La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3373.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 01, 2022, 06:58:15 PM

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Come on mate, it's just a friendly match even though they won there but in this case the majority of Madrid players are young players but indeed when you see it it's like a mini elclasico because it seems that Barcelona really intends even with the obstacles and hard tackles there.
This doesn't determine anything really and when I say Madrid's defense can actually be said to be strong but there is still a need for adjustments there because until now Rudiger and Tchouameni in midfield are also still in the adaptation stage and don't have a strong chemistry there.

It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.

Anyone can judge how the Pre-season match, entitled El Clasico, is going. Barcelona started the game by fielding the main squad, while Real Madrid was dominated by substitutes. The final result 1-0 for Barcelona victory cannot be said that Barcelona quality is above Real Madrid, I think Barcelona needs to improve their attacking power to get more goals in other matches, because against team B Real Madrid can only score one goal.

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Quote from: maju69 on August 02, 2022, 04:08:30 AM

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Yeah laporta didn't agree to sell de jong. He was telling de jong to stay in barcelona. The problem is barcelona was feeling difficult to sell their players. Yeah this team sold more shares to buy more players but the financial didn't good. Barcelona must have sold some of its players to meet the rules of financial fair play. In my opinion if barlona was too fast to buy so many players from another club.

After they managed to get the players they really wanted, now they have to consider what is best for the team's finances. Selling players is an option, but so far they haven't really wanted to do it. The transfer market will close soon, so they have to move quickly in making decisions. If not they themselves will be in trouble later.

Barcelona has intention to sell of players but the offers have not yet come from another club. MU was the one who has been betting for de jong but the player was rejecting it. There was a financial fair play rules in the la liga. That's why barcelona must have sold some of its players to comply with the rules in la liga before the season will be started very soon. You must see some barcelona's player like pjanic already agreed with 60% salary cut.
Barcelona was almost cutting salary for all of its player.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 01, 2022, 06:58:15 PM

It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.

Pre-season cannot be an illustration for the next game. I haven't felt any concerns about the players madrid have for next season. They are still capable enough to compete with other teams. Modric, kroos, and Casemiro continue to be Anceloti's top choices. They became the heart of Madrid's game.
Indeed these three players are seniors, anceloti has a tough task if the three of them retire. I hope Anceloti will not be late looking for players so that the champion generation continues and does not make mistakes like Barcelona.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 01, 2022, 07:10:54 AM

It could be like that, but if you look at the friendly match some time ago with all the emotions that were spilled there, it's clear that this will revive things that have been lost for a long time now Grin

The fact is that apart from the competition in the next season that I am waiting for, El Clasico is now one of the things that must be waited for as well because indeed this will be too bad to miss.
The tense friendly match is already hot, what if it's El Clasico later.

El Clasico is a very exciting match in La Liga every season. Moreover, this season Barcelona will have their new star in the El Clasico next season, Lewandowski, which is definitely very interesting to follow. Next season's Laliga will start in 11 days for sure all teams will prepare their squad as well as possible for the upcoming season. such as Valencia are currently trying to get Juventus midfielder Arthur Melo on loan. Atletico Madrid also don't want to be left behind this summer, recently they also expressed interest in Iker Bravo and even they will compete with real madrid for Iker Bravo. promotion club this season like Girona seems they are very ready with the squad last season there are no major changes they did in the transfer window.

Btw, in terms of transfers, I haven't really paid much attention to clubs in La Liga lately because La Liga seems to be passive and doesn't transfer too many players except Barcelona. Unlike clubs in other leagues such as the EPL, where there are some significant changes for each club.
Talking about El Clasico will no doubt be more interesting than before.

Yes, you are right, when it comes to transfers in La Liga, Barcelona dominates. There is no active movement from other teams, Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid almost no movement in my opinion even though there are several players who join. Actually this is not a problem when they are not active in the transfer market. But I think there will be similarities in the game, because it can be said that they will not change their strategy because most of the players who played were players last season.

