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They lost to mediocre teams and that is different with Real Madrid. Even though they only won with a score of 1-0 or 2-0, a win is still a win. I think this is exactly what Ancelotti said. That Barcelona did win the El Classico but Real Madrid will win the trophy.
You are so confident after Barcelona's poor results in a few matches. I think all possibilities can happen, it's normal for the team to have ups and downs. Big teams are all bound to experience and this is the League is always difficult to predict. Real Madrid had a chance to catch up and that made me happy because Real Madrid won today. The point difference is getting smaller. The team's current coaches have the opportunity to improve their strength by taking advantage of the winter transfer market.
Now it is fair enough for Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​at the beginning of the season Real Madrid was in a slump but now Barcelona is experiencing it but don't be too quick to conclude that this will continue because it is true as you said that the ups and downs of a team's performance are common and Real Madrid and Barcelona are also likely to experience that throughout this season so if we talk about the title race this season it is still too early because the journey this season is still very long and all possibilities are still possible to happen.
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There's nothing happen except lucky, Las Palmas is just lucky they can beat Barcelona in Barcelona's home.  Barcelona have dominated the ball possession, shots more than Las Palmas, no red card, they've all out. Even though Barcelona didn't play with their best eleven, but the substitute players have decent qualities.

It is not wrong to say that Las Palmas won with luck, because looking at the match statistics, we can actually judge who deserves to win. But the problem is that in football dominating and creating many opportunities is not enough, because what determines whether they win or not is the number of goals they can score. Luck also cannot be obtained just like that, because Las Palmas also tried well, especially in maintaining defense and taking advantage of the opportunities they got. Although they didn't get many opportunities, once they got the opportunity they could convert it into a goal.
This is not just a matter of luck if not for their hard work and intelligence in reading Barcelona's game the club would not have won this, basically Barcelona's performance in the last few matches can be said to be not so good they experienced 2 defeats and one draw in their last five matches so this victory is not just luck Las Palmas they took advantage of Barcelona's instability in this match.
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One just has to admire how quickly the wind shifts in this topic!

Barcelona gets defeated by Ossasuna, everyone is saying they can't compete with Real, they need to stop dreaming about La Liga!
Barcelona trashes Real 4-0 , Barcelona is the best, Real will have to settle for second, Barcelona has the best attack, they are unstoppable!
Barcelona loses to Las Palmas, everything is lost, Real is clear champions, Barcelona is not playing a thing anymore!

Guys, it was round 15 out of 38, we're not even at half the league, stop with these clear-cut predictions as they might not hold true next week, forget about another 20 matches!
That’s how easy opinions are swayed when you’re a neutral. Barcelona had a good start but I think they have lost their shot at the title after losing to Las Palmas. Barcelona are only four points ahead of Real Madrid in second place, and with two games in hand, it seems unlikely that Barcelona can hold off Real Madrid's challenge. It may seem too early to crown Real Madrid as champions but their ability to take advantage of opportunities and their clear path to potentially overtaking Barcelona in the standings makes them the undeniable favorite.
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They lost to mediocre teams and that is different with Real Madrid. Even though they only won with a score of 1-0 or 2-0, a win is still a win. I think this is exactly what Ancelotti said. That Barcelona did win the El Classico but Real Madrid will win the trophy.

You are so confident after Barcelona's poor results in a few matches. I think all possibilities can happen, it's normal for the team to have ups and downs. Big teams are all bound to experience and this is the League is always difficult to predict. Real Madrid had a chance to catch up and that made me happy because Real Madrid won today. The point difference is getting smaller. The team's current coaches have the opportunity to improve their strength by taking advantage of the winter transfer market.
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Actually, I personally am also not satisfied with Real Madrid's performance, especially Mbappe, indeed he has the best chance to score a goal, but somehow he can do that and it is true that if Mbappe can take advantage of the opportunity well, of course he will create a hat trick, but yes, fortunately for Real Madrid win and Mbappe scores a goal, just imagine if for example Mbappe didn't score then Mbappe would definitely be embarrassed by Real Madrid fans, but fortunately he scored a goal and Real Madrid could win, and I really like his style of celebration (Mbappe) is good.
Mbappe wasted many chance, if he can only score one or two goal(s) in every match, there's nothing different between him and Joselu.

