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Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Barcelona was losing against real madrid. It surprises me to see how barcelona humiliated real madrid with 3-0 as the final scores. It seems like that if arsenal is far stronger compared with real madrid at this moment. The quality will never lie. Madrid needs to solve all of its problems.

The new players do nothing when it was facing barcelona while arsenal was able scoring so many goals against barcelona. It seems like that the quality from real madrid is still far below arsenal at this moment.

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

Im very disappointed with the performance from real madrid players. 3-0 is a big scores.

I was not surprised by Barcelona's victory over Real Madrid in yesterday's friendly because it is common for both clubs to lose when they play each other even in La Liga and other competitions; sometimes Real Madrid defeats Barcelona and vice versa. Therefore, I don't need to be astonished because both teams are strongest teams in world that have accomplished a great deal and are expected to keep up their good play. Only if lesser clubs defeated Real Madrid should I be shocked. Barcelona upsetting Real Madrid does not imply that Real Madrid is a weak team because Real Madrid has also defeated Manchester United and AC Milan, two powerful European clubs, in recent preseason matches.Remember that Real Madrid beat Manchester United and Manchester United beat Arsenal, and Arsenal beat Barcelona? Those are preseason games for us.

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It was technically a friendly game between Barcelona and Real Madrid even if it is El Clasico. Therefore I would have waited for the players to have a sportsmanlike game. But at a moment of the game there was a really serious dive by a Barcelona player and the tension got really high right after that.

Nobody would like to see any of their player getting injured in a pre-season friendly game for sure. Apart from that Real Madrid's statistics were decent actually but they couldn't score a goal anyway. Barcelona got a really solid win by 3-0 especially thanks to the goals came in the last moments.

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Quote from: ancafe on July 30, 2023, 02:44:39 AM

That's true and they have gone through difficult times related to financial problems at the start of last season and even Xavi could lead Barcelona to win the league. Even though for now Barcelona's financial condition is not stable, they have also taken the right steps by bringing in the players needed without spending a large budget and with the departure of several players who have large payrolls can also make Barcelona balance the club's finances.

Barcelona played well against Real Madrid in the last season and they did played well in past long season too. Xavi needs to help Barcelona play better in Champions League and in Cups. In La Liga, he looks good with his management in Barcelona but to win cups, it requires different skills and I am not sure Xavi already has enough coach experience to win cups.

Quote from: bering on July 30, 2023, 02:39:56 AM

Lets just look at to Real Madrid statistics match that they have 29 total of shots and none of them even can be a single goal for them i think this proven Real Madrid still unable performing well without Benzema and the players such as Joselu and Vinicius still wasted plenty of chances to scores goals

Benzema left Real Madrid and from this big friendly match, their problems shown clearly. They need a world class striker to replace Benzema as Vinicius is not a striker and Joselu is not a world-class striker. If Real Madrid won't buy such a striker in this summer, they will have very big problem in a new season.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on July 30, 2023, 12:29:03 AM

Well, in fact Barcelona already had these financial problems at the beginning of last season and ended up winning the league. Winning the league did not get them out of trouble, but at least it did not force them to become a SAD (Sociedad Anónima Deportiva).

Regarding the friendly I wouldn't give it too much importance, the teams are not ready yet and the coaches usually try with substitutes. What matters are the results of official competitions, not this type of match, which is why they are called friendlies.

That's true and they have gone through difficult times related to financial problems at the start of last season and even Xavi could lead Barcelona to win the league. Even though for now Barcelona's financial condition is not stable, they have also taken the right steps by bringing in the players needed without spending a large budget and with the departure of several players who have large payrolls can also make Barcelona balance the club's finances.

The friendly match is only a trial run and not fully a benchmark, even though Barcelona was able to beat Real Madrid 3-0 without reply. But Xavi's real work when the competition starts and how he should be able to play better in the league and Champions, because the real competition is going to be more difficult and there's a lot of pressure there.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Barcelona was losing against real madrid. It surprises me to see how barcelona humiliated real madrid with 3-0 as the final scores. It seems like that if arsenal is far stronger compared with real madrid at this moment. The quality will never lie. Madrid needs to solve all of its problems.

The new players do nothing when it was facing barcelona while arsenal was able scoring so many goals against barcelona. It seems like that the quality from real madrid is still far below arsenal at this moment.

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

Im very disappointed with the performance from real madrid players. 3-0 is a big scores.

