they could be against Madrid as well but that was a friendly.

I believe that they will be better than last season at UCL as well, lets see how it goes first and if they actually do play better like expected, that would be something that is much better. I believe however that we can't really make it work some other way, it is just not going to end up any different. I believe that the best thing for them would be focusing on league and cup, if they can get that double, then UCL would be forgiven.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on July 30, 2023, 08:54:15 AM

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Unfortunately, I heard from the local media that PSG only wants to release Mbappe for 250 million, but Real Madrid will only spend 225 million more or less like that. Actually the difference amount not too big for a Paris Saint-Germain club, if they still insist on price 250 million then I think they will lose money. I mean Mbappe will probably go to Real Madrid for free, because he also reportedly doesn't want play in the Saudi League.

Its this rumor true, I think better option for PSG releasing Mbappe with 225 million euro from their opening bid 250 million euro, not big difference than have loss Mbappe in next summer as free agent after rejecting with extend contract. I don't sure with Real Madrid want to pay most expensive transfer fees for signing Mbappe.
Actually 225 million euro is not small fund including with payment salary for Mbappe could be above 20 million euro until 30 million euro. Looks Real Madrid priority waiting until Mbappe contract expiry with PSG on June 2024 and sign him with free transfer although have to pay most expensive salary.

I'm not sure that Real Madrid can only wait for Mbappe to run out of contract with PSG next season, for sure the PSG team won't want to lose their important player for nothing. However, high prices are a difficult problem at this time.
On the other hand Mbappe is Real Madrid's main priority, in fact they have been waiting for this player for 2 seasons without looking for another player in the striker position and even this season Real madrid's main striker Karim Benzema has moved but they are still not looking for another player in that position because it made Mbappe is their top priority.
Despite this long drama, I'm sure Real Madrid will get him and that's for a transfer fee to PSG.

Over the last few seasons, we have seen Real Madrid management very keen to sign Mbappe. But with PSG deciding to sell Mbappe, Madrid's interest seems to be waning. And looking at various news at the moment, I think Liverpool and Chelsea are more interested in signing Mbappe than Real Madrid. Chelsea and Liverpool's management continue to hold talks with PSG over Mbappe's move. I think we will see Mbappe in any Premier League team next season. Real Madrid are unlikely to add Mbappe to their squad.

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Quote from: Bananington on July 30, 2023, 09:17:09 AM

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In today's game, Real Madrid attacked a lot but could not succeed because of the lack of forward players. Special teams have had a tough season challenging due to player turnover this season. Meanwhile, finding the weakness of Real Madrid, the few attacks that the Barcelona team made were almost successful. But I can see that Real Madrid had more possession than Barcelona but Real Madrid couldn't find any chance to score. So unless an experienced striker is present, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to secure a win.

It is not always accurate to predict how a team will perform in an upcoming season from their preseason games. The season can start and we will see an entirely different team from the team and the performance from the preseason games. See from the games played, Manchester United won Arsenal, and Real Madrid went ahead to win Manchester United. Arsenal won Barcelona, and Barcelona went ahead to win Real Madrid. You see that each game had a strategy that each coach just wanted to try out. When the season begins, Real Madrid will be stronger and Joselu will be able to fill in the position he is to occupy for the time.

Maybe most people have the thought that don't judge a club performance from pre-season matches because it's only a trial match but for me we can predict from the way players play between clubs.
So that we already have a pattern of how this club will compete in the actual season and we can see the pattern of strategies that every coach has to consider before we start betting on this season.
Like the Arsenal, United, City and Barca matches, we can conclude that this club has improved a little better than the previous season and we know for sure because we usually always watch live broadcasts of these matches so that we can consider them in every match in the coming season.
But for anyone it would be better if you want to bet on this friendly match to be a little more careful because there are so many surprises that happened because yesterday I tried to bet on Real Madrid which I thought won but in the end Barca won the match

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Quote from: Popkon6 on July 30, 2023, 07:04:33 AM

In today's game, Real Madrid attacked a lot but could not succeed because of the lack of forward players. Special teams have had a tough season challenging due to player turnover this season. Meanwhile, finding the weakness of Real Madrid, the few attacks that the Barcelona team made were almost successful. But I can see that Real Madrid had more possession than Barcelona but Real Madrid couldn't find any chance to score. So unless an experienced striker is present, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to secure a win.

It is not always accurate to predict how a team will perform in an upcoming season from their preseason games. The season can start and we will see an entirely different team from the team and the performance from the preseason games. See from the games played, Manchester United won Arsenal, and Real Madrid went ahead to win Manchester United. Arsenal won Barcelona, and Barcelona went ahead to win Real Madrid. You see that each game had a strategy that each coach just wanted to try out. When the season begins, Real Madrid will be stronger and Joselu will be able to fill in the position he is to occupy for the time.

