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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 22, 2023, 03:39:56 PM

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

btw, match statistics show betis only made 0 'shots on target while sevilla managed to make 4 'shots on target' it seems that betis was really lucky today

There is something strange about Real Betis; their game when on the field is not as usual; it is impossible for Real Betis not to shoot at goal at all, and this is like Real Betis deliberately not giving a fight to Sevilla. If only Real Betis gave a fight to Sevilla, then chances are they will get a goal and win in this match.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 22, 2023, 03:39:56 PM

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

This makes sense, especially against Sevilla is Real Betis who has more strength. And a draw could be the best result for Sevilla, compared to losing. Even though actually Sebilla had enough chance to beat Betis, we also know that Betis' defense at that time was quite good. But unfortunately, in the next match, Sevilla still have to face some strong teams like Real Madrid and Sociedad, so this might be difficult for them.

I don't think if La Liga is really important for Sevilla because there is nothing to achieve in La Liga for them and there is no need for Sevilla to focus on the league because there is not any difference for them if they lose or win the game against Real Betis, the most important for Seviola is to focus on the Europa league.

For now they can't do anything in LaLiga but in this case they still have to keep trying as much as possible because if at worst they fail to make it to the Europa League final they can still be in the Conference if they keep doing positive results in La Liga.
Of course the Europa League is the main focus but with 2 games remaining in La Liga and of course the first opponent is Elche it will be great if they can still get 3 points.

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sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

This makes sense, especially against Sevilla is Real Betis who has more strength. And a draw could be the best result for Sevilla, compared to losing. Even though actually Sebilla had enough chance to beat Betis, we also know that Betis' defense at that time was quite good. But unfortunately, in the next match, Sevilla still have to face some strong teams like Real Madrid and Sociedad, so this might be difficult for them.

I don't think if La Liga is really important for Sevilla because there is nothing to achieve in La Liga for them and there is no need for Sevilla to focus on the league because there is not any difference for them if they lose or win the game against Real Betis, the most important for Seviola is to focus on the Europa league.

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Quote from: Maidak on May 22, 2023, 04:44:14 PM

Sevilla had so many chances in that match against Real Betis that it is generally hard to believe that this match ended in a draw. And of course, the goalkeeper of Real Betis performed really well in this match. He was on top of his game and stopped almost anything and everything Sevilla shot toward him. The defense from Betis was actually unbreakable by their opponent. They had made one or two mistakes here and there but they were actually lucky that the finishing of Sevilla was not on point.

Valencia is currently performing well. The performance seems to be improving. Right now they are absolutely clear from the relegation zone after 2 back to back wins

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One lucky thing for calf in this match because they were able to prevent some of the golden opportunities that sevilla had. even one red card had to be received by Real Betis players in this match which made the match situation in the final minutes quite tense but in the end they had to share points in today's match.

I think Sevilla have tried their best but the difficulty in scoring goals is something that I regret enough in this match. Sevilla still have hope of appearing in the Champions League next season because of this opportunity they had in the Europa League final against Roma. But their main target is still aiming for 7th place in the remaining matches of the season.

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Such a disgusting fare of events that has happened at Valencia. Real Madrid could have walked away and I would have supported them as well.

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Just look at this and you will see that it wasn't the first time and it wasn't the only team neither and I agree that something should be done. I really hope that until this gets fixed, all the players from other nations or at least black players all leave all together so that La Liga would realize they can't just be purely white and exclude all other races and be this good. Now I am feeling both sad but also quite happy that Madrid lost because I wouldn't want la liga to think they could keep doing this. The team that won it 4 times in like 5-6 seasons to bring La Liga and in return all the other teams in there this much more money thanks to tv rights going higher, ended up getting this return? I feel like they should he ashamed but we all know nobody who calls another person monkey just because they are black would ever feel shame, they are fully morons.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 22, 2023, 03:39:56 PM

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3
btw, match statistics show betis only made 0 'shots on target while sevilla managed to make 4 'shots on target' it seems that betis was really lucky today

Sevilla really struggled to get full points in this match because Real Betis appeared quite impressive in defense, making it difficult for Sevilla players to play more aggressively in building attacks. Well, there were some good opportunities that Sevilla had but they couldn't capitalize on those opportunities to score. This week Sevilla is still stuck in 9th place by collecting 48 points and is 2 points adrift of Bilbao which is in 7th place as a place for participants in the European conference League Qualification. With 3 more matches left I think Sevilla will be able to reach 7th place if they are consistent in the upcoming matches.
Btw I'm more interested in Valencia because their performance has improved lately, Even though a few weeks earlier they were in the relegation zone but they managed to get out and for now Valencia is ranked 13th which I think they are safe enough, they just need to maintain winning trend in the remaining 3 matches. Besides that Valladolid is a team that has underperformed in the last 5 matches which has kept them in the relegation zone.

