La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1978.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 28, 2023, 04:06:10 PM

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The meeting of these two big clubs will always be interesting, although for some people there is something missing, because the players we used to see in the match are no longer there and are now dominated by new players. And the most lost is when Real Madrid must be left behind CR7 and Barcelona lost LM10, of course these 2 players are the 2 players who get the most attention in their El Clasicco era.
A new era has begun, even from the previous season, but when looking at the last el clasicco duel, there is blood flowing from the seniors, that is, they play with hot tension.

This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

Players coming and going is a given, and now they're without Benzema as you said, and in the Barcelona camp they have Lewandowski who was the top scorer last season.
There are some very noticeable changes, for example Xavi Hernandez himself, he used to be a player during el classico whereas now he's a coach. Real Madrid also experienced the same when Zidane was still a player.
I'm eager to see how their new players heat up the match, because usually if new players will be a little surprised by the atmosphere that occurs in the meeting of these two clubs.

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Quote from: OcTradism on July 29, 2023, 03:40:40 AM

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That's what I feel is why Xavi needs to look for a pure striker like Lewandoswki. Ansu Fati is not a center forward and Fati's real position is as a winger. It will not be optimal to make it an option to cover Lewandowski's position.

Ansu Fati is like a forward than a winger but he has to show his ability more if he is too slow, he will be sold out. Barcelona can not wait for Fati too long as three seasons since his debut for Barcelona in 2019 -2020 season, he has been given some years to grow up.

Ansu Fati profile and there is rumor that Barcelona want to sell him to get money and it seems time is counting down for him. A coming season is important for Ansu Fati future in Barcelona and he should not waste that chance.

Yes, I am aware of the rumors that Ansu Fati is for sale.
There is nothing shown by Ansu Fati that makes Xavi have to make him a core player who is included in the starting eleven in every Barca match.
If Barcelona think that Fati cannot return to his best playing form, sell him and buy another striker as I have stated above.

Lewandowski is physically good so his role this season has really helped Xavi in the title fight with Real Madrid. Very different from the attacker listed in the Barcelona squad.
Ansu Fati also often experiences injuries so his name doesn't appear like Gavi and Pedri.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on July 28, 2023, 05:26:11 PM

Robert Lewandowski will soon be 35 years old and well as he gets older maybe his performance will also decrease. Because age still can't lie to the stamina of the players. We can see a decline in the performance of great players like CR7, Messi and Benzema as they get older. And Benzema is now going to an Arab club (Al-Ittihad) because he may realize that he is no longer young and it will be difficult for him to compete with young players who can still continue to improve from season to season. Like at Real Madrid last season, Benzema hasn't played much due to injury but a young player like Vinicius jr can replace him well.

I think so with Robert Lewandowski maybe this season he won't be as good as last season either. But if the 34-year-old player can consistently show his loyalty in Barcelona's attack then I will really appreciate it.

The decline in performance for a player like Lewandowski is very likely to occur slowly and not suddenly where when last season he was still quite productive by contributing 23 goals for Barcelona then suddenly this season his number of goals dropped to 50% it looks impossible because Lewandowski is one of the players who consistent, the season is about to start he will still probably score a lot of goals for Barcelona unless he gets injured but that rarely happens in his career, and I can't imagine if their main striker drops drastically it will bring Barça in such a bad state because other Barca forwards are not as productive as Lewan, but next season it is very possible for Barca to start looking for a replacement, because as he gets older it will be difficult for Lewandowski to play full time also with the tight schedule of matches that his club must play, because Barcelona will also play in competitions europe.
Of course moving to another league will also be experienced by the Barca striker, especially if there is a club that wants him like in the SPL or MLS.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 29, 2023, 02:57:33 AM

Is as if Lewandowski knows he will end up doing better for Barcelona last season, when Lewandowski was signed into Barcelona he gave fans assurance he will help Barcelona score goals to win laliga and this is what happened at the end of everything. Lewandowski was the best signing for Barcelona last season, I still have the believe Lewandowski will still do better for Barcelona in this season because he is good in scoring goals, he never struggles to score goals. I haven't yet seen a striker that will challenge Lewandowski this season to score the highest goal.

Yes, he is an excellent player and an excellent striker. Better than him Victor Osihmen who has scored many more goals in a much more competitive and difficult championship. They are the two strikers I would like in my beloved Juventus, but it's obviously a daydream.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 29, 2023, 02:57:33 AM

Is as if Lewandowski knows he will end up doing better for Barcelona last season, when Lewandowski was signed into Barcelona he gave fans assurance he will help Barcelona score goals to win laliga and this is what happened at the end of everything.