Lets just look at to Real Madrid statistics match that they have 29 total of shots and none of them even can be a single goal for them i think this proven Real Madrid still unable performing well without Benzema and the players such as Joselu and Vinicius still wasted plenty of chances to scores goals but indeed Real Madrid a bit unlucky in this match because there were several shots attempts from their players who hit the crossbar however because this is only a friendly match then Ancelotti should be evaluate this result and one thing for sure Real Madrid have to find the replacement of Benzema immediately because at that match besides their defense which is still not solid Real Madrid also really struggled to scores even though they got a lot of chances

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Quote from: indah rezqi on July 29, 2023, 06:20:58 AM

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Yes, I am aware of the rumors that Ansu Fati is for sale.
There is nothing shown by Ansu Fati that makes Xavi have to make him a core player who is included in the starting eleven in every Barca match.
If Barcelona think that Fati cannot return to his best playing form, sell him and buy another striker as I have stated above.

Lewandowski is physically good so his role this season has really helped Xavi in the title fight with Real Madrid. Very different from the attacker listed in the Barcelona squad.
Ansu Fati also often experiences injuries so his name doesn't appear like Gavi and Pedri.

However, Ansu Fati is a valuable asset for Barca even though he doesn't seem to be able to show good performance. I think that in one or two seasons his performance will be more mature, considering that currently Fati is only 20 years old.

If Barcelona value Ansu Fati as their valuable asset, loan him to another club in order to get enough playing minutes rather than him being kept as a backup in the Barcelona squad. I have a feeling how good it is that Ansu Fati was loaned out to save their asset.
In the match against Real Madrid at AT&T Stadium, Texas, Ansu Fati was played by Xavi to replace Robert Lewandowski. Ansu Fati did not see a prominent role even though Barcelona won 3-0.

Quote from: indah rezqi on July 29, 2023, 06:20:58 AM

Apart from these rumors, it is possible that Barcelona will release their winger this summer. Thus Barca can bring in players who are more mature to get better squad depth, so they can defend the championship trophy next season, if they don't want to be taken over by Real Madrid.

I have no arguments about this. I wish them only the best.
IMO, Barcelona needs to bring in pure stickers.

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Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on July 29, 2023, 10:51:30 PM

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Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

This is just a friendly match, with no reward or punishment, and it's mainly for testing the squad's purpose. Therefore, we can't evaluate whether Real Madrid's squad is weaker than Barcelona. It requires a longer period of time in the official season to make a proper evaluation.

Although the match between Barcelona and Real Madrid was a friendly match, Barcelona's performance in this match was quite good but Real Madrid's performance was a bit random. We saw good dribbling and ball passing from Venicius Jr towards the end but we didn't get his best early on. Compared to Barcelona, Real Madrid's ball pass accuracy was very bad in the last match, Real Madrid made many wrong passes against Barcelona. A team can lose in such a match but if they lose with such a poor performance then it's really disappointing because we expected more from Real Madrid. Real Madrid had a bit of bad luck in the warm-up against Barcelona as a number of short shots hit the post directly and came back without going inside the goal post. The warm-up match is expected to teach Real Madrid a lot.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 30, 2023, 01:47:16 AM

Xavi Hernandez buckling his squad with good enchanced performance, they won against Real Madrid, they deserved accolades despite its a friendly game. I concord with your opinion, there's no limit to make comparison of a friendly game with a club's main performance when the league finally reopen. The blaugrana humiliated the Los Blancos 3nil in a friendly clash, that doesn't suppose to make us jump into conclusion about Carlo Ancelotti main game strategy. Real Madrid are always vulnerable to Barcelona but things are on a different level when it comes to pursuing competitive titles.

everything will change when playing in a real match, I mean this is just a friendly match for Real Madrid and Barcelona just testing each other strengths without having to compete seriously but to see how strong the players are and whether their formation is really good to use in the La Liga match later .
Im not surprised that Madrid had to lose to Barcelona in the past. many times in La Liga Madrid often lost to Barcelona because there were other things that had to be achieved, such as at that time Real Madrid was chasing the champions league title and in the end had to lower its performance a little in every La Liga match because maintain the physical stability of their players to perform well in the champions league. and I appreciate Barcelona performance even though it was only a friendly match but they did well even though they don't have reliable players anymore after bad finances they couldnt get high quality players this summer.

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 30, 2023, 01:17:12 AM

Preseason friendly games are not competitive enough to to determine how good a club is or how poor they'll perform when the actual football season kicks off. It's just a glorified training games to me.
That being said and without taking anything away from Barcelona who won yesterday against Real Madrid, I think the Real Madrid team is still very much better than Barcelona in terms of quality players and would have a better season than Barcelona when next season kicks off.

Xavi Hernandez buckling his squad with good enchanced performance, they won against Real Madrid, they deserved accolades despite its a friendly game. I concord with your opinion, there's no limit to make comparison of a friendly game with a club's main performance when the league finally reopen. The blaugrana humiliated the Los Blancos 3nil in a friendly clash, that doesn't suppose to make us jump into conclusion about Carlo Ancelotti main game strategy. Real Madrid are always vulnerable to Barcelona but things are on a different level when it comes to pursuing competitive titles.

