La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 259.

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Quote from: irhact on November 17, 2024, 07:49:10 AM

Quote from: Solokan on November 17, 2024, 07:21:32 AM

Barcelona's second defeat in Laliga this season is of course very unfortunate because of course this makes Barcelona fail to get 3 points from Real Sociedad and of course this certainly disappoints Barcelona fans who hoped that their which he supports team would win points but the results did not match the expectations of Barcelona fans. .

From the way Barcelona played I think they deserved to lose that game as they didn't have any shot on target and weren't playing like they wanted to score. They missed their chance of going 6 points clear of Real Madrid and they might regret losing this game when Real Madrid meet them at the same point. The advantage that Barcelona still has is that Real Madrid haven't been playing very well therefore they too might lose their own game or draw and this will give Barcelona more advantage to win the league. Barcelona next game is against Celta Vigo and they have to win this game to maintain their top position in the league or Real Madrid will catch up

Although madrid are currently still behind Barcelona, it is precisely at this time that their chances of catching Barcelona are starting to open up again, the defeat of sociedad makes Barcelona now have to be able to maintain their consistency in the league because after all madrid still have 1 match postponed which might be their ace card to get rid of Barcelona from the top of the standings later, Barcelona performance so far has been very convincing but I think it's time for them to focus because even one more defeat will make them may not longer be able to lead the La Liga standings later, because we know so far Madrid is a team that is able to rise and appear consistent if they play with a complete squad, so for now Barcelona should be able to take advantage of every opportunity that exists to stay away from Madrid as long Ancelotti squad is limping.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 17, 2024, 07:26:51 AM

I don't understand why De Jong is the highest paid player at Barcelona. When it comes to contribution, I haven't seen anything particularly exceptional from him that justifies the huge salary that he is receiving at the club.

The amount they are paying him is quite big but however this explains that Barcelona is not actually paying there players based on their higher performance on the field, meanwhile I think the high salary he is receiving was during the time he was signed to play for the club so there is nothing Barcelona can do about it because I don't think they can even renegotiate with him and it may not even be a financial advise, however I noticed that Spanish La Liga is more expensive in salary than premier League because De Jong is even earning more than Kelvin de Bruyne of Manchester City, so I wonder the amount Kelvin de Bruyne will be paid if he was to be hired by Barcelona.

That is Barcelona's consequence of the agreement at the beginning of his arrival, expectations for de Jong made Barcelona confident to give a high salary, but that did not happen, de Jong is often injured and his performance is not comparable to what the club spends, in my opinion for now Barcelona is better off renewing the new agreement by lowering his salary also to stabilize the club's finances or selling him is also a good decision, moreover currently Hansi Flick entrusts the midfielder position to young players and the results are very good. And in my opinion regarding the higher salary in La Liga maybe because the competition is more competitive or maybe there are other reasons, and maybe if KDB plays in this league his salary will be higher than de Jong because his contribution to the club has been proven.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 17, 2024, 07:26:51 AM

I don't understand why De Jong is the highest paid player at Barcelona. When it comes to contribution, I haven't seen anything particularly exceptional from him that justifies the huge salary that he is receiving at the club.

The amount they are paying him is quite big but however this explains that Barcelona is not actually paying there players based on their higher performance on the field, meanwhile I think the high salary he is receiving was during the time he was signed to play for the club so there is nothing Barcelona can do about it because I don't think they can even renegotiate with him and it may not even be a financial advise, however I noticed that Spanish La Liga is more expensive in salary than premier League because De Jong is even earning more than Kelvin de Bruyne of Manchester City, so I wonder the amount Kelvin de Bruyne will be paid if he was to be hired by Barcelona.

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Quote from: irhact on November 17, 2024, 07:49:10 AM

Quote from: Solokan on November 17, 2024, 07:21:32 AM

Barcelona's second defeat in Laliga this season is of course very unfortunate because of course this makes Barcelona fail to get 3 points from Real Sociedad and of course this certainly disappoints Barcelona fans who hoped that their which he supports team would win points but the results did not match the expectations of Barcelona fans. .