Lewandowski is one of best strikers in the last 20 years and he got many titles and awards with Bayern Munich. I remembered he told in one interview that he decided to move to Barcelona because he likes tiki-taka after some seasons with Guardiola and he wanted to explore it at its origin, Barcelona.

Quote from: yudi09 on July 29, 2023, 02:38:05 AM

That's what I feel is why Xavi needs to look for a pure striker like Lewandoswki. Ansu Fati is not a center forward and Fati's real position is as a winger. It will not be optimal to make it an option to cover Lewandowski's position.

Ansu Fati is like a forward than a winger but he has to show his ability more if he is too slow, he will be sold out. Barcelona can not wait for Fati too long as three seasons since his debut for Barcelona in 2019 -2020 season, he has been given some years to grow up.

Ansu Fati profile and there is rumor that Barcelona want to sell him to get money and it seems time is counting down for him. A coming season is important for Ansu Fati future in Barcelona and he should not waste that chance.

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Quote from: klidex on July 28, 2023, 07:42:33 AM

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Yes, that's true, but when we meet in the Champions League later, I'm still sure that Manchester United can still give a draw against Real Madrid, so it might make it difficult for Real Madrid to win like this pre-season game.

Ancelotti can definitely give the best for Real Madrid so that in the next match against Barcelona there is still a high chance of winning for Real Madrid.
I don't know if many agree or not, but for Real Madrid vs Barcelona in this pre-season I assume Real Madrid can win.

What you say seems contradictory and if you say Real madrid is difficult to fight Manchstr United in the champions league it is a big mistake because from experience Real madrid is superior and Manchstr United does not have strong reliable players to be able to compete with Real madrid.
You can't take this pre-season match seriously because it just a trial match so you shouldn't take the match seriously and regarding the Barcelona match with Real Madrid, most people choose Real Madrid to win but something can happen and my prediction is Barcelona win.

For pre-season matches, maybe Manchester United is still outmatched by Real Madrid, but for the upcoming Champions League, we don't know what Manchester United's game will be like. Manchester United can take several players who can strengthen and sharpen the attack line.

For pre-season matches I don't take them seriously because they are just friendly matches but for the next long league like La Liga or the Champions League maybe Real Madrid can play better and be above Barcelona.

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Yes, that's true, but when we meet in the Champions League later, I'm still sure that Manchester United can still give a draw against Real Madrid, so it might make it difficult for Real Madrid to win like this pre-season game.

Ancelotti can definitely give the best for Real Madrid so that in the next match against Barcelona there is still a high chance of winning for Real Madrid.
I don't know if many agree or not, but for Real Madrid vs Barcelona in this pre-season I assume Real Madrid can win.

@tusandi I don’t expect both sides to bring their best game in this fixture because both sides would like to experiment in this fixture and provide game time to as many player’s they can. Furthermore both have equal edge because while Barcelona have a proven striker in the form of Lewandowski Real Madrid has the best young midfielder in the form of Bellingham hence this will be a balanced tie and I would advise not to expect much from this fixture.

That's right and this match will be a great opportunity for both teams to test the game and skills of the players before actually competing in an important League.
Real Madrid and Barcelona have prepared pretty well for next summer, but if you look at it from a player perspective, maybe Real Madrid is superior to Barcelona.

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Barcelona decision to sell Aubameyang and then replace it with Lewandowski was very correct, Lewandowski was able to answer Xavi trust in him by helping Barcelona win the La Liga title race as well as the Super Cup. Lewandowski was also the top scorer last season which made Benzema fail to win the top scorer title twice in a row.

I completely agree that Lewandowski was one of the best signings for Barcelona last season, even though I was in a rival team. Lewandowski has become the best striker in La Liga in just one season, which is a great achievement for an aging striker like him. Benzema and La Liga have to admit his prowess, he was the top scorer of La Liga last season.

But as for next season, I hope Lewandowski will never be the same again. He can still be expected to score goals, but he can't hold that record much longer without being substituted. Next season we no longer have Benzema, but other players should be able to replace him to compete on the top scorer board.

