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Quote from: hahay on July 29, 2023, 09:46:43 AM

I don't agree if you say Real Madrid were bad last season, because if Real Madrid were bad last season but why did Real Madrid still win the Copa del Rey. Also, the benchmark for Real Madrid success is not only about the Champions League and La Liga titles. Because anyway, as long as Real Madrid still has a good ability to compete in the upper zone in the La Liga standings and can also still compete further in the Champions League. Then of course, for me Real Madrid cannot be said to be bad at all. Also about Ancelotti, for me personally it seems that the Ancelotti era may have faded a little. Because if Ancelotti still has great abilities, then at least Ancelotti can still succeed when Ancelotti was Everton coach at that time. So yes, I am personally not surprised if at this moment maybe Ancelotti will experience a little obstacle to make Real Madrid have a better performance and also stable.

Real Madrid had a great season from a business standpoint as they only played one game less in the Champions League than theoretically possible. But from the fans' point of view, losing La Liga is a big blow, even though it didn't look like a triumph for Barcelona, but rather a consequence of Real's internal problems. At the moment, I see that Ancelotti has a chance to be at the top again, but it all depends on whether Real Madrid gets Mbappe (or Kane) now. If they get him, they will be on a par with City, if not, they will be underdogs (to what extent is another question).

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 29, 2023, 11:26:18 AM

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Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

Real Madrid performed brilliantly last season but they weren't lucky enough to win UCL. Everyday is not Christmas and I don't think that Real Madrid is the only club in Laliga and UCL that will always win the leagues as if it is their birth right. From season to season the strongest club that is in form without injuries to set them back will always come out successful.

Ancelotti needs to get a striker that will replace Benzema and I think that the club in still in a good shape and are also preparing for next season. I know that they will perform better this season and will be lucky too.

However Real madrid always tries its best with several efforts so that the club's performance gets stronger in every season and we know Real madrid is one of the clubs that has the most champions league titles that I know and I hope that next season Real madrid will give the champions league title to its fans

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 29, 2023, 09:27:08 AM

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Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

Real Madrid performed brilliantly last season but they weren't lucky enough to win UCL. Everyday is not Christmas and I don't think that Real Madrid is the only club in Laliga and UCL that will always win the leagues as if it is their birth right. From season to season the strongest club that is in form without injuries to set them back will always come out successful.

Ancelotti needs to get a striker that will replace Benzema and I think that the club in still in a good shape and are also preparing for next season. I know that they will perform better this season and will be lucky too.

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I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

There is no denying this fact, Real Madrid has long held the title as one of the biggest teams in the world, apart from that Real Madrid is also the team that won the most titles in the Champions League. Real Madrid had a disappointing season last season, they couldn't maintain their best form in the Champions League and La Liga. Losing these two trophies is a big failure for a team like Real Madrid.

Real Madrid most difficult moment to forget last season was when they were beaten by Manchester City in the second leg of the Champions League semi-finals. This defeat has not only thwarted Real Madrid dream of getting to the final but Manchester City has made Real Madrid not like a big team. This season Real Madrid has evaluated last season's failures by bringing in several new players, but Real Madrid still haven't found a quality striker who can be relied on in important matches.
Real Madrid really needs an important figure in the striker area who can partner with Vinicius in achieving his goals so that last season's failures are not repeated.

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It seems that not many people know, Xavi only has 1 year left on his contract. He will be discharged in 2024. But it seems that there has been no news of an extension or separation for him. But if you look at the current situation he will stay at Barcelona. Xavi has incredible achievements, he can deliver titles. In addition, as a former Barcelona player, it seems that Xavi's loyalty is very good. Xavi doesn't seem to think much about this problem, he's more busy improving the strength of the team.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 29, 2023, 09:27:08 AM

Quote from: hyudien on July 29, 2023, 09:06:54 AM

Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

Real Madrid changed the transfer tactic we know and started to recruit younger and more potential players. This shows Real Madrid's investment in the future. The young players they get will play together for years. They aim for great harmony. If Real Madrid succeeds in this, it will be very difficult for any team to score points from Real Madrid. I support these goals. Because Real Madrid should always play at the top.