From the way Barcelona played I think they deserved to lose that game as they didn't have any shot on target and weren't playing like they wanted to score. They missed their chance of going 6 points clear of Real Madrid and they might regret losing this game when Real Madrid meet them at the same point. The advantage that Barcelona still has is that Real Madrid haven't been playing very well therefore they too might lose their own game or draw and this will give Barcelona more advantage to win the league. Barcelona next game is against Celta Vigo and they have to win this game to maintain their top position in the league or Real Madrid will catch up

I agree with you that it was a deserved win for Real Sociedad, although Barcelona played with very good ball possession but in terms of creating chances they could not do anything, in fact Real Sociedad was able to take advantage of the moments they got and managed to create 1 goal to secure the win.
They did not play as usual and were more confused when entering the third area of the defense built by Real Sociedad. Real Sociedad knows very well the style of play of Barcelona and they can implement strategies well and that makes it difficult for Barcelona to break down the defense they built.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 16, 2024, 11:08:29 PM

Hansi Flick only advantage at the moment is having a complete squad, while Real Madrid are experiencing a storm of injuries, in their last match when they won against Osasuna, they also had to lose three players. The defeat to Sociedad means Hansi Flick has to be more careful in formulating his strategy, he needs to maintain the balance of his squad in order to keep the distance with Real Madrid. The gap of only 3 points makes the competition for the top of the standings even more exciting, Real Madrid is still a big threat to Barcelona even though Ancelotti has a little difficulty in formulating his squad due to many key players being injured.

What you said is very right because even though Barcelona still looks superior to Real Madrid, Barcelona still has to try to create a distance with Real Madrid because the team can usually also make a comeback when all its players have recovered and if Real Madrid can buy new players again when the transfer market reopens in January. And next weekend I am quite sure that Barcelona will try again to get full points even though Barcelona will play at their opponent's headquarters, namely Celta Vigo's headquarters.

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Quote from: Inwestour on November 17, 2024, 06:27:02 AM

Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:38:34 AM

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

Any team will prefer younger players, but you understand that Ancelotti does not have time now to try how young players can enter the game, he now needs players who can immediately enter the game because the season is already in full swing, and further losses can only worsen Real's situation.

Ancelotti ideology prefers players who already have a star label rather than giving opportunities to young players, not only now, in the past he has rarely given opportunities for academy players to enter the main team. Arda Guler and Endrick are talented young players brought in by Real Madrid, but Ancelotti does not see them as diamonds with high value in the future, they spend more time on the bench than being given the opportunity to play. Now is not the time for Ancelotti to experiment, especially since he is short of players in the defensive area. Maybe Real Madrid will bring in new players in the January transfer window to improve the quality in the defensive area.

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Quote from: Solokan on November 17, 2024, 07:21:32 AM

Barcelona's second defeat in Laliga this season is of course very unfortunate because of course this makes Barcelona fail to get 3 points from Real Sociedad and of course this certainly disappoints Barcelona fans who hoped that their which he supports team would win points but the results did not match the expectations of Barcelona fans. .

From the way Barcelona played I think they deserved to lose that game as they didn't have any shot on target and weren't playing like they wanted to score. They missed their chance of going 6 points clear of Real Madrid and they might regret losing this game when Real Madrid meet them at the same point. The advantage that Barcelona still has is that Real Madrid haven't been playing very well therefore they too might lose their own game or draw and this will give Barcelona more advantage to win the league. Barcelona next game is against Celta Vigo and they have to win this game to maintain their top position in the league or Real Madrid will catch up

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Quote from: Farma on November 17, 2024, 07:16:59 AM

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Any team will prefer younger players, but you understand that Ancelotti does not have time now to try how young players can enter the game, he now needs players who can immediately enter the game because the season is already in full swing, and further losses can only worsen Real's situation.

In the last rounds they have slightly reduced the gap with Barcelona, but to continue to pursue them they need a reliable defense. Real recently reported that they do not have money for new transfers, so they wanted to sell several players, so before looking for replacements for injured players, they need to find money for this.

Ancelotti has proven that he prefers to launch young players and combine them with senior players in the Real Madrid team and in the last few seasons he has done this quite successfully even though the situation is a little different now, because they need players to fill the void left by Real Madrid's main players who are injured but I don't think recruiting young players is wrong, in fact it can be an investment in the future.

Real Madrid is a financially strong team so I think there is no doubt about that, they only need a few players in the defensive line and Ancelotti has confirmed that they will recruit in the January transfer window.
With the current conditions, of course Real Madrid management will support that, because they will definitely try harder to be able to defend the La Liga title this season.