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Quote from: zuzie on July 30, 2023, 08:40:39 AM

Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

Atletico is consistenty playing defense rather than being fuly offensive. It must be noted that if city's soul was not playing and he was de bruyne. Haaland was rarely getting the ball. I don't even know what's the probem but if city is relying on de bruyne.
KDB was always able giving good pass for haaland and that's it. This result is nothing but city gonna prove it again next season. Morata's performance was quite impressive. I kinda feel if city's goal keeper was not so good. A good match for manchester city and atletico madrid before the club gonna start its journey in EPL and a liga. It's very bad to see that if nathan ake was also missing from the game due to injury. It's a good training before city gonna face arsenal in the final of community shield.
Atletico's performance is even better compared to last season. It's likey atletico madrid gonna be the chief competitor for barceona next season. The result was not so bad for manchester city. GGWP

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Quote from: Doell on July 30, 2023, 07:18:21 AM

Unfortunately, I heard from the local media that PSG only wants to release Mbappe for 250 million, but Real Madrid will only spend 225 million more or less like that. Actually the difference amount not too big for a Paris Saint-Germain club, if they still insist on price 250 million then I think they will lose money. I mean Mbappe will probably go to Real Madrid for free, because he also reportedly doesn't want play in the Saudi League.

Its this rumor true, I think better option for PSG releasing Mbappe with 225 million euro from their opening bid 250 million euro, not big difference than have loss Mbappe in next summer as free agent after rejecting with extend contract. I don't sure with Real Madrid want to pay most expensive transfer fees for signing Mbappe.
Actually 225 million euro is not small fund including with payment salary for Mbappe could be above 20 million euro until 30 million euro. Looks Real Madrid priority waiting until Mbappe contract expiry with PSG on June 2024 and sign him with free transfer although have to pay most expensive salary.

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Quote from: zuzie on July 30, 2023, 08:40:39 AM

Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

Since it is a friendly match then I don't have much to say other than Guardiola should pay attention to his next game the next weekend vs Arsenal in the Community shield match.
Their victory against Bayern Munich was good start and this defeat shouldn't happen in my opinion.
Serious games will start soon, after Arsenal, they will face Burnley in EPL then they will play vs Sevilla, which won Europa League, in UEFA Super Cup mid August then back to EPL games. Manchester City has fierce opponents this season and they should not miss points..

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After failing to make his debut in the first game of pre-season due to discomfort in one of his legs, it is now reported that Arda Guler has returned to Madrid to make a quicker recovery and the diagnosis says that he has a meniscus injury. Maybe no one thought that Arda Guler had to deal with injuries early and even though he was scheduled to play against Juventus in the pre-season match later.

But it looks like the player's health comes first and he will therefore have to leave the pre-season camp early. Well, we hope for the best for the recovery of this talented wonderkid from Turkey and in the early matches of the La Liga season he will be able to start playing again.

I don't think that Arda Guler is under any pressure to deliver top football performances for Real Madrid at the moment and despite all the pressure from fans of the club, he'll still be allowed and cared for to heal from his injury.
Reports has it that he's left Real Madrid's preseason squad and has gone back to the Spanish capital to get treated

If we look at his very young age, it seems that he is too ambitious and very passionate about training with Real Madrid but he forgets to predict that things like injuries will also be very bad for his career. I think he needs to be more careful going forward so that the same thing doesn't happen again and maybe he needs to pay attention to the intensity of his training.

I understand his desire to show his quality and to be able to compete with other players for a starting place but it's too early, he better think about how to bring the team to victory when the coach needs his skills. Other than that, I don't think there's anything more to say and hope he can get back to adapting to his team-mates before the first La Liga game starts in 13 days.

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Quote from: zuzie on July 30, 2023, 08:40:39 AM

Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

It is interesting that Atletico won, although the probability of this event was estimated by bookmakers as 16% (and I find this assessment fair). What surprised me was this odds on BTTS 1.76 - I thought that in this pair the favorite should be the outcome of BTTS No, since both teams are good in defense. It's probably worth considering that this is a friendly game, I can't believe that Atlético has suddenly become so good.

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Quote from: zuzie on July 30, 2023, 08:40:39 AM

Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

The game has come to an end. Manchester City 1 and Athletico Madrid 2. A friendly game that felt more tense than the live game. The city dwellers dominated the game throughout but were unlucky to make a comeback in the second half, as they let their guards down for the La Liga side so easily, and before they could improve the entire game, it was quite late, and we are answerable with Diego Simeone's defensive style in games. They are one of the strongest defensive teams in the world, capable of blocking all key places on the field. Pep Guardiola would accept the defeat in good fate.