Sevilla had so many chances in that match against Real Betis that it is generally hard to believe that this match ended in a draw. And of course, the goalkeeper of Real Betis performed really well in this match. He was on top of his game and stopped almost anything and everything Sevilla shot toward him. The defense from Betis was actually unbreakable by their opponent. They had made one or two mistakes here and there but they were actually lucky that the finishing of Sevilla was not on point.

Valencia is currently performing well. The performance seems to be improving. Right now they are absolutely clear from the relegation zone after 2 back to back wins

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 22, 2023, 03:39:56 PM

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

This makes sense, especially against Sevilla is Real Betis who has more strength. And a draw could be the best result for Sevilla, compared to losing. Even though actually Sebilla had enough chance to beat Betis, we also know that Betis' defense at that time was quite good. But unfortunately, in the next match, Sevilla still have to face some strong teams like Real Madrid and Sociedad, so this might be difficult for them.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on May 22, 2023, 03:39:56 PM

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

btw, match statistics show betis only made 0 'shots on target while sevilla managed to make 4 'shots on target' it seems that betis was really lucky today

Sevilla really struggled to get full points in this match because Real Betis appeared quite impressive in defense, making it difficult for Sevilla players to play more aggressively in building attacks. Well, there were some good opportunities that Sevilla had but they couldn't capitalize on those opportunities to score. This week Sevilla is still stuck in 9th place by collecting 48 points and is 2 points adrift of Bilbao which is in 7th place as a place for participants in the European conference League Qualification. With 3 more matches left I think Sevilla will be able to reach 7th place if they are consistent in the upcoming matches.

Btw I'm more interested in Valencia because their performance has improved lately, Even though a few weeks earlier they were in the relegation zone but they managed to get out and for now Valencia is ranked 13th which I think they are safe enough, they just need to maintain winning trend in the remaining 3 matches. Besides that Valladolid is a team that has underperformed in the last 5 matches which has kept them in the relegation zone.

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With the draw in the match between Sevilla against Betis with a score of 0-0, maybe I would say that Betis is still too strong in defense so that Sevilla failed to win three points in this match. Because in reality, Sevilla completely dominated this match and in fact, Betis had absolutely no shots on target and that means, Betis only focused on defending.

I'm not at all surprised by Sevilla's result. I would say this was the result I expected. It was not Sevilla's goal to do well in La Liga this season. Sevilla's performance in La Liga has been poor since the start of the season. Their main goal was the Europa League title. And Sevilla has been able to perform well in every Europa League match. Both teams were aiming for a draw in the match between Betis and Sevilla. Both Sevilla and Betis played completely defensively. While Sevilla's players could make 10 shots, Real Betis' players made only 5 shots. Both teams are happy to share the points.

sevilla failed to take advantage of a good opportunity to shift girona and athletics in the standings but calf is a formidable opponent and they even had a few weeks in the top 3

btw, match statistics show betis only made 0 'shots on target while sevilla managed to make 4 'shots on target' it seems that betis was really lucky today

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What a hard week for Real Madrid has they lost to city in the UCL semifinals and now Valencia is leading them with a goal in the ongoing match. Valencia dominated the match and breaking through Madrid midfield and defence. It is clear that Madrid has lost form this week and are finding it difficult to equalise the goal. Valencia is total in possession of thus match and they are playing with a high defence. Real Madrid have lost out totally this season because they lost out from the important leagues. A fine performance from Valencia,Courtois made a super save on the last minutes of the match which would have been a goal. Diego scored with a superb finishing after he got an assist from Kluivert. I hope Madrid will do better in the second half.