Is as if Lewandowski knows he will end up doing better for Barcelona last season, when Lewandowski was signed into Barcelona he gave fans assurance he will help Barcelona score goals to win laliga and this is what happened at the end of everything. Lewandowski was the best signing for Barcelona last season, I still have the believe Lewandowski will still do better for Barcelona in this season because he is good in scoring goals, he never struggles to score goals. I haven't yet seen a striker that will challenge Lewandowski this season to score the highest goal.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 28, 2023, 05:59:55 PM

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This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

As long as it's a friendly match, then it's not a problem, and maybe Barcelona will try to play relaxed because I'm sure they won't use the formation used during friendlies in the upcoming league matches. In this match, Xavi will keep an eye on this, and Weaknesses will still be improved because there is still time.

I feel just the opposite.
There are more important things than just friendship when it comes to El Clasico because matches like this are always full of prestige.
I think we know how the tension and rivalry is when these two clubs play so I don't think there's anything to be relaxed about because egos and prestige are obviously bigger.

Even though this match will not mean anything and will not prove that they are the strongest in the next season, losing to rivals is something that is highly avoided in order to maintain the prestige that has long existed.
The match starts tomorrow and I think it will be an interesting first El clasico of the new season.

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Quote from: mamesso on July 28, 2023, 10:34:53 AM

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Lewandowski was able to answer Xavi's wish by scoring goals in his first season with Barcelona. It is undeniable that Xavi must look for Lewandowski's cover because Ansu Fati, Ferran Torres, Raphinha, Dembele are not pure centre-forwards.
Barcelona's ideal 4-3-3 formation is slightly advantageous if Xavi defends with one centre-forward as a winger can be a goalscorer assisted by a creative midfielder but there are times when Lewandowski gets injured and will turn into a weakness. At least that's what I feel.

Barcelona decision to sell Aubameyang and then replace it with Lewandowski was very correct, Lewandowski was able to answer Xavi trust in him by helping Barcelona win the La Liga title race as well as the Super Cup. Lewandowski was also the top scorer last season which made Benzema fail to win the top scorer title twice in a row.

Xavi can still rely on Ansu Fati as a substitute for Lewandowski if there are problems with his health. Raphinha is starting to blend into Barcelona style of play, he can be relied on on the right wing. Lewandowski certainly cannot always be played in every match, especially since Barcelona match schedule this season is very tight, Xavi needs to rotate in several matches in order to maintain the fitness of his players while preventing injury to his flagship player.

That's what I feel is why Xavi needs to look for a pure striker like Lewandoswki. Ansu Fati is not a center forward and Fati's real position is as a winger. It will not be optimal to make it an option to cover Lewandowski's position.
After getting Gundongan from Manchester City, Barcelona signed Vitor Roque from Athlico Paranaense on July 5, who plays as ST. IMO, Vitor Roque's posture is also not much different from Ansu Fati and will experience difficulties when dealing with opposing defenders who have a larger stature.

I'm trying to repeat history when Barcelona signed Thierry Henry and Ibrahimovic. Barcelona's goal is to bring in the two players I mentioned to win the aerial duel even though the results were not as desired. But it's important to consider.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on July 28, 2023, 10:44:57 PM

EL Classico will only be exciting when Barcelona and Real Madrid have almost equal player skill. Mbappe's Real Madrid will undoubtedly lead Real Madrid ahead of Barcelona.
Barcelona used to have enough money which allowed them to buy players on par with Real Madrid but they don't have that opportunity at the moment as they are suffering from financial problems. If Mbappe is signed by Real Madrid next season, Barcelona will sign a player considering Mbappe's power, speed and skill. EL Classico will be exciting when the two teams are as aggressive as ever with neither team conceding a single point and talking to their opponents eye to eye. Only if they come back will EL Classico be as exciting as ever.

It will only be a friendly match, so don't give this match the same importance as the official matches. Mbappe is able to strengthen the attack of Real Madrid, but I think that now in football the value of one player for the team is a little overestimated, the team game will decide a lot. Nothing is clear with Mbappe yet, but it looks like PSG have definitely decided to sell him, since he does not train with the team and does not play friendly matches.

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 29, 2023, 01:12:41 AM

I think this season Real Madrid team will try to do something great in La Liga, because they did very poorly in La Liga last season while focusing on Champions League. I think Barcelona and Real Madrid will be a great fight in La Liga this time.

