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Quote from: TopT3ns on May 05, 2023, 06:39:40 PM

Robert Lewandowski, who is at Bayern Munich, and Robert Lewandowski, who is currently at Barcelona, are of course very different. The condition of the existing team also has an important influence on the performance of Robert Lewandowski.

Lewandowski was younger when he played for Bayern Munich that were a stronger team than Barcelona now too. At Bayern Munich, Lewandowski got more support from his stronger team-mates and in general he got benefit from their supports.

At Barcelona, he is facing with more pressure and expectation from the club that he can help them to win matches, take titles but he gets less helpful support from his team-mates in Barcelona.

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The team from Barcelona may still lack the ability to collaborate as a team, so Robert Lewandowski doesn't have the chance to score as many goals as he did at Bayern Munich. At least when Robert Lewandowski was at Barcelona, they didn't slump and were still in first place at the top of the standings.

When you are older, you will have less capability to play as a god player who can decide many matches with your own shows. You will have to play more humble as your body is no longer allows you to do everything lonely with good result.

So far Lewandowski did not play too bad in Barcelona but he is no longer a dominating striker like two or three years ago especially in a season he won Champions League with Bayern Munich during the pandemic in mostly emptied stadiums. He lost his Ballon d'Or because it was canceled in that year. He will still have a successful season with his new club if he wins La Liga and Pinicchi but I believe that both Lewandowski and Barcelona expected better results in Champions League.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on May 05, 2023, 07:20:02 PM

Barcelona are on a different level this season after struggling with the sanctions, restrictions and even losing some of their key players to lessen the weight of bearing huge wages. Xavi's employment has obviously turned things around for better, already they are in pole position to win the league trophy this season ahead of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid who have failed to match their strength this season.

At the start it felt like Xavi wasn't doing a good job but still the club supported him
They will face one of the their fiercest sides when it comes to the league in Spain
Espanyol are also good counter attacking side and also Barcelona neighbors
Barcelona will win the league is they get to win but the game will be difficult

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Barcelona are still 11 points ahead of Real Madrid despite a 0-0 draw in both matches. barcelona played very well early in the game to have a high point and no team is able to surpass that point. Barcelona has a high chance of winning tomorrow's match as well as winning La Liga championship. And Barcelona are still playing very relaxed. and they are not putting any extra pressure on the game as they still have a high point lead

Barcelona in La Liga is indeed very good compared to Real Madrid.
But make no mistake if Real Madrid in La Liga is deliberately not too focused on catching Barcelona points but focusing on the champions league which has been Real Madrid's initial target.
I think Real Madrid in this La Liga to drop any points they will not consider it a problem they think to be champions in the champions league.

I absolutely think all that you said, for me Madrid doesn't care much about the League anymore, for them it is essential to win the UCL, and the road is almost completely covered in a good way, the work they have done is impeccable, now well If we think about it, it is important for Barcelona to win the League so that they can win something this year, a worthy championship because they got rid of everyone, they did a very bad job, Madrid is at least reaching the end of the UCL and That is already something very big, not every team gets there, in case it wins it would Silence many mouths.

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Luka Modric has been a key player for Real Madrid for over a decade now. The Croatian is one of the best midfielders the game has ever seen and he continues to perform at a very high level, even at 37 years of age. One of his greatest traits is his ability to rise to the occasion and perform in the biggest games, when the pressure is highest.

As a result, Modric’s recent injury will have come as bad news for Real Madrid. Especially with the club having some huge matches coming up.

Real Madrid are a week away from the Copa del Rey final against Osasuna. And in the game after that, they will be taking on Manchester City at Santiago Bernabeu in first leg of the semi-final of the UEFA Champions League.

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Barcelona are on a different level this season after struggling with the sanctions, restrictions and even losing some of their key players to lessen the weight of bearing huge wages. Xavi's employment has obviously turned things around for better, already they are in pole position to win the league trophy this season ahead of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid who have failed to match their strength this season.