You know, Joselu only got paid for 2.5 Million Euros, while Mbappe get paid 31 Million Euros, which is 12x times higher than Joselu, but he didn't bring the same 12x qualities.
With this type of tune, I think you are being sentimental about it here, Kyler mbape is not the first player that they have bought that hasn't lived up to the hype around his acquisition.

The pressure already on his shoulder is one of the reasons he is still struggling with form since he went to Madrid, and secondly, he is not a central forwarder, you don't expect him to be at his very best when he is been utilize as an attacker that he is not, if you have played football before, you will certainly knows that it can be very difficult at first to adapt to a new position that isn't yours from the start, so I believe that he is going to come good for real madrid, at least his numbers is not that bad considering the fact that he is being played out of position, mostly when vinicious junior is on the pitch.

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However, we shouldn't forget Ronaldo was been hated by the fans since he didn't perform in Real Madrid. But, after few months he can show if he deserve to play in Real Madrid.
That's just it, the expectations placed on him in the first place was just too much, so when he wasn't living up to that expectations that's when the hates comes in, but with time, he became one of the most loved real madrid player and legend because he won them over by his performance later on, so I believe that Kyler mbape will comes good, what he needs is just time.
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Barcelona finally dropped from the top of the standings without asking. If Madrid win 3 full points today from Getafe, then we see a big change in La Liga and Hansi Flick will start to be doubted a lot like Xavi felt at that time. Without meaning to offend, Barcelona has stolen the show at the beginning of the season and suddenly lost stability, Yamal really has a big influence on the club's performance.
Barcelona's condition is having problems in the previous three matches and they have lost concentration to stay on the winning track. From several matches that took place I saw a weakness that occurred and maybe it was caused by fatigue factors that made a number of Barcelona players not in much better condition and relying on one player like Yamal will not give them the strength to compete until the end of the season. For the future it will be much more difficult when Hansi Flick is unable to make changes and maybe he will be talked about like Xavi.
It's called the season of rotation where even a big club will have problems in their season so I think it's normal because after all, ups and downs in performance are bound to happen due to factors such as focus slowly eroding because of the schedule or lack of players due to injuries.

Madrid's case at the start of the season was due to injuries and now Barcelona's is due to fatigue and a slow loss of focus that has led them to have a different reversal at the moment.
Madrid clearly benefited from Barcelona's results in their last 3 matches because now the gap is 1 point and Madrid still has 1 match left which logically now Madrid only has to complete 3 points for the remaining 1 match so that the top position can finally be obtained. Only it is certain that this is not very good for Barcelona if they continue like this, it could be that other competitions are also affected by their inconsistency.
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Actually, I personally am also not satisfied with Real Madrid's performance, especially Mbappe, indeed he has the best chance to score a goal, but somehow he can do that and it is true that if Mbappe can take advantage of the opportunity well, of course he will create a hat trick, but yes, fortunately for Real Madrid win and Mbappe scores a goal, just imagine if for example Mbappe didn't score then Mbappe would definitely be embarrassed by Real Madrid fans, but fortunately he scored a goal and Real Madrid could win, and I really like his style of celebration (Mbappe) is good.
Mbappe wasted many chance, if he can only score one or two goal(s) in every match, there's nothing different between him and Joselu.

You know, Joselu only got paid for 2.5 Million Euros, while Mbappe get paid 31 Million Euros, which is 12x times higher than Joselu, but he didn't bring the same 12x qualities.