It wont be as interesting as it used to be, even though La Liga is always known for its tough competition from Real Madrid to Barcelona, but after the senior players have left each team, there is no competition that is really tight because later, even though Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete in La Liga, but for sure Madrid will focus more on the champions league again and for sure Barcelona will fill first place in the standings and Madrid will be runners up like last season.
but this is all just speculation or prediction because no one really knows what will happen, for sure all the teams in La Liga have had major changes from player reshuffles which have significantly increased their performance. so that all the teams here will compete for the best places and get tickets to the European league or champions league in the next season.

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First El Clasico in this season between Barcelona vs Real Madrid will play tomorrow, how excited this pre season match because both teams with bigger rivalry. Usually, El Clasico is very interesting match for watching because both teams won't loss but depend this El Clasico time as pre season match will Xavi Hernandez and Carlo Ancelotti use main player or reserve players. The result from first El Clasico in this season not really important because its not La Liga or Champion League match but depend on reputation with El Clasico between Barcelona or Real Madrid will give huge pressure for this match.

Current pre season match, Real Madrid win from United and Barcelona defeated by Arsenal, will Madrid continues top performance in pre season match or Barcelona winning in the first el clasico match?

It will be interesting to wait even though this time Elclasico arrives early in the pre-season competition, Xavi has to improve his back line so he doesn't concede too many goals like in the previous match against Arsenal. But agree with what you said that this is only a friendly match, not all potential will be used and of course avoiding player injury must be a priority.

La Liga will start in about two weeks, and the pre-season event can at least build chemistry between fellow players. after officially rolling the players will be ready to give their best performance, I think the pre-season direction is aiming there.

I think this season Real Madrid team will try to do something great in La Liga, because they did very poorly in La Liga last season while focusing on Champions League. I think Barcelona and Real Madrid will be a great fight in La Liga this time.

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Quote from: Bobrox on July 28, 2023, 10:54:42 PM

First El Clasico in this season between Barcelona vs Real Madrid will play tomorrow, how excited this pre season match because both teams with bigger rivalry. Usually, El Clasico is very interesting match for watching because both teams won't loss but depend this El Clasico time as pre season match will Xavi Hernandez and Carlo Ancelotti use main player or reserve players. The result from first El Clasico in this season not really important because its not La Liga or Champion League match but depend on reputation with El Clasico between Barcelona or Real Madrid will give huge pressure for this match.

Current pre season match, Real Madrid win from United and Barcelona defeated by Arsenal, will Madrid continues top performance in pre season match or Barcelona winning in the first el clasico match?

It will be interesting to wait even though this time Elclasico arrives early in the pre-season competition, Xavi has to improve his back line so he doesn't concede too many goals like in the previous match against Arsenal. But agree with what you said that this is only a friendly match, not all potential will be used and of course avoiding player injury must be a priority.

La Liga will start in about two weeks, and the pre-season event can at least build chemistry between fellow players. after officially rolling the players will be ready to give their best performance, I think the pre-season direction is aiming there.

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Quote from: fachant on July 28, 2023, 10:02:41 AM

The Barcelona team has performed exceptionally well in the last season. The team is progressing tremendously day by day. This season, Barcelona may try hard for the Champions League. Also expect a great matchup with Real Madrid in LaLiga.

The match against el real will become the match to proves how strong barcelona is right now. Real madrid is the only strongest opponent for barcelona in la liga. As long as barcelona will able to beat real madrid and the chance to get la liga is very big.
Barcelona can compare their performance with Real Madrid through the friendly match result.. I think that barcelona and real madrid gonna use the main squad.

It's quite hard to predict which team gonna win the game. Barcelona was losing against arsenal while real madrid was able beating manchester united. The problem if arsenal was losing against manchester united in the friendly match.
It's hard to know how strong real madrid and barcelona until the el classico gonna happen very soon. We will see attractive performance from barcelona and real madrid very soon.

I think that madrid gonna win the game against barcelona.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 28, 2023, 04:06:10 PM

This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

You forgot that if real madrid has joselu on its team, which has been also in the list of top scorer last season under benzema. Joselu will able to replace benzema and it needs time till he will be fully adapted to the club. You didn't count that inf your post while joselu was also contributing a goal during the match against manchester united. Xavi has been losing against arsenal. I think that the new squad of real madrid gonna be much stronger even though there was noa. lot of changes on it.

It's caused by madrid was just only adding bellingham and joselu as central forward. It will be very interesting to see the next elclassico between real madrid and barcelona very soon.