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Quote from: arimamib on May 05, 2023, 05:03:28 PM

But I still have faith that Real Madrid will be able to overcome their unbalanced performance in the upcoming matches.
Apart from that, their main focus is indeed the UCL and Manchester City which are frightening shadows. Instead of this happening, it is more chaotic, Real Madrid must first come back to winning ways when they face Osasuna in tomorrow's match which will be the final for them in the Copa del Rey.

Besides that, Atletico Madrid seems stronger, they have found the best form, but it's a bit late, but they are very safe and have qualified for the UCL next season.

Another problem occurs when some players who are core players cannot play because if they are at full strength I think this kind of thing can still be minimized.
The absence of several core players, especially for Benzema, who is indeed very difficult to overcome his current fitness, has made their problems more protracted and the longer things like this are felt.

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Quote from: DanWalker on May 05, 2023, 02:40:45 PM

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

Robert Lewandowski, who is at Bayern Munich, and Robert Lewandowski, who is currently at Barcelona, are of course very different. The condition of the existing team also has an important influence on the performance of Robert Lewandowski. The team from Barcelona may still lack the ability to collaborate as a team, so Robert Lewandowski doesn't have the chance to score as many goals as he did at Bayern Munich. At least when Robert Lewandowski was at Barcelona, they didn't slump and were still in first place at the top of the standings.

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Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

Well apart from all that, this is still the first season for him and there are still many opportunities especially we also can't expect too much with his age condition.
Now in his first season and competing to be the top scorer and bringing Barcelona back to the championship (despite Madrid's condition) I think it's been very good for Lewandowski.

Well he isnt the same goalscoring machine like in Bayern Munich,but we have to think that this is a different league where smaller amount of goals are scored. In Bayern they dominated the entire season always easily and thats why he scored so much,but in Spain its different but still high quality season for him

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Quote from: DanWalker on May 05, 2023, 02:40:45 PM

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

Well apart from all that, this is still the first season for him and there are still many opportunities especially we also can't expect too much with his age condition.
Now in his first season and competing to be the top scorer and bringing Barcelona back to the championship (despite Madrid's condition) I think it's been very good for Lewandowski.

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Quote from: nurilham on May 05, 2023, 04:53:14 PM

Quote from: baeva on May 05, 2023, 03:59:06 PM

Look at it this way. In Germany, the championship is not as rich as in Spain, obviously, scoring here as in Bayern will not work, so his number of goals in La Liga should not be compared with the Bundesliga. Age is of secondary importance here, it certainly affects him, but I think it does not and will not hinder him for two years yet.

It is true. La Liga competition is simply more competitive than Bundesliga. There are more strong teams in La Liga, Lewandowski can't easily score as in Bundesliga. Age, teammates, and tactics also have big impacts on Lewandowski's performance. These are basic factors that directly bring serious effects on Lewandowski. So, we can't compare his goals during in Bundesliga and in La Liga.

I think the only reason that will justify Lewandowski, not being able to score good amount of goals as he does when he was playing in the German Bundesliga, is because of age. Anything more or less than age, I will not agree with you. You cannot say that Spanish league is more competitive than German Bundesliga and that is why Lewandowski is not scoring more goals.
That was how were deceiving ourselves that English Premier League is tough, then Haalandcame and proved everybody wrong. If you can't do it in one League, you can do it in other leagues. After all, Ronaldo is a living example.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 05, 2023, 04:49:18 PM

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I think real madrid will be able to reclaim second place from Atletico madrid in the coming weeks because they chose a fairly close gap. This naturally happens in a team's body when they lose concentration in the match they are playing. Not too ashamed of this, surely Real Madrid can make a comeback to win.

Hopefully, but they also have several big matches against quite big clubs. So in this case, RealMadrid must do a much better performance to be able to take over the position. Once Atletico Madrid makes a mistake of loss and Real Madrid wins a victory at the same time, the position will be changing. But if this is the opposite, the chance of Real Madrid taking over will be quite difficult.

Now Real Madrid must focus on the final of the Copa, so they can hold one trophy, at least. This will be not very difficult, it should be Because the opponent is Osasuna. Sometimes, Osasuna is able to play very aggressively and effectively, but Real Madrid must be able to handle them.

before that we have to see the results they will get in the next match, if ancelotti is able to bring benzema et al to victory in the upcoming match then their chances of continuing the winning trend will be easier, but if they fail to focus again in the upcoming match I think it will be difficult for them to took over second place from athletico madrid.