Young players are not only good for business, but they can also still make a contribution, and they might even become one of the key players. Martin Odegaard is one such example, and he left Madrid not because he played badly there, but more because Madrid had too many star players at that time, so Odegaard didn't get many opportunities to be on the pitch.

It would be better to have young players alongside older or star players, so he can be a backup and learn many things that will make him improve more. But the situation currently facing Madrid is a different case, and demands more signing of experienced players rather than young players.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 17, 2024, 07:26:51 AM

I don't understand why De Jong is the highest paid player at Barcelona. When it comes to contribution, I haven't seen anything particularly exceptional from him that justifies the huge salary that he is receiving at the club. Given Barcelona's financial struggles, it would be advisable for the club to offer him a revised contract with more reasonable terms. And if he doesn't agree to it, then it will be in the best interest of Barcelona to part ways with him. The club has a lot of young promising talents who could step up and fill his role.

Sometimes it is one way for a team to retain its players, and that is also what seems to be happening in Barcelona right now. Because if they intended, then they should have sold Frenkie De Jong, because he is one of the players whose sales could be the most expensive in the club. However, Barcelona prefers to keep him, because they still need the role of this player. There were so many tempting offers for Frenkie de Jong that came to Barcelona in the last transfer window. However, they still insisted on keeping him, even though selling De Jong would help Barcelona's finances a little, but they did not choose that.

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Barcelona doesn't have a good financial situation. Especially compared to Real Madrid they don't have money to buy superstar palyers and sometimes they don't even have enough money to save and keep the players they already have which can make some players leave the team because of them getting not high salaries in Barcelona while other teams can give them more.
Currently, the contract of De Jong will end in 2026 and he can leave Barcelona for free while Barcelona sent him an offer to extend his contract but he hasn't responded yet.

Frenkie de Jong has the highest salary at Barcelona and the club's current financial situation is indeed getting worse which makes some players worry about their salaries which might be cut, maybe the reason Frenkie de Jong has not pressed for a contract extension is because he still has to think long about this problem or decide to move to another club that will give a higher salary, he has been with Barcelona for 6 seasons and I think that is long enough, Barcalenoa want to keep him longer but cannot force the player to stay.

I don't understand why De Jong is the highest paid player at Barcelona. When it comes to contribution, I haven't seen anything particularly exceptional from him that justifies the huge salary that he is receiving at the club. Given Barcelona's financial struggles, it would be advisable for the club to offer him a revised contract with more reasonable terms. And if he doesn't agree to it, then it will be in the best interest of Barcelona to part ways with him. The club has a lot of young promising talents who could step up and fill his role.

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Quote from: Obim34 on November 16, 2024, 02:58:20 PM

Barcelona loss to Real Sociedad really affects their chances of maintaining those outstanding points differences, now they only need to lose one more game and Real Madrid winning their fixtures to then catch up on the table. The absence of some Barcelona key player were felt in the game, the loss was never the option, i also watched how the coached was reacting when the game was still on, i bet he expected a better result. There is still more time for the club to work on achieving the title, the season started with them becoming the favorite, not good if Madrid will from their slacking performance later on beats them the spot and emerge as the winner of the La Liga once again.

Barcelona's second defeat in Laliga this season is of course very unfortunate because of course this makes Barcelona fail to get 3 points from Real Sociedad and of course this certainly disappoints Barcelona fans who hoped that their which he supports team would win points but the results did not match the expectations of Barcelona fans. .

Yes, the point is that it is true that Barcelona's defeat was very beneficial for Real Madrid because of course it made Real Madrid not have a big difference in points with Barcelona. Yes, of course it is clear that Hansi Flick is very disappointed with this incident because after all, Barcelona should still have a large points difference with Real Madrid if they want to be safe. Yes, but Laliga viewers will definitely want exciting matches and competitive competition, but of course club supporters will definitely just want to see their chosen club succeed and have a big difference in points.

Yes, it won't be easy for Flick to get his team to win the trophy because of course Real Madrid will be a strong obstacle for Barcelona. But of course the ones who have the potential to win first place and runner up at the end of this season are Real Madrid and Barcelona.

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Quote from: Inwestour on November 17, 2024, 06:27:02 AM

Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:38:34 AM

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

Any team will prefer younger players, but you understand that Ancelotti does not have time now to try how young players can enter the game, he now needs players who can immediately enter the game because the season is already in full swing, and further losses can only worsen Real's situation.