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Quote from: Google+ on August 01, 2022, 11:44:01 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 01, 2022, 07:10:54 AM

It could be like that, but if you look at the friendly match some time ago with all the emotions that were spilled there, it's clear that this will revive things that have been lost for a long time now Grin

The fact is that apart from the competition in the next season that I am waiting for, El Clasico is now one of the things that must be waited for as well because indeed this will be too bad to miss.
The tense friendly match is already hot, what if it's El Clasico later.

El Clasico is a very exciting match in La Liga every season. Moreover, this season Barcelona will have their new star in the El Clasico next season, Lewandowski, which is definitely very interesting to follow. Next season's Laliga will start in 11 days for sure all teams will prepare their squad as well as possible for the upcoming season. such as Valencia are currently trying to get Juventus midfielder Arthur Melo on loan. Atletico Madrid also don't want to be left behind this summer, recently they also expressed interest in Iker Bravo and even they will compete with real madrid for Iker Bravo. promotion club this season like Girona seems they are very ready with the squad last season there are no major changes they did in the transfer window.

Btw, in terms of transfers, I haven't really paid much attention to clubs in La Liga lately because La Liga seems to be passive and doesn't transfer too many players except Barcelona. Unlike clubs in other leagues such as the EPL, where there are some significant changes for each club.
Talking about El Clasico will no doubt be more interesting than before.

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Quote from: hyudien on August 02, 2022, 03:30:16 AM

You are too skeptical about Barcelona's finances which are quite dark and have passed. If they recruit new players by exceeding the capacity of other clubs, it means that the news you read about Barcelona is really outdated. If we look at Barcelona stealing the spotlight again after a few purchases and he is now negotiating a new deal to get Silva. The logic is that there are things in Barcelona finances that don't leak to the public where they make money.

Barcelona financial situation was indeed at the beginning of the opening of the transfer market reportedly experiencing a financial crisis, but Juan Laporta was able to get an injection of funds through several options, one of which was selling 15% of television rights to Sixth Street and Barcelona also getting an injection of funds from sponsors, so Barcelona could bring in several top player in this transfer market. But until now their finances are also not fully stable because Barcelona still have salary debts to their players. I think if Barcelona have a good trend next season for sure they will be able to improve the club finances and be able to pay off all the salaries that are in arrears. now the steps taken by Juan Reporta are expected to be in bringing Barcelona to success next season, meaning they have invested a lot in the market this summer, at least they have to win the Laliga trophy from Real Madrid.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 02, 2022, 01:41:31 AM

Yeah laporta didn't agree to sell de jong. He was telling de jong to stay in barcelona. The problem is barcelona was feeling difficult to sell their players. Yeah this team sold more shares to buy more players but the financial didn't good. Barcelona must have sold some of its players to meet the rules of financial fair play. In my opinion if barlona was too fast to buy so many players from another club.

After they managed to get the players they really wanted, now they have to consider what is best for the team's finances. Selling players is an option, but so far they haven't really wanted to do it. The transfer market will close soon, so they have to move quickly in making decisions. If not they themselves will be in trouble later.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on August 02, 2022, 02:55:07 AM

De Jong's strong desire to stay at Camp Nou has sparked some controversy regarding his reporting rumors in recent weeks, the refusal to join Man United has drawn a lot of responses from football lovers.
The main obstacle that became the news was the issue of unresolved salary arrears plus the refusal to join Man United, I agree that De Jong is still needed for the Barcelona squad in the future, although at this time Chelsea are interested and open an offer that is very attractive to Barcelona apart from in terms of chealsea financials offer several player options instead.

it will interest me whether de jong is willing to join chealsea which incidentally has a greater chance of winning the league title and will compete in the champions league than joining man united.

I read some dramas related to De Jong transfer For example, De Jong is reluctant to move because Man United is not competing in the Champions League
Then Chelsea came to make an offer well Chelsea should have met the requirements because one of the teams that will compete in the Champions League
There's also news saying that Barcelona hasn't paid his salary yet so he can't move because of that, can we believe this news?

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 01, 2022, 05:17:59 PM

By bringing in players regardless of how their financial condition is now? Or maybe by trying to keep buying time for other clubs who want to sign some of their players?
I still feel this is too bold an act, it's true for their recruitment to do something very good there, but is it really worth the threat of their financial condition getting worse?