However, we shouldn't forget Ronaldo was been hated by the fans since he didn't perform in Real Madrid. But, after few months he can show if he deserve to play in Real Madrid.
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I can even say that Real Madrid will be the champion of La Liga again this season. Although they did not score many goals, Real Madrid is an efficient team. Barcelona played aggressively with 43 goals in La Liga but their performance was inconsistent. They lost to mediocre teams and that is different with Real Madrid. Even though they only won with a score of 1-0 or 2-0, a win is still a win. I think this is exactly what Ancelotti said. That Barcelona did win the El Classico but Real Madrid will win the trophy.
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Barcelona finally dropped from the top of the standings without asking. If Madrid win 3 full points today from Getafe, then we see a big change in La Liga and Hansi Flick will start to be doubted a lot like Xavi felt at that time. Without meaning to offend, Barcelona has stolen the show at the beginning of the season and suddenly lost stability, Yamal really has a big influence on the club's performance.
Barcelona's condition is having problems in the previous three matches and they have lost concentration to stay on the winning track. From several matches that took place I saw a weakness that occurred and maybe it was caused by fatigue factors that made a number of Barcelona players not in much better condition and relying on one player like Yamal will not give them the strength to compete until the end of the season. For the future it will be much more difficult when Hansi Flick is unable to make changes and maybe he will be talked about like Xavi.
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In terms of the match, I am not too satisfied with Madrid's performance, you can count how many chances Mbappe failed to score. Imagine if every chance was a goal then Mbappe scored a hattrick. Getafe played defensively in the first half because there was no choice at all. While in the second half Getafe tried to get out 2x hitting the crossbar so that their defense line had many open gaps but Madrid could not take advantage of the opportunities.

Actually, I personally am also not satisfied with Real Madrid's performance, especially Mbappe, indeed he has the best chance to score a goal, but somehow he can do that and it is true that if Mbappe can take advantage of the opportunity well, of course he will create a hat trick, but yes, fortunately for Real Madrid win and Mbappe scores a goal, just imagine if for example Mbappe didn't score then Mbappe would definitely be embarrassed by Real Madrid fans, but fortunately he scored a goal and Real Madrid could win, and I really like his style of celebration (Mbappe) is good.

Indeed, in the second half, Real Madrid's defense line was easily broken down by Getafe, however, it is true that it is a shame that Real Madrid were not able to take advantage of that opportunity well. Yes, personally, in that match, I actually predicted that it would be suitable if Real Madrid scored 5 or 4 goals considering that the opponent Real Madrid faced was Getafe, which of course, if you look at the squad, is certainly superior to Real Madrid.

but yes, now Real Madrid is lucky because they were able to get 3 points from Getafe and of course this is a good thing for Real Madrid because now Real Madrid still has a chance to overtake Barcelona from the top of the standings and of course in Laliga Real Madrid still has hope of becoming champions which is definitely different from UCL because the competition is tougher.
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Kylian Mbappe's poor finishing this season is the reason why Real Madrid does not have high goal productivity. You are of course right that Mbappe had many opportunities in this match, but not only in that match, but in all matches Mbappe had many wasted opportunities. He has to be calm and stay away from pressure, so he needs to do it as well as possible so as not to become a player who will be ridiculed by his own fans.
Honestly, he did miss the chances a few times in this match, just like in other previous matches. But this time, there has been a little progress. Yes, at least, he has scored 1 goal in the match against Getafe and contributed 1 winning goal for Real Madrid. If he can be that optimal in every chance, then his contribution will be more visible. It's just that, it's quite covered up by some things and his ridiculous position when on the attacking line, with offside and also his position which is more often waiting for the ball.


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Mbappe played a role in this match against Getafe only by scoring one goal. With his one goal, Real Madrid won and managed to come to the second position in the point table. It is true that Mbappe can be more visible if Real Madrid tries his best in every match. But one of Mbappe's bad habits is that he plays excessively offside and does not play hard. Of course, these aspects need to be evaluated more so that Mbappe gets at least a chance to score goals in the next matches and has a reward for the team. If Mbappe can correct these mistakes in every match, he can score goals and make a good contribution for Real Madrid.
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In terms of the match, I am not too satisfied with Madrid's performance, you can count how many chances Mbappe failed to score. Imagine if every chance was a goal then Mbappe scored a hattrick. Getafe played defensively in the first half because there was no choice at all. While in the second half Getafe tried to get out 2x hitting the crossbar so that their defense line had many open gaps but Madrid could not take advantage of the opportunities.
Kylian Mbappe's poor finishing this season is the reason why Real Madrid does not have high goal productivity. You are of course right that Mbappe had many opportunities in this match, but not only in that match, but in all matches Mbappe had many wasted opportunities. He has to be calm and stay away from pressure, so he needs to do it as well as possible so as not to become a player who will be ridiculed by his own fans.
Real Madrid played last match against Getafe in which Real Madrid came away with victory. Bellingham and Mbappe have contributed a lot behind this victory of Real Madrid. Both of these goals came within minutes of Real Madrid scoring in the first half. Expectations were higher for Real Madrid, who led the opposition 2-0 in the first half, but Real Madrid let us down in the second half. 