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 30, 2023, 08:39:29 AM

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It is really unfortunate for Arda Guler to have no choice other than returning to Madrid early. Because due to his injury he will miss pre-season games and will have to work much harder to reach the level of the others later. He is a really talented player of course so I believe in him to work hard for that.

Arda Güler should put in enough work to returned as soon as possible, he have an opportunity to win a space in the best XI squad for next season games. Rather he will coming of from the bench to start games. Arda Güler is too tender to start having complicated matters concerning injuries, he needs to bounce back to his peak, he should be remind that he's in one of the best leading club in the world, and there's absolutely no room for excuses. Carlo Ancelotti, the players and the supporters would give him time to heal, let's hope they get the best results from the youngster.

Arda Güler will work hard and come back fast.
He knows the opportunity given to him and will do his best to seize it. Everyone expects it from him.
He also needs to strengthen himself.

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Barcelona was losing against real madrid. It surprises me to see how barcelona humiliated real madrid with 3-0 as the final scores. It seems like that if arsenal is far stronger compared with real madrid at this moment. The quality will never lie. Madrid needs to solve all of its problems.

The new players do nothing when it was facing barcelona while arsenal was able scoring so many goals against barcelona. It seems like that the quality from real madrid is still far below arsenal at this moment.

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

Im very disappointed with the performance from real madrid players. 3-0 is a big scores.

I was not surprised by Barcelona's victory over Real Madrid in yesterday's friendly because it is common for both clubs to lose when they play each other even in La Liga and other competitions; sometimes Real Madrid defeats Barcelona and vice versa. Therefore, I don't need to be astonished because both teams are strongest teams in world that have accomplished a great deal and are expected to keep up their good play. Only if lesser clubs defeated Real Madrid should I be shocked. Barcelona upsetting Real Madrid does not imply that Real Madrid is a weak team because Real Madrid has also defeated Manchester United and AC Milan, two powerful European clubs, in recent preseason matches.Remember that Real Madrid beat Manchester United and Manchester United beat Arsenal, and Arsenal beat Barcelona? Those are preseason games for us.

Can you understand how much the team has improved by watching Barcelona's game? They have created a great bond from defense to attack. Barcelona dominated the game in the first half. But in the second half, Real Madrid attacked brilliantly but they did not succeed in scoring. Venicius Junior's penalty miss is truly ridiculous.

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Today's pre-season match
Last season's 3rd in LaLiga champions Atletico Madrid continue their pre-season match against Pep Guardiola's team today, this being Atletico's third match since starting their pre-season tour and the previous two match end in defeat but Atletico completely dominated the match against Manchester City today. Pep Guardiola played his main squad include Erling Haaland, Julian Alvarez, Bernardo Silva, and others

Match enters 90+ minutes with score (1-2)

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 29, 2023, 05:28:34 PM

It is really unfortunate for Arda Guler to have no choice other than returning to Madrid early. Because due to his injury he will miss pre-season games and will have to work much harder to reach the level of the others later. He is a really talented player of course so I believe in him to work hard for that.

Arda Güler should put in enough work to returned as soon as possible, he have an opportunity to win a space in the best XI squad for next season games. Rather he will coming of from the bench to start games. Arda Güler is too tender to start having complicated matters concerning injuries, he needs to bounce back to his peak, he should be remind that he's in one of the best leading club in the world, and there's absolutely no room for excuses. Carlo Ancelotti, the players and the supporters would give him time to heal, let's hope they get the best results from the youngster.

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By the way, yes, Paris Saint-Germain dug a hole for themselves with their financial flirtations with Mbappe, and if the amount of 225 million euros is correct, then this is a very good option for the club to part with the footballer avoiding larger losses. And by the way, after all the actions that Mbappe and his family have taken, I much less believe that Mbappe is now able to have a dream Wink

Money is his main dream now Wink

Unfortunately, I heard from the local media that PSG only wants to release Mbappe for 250 million, but Real Madrid will only spend 225 million more or less like that. Actually the difference amount not too big for a Paris Saint-Germain club, if they still insist on price 250 million then I think they will lose money. I mean Mbappe will probably go to Real Madrid for free, because he also reportedly doesn't want play in the Saudi League.

If the source of the news is true, then the difference offered by Real Madrid and what PSG wants is not much different, then it is more likely that PSG will accept the offer compared to releasing Mbappe next season without getting any transfer funds at all, and I don't think clubs from Europe will want to spend more money than what is offered by Real Madrid except for clubs from the Saudi Pro League, moreover, Mbappe has always expressed his interest only in playing for Real Madrid, so the money used to buy this player by clubs other than Real Madrid will be a big gamble, especially if he doesn't want to sign a long contract, spending up to 250 million euros just to get a 1-2 year contract is very unprofitable for the club, so I think Real Madrid will get Mbappe, and offers from other clubs are just rumors to play up the news. this player.

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