La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3363.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on August 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

Barcelona are in a much better condition in terms of the squad quality now but we still haven't watched them in any league game yet. We will find out how strong chemistry they have with the new transfers. But if we just take the squad qualities into account then we can clearly say that they are one of the number one contenders for the title. Honestly I would like to watch a fierce fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid for becoming the champions.

Real are the more stable team now, they play well and don't slow down, while Barcelona have been rebuilding lately (can't say whether it's good or bad - the main thing is the result). Barcelona's squad is good, no doubt, but will they be able to play cohesively to produce a good result? That will become clear after the start of the season.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on August 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

Barcelona are in a much better condition in terms of the squad quality now but we still haven't watched them in any league game yet. We will find out how strong chemistry they have with the new transfers. But if we just take the squad qualities into account then we can clearly say that they are one of the number one contenders for the title. Honestly I would like to watch a fierce fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid for becoming the champions.

Absolutely yes with Barcelona have better condition squad right now, but many bad news about Barcelona can't registering new player after break financial fair play rule from La Liga. Barcelona need to cut off salary with several player before available registering with player have been success got like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Jules Koundé, Franck Kessié and Andreas Christensen. I want to see Barvelona more solid team and become competitor for Real Madrid on La Liga race tittle. Barcelona still need get top level again in Champion League after fully failed last season without success pass to knock out stage.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on August 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

Barcelona are in a much better condition in terms of the squad quality now but we still haven't watched them in any league game yet. We will find out how strong chemistry they have with the new transfers. But if we just take the squad qualities into account then we can clearly say that they are one of the number one contenders for the title.

Agree. If we consider the squad quality, Barcelona has a big chance to win the La Liga title or even UCL title. But we don't know how good they play as a team in real matches of La Liga or UCL competition. We need to see how they begins the new season first on some early matches of La Liga or UCL, then we can guess what they can achieve. However, I believe that Xavi has the capability to make the current Barcelona squad plays solidly.

Based on activities in the transfer window, Barcelona looks more active than its competitors I even agree with you Barcelona opens the opportunity to take the title
But somehow some sportsbooks are more favorite Real Madrid Cheesy

for winner Real Madrid @2.15 vs Barcelona @2.35 and Atletico @6.85
At least we have to wait until the middle of the season to see who is closer to the title.

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Quote from: DukeNickle on August 05, 2022, 02:39:27 PM

Barcelona are in a much better condition in terms of the squad quality now but we still haven't watched them in any league game yet. We will find out how strong chemistry they have with the new transfers. But if we just take the squad qualities into account then we can clearly say that they are one of the number one contenders for the title.

Agree. If we consider the squad quality, Barcelona has a big chance to win the La Liga title or even UCL title. But we don't know how good they play as a team in real matches of La Liga or UCL competition. We need to see how they begins the new season first on some early matches of La Liga or UCL, then we can guess what they can achieve. However, I believe that Xavi has the capability to make the current Barcelona squad plays solidly.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on August 05, 2022, 03:48:55 PM

Real Madrid may not need Mbappe at all either. I'm also not sure if Madrid would get much better then, because won't Benzema become a kind of 2nd striker if you let Mbappe play for Madrid too? I think Benzema will be much less in his role then. The most efficient striker is currently at Barcelona. Now that it's there, the title fight can get pretty exciting. Barcelona only has some problems to solve defensively in the back. In that respect, Real Madrid is better, but as said, Barcelona should especially lose points against the low-ranked teams.

That's maybe, commonly there will be only one superstar in a club. But if Mbappe is exactly in Real Madrid, at least they may be able to work and play together. But let it be, Mbappe is not in Real Madrid.
Barcelona only needs time for all players to be common playing in that club entirely. They will adapt as much as possible later. Probably, this is only the starting point, and some players may be still in the new mode and club solidity, so it may not be easy enough to adapt to the new club, moreover with new strategy and game mode.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on August 05, 2022, 02:47:56 PM

Stop talking about something that didn't happen.
They don't add strength? Are you serious about that. So what did they do with Tchouameni and Rudiger there?
They don't add strikers there, but that doesn't mean they aren't strong. See how Rodrygo's progress has been a while ago, don't forget Asensio there who sometimes makes some surprises when Benzema can't explore more.