Young staff needs improvement, yes you are right. This young team has the potential to complete its development very quickly. We will see this and now we will hear the names of new stars often.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 29, 2023, 09:27:08 AM

Quote from: hyudien on July 29, 2023, 09:06:54 AM

Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

I don't agree if you say Real Madrid were bad last season, because if Real Madrid were bad last season but why did Real Madrid still win the Copa del Rey. Also, the benchmark for Real Madrid success is not only about the Champions League and La Liga titles. Because anyway, as long as Real Madrid still has a good ability to compete in the upper zone in the La Liga standings and can also still compete further in the Champions League. Then of course, for me Real Madrid cannot be said to be bad at all. Also about Ancelotti, for me personally it seems that the Ancelotti era may have faded a little. Because if Ancelotti still has great abilities, then at least Ancelotti can still succeed when Ancelotti was Everton coach at that time. So yes, I am personally not surprised if at this moment maybe Ancelotti will experience a little obstacle to make Real Madrid have a better performance and also stable.

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Quote from: hyudien on July 29, 2023, 09:06:54 AM

Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

I totally agree with you. Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams in the world, and Carlo Ancelotti is also a good coach who has a winning mentality. Their poor performance last season must have been evaluated and I'm sure they have high expectations this season. They haven't brought many players this season, but I think they will still be strong candidates in the title race.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 29, 2023, 07:35:17 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on July 29, 2023, 07:12:32 AM

Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

This season will be a fierce battle for Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even though Real Madrid had to be willing to hand over the La Liga trophy to Barcelona last season, but Barcelona's performance was not too impressive. So for this season, both Barcelona and Real Madrid have the same chance to become champions, but if it turns out that Real Madrid can sign Mbappe before the season starts, I think Real Madrid will have a bigger chance than Barcelona.

Real Madrid is Real Madrid, this club may have been bad last season but it's always easy to get back up and become a threat to its competitors, especially in La Liga which will always be a place where Real Madrid shows its existence. In the Champions League next season they can definitely make a change for the better. I know that today's young squad still needs development, but Ancelotti is used to this and still deserves to give everything he has before the end of his contract.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 29, 2023, 02:42:44 AM

Even though this match will not mean anything and will not prove that they are the strongest in the next season, losing to rivals is something that is highly avoided in order to maintain the prestige that has long existed.
The match starts tomorrow and I think it will be an interesting first El clasico of the new season.

I'm really looking forward to this match, and it doesn't matter if it's a friendly or not, because in terms of history, Barcelona and Madrid are not only enemies on the pitch but off it as well. the fans don't always seem to get along when it comes to the 2 clubs they love. Therefore this fight will be of high quality.

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If I want to talk about El Clasico. El Clásico will be great, Barcelona team is full strength now. Also, Real Madrid will focus on La Liga from now on. So the matches between these two teams will be very competitive.

It's still valid to say El Clasico? I don't feel hype because it's only Kroos and Modric are the old generations who still playing until now, while the rest already retired or joined other club. Real Madrid and Barcelona are obviously the biggest clubs in La Liga, but it's only that, there's no more pride to make sure not lose when they meet each other.

I feel next season will be an easy win for Barcelona.

So in the end, Madrid and Barcelona are still rivals and they will always compete. Not sure 100% whether it is certain that Barcelona will have the La Liga trophy next season, because the pre-season is not over yet. Barcelona does have an ideal squad, but even Madrid cannot be underestimated right now, with the reshuffling of players showing positive results this should be considered a big threat to Barcelona. And it's one thing if Madrid quietly closes the transfer market this summer with the arrival of Mbappe, then Barcelona fans will be even hotter.

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Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

This season will be a fierce battle for Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even though Real Madrid had to be willing to hand over the La Liga trophy to Barcelona last season, but Barcelona's performance was not too impressive. So for this season, both Barcelona and Real Madrid have the same chance to become champions, but if it turns out that Real Madrid can sign Mbappe before the season starts, I think Real Madrid will have a bigger chance than Barcelona.

Based on the arrangement on ground in this summer, showed that Real Madrid will not miss their opportunity in this season because their coach is still bring potential players that will make the team more stronger than last season. I don't think, Real Madrid coach will be able to sign in Kylian Mbappe in this summer because the amount of money PSG management are demanding, show that they are not ready to release him to Real Madrid because Real coach don't have such amount of money to spend on one player. Real Madrid has prepared well in this summer, to showcase some new skills that will help them to embrace the la Liga league title this season, because their new players are displaying wonders in the pre-season match.

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on July 29, 2023, 08:07:07 AM

If I want to talk about El Clasico. El Clásico will be great, Barcelona team is full strength now. Also, Real Madrid will focus on La Liga from now on. So the matches between these two teams will be very competitive.

It's still valid to say El Clasico? I don't feel hype because it's only Kroos and Modric are the old generations who still playing until now, while the rest already retired or joined other club. Real Madrid and Barcelona are obviously the biggest clubs in La Liga, but it's only that, there's no more pride to make sure not lose when they meet each other.