In the last rounds they have slightly reduced the gap with Barcelona, but to continue to pursue them they need a reliable defense. Real recently reported that they do not have money for new transfers, so they wanted to sell several players, so before looking for replacements for injured players, they need to find money for this.

Ancelotti has proven that he prefers to launch young players and combine them with senior players in the Real Madrid team and in the last few seasons he has done this quite successfully even though the situation is a little different now, because they need players to fill the void left by Real Madrid's main players who are injured but I don't think recruiting young players is wrong, in fact it can be an investment in the future.

Real Madrid is a financially strong team so I think there is no doubt about that, they only need a few players in the defensive line and Ancelotti has confirmed that they will recruit in the January transfer window.
With the current conditions, of course Real Madrid management will support that, because they will definitely try harder to be able to defend the La Liga title this season.

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Quote from: Inwestour on November 17, 2024, 06:27:02 AM

Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:38:34 AM

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

Any team will prefer younger players, but you understand that Ancelotti does not have time now to try how young players can enter the game, he now needs players who can immediately enter the game because the season is already in full swing, and further losses can only worsen Real's situation.

In the last rounds they have slightly reduced the gap with Barcelona, but to continue to pursue them they need a reliable defense. Real recently reported that they do not have money for new transfers, so they wanted to sell several players, so before looking for replacements for injured players, they need to find money for this.

To be fair, if Ancelotti doesn't have time to develop the young players, he shouldn't buy Arda and Endrick. It will really disappoint me if those two young talents are wasted. The better they leave Madrid if they don't get any more minutes in the serious matches.

Endrick and Arda must leave Madrid before football leaves them all.

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Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:38:34 AM

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

Any team will prefer younger players, but you understand that Ancelotti does not have time now to try how young players can enter the game, he now needs players who can immediately enter the game because the season is already in full swing, and further losses can only worsen Real's situation.

In the last rounds they have slightly reduced the gap with Barcelona, but to continue to pursue them they need a reliable defense. Real recently reported that they do not have money for new transfers, so they wanted to sell several players, so before looking for replacements for injured players, they need to find money for this.

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Quote from: len01 on November 17, 2024, 04:38:34 AM

Quote from: naira on November 17, 2024, 02:49:05 AM

Who would sign him to Madrid? Grin

After what he has achieved, Madrid will not make him any offers. So Rodri should not feel confident, just go to Barcelona because there he will compete with other great players. Remember the attitude taken by Florentino Perez, Ancelotti, Madrid staff and all the players at the Ballon d'Or? Then Rodri made a blunder in his celebration.

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

Well, this is a statement from a player that is not based on reality, I mean there is no offer coming from the team he mentioned. That should not have happened, because he tried to compare even before the offer came to him.
Real Madrid is a firm team, especially with a firm club president. When a player has made a statement like that, then Real Madrid will never look at him at all.
Real Madrid prioritizes younger players, because they are building the next generation. So they will definitely choose younger players to be part of them, and they have done that in the last few seasons.

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Quote from: Mustang Shelby on November 16, 2024, 01:38:18 AM

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Frenkie de Jong has the highest salary at Barcelona and the club's current financial situation is indeed getting worse which makes some players worry about their salaries which might be cut, maybe the reason Frenkie de Jong has not pressed for a contract extension is because he still has to think long about this problem or decide to move to another club that will give a higher salary, he has been with Barcelona for 6 seasons and I think that is long enough, Barcalenoa want to keep him longer but cannot force the player to stay.

If he is getting the highest salary, he may not want to renew his contract with Barcelona. If he wants a higher salary, he can transfer to another European team. I am sure he will want to get De Jong. There are many teams waiting in line to meet his transfer fee and contract. He is a very good player, I really like his style. Moreover, he is still 27 years old and very young. He is capable of performing at a high level. Maybe Barcelona should reconsider their decision.

The age of 27 years old can actually not be said to be very young because in 3 years he will soon be 30 years old, most players who are already in their 30s find it difficult to maintain their careers in the European League because most big clubs prefer to recruit young talents who have stronger stamina, but Barcelona still wants De Jong for longer. I think it's better to stay than to leave Barcelona, in another club he has to adapt from the beginning and it may not suit his playing style.