It does seem that Madrid did not buy many new players, I think it is natural that many people are a little disappointed. In addition, some players do enter old age. But indeed their performance seems to still look good. Maybe this one season they will play well but if it's more than one season I'm not sure either. Like Modric he is still the 3 main midfielders who are irreplaceable. He is already 36 years old. Anceloti should be prepared with his replacement from this season.

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Real Madrid may not need Mbappe at all either. I'm also not sure if Madrid would get much better then, because won't Benzema become a kind of 2nd striker if you let Mbappe play for Madrid too? I think Benzema will be much less in his role then. The most efficient striker is currently at Barcelona. Now that it's there, the title fight can get pretty exciting. Barcelona only has some problems to solve defensively in the back. In that respect, Real Madrid is better, but as said, Barcelona should especially lose points against the low-ranked teams.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 05, 2022, 08:30:17 AM

Indeed, their main asset this season is chemistry and experience which I don't think other clubs in La Liga have. As for the changes made by Barcelona, it will really bother them this season. Some of the players that Barcelona recruited were big names with quality, especially up front. But first I want to see how effective the changes that Barcelona have made.

Having great names and great players means that they have no money left and took a big gamble. If it works out and they win the league, and by some chance end up winning UCL as well, not only they will make this money back, but they will probably make some profit out of it.

But of course, I am not expecting them to win UCL, not even expecting them to be in semi finals to be fair. But, could they win the league title? There is a possibility of that and I do agree that it's something that I would love to see, it's something we haven't seen a while and we do not need another domination by another team, we need a league with many title contenders.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on August 05, 2022, 12:23:54 PM

Barcelona increased their strength but Real Madrid made no effort to increase their strength. Real Madrid wanted to sign Mbappe, but they failed. So they will depend on Benzema's performance in the next season as well. If Benzema and Vini can play well, Real Madrid will definitely try their best to win the title. Madrid's attack depends on these two players.

Stop talking about something that didn't happen.
They don't add strength? Are you serious about that. So what did they do with Tchouameni and Rudiger there?
They don't add strikers there, but that doesn't mean they aren't strong. See how Rodrygo's progress has been a while ago, don't forget Asensio there who sometimes makes some surprises when Benzema can't explore more.

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Quote from: naira on August 05, 2022, 11:05:15 AM

It is natural that the rivalry between the two teams cannot be avoided. When Barcelona have now shown their quality is improving I believe the presence of Barcelona returning to an ideal formation will certainly make Real Madrid wary and do more than what they did last season. These two clubs will improve each other's performance, regardless of which of the two is superior, it will be worthy of being champions. The season is about to start and journey after journey will begin.

So far, Barcelona have made only a lot of noise in the transfer market, but what it can do remains to be seen. It remains to be seen how she, with her financial problems, will pay the salaries of the players, whether she will do it on time, and besides this, there are players to whom Barcelona still has debts. I am rather skeptical about this, I think that financial problems will inflame the situation in the team and this will lower the team spirit. But Real Madrid is doing well and most likely they will dominate La Liga again.

Let me tell you something. Barcelona is not on track to be able to pay the debt. At least not soon enough. It is going to take a lot of time. And the way Barcelona is making big transfers in the transfer market, they are obviously not going to be able to generate enough money in time to pay whatever debt they have.

The logical approach to handling this should have been not to spend too much money for at least three or four years. After that, they could have been in a much better position to pay the debt. They would have been up to $500k in debt by then. At that time, they could have gone for the big move. But now they are just going more and more into debt.