You are too skeptical about Barcelona's finances which are quite dark and have passed. If they recruit new players by exceeding the capacity of other clubs, it means that the news you read about Barcelona is really outdated. If we look at Barcelona stealing the spotlight again after a few purchases and he is now negotiating a new deal to get Silva. The logic is that there are things in Barcelona finances that don't leak to the public where they make money.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on August 01, 2022, 10:27:44 PM

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Frenkie de Jong does not want to leave Barcelona, and if Barcelona can overcome their financial crisis, Trey will back away from selling Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong is a very important player for the squad. It is likely that Barcelona will ask some of their high-wage players to reduce their wages. And Frenkie de Jong has long been requested by Barcelona management to cut wages. Frenkie de Jong will likely decide to stay with Barcelona by cutting wages.

De Jong's strong desire to stay at Camp Nou has sparked some controversy regarding his reporting rumors in recent weeks, the refusal to join Man United has drawn a lot of responses from football lovers.
The main obstacle that became the news was the issue of unresolved salary arrears plus the refusal to join Man United, I agree that De Jong is still needed for the Barcelona squad in the future, although at this time Chelsea are interested and open an offer that is very attractive to Barcelona apart from in terms of chealsea financials offer several player options instead.

it will interest me whether de jong is willing to join chealsea which incidentally has a greater chance of winning the league title and will compete in the champions league than joining man united.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 02, 2022, 01:41:31 AM

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 01, 2022, 07:16:17 PM

Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

From the beginning I also saw that one of the options for Barcelona was to sell players who had a high value, and Frenkie de Jong was one of them. Moreover, they will not find it difficult to make an agreement because many teams want to bring him. But here Frenkie de Jong seems reluctant to go, but there is no other choice for him.

Yeah laporta didn't agree to sell de jong. He was telling de jong to stay in barcelona. The problem is barcelona was feeling difficult to sell their players. Yeah this team sold more shares to buy more players but the financial didn't good. Barcelona must have sold some of its players to meet the rules of financial fair play. In my opinion if barlona was too fast to buy so many players from another club.

De Jong should have realized that he had to leave Barcelona, it's a shame a good player like De Jong has a salary reduction there,
it's better to move to Manchester United, rumors Mancherster United will give De Jong the biggest salary there, yes I think it's reasonable,
because if judging by de jong's ability, he could be a good option for the team

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Quote from: maju69 on August 01, 2022, 10:29:24 PM

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Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

From the beginning I also saw that one of the options for Barcelona was to sell players who had a high value, and Frenkie de Jong was one of them. Moreover, they will not find it difficult to make an agreement because many teams want to bring him. But here Frenkie de Jong seems reluctant to go, but there is no other choice for him.

Yeah laporta didn't agree to sell de jong. He was telling de jong to stay in barcelona. The problem is barcelona was feeling difficult to sell their players. Yeah this team sold more shares to buy more players but the financial didn't good. Barcelona must have sold some of its players to meet the rules of financial fair play. In my opinion if barlona was too fast to buy so many players from another club.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on August 01, 2022, 11:52:27 PM

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Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

I agree with you, because Barcelona managements need to end this financial crisis by releasing some players that can help them to get a huge amount of money to bring in new young talented players that can improve their performance in next season. Since many teams are showing interest on de Jong in this season, it will be better for Barcelona managements to use this opportunity to look for the team that want to pay any amount of money to get de Jong into their team. I believe, de Jong prefer Chelsea team because there are many potential squads that can help him to demonstrate his tactics to the world.

Despite his excellent performance, I wonder why some people think he can leave. If he stays, FDJ would be a valuable addition to the team as he plays further forward than the holding role. He should stay and his salary issues should be resolved. I think he is the best midfielder in the league, so he just needs to keep up the good work. The best treatment for him would not to release him in order to survive, and that would not be acceptable.