But I still have faith that Real Madrid will be able to overcome their unbalanced performance in the upcoming matches.
Apart from that, their main focus is indeed the UCL and Manchester City which are frightening shadows. Instead of this happening, it is more chaotic, Real Madrid must first come back to winning ways when they face Osasuna in tomorrow's match which will be the final for them in the Copa del Rey.

Besides that, Atletico Madrid seems stronger, they have found the best form, but it's a bit late, but they are very safe and have qualified for the UCL next season.

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Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to immediately ensure the La Liga title. But even though the Blaugrana are the favorites to win I hope Xavi will continue to play full strength in this match, especially for Lewandowski he has to add to his goal treasury because to be able to get away from Benzema's pursuit. For Lewandowski it will be very special if he is able to win the top scorer title and win La Liga in his first season with Barcelona.

Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to lock in the Laliga title this season. Barcelona have a chance to win the La Liga title against Espanyol and their victory in this match will confirm them as champions without having to depend on the results of rival teams. Even though Espanyol are currently in a low position in the table, they are still a tough team and can provide a tough match for Barcelona. Therefore, Barcelona must play seriously and focus on winning the match.
Yes, Robert Lewandowski is absolutely right, he has another important mission apart from helping Barcelona win the La Liga title this season, namely to become the top scorer in La Liga. However, individual achievements must not trump the team's bigger goal, which is winning the La Liga title. Therefore, Lewandowski and the entire Barcelona team must play well and support each other to achieve their main goal.

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

Bayern Munich was more stable than the current Barcelona so you should not bring up such comparisons
Bayern Munich had it all and they played all to Lewandoski to score goals
In the Spanish League he is a good player and will never struggle in this league

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Quote from: baeva on May 05, 2023, 03:59:06 PM

Look at it this way. In Germany, the championship is not as rich as in Spain, obviously, scoring here as in Bayern will not work, so his number of goals in La Liga should not be compared with the Bundesliga. Age is of secondary importance here, it certainly affects him, but I think it does not and will not hinder him for two years yet.

It is true. La Liga competition is simply more competitive than Bundesliga. There are more strong teams in La Liga, Lewandowski can't easily score as in Bundesliga. Age, teammates, and tactics also have big impacts on Lewandowski's performance. These are basic factors that directly bring serious effects on Lewandowski. So, we can't compare his goals during in Bundesliga and in La Liga.

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Quote from: arimamib on May 03, 2023, 05:46:38 PM

I think real madrid will be able to reclaim second place from Atletico madrid in the coming weeks because they chose a fairly close gap. This naturally happens in a team's body when they lose concentration in the match they are playing. Not too ashamed of this, surely Real Madrid can make a comeback to win.

Hopefully, but they also have several big matches against quite big clubs. So in this case, RealMadrid must do a much better performance to be able to take over the position. Once Atletico Madrid makes a mistake of loss and Real Madrid wins a victory at the same time, the position will be changing. But if this is the opposite, the chance of Real Madrid taking over will be quite difficult.

Now Real Madrid must focus on the final of the Copa, so they can hold one trophy, at least. This will be not very difficult, it should be Because the opponent is Osasuna. Sometimes, Osasuna is able to play very aggressively and effectively, but Real Madrid must be able to handle them.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 05, 2023, 03:46:10 PM

However, his contribution seems quite good although he may not perform in his best form.
We must understand if he can't perform as well as he performed in Bayern Munich previously, he is getting old and he played with a different tactic & with different players' characteristics. So, we can't expect he should perform as he ever did in Bayern Munich.

By the way, he may miss some easy chances. But it doesn't mean he played badly the whole season, he was probably unlucky to execute it. Don't judge his performance based on a few matches only!! Being the top scorer in La Liga, is proof that he still played well (as expected).