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Fermin lopez's performance is far better compared with the match against arsenal. He was able contributing 1 goal and 1 assist in the friendly match against real madrid which is very good. Even though people called that as friendly match but it's still remain el classico for me.
The atmosphere will never change. The clubs will always be doing all in the duel between barcelona vs real madrid. He has been getting so many attentions after his great performance against barcelona.

He has been graduated from la macia and xavi was putting him into the main squad. It was also very good to say that how his performance is also amazing.
I think that so many clubs will pay attention to this guy. I do like to see more players from the academic to come into the main squad.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on July 30, 2023, 12:29:03 AM

Quote from: onecall123 on July 29, 2023, 11:51:48 PM

Barcelona might be facing some financial difficulties, having limits of signing expensive players. However, this doesn't mean that they cannot defeat Real Madrid. Though this is a friendly match, it's demonstrated that Barcelona is well prepared to face in this season. I've noticed that Ferran Torres has significantly improved his game. Fermin also delivered an outstanding performance, and I'm looking forward to see more of his skills throughout this season.

Well, in fact Barcelona already had these financial problems at the beginning of last season and ended up winning the league. Winning the league did not get them out of trouble, but at least it did not force them to become a SAD (Sociedad Anónima Deportiva).

Regarding the friendly I wouldn't give it too much importance, the teams are not ready yet and the coaches usually try with substitutes. What matters are the results of official competitions, not this type of match, which is why they are called friendlies.

This surprised Madrid to lose 3-0 without reply, although it was not too important because it was a friendly match but for Ancelotti this result could be an important record. I think Barcelona are motivated after the defeat to Arsenal last week, beating Madrid can add a mental boost to Xavi squad.

Yes it is true that Barcelona is a club that has the most financial problems, many reports say that Barca is a club in Europe that has the highest debt at the moment. Poor management, buying players at high prices and the Covid-19 pandemic made their debt increase.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Barcelona was losing against real madrid. It surprises me to see how barcelona humiliated real madrid with 3-0 as the final scores. It seems like that if arsenal is far stronger compared with real madrid at this moment. The quality will never lie. Madrid needs to solve all of its problems.

The new players do nothing when it was facing barcelona while arsenal was able scoring so many goals against barcelona. It seems like that the quality from real madrid is still far below arsenal at this moment.

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

Im very disappointed with the performance from real madrid players. 3-0 is a big scores.

Preseason friendly games are not competitive enough to to determine how good a club is or how poor they'll perform when the actual football season kicks off. It's just a glorified training games to me.
That being said and without taking anything away from Barcelona who won yesterday against Real Madrid, I think the Real Madrid team is still very much better than Barcelona in terms of quality players and would have a better season than Barcelona when next season kicks off.

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Quote from: ginsan on July 29, 2023, 01:07:23 PM

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I feel just the opposite.
There are more important things than just friendship when it comes to El Clasico because matches like this are always full of prestige.
I think we know how the tension and rivalry is when these two clubs play so I don't think there's anything to be relaxed about because egos and prestige are obviously bigger.

Even though this match will not mean anything and will not prove that they are the strongest in the next season, losing to rivals is something that is highly avoided in order to maintain the prestige that has long existed.
The match starts tomorrow and I think it will be an interesting first El clasico of the new season.

This El Clasico will be proof for both teams to welcome next season where the two coaches will try to compete against each other in today's game. I believe the tension of the game will spur on a match full of prestige in today's match. Most likely both squads will come down with the perfect squad to test their strength in today's game.

In the previous match Barcelona suffered defeat against Arsenal and for Real madrid they were able to win the 2 matches they had played. Statistically, it is very likely that Real Madrid will be able to maintain their winning streak in trial matches in today match. I think Real madrid will win today's match by a thin score.

The match was over and I wasn't really expecting the result

3-0 was really a massacre for the first match after their long break from rivalry matches.
Madrid's possession and chances were actually very good and I like the way they direct the ball, it's just that they really messed up towards the end of the second half.
Even if it's a friendly match this therapy should be taken into consideration by Ancelotti to improve their squad because if this goes on I think the same results as last season will continue to happen.
There is still 1 more match for Madrid in their remaining friendlies, hopefully there is something interesting and Ancelotti's scheme is not monotonous considering the formation in the last few matches has always been the same.

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Quote from: onecall123 on July 29, 2023, 11:51:48 PM

Barcelona might be facing some financial difficulties, having limits of signing expensive players. However, this doesn't mean that they cannot defeat Real Madrid. Though this is a friendly match, it's demonstrated that Barcelona is well prepared to face in this season. I've noticed that Ferran Torres has significantly improved his game. Fermin also delivered an outstanding performance, and I'm looking forward to see more of his skills throughout this season.