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Barcelona are in a much better condition in terms of the squad quality now but we still haven't watched them in any league game yet. We will find out how strong chemistry they have with the new transfers. But if we just take the squad qualities into account then we can clearly say that they are one of the number one contenders for the title. Honestly I would like to watch a fierce fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid for becoming the champions.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 05, 2022, 12:25:02 PM

Have you heard that Barcelona in the season 22/23 must pay Pique 52 million? Roll Eyes

This amount consists of salary, wage arrears and deferred payments (in fact, Barcelona has already borrowed money from him).
But now management is trying to convince the player to give up some of that money on the grounds that they don't have enough money to sign up newbies Grin

What is this nonsense? Doesn't anyone think this circus is absurd and vile? Huh

At first I thought when they sold some of their shares and broadcasting rights it was to pay and cover some of the arrears there but I feel this is a mistake because they don't seem to intend to do that because they are just shopping and spending regardless of their debts.
No one dares to speak at this time because when they do that, things like Pique feel will happen to other players who ask about salary Cheesy

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I agree that striker is one of the most important positions. Of course you can't have any "bad" players in any positions, I mean we have seen what Maguire did with United and how VVD is with Liverpool so if we look at those then we could say that defender is the most important. But in reality defenders are not the makers or breakers like that usually, those are two marginal differences and thats why it looked like that. In reality, striker is the most important because in order to win you need at least one goal, hopefully more, and we saw many times players like Benzema did last year and how he brought the team to an UCL title.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 05, 2022, 02:07:15 PM

Quote from: fuguebtc on August 05, 2022, 12:23:54 PM

Quote from: naira on August 05, 2022, 11:05:15 AM

It is natural that the rivalry between the two teams cannot be avoided. When Barcelona have now shown their quality is improving I believe the presence of Barcelona returning to an ideal formation will certainly make Real Madrid wary and do more than what they did last season. These two clubs will improve each other's performance, regardless of which of the two is superior, it will be worthy of being champions. The season is about to start and journey after journey will begin.

Barcelona increased their strength but Real Madrid made no effort to increase their strength. Real Madrid wanted to sign Mbappe, but they failed. So they will depend on Benzema's performance in the next season as well. If Benzema and Vini can play well, Real Madrid will definitely try their best to win the title. Madrid's attack depends on these two players.

Are you kidding.
Benzema and Vinicius could not deliver a win without the support of other players. Football is a team game, not individuals, all the players involved in the squad have to put in a good performance to get the win. It is useless Benzema and Vinicius play well and always score goals while the back line is very fragile and easily penetrated by opposing players. I have no doubts about their quality, but the role of other players is also very important in the team.

You don't understand what I mean. Obviously football is a team game. To win, you must play well as a team. But all teams are a little more dependent on the striker to win. Especially the team whose goal is to win the title. If the team was not more dependent on the striker, then the teams would not have paid such a high amount for the experienced striker? A stable squad is definitely needed to win the title. However, if the team fails to score, the team never wins.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 05, 2022, 12:25:02 PM

Have you heard that Barcelona in the season 22/23 must pay Pique 52 million? Roll Eyes

This amount consists of salary, wage arrears and deferred payments (in fact, Barcelona has already borrowed money from him).
But now management is trying to convince the player to give up some of that money on the grounds that they don't have enough money to sign up newbies Grin

What is this nonsense? Doesn't anyone think this circus is absurd and vile? Huh

Actually, I'm not too interested in discussing the club's internal problems or Barcelona's finances so far. They have a problem about their senior player's salary which is still unpaid due to the delay, but they still have to pay it regardless of how Barcelona get around it.

As a Real Madrid supporter, I don't think Barcelona deserve to be called a circus because of the financial problems they are going through, a bit disrespectful because we also have to respect them even though they are rivals. To be honest, I hope all these problems can be solved by Barcelona so that they can register new players this season. For me it's good enough for Laliga and also for Real Madrid because Real Madrid have to get strong competitors to get them to buy a few more players.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on August 05, 2022, 12:23:54 PM

Quote from: naira on August 05, 2022, 11:05:15 AM

It is natural that the rivalry between the two teams cannot be avoided. When Barcelona have now shown their quality is improving I believe the presence of Barcelona returning to an ideal formation will certainly make Real Madrid wary and do more than what they did last season. These two clubs will improve each other's performance, regardless of which of the two is superior, it will be worthy of being champions. The season is about to start and journey after journey will begin.

Barcelona increased their strength but Real Madrid made no effort to increase their strength. Real Madrid wanted to sign Mbappe, but they failed. So they will depend on Benzema's performance in the next season as well. If Benzema and Vini can play well, Real Madrid will definitely try their best to win the title. Madrid's attack depends on these two players.