Valencia was perfect defensively and although Real Madrid managed to control 73% of possession they missed a scoring opportunity and in that game Real Madrid also lost in terms of shots on target. This shows that Real Madrid has been under pressure since losing to Manchester City in the Champions League. The bookmaker's analysis that gives Sevilla a greater chance of winning is spot on and it is evident how Real Madrid struggles so much to score.
At first I thought that the inclusion of Rodrygo who replaced Camavinga would make Real Madrid more coordinated in attack, but because Valencia's defense was so good it made it difficult for Benzema to score goals. The defeat received by Real Madrid in that match made their position in the second standings taken over by Atletico Madrid and this shows that Real Madrid must make improvements next season.

I can see, in the match against Valencia, Real Madrid had most of the possession of the ball. But they actually could not do anything with that. Real Madrid did try really hard to do something. But they actually could not penetrate the defense of Valencia. And now it looks like they are not going to be able to finish in the second position of the table. This loss just makes the season of Real Madrid a little worse, to be honest.

I thought Real Madrid will be able to finish in the second position. I know it is probably not much but it would have looked a little different.

Real Madrid lost their place in the second place of the table for another time, during the game against Valencia, Real Madrid had much more control over the game and they had much more goal opportunities and I think the reason for Real Madrid lost this game was that they couldn't use the chances they had during the game.

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Quote from: Tony116 on May 22, 2023, 02:36:19 PM

I can see, in the match against Valencia, Real Madrid had most of the possession of the ball. But they actually could not do anything with that. Real Madrid did try really hard to do something. But they actually could not penetrate the defense of Valencia. And now it looks like they are not going to be able to finish in the second position of the table. This loss just makes the season of Real Madrid a little worse, to be honest.

I thought Real Madrid will be able to finish in the second position. I know it is probably not much but it would have looked a little different.

even other strong teams in other leagues (such as bayern, juventus, liverpool and others) are experiencing bitter things this season so there is nothing wrong with what madrid has done, they have fought hard but in reality they have to be willing to be in 3rd position for this season. if in the transfer market later madrid succeeds in buying the right striker then their performance will improve again and we will again see madrid as king in europe.

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I am not entirely sure about these racism talks in la liga. Since I am not Spanish, I wasn't really paying attention to what happened and I just learned it from the news but it feels like such an easy fix, and yet there are no fixes? Is that it? Like people can call out racist stuff like monkey to Vini jr., and then the league decides not to do anything about it?

I understand freedom of speech is a thing and that is why people could do anything they want and say anything they want unless they physically hurt someone, and they did not "physically" hurt vini, which means it was under the rule of freedom of speech. But are they not aware that what they are saying is horrible? Like are they saying "it is within my rights to call a black person monkey", is that their defense? It makes sense to them? Really?

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What a hard week for Real Madrid has they lost to city in the UCL semifinals and now Valencia is leading them with a goal in the ongoing match. Valencia dominated the match and breaking through Madrid midfield and defence. It is clear that Madrid has lost form this week and are finding it difficult to equalise the goal. Valencia is total in possession of thus match and they are playing with a high defence. Real Madrid have lost out totally this season because they lost out from the important leagues. A fine performance from Valencia,Courtois made a super save on the last minutes of the match which would have been a goal. Diego scored with a superb finishing after he got an assist from Kluivert. I hope Madrid will do better in the second half.

Valencia was perfect defensively and although Real Madrid managed to control 73% of possession they missed a scoring opportunity and in that game Real Madrid also lost in terms of shots on target. This shows that Real Madrid has been under pressure since losing to Manchester City in the Champions League. The bookmaker's analysis that gives Sevilla a greater chance of winning is spot on and it is evident how Real Madrid struggles so much to score.
At first I thought that the inclusion of Rodrygo who replaced Camavinga would make Real Madrid more coordinated in attack, but because Valencia's defense was so good it made it difficult for Benzema to score goals. The defeat received by Real Madrid in that match made their position in the second standings taken over by Atletico Madrid and this shows that Real Madrid must make improvements next season.

I can see, in the match against Valencia, Real Madrid had most of the possession of the ball. But they actually could not do anything with that. Real Madrid did try really hard to do something. But they actually could not penetrate the defense of Valencia. And now it looks like they are not going to be able to finish in the second position of the table. This loss just makes the season of Real Madrid a little worse, to be honest.

I thought Real Madrid will be able to finish in the second position. I know it is probably not much but it would have looked a little different.

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Quote from: hahay on May 22, 2023, 11:57:16 AM

With the draw in the match between Sevilla against Betis with a score of 0-0, maybe I would say that Betis is still too strong in defense so that Sevilla failed to win three points in this match. Because in reality, Sevilla completely dominated this match and in fact, Betis had absolutely no shots on target and that means, Betis only focused on defending.