However, getting 3 points in this match was very important for Real Madrid because they had already performed poorly in the previous matches and may have gone back a lot mentally. But the performance of this match will motivate them again to perform well in the next matches.

On one hand, Barcelona is doing badly, on the other hand, Real Madrid is doing well regularly in La Liga. Maybe Real Madrid's 15th match could be like this where Real Madrid overtakes Barcelona to occupy the number one position in the points table.
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But this is too superficial if we want to discuss Mbappe's performance in the last few months. He has scored some penalties included in those 8 goals, which is fine, but Real Madrid needs him to score goals apart from penalties. That is what he is known for. He scores when the opponents expect it the least. The numbers aren't bad, but this is like looking at the numbers when a striker scored 5 goals in 1 game and then doesn't score the next 4 games. He then averages 1 goal per game, but is it good for the team? I doubt it. He doesn't show up enough in the important games and now that you mention these numbers, where does Real Madrid need him to score the most? In the Champions League, but in that competition he rarely scores. I think 1 goal so far and this is the reason why they are where they are in the table.

Mbappe still needs time to become the player expected and I see a lack of teamwork which makes him a little bit difficult to score and even though in some previous games he missed too many chances to score.
Real Madrid is experiencing a player crisis due to injuries so it does affect the entire team but slowly they are starting to recover and now only one point is left from Barcelona because Real Madrid still has one game left that they have not played. Blaming Mbappe for not being able to score goals is also not right, because there are times when players will go through difficult times, plus the team is in an unstable condition and we hope they can continue to improve for the next match.
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Even a few seasons ago, when Benzema was in charge, Real Madrid didn't play well. It seems to me that this isn't the Real Madrid coach's objective. He focuses only on getting good results. Winning the game is what interests him most. And they're not completely wrong. Proof of this is that he's now close to becoming the leader of the table again and Real Madrid will be champions again this season. I have no doubt about that. Because like I said: the Real Madrid coach just wants goals and victories. It doesn't matter if it's 1 goal or 2. As long as he doesn't concede a goal and we win, that's fine. That's why he's not worried about Mbappe, because when we look at the numbers:

Mbappe in La Liga: 13 games, 8 goals

These numbers aren't bad for a striker.
13 games and 8 goals, not too bad for Mbappe performances, but because he is a super star player, people expect too much from him. They forgot that Mbappe only joined Real Madrid in this summer and he had limited time for preseason training as consequences of Euro 2024 and Coppa America 2024. Many players in Real Madrid had to play in these tournaments and they had less time of training together in the summer.

I agree that Mbappe did not play with his best so far for Real Madrid but I believe he will improve his performances soon.

But this is too superficial if we want to discuss Mbappe's performance in the last few months. He has scored some penalties included in those 8 goals, which is fine, but Real Madrid needs him to score goals apart from penalties. That is what he is known for. He scores when the opponents expect it the least. The numbers aren't bad, but this is like looking at the numbers when a striker scored 5 goals in 1 game and then doesn't score the next 4 games. He then averages 1 goal per game, but is it good for the team? I doubt it
The biggest thing Real Madrid can do to help Mbappe, is reducing pressure on him, and giving him opportunities to score goals from penalties is one of their attempts. Mbappe will return to better performances when he plays and enjoys matches, not with too much pressure at any match debut.