Are you kidding.
Benzema and Vinicius could not deliver a win without the support of other players. Football is a team game, not individuals, all the players involved in the squad have to put in a good performance to get the win. It is useless Benzema and Vinicius play well and always score goals while the back line is very fragile and easily penetrated by opposing players. I have no doubts about their quality, but the role of other players is also very important in the team.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on August 05, 2022, 01:40:24 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 05, 2022, 12:25:02 PM

Have you heard that Barcelona in the season 22/23 must pay Pique 52 million? Roll Eyes

This amount consists of salary, wage arrears and deferred payments (in fact, Barcelona has already borrowed money from him).
But now management is trying to convince the player to give up some of that money on the grounds that they don't have enough money to sign up newbies Grin

What is this nonsense? Doesn't anyone think this circus is absurd and vile? Huh

Since they both had agreement with the player and agent why breach them own part of the deal by not completely paying pique ? Thier debt should be fixed in which ever way and not to affect players wages and salary.
This ain't fair pique isn't the first player they have asked for deduction although, Frankie De Jong and Busquet. I think pique will do in other to remain at Barcelona but if he doesn't then it's a sign for him to leave Barcelona. But, to be frank, Barcelona are not getting things right with them player's, this should be one of the reasons Dani Alves left Barcelona.

Dani Alves gave a lot of things to Barcelona but he didn't receive proper respect from Barcelona. He is still active and hard working player and he deserves to play at least one season. There was another players to sell but they leave Dani Alves without proper causes.

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Everyone keeps talking about Barcelona having huge money to make signing forgetting that Barcelona had to make significant sacrifices to get that, solid good chunk of their future TV rights and partnerships that they won’t have ordinarily entered, all this was just to solidify the team more. Barcelona are looking to build a stronger team for next season and I can say they have gone all the way in in achieving that.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on August 05, 2022, 01:40:24 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 05, 2022, 12:25:02 PM

Have you heard that Barcelona in the season 22/23 must pay Pique 52 million? Roll Eyes

This amount consists of salary, wage arrears and deferred payments (in fact, Barcelona has already borrowed money from him).
But now management is trying to convince the player to give up some of that money on the grounds that they don't have enough money to sign up newbies Grin

What is this nonsense? Doesn't anyone think this circus is absurd and vile? Huh

Since they both had agreement with the player and agent why breach them own part of the deal by not completely paying pique ? Thier debt should be fixed in which ever way and not to affect players wages and salary.
This ain't fair pique isn't the first player they have asked for deduction although, Frankie De Jong and Busquet. I think pique will do in other to remain at Barcelona but if he doesn't then it's a sign for him to leave Barcelona. But, to be frank, Barcelona are not getting things right with them player's, this should be one of the reasons Dani Alves left Barcelona.

^^ So Barcelona has the money to spend 150 million in the transfer market. Yet, they don't have the money to pay a player who borrowed their money, who has been playing for them and is still playing for them to this date?

And now they are trying to convince him to take less money? When Barcelona started making those transfers this season, I knew that this is not going to end well. I think this is only the start. I just hope that they are able to somehow survive as a club.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 05, 2022, 12:25:02 PM

Have you heard that Barcelona in the season 22/23 must pay Pique 52 million? Roll Eyes

This amount consists of salary, wage arrears and deferred payments (in fact, Barcelona has already borrowed money from him).
But now management is trying to convince the player to give up some of that money on the grounds that they don't have enough money to sign up newbies Grin

What is this nonsense? Doesn't anyone think this circus is absurd and vile? Huh

Since they both had agreement with the player and agent why breach them own part of the deal by not completely paying pique ? Thier debt should be fixed in which ever way and not to affect players wages and salary.
This ain't fair pique isn't the first player they have asked for deduction although, Frankie De Jong and Busquet. I think pique will do in other to remain at Barcelona but if he doesn't then it's a sign for him to leave Barcelona. But, to be frank, Barcelona are not getting things right with them player's, this should be one of the reasons Dani Alves left Barcelona.

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