I feel next season will be an easy win for Barcelona.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 29, 2023, 07:35:17 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on July 29, 2023, 07:12:32 AM

Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

This season will be a fierce battle for Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even though Real Madrid had to be willing to hand over the La Liga trophy to Barcelona last season, but Barcelona's performance was not too impressive. So for this season, both Barcelona and Real Madrid have the same chance to become champions, but if it turns out that Real Madrid can sign Mbappe before the season starts, I think Real Madrid will have a bigger chance than Barcelona.

I think this pre-season will be a trial that I really have to watch and for sure they will play seriously with the main squad, because of course the meeting between the two is highly anticipated by their respective supporters considering the new players they add to the main squad will be a place to show their abilities. at this meeting, of course Xavi and ancelotti will field all their squad players as well as a mature strategy considering this is a prestigious meeting.

At least from this pre-season match we can see which club has really changed their squad and strategy more maturely, I'm not a supporter of both but I always watch El Clásico because they always put on a good game showing each other's ability to play. barcelona I think will play Gundogan as well as madrid will play Bellingham a young player who has entered the madrid squad..

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Quote from: Doell on July 29, 2023, 07:59:14 AM

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This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

You forgot that if real madrid has joselu on its team, which has been also in the list of top scorer last season under benzema. Joselu will able to replace benzema and it needs time till he will be fully adapted to the club. You didn't count that inf your post while joselu was also contributing a goal during the match against manchester united. Xavi has been losing against arsenal. I think that the new squad of real madrid gonna be much stronger even though there was noa. lot of changes on it.

It's caused by madrid was just only adding bellingham and joselu as central forward. It will be very interesting to see the next elclassico between real madrid and barcelona very soon.

The warm-up match before La Liga starts, the both teams will not prove anything in this match, it's just that maybe Barcelona and Real Madrid coaches might try some tactics in that match. But I think the both of coaches will see how performance of their new players in that match. It is still interesting to watch the progress Sir. Barcelona previously lost against Arsenal, will improve their weaknesses. And Real Madrid previously won against Manchester United as well as Milan, maybe they will be more confident to beat Barcelona.

If I want to talk about El Clasico. El Clásico will be great, Barcelona team is full strength now. Also, Real Madrid will focus on La Liga from now on. So the matches between these two teams will be very competitive.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 28, 2023, 04:06:10 PM

This EL Classico can be very interesting because this time in this EL Classico Real Madrid don't have Benzema but they have players like Jude Bellingham who scored a goal in the last friendly match and on the other hand this game can be a hard test for Xavi and his players to find weakness and try to improve it.

You forgot that if real madrid has joselu on its team, which has been also in the list of top scorer last season under benzema. Joselu will able to replace benzema and it needs time till he will be fully adapted to the club. You didn't count that inf your post while joselu was also contributing a goal during the match against manchester united. Xavi has been losing against arsenal. I think that the new squad of real madrid gonna be much stronger even though there was noa. lot of changes on it.

It's caused by madrid was just only adding bellingham and joselu as central forward. It will be very interesting to see the next elclassico between real madrid and barcelona very soon.

The warm-up match before La Liga starts, the both teams will not prove anything in this match, it's just that maybe Barcelona and Real Madrid coaches might try some tactics in that match. But I think the both of coaches will see how performance of their new players in that match. It is still interesting to watch the progress Sir. Barcelona previously lost against Arsenal, will improve their weaknesses. And Real Madrid previously won against Manchester United as well as Milan, maybe they will be more confident to beat Barcelona.

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EL Classico will only be exciting when Barcelona and Real Madrid have almost equal player skill. Mbappe's Real Madrid will undoubtedly lead Real Madrid ahead of Barcelona.
Barcelona used to have enough money which allowed them to buy players on par with Real Madrid but they don't have that opportunity at the moment as they are suffering from financial problems. If Mbappe is signed by Real Madrid next season, Barcelona will sign a player considering Mbappe's power, speed and skill. EL Classico will be exciting when the two teams are as aggressive as ever with neither team conceding a single point and talking to their opponents eye to eye. Only if they come back will EL Classico be as exciting as ever.

It will only be a friendly match, so don't give this match the same importance as the official matches. Mbappe is able to strengthen the attack of Real Madrid, but I think that now in football the value of one player for the team is a little overestimated, the team game will decide a lot. Nothing is clear with Mbappe yet, but it looks like PSG have definitely decided to sell him, since he does not train with the team and does not play friendly matches.