People in the last 20 years have become familiar with supermen like Messi and Ronaldo and they want to see the same from Mbappe and Haaland. They ignore fact that players like Messi and Ronaldo are not easily found in football history. Mbappe is a great player but requires him to play like either Messi or Ronaldo is too much.
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The game Barcelona lost to Las Palmas was a bit confusing and I have been wondering why losing a game they have already won before the kick off of the game? The coach really wants to lose his position as the league leaders to Madrid that have been struggling to get that spark of brilliance but it hasn't been working for them and again Ancelotti said the last time they lost to Barcelona with 4 goals that they won the league which means they'll win this very campaign, it seems Hansi Flick wants all these things to happen.
It would be very bad to see Barcelona losing the league to Madrid after all these wonderful performance and if you check the table you would see that Madrid are very close with a game at hand and ATM are also catching up with just 2 pts behind. A friend said each time Barcelona game is being played in the afternoon they either lose or play a draw and is a must, how true is that to start with?
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In terms of the match, I am not too satisfied with Madrid's performance, you can count how many chances Mbappe failed to score. Imagine if every chance was a goal then Mbappe scored a hattrick. Getafe played defensively in the first half because there was no choice at all. While in the second half Getafe tried to get out 2x hitting the crossbar so that their defense line had many open gaps but Madrid could not take advantage of the opportunities.

Even a few seasons ago, when Benzema was in charge, Real Madrid didn't play well. It seems to me that this isn't the Real Madrid coach's objective. He focuses only on getting good results. Winning the game is what interests him most. And they're not completely wrong. Proof of this is that he's now close to becoming the leader of the table again and Real Madrid will be champions again this season. I have no doubt about that. Because like I said: the Real Madrid coach just wants goals and victories. It doesn't matter if it's 1 goal or 2. As long as he doesn't concede a goal and we win, that's fine. That's why he's not worried about Mbappe, because when we look at the numbers:

Mbappe in La Liga: 13 games, 8 goals

These numbers aren't bad for a striker.

But this is too superficial if we want to discuss Mbappe's performance in the last few months. He has scored some penalties included in those 8 goals, which is fine, but Real Madrid needs him to score goals apart from penalties. That is what he is known for. He scores when the opponents expect it the least. The numbers aren't bad, but this is like looking at the numbers when a striker scored 5 goals in 1 game and then doesn't score the next 4 games. He then averages 1 goal per game, but is it good for the team? I doubt it. He doesn't show up enough in the important games and now that you mention these numbers, where does Real Madrid need him to score the most? In the Champions League, but in that competition he rarely scores. I think 1 goal so far and this is the reason why they are where they are in the table.
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One just has to admire how quickly the wind shifts in this topic!

Barcelona gets defeated by Ossasuna, everyone is saying they can't compete with Real, they need to stop dreaming about La Liga!
Barcelona trashes Real 4-0 , Barcelona is the best, Real will have to settle for second, Barcelona has the best attack, they are unstoppable!
Barcelona loses to Las Palmas, everything is lost, Real is clear champions, Barcelona is not playing a thing anymore!

Guys, it was round 15 out of 38, we're not even at half the league, stop with these clear-cut predictions as they might not hold true next week, forget about another 20 matches!
That's the thing with football and you shouldn't be surprised that there are differing opinions about Barcelona's style of play currently. I still believe that like every other club who are experiencing their hard times, Barcelona aren't immune to setback so let's just give them time to see if they can get back up or this is the end for them even though the season is still fresh.

I'm not surprised at all, I'm pretty sure that things can easily turn around and we might have Real making a wrong step, what I'm surprised about is the instant reactions of this board everyone going 180 degrees after just one match, I know it's hard for it to happen but I would love to see it I the next round, Barcelona playing perfectly and Real flopping at Girona and see how suddenly again Barca is the favorite for the title just like that. It's just that I don't get it why most here treat every round like it's some elimination-style competition, one loss and you're out of the battle!

Kylian Mbappe's poor finishing this season is the reason why Real Madrid does not have high goal productivity. You are of course right that Mbappe had many opportunities in this match, but not only in that match, but in all matches Mbappe had many wasted opportunities. He has to be calm and stay away from pressure, so he needs to do it as well as possible so as not to become a player who will be ridiculed by his own fans.