I'm not at all surprised by Sevilla's result. I would say this was the result I expected. It was not Sevilla's goal to do well in La Liga this season. Sevilla's performance in La Liga has been poor since the start of the season. Their main goal was the Europa League title. And Sevilla has been able to perform well in every Europa League match. Both teams were aiming for a draw in the match between Betis and Sevilla. Both Sevilla and Betis played completely defensively. While Sevilla's players could make 10 shots, Real Betis' players made only 5 shots. Both teams are happy to share the points.

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Quote from: bbigtart on May 22, 2023, 01:50:30 PM

I think it's not because Real MAdrid underestimates La Liga or the UCL league too much, but because Real Madrid really can't compete this season with the existing squad. We have to admit that the Real Madrid squad this season has a lot to fix, this was proven during the Man City match in the semifinals. How can Real Madrid play without doing anything in the first half and in the second half instead of scoring a goal, Real Madrid conceded a 4-0 goal, not to mention losing to Velencia in the league, is proof that the Madrid squad this season is very bad.

This season should have been a hard slap to Real Madrid's management that the Real Madrid squad is bad if Vini, Benzema, Modric and Kross are not on fire, they will definitely lose. and now just looking at the Real Madrid bench is very sad especially the attacking players. Come on Real Madrid must buy more players for next season.

I don't think they've underestimated Laliga this season because obviously they haven't been very strong this season because Real Madrid have lost some easy moments to get points but they haven't been able to capitalize on them well enough.

Besides that in the Champions League I think Real Madrid has one big weakness in the semifinals because They were able to play well in the first leg but in the second leg they were really inconsistent which made them lose their best form in balancing the game from the opponent. apart from that we all admit that manchester city is stronger than them this season.

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Quote from: Ratash on May 22, 2023, 10:58:00 AM

Great performance and important win for valencia team yesterday against real madrid, that was their second win in a row and they are surely safe from relegation now, on the other hand real madrid did not perform well offensively they wasted many opportunities plus it seems that the current midfielders level is far below that of kroos and modric things are not looking good for real madrid the only title they won this season is copa del rey which is a weak result for a team like real madrid.

Statistically and technically, Madrid is still much better than Valencia. but unfortunately, Madrid was unable to win this fight. IMO, it looks like Don Carlo doesn't really care about the result of this match anyway it won't change anything for them. that's why some players are rotated, maybe Ancelotti is deliberately giving playing time to the other players. especially for midfield players like Camavinga who returned to his original position, Tchouameni who in recent times has not had enough minutes to play especially as the main starter, plus Dani Caballos. for right-back filled by Lucas Vazquez. for RW, filled in by Asensio.

It would be very natural considering the result, because Madrid did not play the full squad. although Don Carlo made a substitution in the second half, unfortunately it didn't turn into an advantage for them. well, Madrid still has 2 matches left, don't be surprised if Don Carlo will still rotate his players. well speaking of trophies, at least they got the Coppa del Rey rather than nothing. next season, Madrid will rearrange their strength.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on May 22, 2023, 01:37:08 PM

I think if Real Madrid applied pressure from the beginning in La Liga as well as Champions League and played every match responsibly then they could have done well in La Liga. But the team took La Liga lightly and lost both the league titles.

I think it's not because Real MAdrid underestimates La Liga or the UCL league too much, but because Real Madrid really can't compete this season with the existing squad. We have to admit that the Real Madrid squad this season has a lot to fix, this was proven during the Man City match in the semifinals. How can Real Madrid play without doing anything in the first half and in the second half instead of scoring a goal, Real Madrid conceded a 4-0 goal, not to mention losing to Velencia in the league, is proof that the Madrid squad this season is very bad.

This season should have been a hard slap to Real Madrid's management that the Real Madrid squad is bad if Vini, Benzema, Modric and Kross are not on fire, they will definitely lose. and now just looking at the Real Madrid bench is very sad especially the attacking players. Come on Real Madrid must buy more players for next season.

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It was an important win to take for Valencia above all else. Because they were quite close to the relegation field and they needed to find a way to get away from there. Real Madrid didn't have any big target to achieve in the league so I'm not very surprised with this result. But of course one can say that Real Madrid could still have won this match while they were controlling the ball mostly. But having a big percentage of ball possession isn't always enough to win a match in football. This was a solid example for that.