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Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

I agree with you, because Barcelona managements need to end this financial crisis by releasing some players that can help them to get a huge amount of money to bring in new young talented players that can improve their performance in next season. Since many teams are showing interest on de Jong in this season, it will be better for Barcelona managements to use this opportunity to look for the team that want to pay any amount of money to get de Jong into their team. I believe, de Jong prefer Chelsea team because there are many potential squads that can help him to demonstrate his tactics to the world.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 01, 2022, 07:16:17 PM

Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

From the beginning I also saw that one of the options for Barcelona was to sell players who had a high value, and Frenkie de Jong was one of them. Moreover, they will not find it difficult to make an agreement because many teams want to bring him. But here Frenkie de Jong seems reluctant to go, but there is no other choice for him.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 01, 2022, 07:16:17 PM

Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

Frenkie de Jong does not want to leave Barcelona, and if Barcelona can overcome their financial crisis, Trey will back away from selling Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong is a very important player for the squad. It is likely that Barcelona will ask some of their high-wage players to reduce their wages. And Frenkie de Jong has long been requested by Barcelona management to cut wages. Frenkie de Jong will likely decide to stay with Barcelona by cutting wages.

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Barcelona has no other choice to suppress its financial crisis, one of which is by selling Frenkie de Jong. because currently Frenkie de Jong is a player with a fairly high salary. because if you don't let it go then Barcelona will certainly have difficulty in handling a full salary slot. while Raphinha and Lewandowski need to be listed. and the only way is to sell frenkie de Jong. and now two english clubs are fighting over de jong. namely chelsea and manchester united. but it seems that de jong doesn't want to go to manchester united. and currently chelsea is preparing a high bid to get de jong.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on August 01, 2022, 02:25:52 PM

Come on mate, it's just a friendly match even though they won there but in this case the majority of Madrid players are young players but indeed when you see it it's like a mini elclasico because it seems that Barcelona really intends even with the obstacles and hard tackles there.
This doesn't determine anything really and when I say Madrid's defense can actually be said to be strong but there is still a need for adjustments there because until now Rudiger and Tchouameni in midfield are also still in the adaptation stage and don't have a strong chemistry there.

It is true, Real Madrid didn't release all their main players in that match, while Barcelona played with full key players. Actually, it's an unequal match, Real Madrid seems not really serious to play against Barcelona. Ancellotti may just focus on giving the new players time to play against a strong team. He also wants to know the quality of the substitution players. Based on this matter, surely this match doesn't determine anything. We cannot judge Barcelona already stronger because they can beat Real Madrid by scoring a single goal only.

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Quote from: nurilham on August 01, 2022, 04:57:20 PM

Why it is funny? I don't think it is funny, Xavi has done a great job in this current transfer window. Of course, every player wants to play under Xavi's management, everyone knows Xavi is a great person although he still can't prove his quality as a coach. Seeing positive impacts on Barcelona squad after Xavi becomes Barcelona head coach, I am sure Xavi will be successful this season. They have signed some top players that can bring instant impacts on Barcelona performance. We can see it once Barcelona can beat Real Madrid in a friendly match lately.

By bringing in players regardless of how their financial condition is now? Or maybe by trying to keep buying time for other clubs who want to sign some of their players?
I still feel this is too bold an act, it's true for their recruitment to do something very good there, but is it really worth the threat of their financial condition getting worse?

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on August 01, 2022, 10:38:31 AM

Diego Simeon trying his possible best to make his squad a better one in the new season. Him getting Witsel and Molina is one perfect signing and I thinks these Players will do excellently alright in the team. The Athletico Madrid is presently doing perfectly good after recording a win against Manchester United in their friendly. Perhaps that doesn't determined that they would do better but sounds impressive as Athletico are gradually getting back on their feet. They losing toughing one tough attacker, Luis Suarez to Nacional is big loss for Simeon, however replacement is always there.

They were already good last season, I do not think them making it here would actually cause them to change that much and suddenly hope that they are better, because they were pretty good. I understand that the league situation could have been a bit better but that doesn't change the fact that I am not talking about that here, they were amazing in UCL for a long time and that's understandably good.

This is why I believe that we shouldn't be really shocked to learn that it would be taking a long time before they could get even better. I mean sure they could be slightly better maybe but even that's doubtful, they will probably not be that good at all.

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