Mbappé is at most one more year at PSG before he might change clubs after a year. Real Madrid is the most likely for him to switch clubs. There were rumors that he had signed a verbal agreement with Real Madrid, although no proof of this has been found. PSG believes that Real Madrid's contract with Mbappe has been completed officially, so PSG is not giving such importance to Mbappe in the team. If Mbappe doesn't come to Real Madrid this season, the game between Barcelona and Real Madrid will be a bit competitive, but when Mbappe comes to Real Madrid, the difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona will be different. Mbappe joining Real Madrid will see Real Madrid win most of the matches and make Real Madrid a great chance to win not only against Barcelona but against every team.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on July 29, 2023, 07:12:32 AM

Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

This season will be a fierce battle for Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even though Real Madrid had to be willing to hand over the La Liga trophy to Barcelona last season, but Barcelona's performance was not too impressive. So for this season, both Barcelona and Real Madrid have the same chance to become champions, but if it turns out that Real Madrid can sign Mbappe before the season starts, I think Real Madrid will have a bigger chance than Barcelona.

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I would also hope to see Lewandowski recovering to his usual performance by the beginning of this season. Because I don't believe his performance was just at the level to meet the expectations exactly. He struggled to score goals in critical games in the Champions League especially. This is a problem for Barcelona obviously.

Because the expectations will get bigger in the Champions League this season. They will need to be expected to get past the group stage successfully this time. Not only Lewandowski of course. They need to improve the team effort as a whole.

Although Barcelona is one of the best teams in the world and one of the best teams that frequently wins both the champion league and the laliga, I think that everything has changed since Messi left Barcelona because Barcelona's performance in both the champion and the laliga has not been great, despite their efforts to win the league. You make good points regarding Barcelona because, given that we know it is one of the top teams in the world, its performance in the champions league will appear to be fairly subpar. Most notably, Barcelona's forward players like Lewandowski, whose performance in the Champions League appears to be subpar despite looking brilliant in the La Liga.

Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

I think the Barcelona team managed to perform well last season. But since Xavi has been able to build the team exceptionally well, I think there is potential to do well in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 28, 2023, 06:12:40 PM

I would also hope to see Lewandowski recovering to his usual performance by the beginning of this season. Because I don't believe his performance was just at the level to meet the expectations exactly. He struggled to score goals in critical games in the Champions League especially. This is a problem for Barcelona obviously.

Because the expectations will get bigger in the Champions League this season. They will need to be expected to get past the group stage successfully this time. Not only Lewandowski of course. They need to improve the team effort as a whole.

Although Barcelona is one of the best teams in the world and one of the best teams that frequently wins both the champion league and the laliga, I think that everything has changed since Messi left Barcelona because Barcelona's performance in both the champion and the laliga has not been great, despite their efforts to win the league. You make good points regarding Barcelona because, given that we know it is one of the top teams in the world, its performance in the champions league will appear to be fairly subpar. Most notably, Barcelona's forward players like Lewandowski, whose performance in the Champions League appears to be subpar despite looking brilliant in the La Liga.

Real Madrid and Barcelona will play a preseason match today to display how their performances are, and I believe that both teams will try their best but real Madrid performance is better than Barcelona so that makes me think that real Madrid will be the one to win the title if Barcelona didn't take care. The upcoming laliga season will be very difficult, and I think if Barcelona didn't take care real Madrid will be the one to win the title.

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Quote from: yudi09 on July 29, 2023, 05:35:48 AM

Yes, I am aware of the rumors that Ansu Fati is for sale.
There is nothing shown by Ansu Fati that makes Xavi have to make him a core player who is included in the starting eleven in every Barca match.
If Barcelona think that Fati cannot return to his best playing form, sell him and buy another striker as I have stated above.

Lewandowski is physically good so his role this season has really helped Xavi in the title fight with Real Madrid. Very different from the attacker listed in the Barcelona squad.
Ansu Fati also often experiences injuries so his name doesn't appear like Gavi and Pedri.

Reportedly Jorge Mendes pushed Barcelona management to release Ansu Fati because there was interest from a club from the English Premiere League for his client. However, Ansu Fati is a valuable asset for Barca even though he doesn't seem to be able to show good performance. I think that in one or two seasons his performance will be more mature, considering that currently Fati is only 20 years old. I don't think the number of goals can be the main benchmark for Wenger because Barca maximizes Lewandowski role as their pure striker.

Apart from these rumors, it is possible that Barcelona will release their winger this summer. Thus Barca can bring in players who are more mature to get better squad depth, so they can defend the championship trophy next season, if they don't want to be taken over by Real Madrid.

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