Since the defeat to Man city Real Madrid has gotten worse, the loss to Velencia has made Real Madrid drop to third in the league standings, one point away from Atcletico Madrid, who is in second place. For Valencia itself, this victory kept them safe from the relegation zone, overall the game was very tight, but the Velencia goalkeeper played really great in that match.

Velencia scored in the 33rd minute, Jose Gaya got the ball on the left and he played Justin Kluivert in the box. He passed a real madrid defender before crossing for Diego Lopez, he just effortlessly kicked the ball from close range. Valencia is a great club and has a long history in the league and does not deserve relegation.

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Besides we watched two different halves as well. In the first half despite the ball possession rates Valencia had many more goal attempts and this helped them score. Real Madrid took full control in the match in the second half but it didn't change anything. This wa a horrible match for especially Vinicius Junior and that red card was a bad ending.

I don't understand why the referee gave a red card to Vini like that guy really choked him and that's why he slapped him, he won't die when Vini slapped him but Vini can die if he chokes him. Vini has never been triggered by emotions like this when playing in a big European match (UCL). I think LA LIGA needs to take strong action against racists. Because in La Liga, it's not just black wine.

I think if Real Madrid applied pressure from the beginning in La Liga as well as Champions League and played every match responsibly then they could have done well in La Liga. But the team took La Liga lightly and lost both the league titles.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on May 22, 2023, 06:29:35 AM

It was an important win to take for Valencia above all else. Because they were quite close to the relegation field and they needed to find a way to get away from there. Real Madrid didn't have any big target to achieve in the league so I'm not very surprised with this result. But of course one can say that Real Madrid could still have won this match while they were controlling the ball mostly. But having a big percentage of ball possession isn't always enough to win a match in football. This was a solid example for that.

Since the defeat to Man city Real Madrid has gotten worse, the loss to Velencia has made Real Madrid drop to third in the league standings, one point away from Atcletico Madrid, who is in second place. For Valencia itself, this victory kept them safe from the relegation zone, overall the game was very tight, but the Velencia goalkeeper played really great in that match.

Velencia scored in the 33rd minute, Jose Gaya got the ball on the left and he played Justin Kluivert in the box. He passed a real madrid defender before crossing for Diego Lopez, he just effortlessly kicked the ball from close range. Valencia is a great club and has a long history in the league and does not deserve relegation.

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Besides we watched two different halves as well. In the first half despite the ball possession rates Valencia had many more goal attempts and this helped them score. Real Madrid took full control in the match in the second half but it didn't change anything. This wa a horrible match for especially Vinicius Junior and that red card was a bad ending.

I don't understand why the referee gave a red card to Vini like that guy really choked him and that's why he slapped him, he won't die when Vini slapped him but Vini can die if he chokes him. Vini has never been triggered by emotions like this when playing in a big European match (UCL). I think LA LIGA needs to take strong action against racists. Because in La Liga, it's not just black wine.

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Quote from: Merit.s on May 21, 2023, 12:25:11 PM

What a hard week for Real Madrid has they lost to city in the UCL semifinals and now Valencia is leading them with a goal in the ongoing match. Valencia dominated the match and breaking through Madrid midfield and defence. It is clear that Madrid has lost form this week and are finding it difficult to equalise the goal. Valencia is total in possession of thus match and they are playing with a high defence. Real Madrid have lost out totally this season because they lost out from the important leagues. A fine performance from Valencia,Courtois made a super save on the last minutes of the match which would have been a goal. Diego scored with a superb finishing after he got an assist from Kluivert. I hope Madrid will do better in the second half.

Valencia was perfect defensively and although Real Madrid managed to control 73% of possession they missed a scoring opportunity and in that game Real Madrid also lost in terms of shots on target. This shows that Real Madrid has been under pressure since losing to Manchester City in the Champions League. The bookmaker's analysis that gives Sevilla a greater chance of winning is spot on and it is evident how Real Madrid struggles so much to score.

At first I thought that the inclusion of Rodrygo who replaced Camavinga would make Real Madrid more coordinated in attack, but because Valencia's defense was so good it made it difficult for Benzema to score goals. The defeat received by Real Madrid in that match made their position in the second standings taken over by Atletico Madrid and this shows that Real Madrid must make improvements next season.

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