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It all depends on how often they continue to lose points, Real and Atletico have beaten them this round, and they still have a game in hand, and Athletic Bilbao are two points away, so even that's not the limit and they can go even lower. They look good in the game, even in the match against Atletico they controlled the whole game, but a few mistakes led to their defeat and this is not an isolated incident, the same thing happened against Leganes and Las Palmas, and this is too often.
The bad part is that Barcelona played one more game, not like they are in equal game count neither. So Barcelona is trailing Real Madrid 2 points, and Atletico Madrid 3 points, but Barcelona also played one more game, meaning the game could become 5 and 6 points as well. So recovering from that is not easy, even if you beat them next time you meet them, they don't close up the game and that's the most important part.

I can see why that would be an issue and that is why I think Barcelona will be in trouble, not seeing how they could win. It's such a well deserved bad season though, all as a revenge of Xavi for me. Xavi himself wanted to resign last year, they begged him to stay on, and then fired him instead, and he won the league one season and became second another season and they thought it was a bad result so they fired him, like anyone could have won two in a row, and they hired Flick instead, like that was a much better move, so instead, they are going to possibly finish third.
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Unfortunately, Hansi Flick's strong protest when Barcelona play away against Betis make him get a red card. And according to the sources I've read, Hansi Flick was sentenced to 1.5 months away from the team and as such, it may have been a factor in Barcelona's two consecutive defeats at home. Obviously, it was a bad result and also, a bad impact because of the emotions that Hansi Flick could not control at that time. If I had realized this factor yesterday, then of course I would not have bet on Barcelona but yes,  the result has happened and of course it is a big loss for Barcelona who really fell to third place. Because with situations and conditions like that, I believe it is difficult for Barcelona to return to the top of the standings.

There is no need to argue that it's bad for a coach if he has to be absent, but Barcelona hasn't played well for a longer period of time now. It is not only about his absence because of the penalty and my source said it was two games, which you turned into 1.5 months as they now have a winter break.

But if we have a look at both games, I don't think this had anything to do at all with Hansi Flick. Barcelona had 80% possession against Leganes and could not win the game. But what could Flick have down? Crash the playing field himself and score a goal? His players are in charge. Something that has been right in the beginning of the season has now been wrong for quite some time.

The game against Atletico was similar and while I think you can lose a game against Atletico despite being the stronger team because Atletico knows how to solve these game situations, the loss against Leganes was a joke.

It is so much back and forth for them and a few weeks ago it was as if Lewandowski has one of his best seasons ever and now he stops scoring.
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It is unacceptable that so many goal opportunities were missed. Barcelona could have earned 3 points from this match but they could not take advantage of the opportunities. Atletico Madrid completed the match with a very good strategy, they did not allow Barcelona to score and they won the match thanks to the goal they scored in the last minute. If Atletico continues to play like this, they will win the championship race at the end of the season. So, not everything is about having the best squad Smiley
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing with a good strategy, in fact without Oblak, Atletico Madrid might have conceded a lot of goals. Atletico Madrid players can only rely on counterattacks because they often lose control of the ball, make wrong passes and the only option is to defend using counterattacks. In terms of game quality, I believe that Barcelona is superior in terms of aspects, but because they don't have a reliable executor, in the end what Barcelona does is in vain.
Atletico game is always playing a defensive game and they play with their wingers. A club that plays more of defensive game will be very good at counterattack so that they can create chances of scoring goals. Barcelona is good than Atletico in Laliga but currently, Atletico is stable and consistent than Barcelona. Simeone is a coach that has always kept the quality of the team for quite sometimes, and deserves a trophy.
To maintain the continuity of a team, there is a need for quality players who can maintain performance. But if there is a gap or the performance of the players continues to deteriorate, then the position of the club will definitely deteriorate. Barcelona was in good form at the beginning of this season. At that time, it seemed that Barcelona was the best, but with the change of time, Barcelona has lost not only the first place but also the second one. If they cannot normalize the team's situation quickly, then there is a possibility that they will fall further behind. This club will not decline like that. They will definitely try to regain their previous position through the upcoming matches. I can agree with you that Atletico is playing a defensive game and they are performing on the field with the intention of moving forward confidently.
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Unfortunately, Hansi Flick's strong protest when Barcelona play away against Betis make him get a red card. And according to the sources I've read, Hansi Flick was sentenced to 1.5 months away from the team and as such, it may have been a factor in Barcelona's two consecutive defeats at home. Obviously, it was a bad result and also, a bad impact because of the emotions that Hansi Flick could not control at that time. If I had realized this factor yesterday, then of course I would not have bet on Barcelona but yes,  the result has happened and of course it is a big loss for Barcelona who really fell to third place. Because with situations and conditions like that, I believe it is difficult for Barcelona to return to the top of the standings.
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So, Barcelona have been dropped to third place and it's time to check title odds:

Real Madrid - 1.91

Barcelona Fc - 3.00

Atlético Madrid - 4.50

A bit paradoxical, right? Granted, I can understand why Real is higher than Atletico, but why is Barcelona higher than Atletico? After all, the facts show that Barcelona is more susceptible to a decline in results (despite any quality of play).
Real Madrid will definitely be given higher chance because of the quality of the players in the squad, they will be given high chance because they are also the defending champions and have signed a world class player that is hungry for title.

Barcelona is considered the second favorite because they also have some world class players in their squad and Hensi Flick can still get it right if Lamine Yamal comes back from injury which will increase their chance of winning the Laliga.

However, Atletico Madrid is considered the third option because the bookmakers don’t believe in Semione’s team, they don’t believe they can win the Laliga because of the nature of their squad.
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It is unacceptable that so many goal opportunities were missed. Barcelona could have earned 3 points from this match but they could not take advantage of the opportunities. Atletico Madrid completed the match with a very good strategy, they did not allow Barcelona to score and they won the match thanks to the goal they scored in the last minute. If Atletico continues to play like this, they will win the championship race at the end of the season. So, not everything is about having the best squad Smiley
It's nothing special usually, they does it every time Barcelona has to acknowledge it without Yamal Jamal they have nothing. At the starting of the season Barcelona was at the top of the league table but when Yamal Jamal got injured they are shifted to 3rd place. Although still all of thier key players on the field. Despite real Madrid having so many players who's are absent due to injuries but their hard work and competency bring them above the Barcelona. So therefore they always miss opportunities, just like they lost against Atletico Madrid.
Barcelona didn't have any potential to beat a team like Atlatico Madrid because they are a defensive team and all the time they stop thier opponent with thier strong defensive strategy. So that's why Barcelona couldn't find any good chance for scoring because they depend on one player. Now Atlatico Madrid are looking strong if they continue to perform brilliantly they can lift the league trophy and if they don't ineed real Madrid will win it again.
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Here is European tournament positions after leaving 18 weeks behind.



There are even teams playing 19 games as you can see. Barcelona are also one of them and this is a worrying look for them that's for sure.  Sad

Atletico Madrid are coming for the La Liga title as long as they keep this performance level during most of the season. They don't look like they will drop from this race easily this time.

Real Madrid are also right behind with a really lovely win. We were talking about how dominant Barcelona were before. But after the last a few weeks, balances have been upset too much. Only 1 win during last 5 games...
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In the Spanish League, Villarreal vs Rayo Vallecano match, both teams scored 1-1, which resulted in a draw. Rayo Vallecano performed well in the first half, but Rayo Vallecano failed to score a goal after halftime. Villarreal player W. Kambwala was sent off after receiving a red card in the 32nd minute. A. Pérez scored in the 45th+1 minute and the match was drawn.
Both teams gave excellent effort in this match and the result is in the front of us in the form of draw match. Both teams did 1,1 goal in this match and no team could do 2nd goal in this match .García did first goal of the match but after that, players of that team played defensive and result is in the form of draw. If you will see the stats of both teams then will say that Rayo Vallecano should do 2nd goal and they should win this match because they were ahead in everything.Their shots were 18 in this match which were more in number and 3 shots were on target. The possession percentage of that team was 55 percent and the opponent team possession was 45 percent . The passes of Rayo Vallecano team were also more in number which give the idea of their win in this match.
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So, Barcelona have been dropped to third place and it's time to check title odds:

Real Madrid - 1.91

Barcelona Fc - 3.00

Atlético Madrid - 4.50

A bit paradoxical, right? Granted, I can understand why Real is higher than Atletico, but why is Barcelona higher than Atletico? After all, the facts show that Barcelona is more susceptible to a decline in results (despite any quality of play).
Because Barcelona has a better squad than Atletico Madrid, right? Even if Barcelona has decreased, it is still the team favored by the bookies, but see after the end of the season maybe Barcelona can overtake Atletico Madrid again then the betting odds will change between Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Actually, is taking this opportunity worth the long wait?
I'm not really interested in taking the winning odds until the end of the season.

Nope  Grin Plus, we've seen many examples when a strong team on paper can't do anything because of the coach or other circumstances (like injuries), by the way, have you heard that Olmo might leave Barcelona in the winter because of the club's financial problems?
I think this imbalance in quotes is explained only by the cash flow - Barcelona has more fans than Atletico and Barcelona is a bigger brand.
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So, Barcelona have been dropped to third place and it's time to check title odds:

Real Madrid - 1.91

Barcelona Fc - 3.00

Atlético Madrid - 4.50

A bit paradoxical, right? Granted, I can understand why Real is higher than Atletico, but why is Barcelona higher than Atletico? After all, the facts show that Barcelona is more susceptible to a decline in results (despite any quality of play).

Though Atletico Madrid has just won Barcelona and at the same time more of a consistent team both in the league competition and european but Barcelona had a sound coach and manager who I think can thrive in the spanish la liga competition. All they need right now has to be some quality players and funds to get the desired players they want. Mine at the end of the season would ne;

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Thus time, Atletico Madrid really can silence its haters and break the pessimism of its fans, because in the end, for now, they can lead the standings. And the plus point is, La Liga is getting more interesting and challenging again, not only between Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​but also Atletico Madrid. Now, the three will compete with increasingly tight and challenging. Nothing is impossible, we will never know what will happen in the future, it could still be Atletico Madrid, or there will be another change for the club that is in the next top standing.

And because of that, Simeone really deserves to be the coach of the month in La Liga this time.

Source: Congratulations, @Simeone
Am I the only one who thinks Atletico Madrid manager isn't getting the amount of media praises he deserves for what he's been doing with his players this season? Apart from winning the Spanish La Liga manager of the month award, I think we aren't saying much about how he's turned a league that many people thought would be a two-horse race between Real Madrid and Barcelona to a very competitive one that can be won by his team. Over the weekend, he helped his side win at Camp Nou and that happened to be the first time since 2006 Atletico won at Barcelona. Diego Simeone deserves the award than any other person for making the club fans dream big again.
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It is unacceptable that so many goal opportunities were missed. Barcelona could have earned 3 points from this match but they could not take advantage of the opportunities. Atletico Madrid completed the match with a very good strategy, they did not allow Barcelona to score and they won the match thanks to the goal they scored in the last minute. If Atletico continues to play like this, they will win the championship race at the end of the season. So, not everything is about having the best squad Smiley
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing with a good strategy, in fact without Oblak, Atletico Madrid might have conceded a lot of goals. Atletico Madrid players can only rely on counterattacks because they often lose control of the ball, make wrong passes and the only option is to defend using counterattacks. In terms of game quality, I believe that Barcelona is superior in terms of aspects, but because they don't have a reliable executor, in the end what Barcelona does is in vain.
Atletico game is always playing a defensive game and they play with their wingers. A club that plays more of defensive game will be very good at counterattack so that they can create chances of scoring goals. Barcelona is good than Atletico in Laliga but currently, Atletico is stable and consistent than Barcelona. Simeone is a coach that has always kept the quality of the team for quite sometimes, and deserves a trophy.
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At the beginning of the season, I trusted Atletico Madrid and now they are in the lead. Simeone had built a very good squad. It is not a surprise that this happened. The Spanish coach has established a very good relationship with Atletico Madrid. They are able to fully reflect their tactics on the field this year. This was also effective in their victory against Barcelona.
Thus time, Atletico Madrid really can silence its haters and break the pessimism of its fans, because in the end, for now, they can lead the standings. And the plus point is, La Liga is getting more interesting and challenging again, not only between Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​but also Atletico Madrid. Now, the three will compete with increasingly tight and challenging. Nothing is impossible, we will never know what will happen in the future, it could still be Atletico Madrid, or there will be another change for the club that is in the next top standing.