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First El Clasico in this season between Barcelona vs Real Madrid will play tomorrow, how excited this pre season match because both teams with bigger rivalry. Usually, El Clasico is very interesting match for watching because both teams won't loss but depend this El Clasico time as pre season match will Xavi Hernandez and Carlo Ancelotti use main player or reserve players. The result from first El Clasico in this season not really important because its not La Liga or Champion League match but depend on reputation with El Clasico between Barcelona or Real Madrid will give huge pressure for this match.

Current pre season match, Real Madrid win from United and Barcelona defeated by Arsenal, will Madrid continues top performance in pre season match or Barcelona winning in the first el clasico match?

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Really, wouldn't it be the other way around? This is because several players such as Benzema, Asensio, Busquets and Jordi Alba have not been seen in the EL Classico duels this season. They is the people who play a role in make EL Clasico more competitive and exciting in previous seasons, while there has not been seen a replacement that has the same potential or is close to the players I mention earlier.

I think EL Classico will still be exciting next season even though some of the players you mentioned are no longer in La Liga, because fans of both teams or those who really like EL Classico will definitely still have a lot next season so the excitement might still be seen though it is also true that some of the players you mentioned need to be replaced in La Liga who can at least be a bit equal to them in order to keep EL Classico tense and fierce.

EL Classico will only be exciting when Barcelona and Real Madrid have almost equal player skill. Mbappe's Real Madrid will undoubtedly lead Real Madrid ahead of Barcelona.
Barcelona used to have enough money which allowed them to buy players on par with Real Madrid but they don't have that opportunity at the moment as they are suffering from financial problems. If Mbappe is signed by Real Madrid next season, Barcelona will sign a player considering Mbappe's power, speed and skill. EL Classico will be exciting when the two teams are as aggressive as ever with neither team conceding a single point and talking to their opponents eye to eye. Only if they come back will EL Classico be as exciting as ever.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 28, 2023, 04:06:10 PM

This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

As long as it's a friendly match, then it's not a problem, and maybe Barcelona will try to play relaxed because I'm sure they won't use the formation used during friendlies in the upcoming league matches. In this match, Xavi will keep an eye on this, and Weaknesses will still be improved because there is still time.

It is true that Barcelona will play relaxed in this match and even though this is just a pre-season with an El Clasico nuance, of course the two teams will still provide good entertainment for the spectators who have come. We know that this is the most anticipated pre-season match by the American people and they certainly don't want to expect this match to be a draw and one of them has to lose.

On the other hand, for Barcelona they also cannot lose again even though this is only a pre-season match because maybe there will be so much ridicule from fans who start criticizing it and I hope that even if that happens later, Barcelona must be prepared with rational answers and don't need to look for excuses like against Arsenal. Meanwhile, Real Madrid will certainly appear in earnest to continue their winning trend in pre-season matches and this can be an additional value for every player who will compete in the actual matches later.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 28, 2023, 06:12:40 PM

I would also hope to see Lewandowski recovering to his usual performance by the beginning of this season. Because I don't believe his performance was just at the level to meet the expectations exactly. He struggled to score goals in critical games in the Champions League especially. This is a problem for Barcelona obviously.

Because the expectations will get bigger in the Champions League this season. They will need to be expected to get past the group stage successfully this time. Not only Lewandowski of course. They need to improve the team effort as a whole.

we consider that Lewandowsky had to settle in a new championship, much more technical than the Bundesliga. Despite this he managed to
score 23 goals in 35 La Liga matches
5 goals in 5 Champions League games
1 goal in 2 Europa League matches.
Given his stats, I don't think the time has come for his form and physical prowess to decline yet, in my opinion he can manage to achieve another 2 years at these levels

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 28, 2023, 06:12:40 PM

I would also hope to see Lewandowski recovering to his usual performance by the beginning of this season. Because I don't believe his performance was just at the level to meet the expectations exactly. He struggled to score goals in critical games in the Champions League especially. This is a problem for Barcelona obviously.

Because the expectations will get bigger in the Champions League this season. They will need to be expected to get past the group stage successfully this time. Not only Lewandowski of course. They need to improve the team effort as a whole.

Barcelona will seek a means to increase their overall performance in premier competitions next season; this includes not just accomplishing excellent results in La Liga, but also having good succeeding accomplishments in other tournaments. The blaugrana's top striker, Robert Lewandowski, understands of what the fans and his colleagues require from him; they want to see the Robert Lewandowski they signed from Bayern Munich, but the one that they're seeing is completely different and in poor condition. It's about time we see a different side of the Poland international, who has good attacking abilities.

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