You are right, Lewandowski has made an extraordinary contribution in his first season with Barcelona this season. He came to Barcelona at the right time and has always been a mainstay for Xavi in every game. Lewandowski has recorded 19 goals and 6 assists so far, of course this is quite an impressive achievement considering his age and time with Barcelona which the new one 1 season.

Thus we have to look at his overall performance with Barcelona this season, indeed he failed to provide anything positive for Barcelona in the ucl and copa del rey but he was able to make a big contribution in laliga which is perfect enough in my opinion.

Barcelona will immediately lock the title in the upcoming match when they face Espanyol, Espanyol is not a strong team this season, I think barcelona can easily beat them and lock the title in this match.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on May 04, 2023, 05:35:38 PM

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Real Madrid is not in good condition they have lost twice in the last five matches. This shows that Real Madrid is going through something that is making their game performance decrease.

Yes, that's true, and not only that. In their previous matches, they also had several draw matches even against small clubs. When compared to Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid has lost the most between them, namely 7 defeats, while Barcelona has only lost 3 so far. For some reason, sometimes, Benzema's absence really had an impact on the results of the match at that time.

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what else can you do while in fact Real Madrid prefers to focus on the champions league to win the title in the champions league. but I have a thought even though Real Madrid is currently being replaced by Atletico Madrid at least Real Madrid will not follow Atletico Madrid's points without being far behind and giving Real Sociedad a distance until the final champions league match is over.
and for example the champions league is finished and can win the title, surely Real Madrid will chase Atletico Madrid points again if there is still time and opportunity.

Yes, fortunately their point gap is still 7 points so at least it's still a little safe. But later Real Madrid still have to fight several clubs which can be said to be quite troublesome at times, while they only have 5 matches remaining. Hopefully after that, Realmadrid can really play optimally.

Meanwhile in the UCL, Real Madrid's opponent will be Man City, who incidentally is currently very on fire, complete with a powerful squad, this will not be easy. They have to be even more optimal.
And right now they have to focus on the final match in the Copa del Rey tomorrow against Ossasuna. Real Madrid should be able to win against Ossasuna if they can really optimize and don't miss too many opportunities. At least they can secure 1 trophy first.

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Quote from: DanWalker on May 05, 2023, 02:40:45 PM

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on May 05, 2023, 12:00:05 PM

Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to immediately ensure the La Liga title. But even though the Blaugrana are the favorites to win I hope Xavi will continue to play full strength in this match, especially for Lewandowski he has to add to his goal treasury because to be able to get away from Benzema's pursuit. For Lewandowski it will be very special if he is able to win the top scorer title and win La Liga in his first season with Barcelona.

Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to lock in the Laliga title this season. Barcelona have a chance to win the La Liga title against Espanyol and their victory in this match will confirm them as champions without having to depend on the results of rival teams. Even though Espanyol are currently in a low position in the table, they are still a tough team and can provide a tough match for Barcelona. Therefore, Barcelona must play seriously and focus on winning the match.
Yes, Robert Lewandowski is absolutely right, he has another important mission apart from helping Barcelona win the La Liga title this season, namely to become the top scorer in La Liga. However, individual achievements must not trump the team's bigger goal, which is winning the La Liga title. Therefore, Lewandowski and the entire Barcelona team must play well and support each other to achieve their main goal.

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

Look at it this way. In Germany, the championship is not as rich as in Spain, obviously, scoring here as in Bayern will not work, so his number of goals in La Liga should not be compared with the Bundesliga. Age is of secondary importance here, it certainly affects him, but I think it does not and will not hinder him for two years yet.

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Quote from: DanWalker on May 05, 2023, 02:40:45 PM

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

However, his contribution seems quite good although he may not perform in his best form.
We must understand if he can't perform as well as he performed in Bayern Munich previously, he is getting old and he played with a different tactic & with different players' characteristics. So, we can't expect he should perform as he ever did in Bayern Munich.

By the way, he may miss some easy chances. But it doesn't mean he played badly the whole season, he was probably unlucky to execute it. Don't judge his performance based on a few matches only!! Being the top scorer in La Liga, is proof that he still played well (as expected).