Well, in fact Barcelona already had these financial problems at the beginning of last season and ended up winning the league. Winning the league did not get them out of trouble, but at least it did not force them to become a SAD (Sociedad Anónima Deportiva).

Regarding the friendly I wouldn't give it too much importance, the teams are not ready yet and the coaches usually try with substitutes. What matters are the results of official competitions, not this type of match, which is why they are called friendlies.

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Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on July 29, 2023, 10:51:30 PM

Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

This is just a friendly match, with no reward or punishment, and it's mainly for testing the squad's purpose. Therefore, we can't evaluate whether Real Madrid's squad is weaker than Barcelona. It requires a longer period of time in the official season to make a proper evaluation.

This defeat needs to be evaluated by Real Madrid to improve the quality of its squad. Yes, this is just a friendly match, there is nothing up for grabs in this game. Ancelotti and Xavi have both fielded the best line-up since the start of the match, although there is nothing up for grabs in this game, the quality of the team is of course something of value to the coach.
Barcelona performed better than Real Madrid, they are more prepared for the new season with a squad that has been formed. While Real Madrid are still having trouble scoring goals, this weakness needs to be anticipated by Ancelotti to maintain the sharpness of the front lines to increase the productivity of their goals.

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Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on July 29, 2023, 10:51:30 PM

Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

This is just a friendly match, with no reward or punishment, and it's mainly for testing the squad's purpose. Therefore, we can't evaluate whether Real Madrid's squad is weaker than Barcelona. It requires a longer period of time in the official season to make a proper evaluation.

Barcelona might be facing some financial difficulties, having limits of signing expensive players. However, this doesn't mean that they cannot defeat Real Madrid. Though this is a friendly match, it's demonstrated that Barcelona is well prepared to face in this season. I've noticed that Ferran Torres has significantly improved his game. Fermin also delivered an outstanding performance, and I'm looking forward to see more of his skills throughout this season.

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PSG pushing Mbappe maybe I think because of his big salary at there, also to recruit new players PSG may need other funds. Although they have a lot of money but maybe they don't want spend a lot more money again, I mean to recruit new players. If that news is true then 225 million Euro is already a good offer in my opinion, also Mbappe will probably accept it because that man just wants join Real Madrid to fulfill his dream to get a lot of achievement.

By the way, yes, Paris Saint-Germain dug a hole for themselves with their financial flirtations with Mbappe, and if the amount of 225 million euros is correct, then this is a very good option for the club to part with the footballer avoiding larger losses. And by the way, after all the actions that Mbappe and his family have taken, I much less believe that Mbappe is now able to have a dream Wink

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It is said that Real Madrid made a transfer offer of 230 million euros for Kylian Mbappe. If Paris SG does not accept this offer, Mbappe will go down in history as a bad transfer policy for them. The money offered by Real Madrid should be the maximum transfer fee to a player scheduled to join the team for free next year.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 29, 2023, 08:35:53 PM

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

This is just a friendly match, with no reward or punishment, and it's mainly for testing the squad's purpose. Therefore, we can't evaluate whether Real Madrid's squad is weaker than Barcelona. It requires a longer period of time in the official season to make a proper evaluation.

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Barcelona was losing against real madrid. It surprises me to see how barcelona humiliated real madrid with 3-0 as the final scores. It seems like that if arsenal is far stronger compared with real madrid at this moment. The quality will never lie. Madrid needs to solve all of its problems.

The new players do nothing when it was facing barcelona while arsenal was able scoring so many goals against barcelona. It seems like that the quality from real madrid is still far below arsenal at this moment.

Real Madrid's performance was terrible in the friendly match, showing that Barcelona has a stronger squad.

Im very disappointed with the performance from real madrid players. 3-0 is a big scores.

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Quote from: Doell on July 29, 2023, 05:34:31 PM

Always to be hot topic Cheesy

PSG pushing Mbappe maybe I think because of his big salary at there, also to recruit new players PSG may need other funds. Although they have a lot of money but maybe they don't want spend a lot more money again, I mean to recruit new players. If that news is true then 225 million Euro is already a good offer in my opinion, also Mbappe will probably accept it because that man just wants join Real Madrid to fulfill his dream to get a lot of achievement.

By the way, yes, Paris Saint-Germain dug a hole for themselves with their financial flirtations with Mbappe, and if the amount of 225 million euros is correct, then this is a very good option for the club to part with the footballer avoiding larger losses. And by the way, after all the actions that Mbappe and his family have taken, I much less believe that Mbappe is now able to have a dream Wink

Money is his main dream now Wink

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