And because of that, Simeone really deserves to be the coach of the month in La Liga this time.

Source: Congratulations, @Simeone
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Mbappe came back today and scored Real Madrid's first goal against Sevilla and it was one of the old Mbappe goals, it was really good and it fit right in. It was Jesus Navas' last match, we will not forget him in this match. In general, Real Madrid's game flow was very good, the players implemented what Ancelotti wanted in the game plan well in this match and the victory was won.

Sevilla was also in the match, they scored two goals anyway, but they didn't have much to do against Real Madrid, at least they tried to respond well.
Mbappe has slowly found his best form by helping the team win and in today's match he again opened the lead for Real Madrid with a quick goal that he managed to score. With that, Real Madrid's performance has returned to a positive pace where they have managed to overtake Barcelona and are now in second place with a difference of 1 point with Atletico Madrid who are leading the standings.
Killyan Mbappe has taken a U-turn and made his worst performance into good. Against Sevilla he did his job very clinically and scored a very great goal and also provided an assist to Brahim Diaz. No doubt he is probably the hero of the night due to assisting such a special performance status. Killyan Mbappe is such a wonderful player his quality is so good especially in the goal scoring ability. From the starting of the season Killyan Mbappe have not been able to perform brilliantly but finally he brought up again his true form. Killian Mbappe needs more time as he is very special and trying to understand the chemistry with the players. If somehow the players understand his ability and provide him good passes, then surely they can make the feel of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid.
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So, Barcelona have been dropped to third place and it's time to check title odds:

Real Madrid - 1.91

Barcelona Fc - 3.00

Atlético Madrid - 4.50

A bit paradoxical, right? Granted, I can understand why Real is higher than Atletico, but why is Barcelona higher than Atletico? After all, the facts show that Barcelona is more susceptible to a decline in results (despite any quality of play).
Sure enough, the order of the championship chances is very much the opposite of the current standings. Maybe the order is arranged based on squad depth, and we realize that it is temporary. Barcelona, ​​who dropped to third place in the standings, still has the opportunity to overtake Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid in the second half of the season.
However, for now, Diego Simeone and his team deserve praise for the hard work they have shown, it seems that this season they do not want to be underestimated as title contenders. With a narrow point difference, everything can change quickly. This season competition seems tighter than last season, but we no longer see Girona creating a sensation in the top four of the standings.
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This was just spot on.... Hey yunno what a surprise is? Experiencing the same pattern of goal twice, just 10 minutes apart, in one match by two different top-notch players.... I thought I saw it all, not until valverdes decided to shoot at the left pocket from that distance.. what a great great timely strike it was!!!
Looks like the Madrid team is fully back in fine form as they demoted Barcelona on the league table. I'd love to see alot of wonderful performances like this.
Do we have to talk about the defense? I'd say it was a mess.. Sevilla never had a good control of the ball and they weren't rightfully supposed to score a goal, but the competition's defense strategy was weak that a striker pulled up with that header in-between two defenders, in their 18.
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I also don't feel there is anything different with Real Madrid's strategy. They are still playing with their usual strategy, but what's different now is that they seem to have improved their performance. Mbappe also seems to be getting used to it, which is why he has been scoring more goals lately. Real Madrid really have to be able to take advantage of every opportunity they have because this season looks like it's going to be very tough.
What Mbappe has shown in recent matches has shown that his adaptation period at Real Madrid is over, he once again proved his ability after leading Real Madrid to a convincing victory over Sevilla. Real Madrid's performance is now much better than before, they are more dominant in creating chances and the strikers are starting to take advantage of the opportunities well. This kind of performance is always expected, even though they are currently in second place, but the opportunity to reach the top of the standings is very open because they are only one point behind Atletico who are currently in first place.
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Honestly not a deserved defeat for Barcelona and the first home defeat to Atletico in 17 years.