They still are the second-best attacking team in the league with one less game and with far fewer plays against teams with weak defenses if you look at h2h between them and the rest, so I don't think there is actually any issues with goal productivity. After all, it matters little if you win 5 nill or 3-1, what matters are points.

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In terms of the match, I am not too satisfied with Madrid's performance, you can count how many chances Mbappe failed to score. Imagine if every chance was a goal then Mbappe scored a hattrick. Getafe played defensively in the first half because there was no choice at all. While in the second half Getafe tried to get out 2x hitting the crossbar so that their defense line had many open gaps but Madrid could not take advantage of the opportunities.

Even a few seasons ago, when Benzema was in charge, Real Madrid didn't play well. It seems to me that this isn't the Real Madrid coach's objective. He focuses only on getting good results. Winning the game is what interests him most. And they're not completely wrong. Proof of this is that he's now close to becoming the leader of the table again and Real Madrid will be champions again this season. I have no doubt about that. Because like I said: the Real Madrid coach just wants goals and victories. It doesn't matter if it's 1 goal or 2. As long as he doesn't concede a goal and we win, that's fine. That's why he's not worried about Mbappe, because when we look at the numbers:

Mbappe in La Liga: 13 games, 8 goals

These numbers aren't bad for a striker.
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Kylian Mbappe's poor finishing this season is the reason why Real Madrid does not have high goal productivity. You are of course right that Mbappe had many opportunities in this match, but not only in that match, but in all matches Mbappe had many wasted opportunities. He has to be calm and stay away from pressure, so he needs to do it as well as possible so as not to become a player who will be ridiculed by his own fans.

We shouldn't pressure Mbappe before he turns into a flop. How many goals were we expecting him to be on by this time that we are just about half way into the league. The highest any team has played is 15 games and we still have more games left to play therefore there's enough time for more goals to be scored. He already has 10 goals without adding other contributions he's adding to the team therefore I don't think he's performing that bad as people are making it to look like. We expected so much from him but everything won't just happen immediately but will take some time. Real Madrid defeated Getafe and Mbappe scored and are likely going to win the league now.

I don't think it needs us to put pressure onto Mbappe, the media in Spain and around the world will take care of that. But you know he won't turn into a flop in the literal sense, he will just stay below expectations that he himself built up throughout his career with some marvelous performances. Now people don't understand why there is a problem that the old (the young) Mbappe finally comes back. They want to see him explode again and take on the challenge with 3 opponents at the same time.

But so far many of the greatest moments he had are all moments from the past, if not all. It is not the brilliant Mbappe he can be and I wonder what is missing. Certainly a brilliant mind in the midfield or someone like Messi who perfectly understands how to serve a striker with an assist. Mbappe loved it because he knew Messi would see when he is about to go for a free space with a sprint. Real Madrid does not have the best midfield for the time being.
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In terms of the match, I am not too satisfied with Madrid's performance, you can count how many chances Mbappe failed to score. Imagine if every chance was a goal then Mbappe scored a hattrick. Getafe played defensively in the first half because there was no choice at all. While in the second half Getafe tried to get out 2x hitting the crossbar so that their defense line had many open gaps but Madrid could not take advantage of the opportunities.
Kylian Mbappe's poor finishing this season is the reason why Real Madrid does not have high goal productivity. You are of course right that Mbappe had many opportunities in this match, but not only in that match, but in all matches Mbappe had many wasted opportunities. He has to be calm and stay away from pressure, so he needs to do it as well as possible so as not to become a player who will be ridiculed by his own fans.

Real Madrid usually wins this match, I don't think it's difficult to win this match today. Getafe team attacked only a few times, you can see that Real Madrid team was relatively strong and full of squad.
The first goal was a penalty and the second goal was a kick that Mbappe gave because of the goalkeeper's weakness, it didn't deserve to be a goal. The ball went straight through the front of the hand, but anyway, in today's match, Real Madrid fans were clapping. And Real Madrid team was able to collect three points very easily.
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