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Sevilla managed a great comeback win against espanyol driving them into a tough spot espanyol team will likely be relegated next four games will be tough, sevilla on the otherhand their only chance of playing the champions league next season is to win the europa league since they are far away from any european spot in laliga.

As we can see, Guaye became the hero of Sevilla's victory after scoring the decisive goal in the 88th minute by taking advantage of Marcos Acuna's pass and three points in this home game brought Sevilla to 11th place with a collection of 44 points from 33 matches. While Espanyol have not managed to move from the relegation zone to be precise in 19th position. Luis Garcia's team has also collected 31 points from 33 matches for that Espanyol must be able to take advantage of the remaining matches remaining at the end of this season by getting out of the relegation zone.

We also know that Sevilla will play the first leg of the Europa League away to Juventus on Friday before visiting Valladolid on Sunday. Meanwhile, Espanyol will play a derby match against Barcelona. Of course, that meeting made it difficult for Espanyol to get out of the relegation zone but I hope they continue to have the confidence to get out of there.

I mean when you think about it, the difference between 7th, which is barely out of European cups, and Sevilla, is just 3 points. I am not saying that Sevilla will finish 7th, but there is still a chance for that to happen anyway. With 5 games left, even in a dreamy situation where they win all 5, they could still be not as high, but they could also be at the 5-6th positions as well, who knows, we can never really predict these things.

I am sensing that they will finish within top 10, that seems likely, just beat one more team and they would be at 10th instead of 11th. That is not a good result, but considering they were fighting off relegation up until just recently, I would guess that it is not going to be really that weird, it will probably be easy for them.

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Quote from: zuzie on May 05, 2023, 12:23:27 PM

The challenge is even more difficult than get a qualifying place in La Liga
I still doubt Sevilla meets the criteria to win the UEL, to return to the top 10 of La Liga they isstill unable to even though they have gone through more than 30 matches, then how is it possible to win the UEL?
Even reach the semifinals of the UEL is a miracle because we know how this team has performe compare to the previous season

Sevilla won't be that bad at UEL bro.
Even though it looks bad in La Liga, I will be more sure if Sevilla will be very good in the UEL match later.
I understand what you mean that Sevilla seemed lucky to qualify for the semifinals because of MU's carelessness but for me it was not only because of that but indeed the performance of all Sevilla players was very good and for me Sevilla would be better compared to Juventus.
For me, who will favor Juventus in this league, I just think they will be disappointed to see Sevilla able to qualify for the final round.

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Quote from: puloweh555 on May 05, 2023, 01:25:19 PM

Quote from: $anounimus$ on May 05, 2023, 12:00:05 PM

Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to immediately ensure the La Liga title. But even though the Blaugrana are the favorites to win I hope Xavi will continue to play full strength in this match, especially for Lewandowski he has to add to his goal treasury because to be able to get away from Benzema's pursuit. For Lewandowski it will be very special if he is able to win the top scorer title and win La Liga in his first season with Barcelona.

Of course Barcelona will not waste the opportunity to lock in the Laliga title this season. Barcelona have a chance to win the La Liga title against Espanyol and their victory in this match will confirm them as champions without having to depend on the results of rival teams. Even though Espanyol are currently in a low position in the table, they are still a tough team and can provide a tough match for Barcelona. Therefore, Barcelona must play seriously and focus on winning the match.
Yes, Robert Lewandowski is absolutely right, he has another important mission apart from helping Barcelona win the La Liga title this season, namely to become the top scorer in La Liga. However, individual achievements must not trump the team's bigger goal, which is winning the La Liga title. Therefore, Lewandowski and the entire Barcelona team must play well and support each other to achieve their main goal.

Personally, I would say that I have not been very satisfied with the performance that Robert Lewandowski has shown this season. At least I cannot say that I saw the same type of Robert Lewandowski which I am used to seeing in Bayern Munich. I hope that is just him taking some time to get set with the team.

Well, I understand that he has scored the most goals in this season in La Liga. But at the same time, I have seen him missing some really easy chances. I have never seen him missing those types of chances when he was playing in Bayern Munich. Probably it is because he is getting older.

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