The last match before the holiday was almost 2 weeks more because of the new year.  Only on January 4 Real Madrid will face Valencia, the other will start on January 11. The result of Barcelona's loss against Atletico may have been predicted by many and the result was correct. This condition worsens Barcelona's condition in La Liga. Although the current condition is still quite a lot of matches to be played and there will still be many surprises to be made. Barcelona may be able to improve the situation with the transfer market. But I am also curious about their financial condition, if they don't have a lot of money, maybe it's useless they can only improve the internal condition of the team and wait for the rest of the injured players.
Let's say Madrid can get 3 points early in the year from Valencia but Atletico still has one game left which means Atletico Madrid chances are still high to take the top of the standings. Osasuna may not be the favorite but sometimes Atletico Madrid have problems when playing against weaker teams. The rhythm of the game will follow their opponents and Simeone needs to prepare for this very carefully if he wants to stay at the top of the standings.
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Barcelona lost at the wrong time and missed the opportunity to go to the holidays holding on to first place, now they have moved to third place and most likely Atletico and Real will be able to increase their gap with Barcelona even more. For Flick, nothing is over yet, yes, it is difficult to realize that Barcelona had such an impressive advantage, and now can be behind Real by 5 points, in such a short time, but no one said that it would be easy to play against Real.
Going for the holidays at the top position on the table is supposed to be a very big one to actually pride in but Barcelona is going to miss that and they need to two wins to make up for that to be at the top again while going for the holidays but they have one more game before the Holidays, Madrid have been able to go closer than they were at the top of the table as they are now at the second position with two points away from the team the top of the table so they can still get to the top if they win their next game and the top team loses their next game.
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Patience and hard work are the keys to success.
Barcelona lost at the wrong time and missed the opportunity to go to the holidays holding on to first place, now they have moved to third place and most likely Atletico and Real will be able to increase their gap with Barcelona even more. For Flick, nothing is over yet, yes, it is difficult to realize that Barcelona had such an impressive advantage, and now can be behind Real by 5 points, in such a short time, but no one said that it would be easy to play against Real.
After a great start, Barcelona has fallen behind a lot. The loss to Atletico Madrid and the big change in their position after the loss was almost predictable for many and their prediction was correct. They lost the match at the wrong time and the match against Atletico looks like a nightmare. Despite raising the possibility of winning, they had to lose the match due to lack of finishing.

We may be getting a bigger gap between Barcelona and Real Madrid. The gap with Real Madrid, who are currently in 2nd position, is 1 and the gap with Atletico Madrid, who are in 1st position, is 2. Since Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid have played 1 match less than Barcelona, ​​in this case we may see a gap of 5 and 6 points in the same number of matches, which makes it difficult for Barcelona to regain the top spot. However, Barcelona still has several matches to turn around. Barcelona's consistency could be their main weapon.
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