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Quote from: naira on November 17, 2024, 02:49:05 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on November 16, 2024, 06:28:47 PM

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Who would sign him to Madrid? Grin

After what he has achieved, Madrid will not make him any offers. So Rodri should not feel confident, just go to Barcelona because there he will compete with other great players. Remember the attitude taken by Florentino Perez, Ancelotti, Madrid staff and all the players at the Ballon d'Or? Then Rodri made a blunder in his celebration.

Yeah, I support you and even Madrid will never think a bit about making an offer to Rodri and prefer players who are younger and have not had any injury problems. Because Madrid really needs a really quality player right now to replace players who have long-term injuries. Madrid fans will never care about this and even if Rodri joins Barcelona, I am sure Madrid will not have any problems in the coming season.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 16, 2024, 03:33:45 PM

Quote from: Obim34 on November 16, 2024, 02:58:20 PM

Barcelona loss to Real Sociedad really affects their chances of maintaining those outstanding points differences, now they only need to lose one more game and Real Madrid winning their fixtures to then catch up on the table. The absence of some Barcelona key player were felt in the game, the loss was never the option, i also watched how the coached was reacting when the game was still on, i bet he expected a better result. There is still more time for the club to work on achieving the title, the season started with them becoming the favorite, not good if Madrid will from their slacking performance later on beats them the spot and emerge as the winner of the La Liga once again.

Since their chance at the league title isn't jeopardized yet, then they have still got the chance but will only need put in some more work as expected of them, literally the loss against Real Sociedad for me is just one of the few losses they were definitely going to experience this season because normally they weren't looking like a team that was going to have an unbeaten record this season as they have had good performance but yet to show consistency enough to have such faith in them.

Barcelona get a bad results before the international break started and that should be exploited by madrid now, the defeat to sociedad has cut the gap between the two teams to 6 points and madrid also benefited from 1 postponed match that they haven't played yet, so I think madrid will still be able to maintain their chances of winning this season if they are able to continue to be consistent, on the other hand the defeat of sociedad was clearly a big blow to Barcelona who are in their best form at the moment, although the loss of points did not affect their status as leaders of the La Liga standings at the moment, but that it was still a pressure for them, because Madrid could be a big threat to them be championship this season, especially if Madrid can return to a positive path with the return of their injured main players later.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 16, 2024, 06:28:47 PM

And this is one of the hottest transfer live news:

Source: Rodri would prefer to join Barcelona over Real Madrid

Who would sign him to Madrid? Grin

After what he has achieved, Madrid will not make him any offers. So Rodri should not feel confident, just go to Barcelona because there he will compete with other great players. Remember the attitude taken by Florentino Perez, Ancelotti, Madrid staff and all the players at the Ballon d'Or? Then Rodri made a blunder in his celebration.

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The points gap would have been 6 if Barcelona had earned full points in their last match. Barcelona have dropped points against easy opponents in the last match in La Liga and Real Madrid have picked up full points in the other league match, bringing Real Madrid closer to Barcelona's points with these full points. With only a few matches of the season completed, I believe Real Madrid will narrow this point gap with Barcelona in the next few matches to climb back to the top of the points table. But if Barcelona are really serious about their local league then they will not be allowed to drop points in any more matches then it will be possible for them to retain the title this season.

After only a few matches of the season, it will not be possible to compete and get the main results. Barcelona and Real Madrid are separated by only 6 points. If Real Madrid can win their last match then the points gap will reduce to 3. Barcelona are at the top with 33 points after 13 matches played in the 2024-2025 season with 11 wins and 2 losses. On the other hand, Real Madrid are in the top two of the points table with 27 points from 12 matches with 8 wins, 3 draws and 1 loss. I am worried about Real Madrid's recent performance. Their form in the Champions League is not going well at all. Although La-Liga and the Champions League are two different stages, the injury barrage in the Real camp still worries me.

It's not a big difference in points, especially since there are still a lot of matches left this season, so I think a difference of 3 or 6 points is not a big problem for Real Madrid and Barcelona because of course both teams will do everything to compete for the La Liga title this season. Real Madrid, the main one, now has a lot of problems after many of their players were injured, making the team's performance quite slump, but that is also not a reference for them not being able to rise and compete with Barcelona, likewise for Barcelona, even though they are currently in top performance, it does not guarantee that they can maintain consistency until the end of the season, so whatever happens now, I am still optimistic that the competition between the two teams in the fight for the La Liga title this season will continue to be fierce.

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