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Quote from: nurilham on July 20, 2022, 06:59:08 PM

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Barcelona are continuing with their targets to fill the places in left-back and right-back positions. For left-back position they have been trying to sign Marcos Alonso but there is no development about that transfer lately. If they fail in doing so then their next target is likely to be Sergio Reguilon.

Does Barcelona still have money to buy more players? Huh

To be honest, I doubt Barcelona still has a lot of money right now. They also will experience a problem with players' salaries if they are trying to force signing more top players. They may sign Marcos Alonso for free, but they must pay his salary, right? While Sergio Reguilon, still has a contract with Tottenham until Jun 30, 2025. Tottenham won't let him go and must set an expensive price if the player really wants to leave.

I really don't know how much money they have left now. After spending that much money it really makes me feel like they still have some money left. Because they have completed two transfers for a big amount of money like these were not a big deal at all. You are right about the salary topic too. They must think of their expenses for salaries and bonuses in the future too and act according to that. When it comes to Tottenham's decision I also think that they wouldn't sell him while they are in need of him.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 22, 2022, 02:43:33 AM

I don’t think that Barcelona player’s were demotivated they just didn’t have the right coach, and under Xavi they’re a powerhouse once again. Also not all took a pay cut as some player’s refused last year, and now the veterans are refusing to take another pay cuts and I feel that Barcelona should not pressure them, and they should try and find funds elsewhere.

It's true, Xavi is the coach that Barcelona players need and as a fan I can feel how well he's built the team from the start until now. Xavi needs time to make all Barcelona players understand what he wants, and for his first season in 2021-2022 I can say he was a success.

I can't expect the title to be won easily by Barcelona because honestly I don't think the Barcelona squad is strong enough for last season. But this season I feel better because Barcelona have managed to bring in some players who can certainly increase their title chances. Lewandowski, Raphinha, Kessie, Christensen are new signings this season and I hope they can contribute as much as possible to Barcelona.

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Quote from: nurilham on July 21, 2022, 06:57:36 PM

So, those new players also get a cut of their salary? Or get a lower salary than the expected salary they want?
It is very pity that Barcelona players get a cut of their salaries whereas the club is always trying to add more players. I think it is time to stop buying new players and focus on planning how to increase the players' salaries. Sure, getting a cut in salary may influence the psychology of the players. They may be lazy to play or they may not focus on playing.

Hemm a pay cut can affect the psychology of the players on the field and make them sound stressed?

In this case, if the Barcelona players feel uncomfortable, it can be like what De Jong did. But on the contrary, Barcelona really provides good feedback in designing financial improvements. I think not only Barcelona, but other clubs will also do the same when a club's finances don't reach the target. Simply put, you focus too much on the nominal debt that Barcelona has, but forget the ratio that this club generates per month. Jersey sales, investment business, and funds from donors who are ready to make many offers.

Salary deductions are not carried out by force, meaning that there is a negotiation in it so that an agreement is reached. So, even though some of the players have had their pay cut, they are not psychologically depressed. You also have to know, the new players that Barcelona bring in are basically players who really want to play for Barcelona, meaning they are not forced to choose Barcelona for example like Lewandowski and Rapinha. Both players have a strong desire to play at Barcelona, so they no longer consider the financial factors that are being experienced by Barcelona.

I don’t think that Barcelona player’s were demotivated they just didn’t have the right coach, and under Xavi they’re a powerhouse once again. Also not all took a pay cut as some player’s refused last year, and now the veterans are refusing to take another pay cuts and I feel that Barcelona should not pressure them, and they should try and find funds elsewhere.

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Quote from: yudi09 on July 21, 2022, 11:26:17 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo's character is known as a player who is very ambitious to win various titles every season at the club he plays for and it's undeniable because it shows.
The Champions League was a strong reason behind reports the Portugal captain wanted to leave Old Trafford and Ronaldo was recently linked with Real Madrid.

A number of clubs are reportedly interested in offering him a contract so he can leave Manchester United, but what? The situation is still the same and I think it's still just a rumour. I don't believe he will leave Manchester United although there is always a possibility, I mean Manchester United will definitely try hard to keep him.

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In my opinion, Cristiano Ronaldo's trophy cabinet collection as a football player is not complete because he has never won the UEFA Europa League title. To my knowledge, Ronaldo has not played in a second European competition since changing its name from the UEFA Cup to the UEFA Europe Legue. The last time he played in the competition was when he was named the UEFA Cup in the 2002-2003 season as a professional player with Sporting Lisbon.

That's why I think it will look good for both (Manchester United and Ronaldo) if he chooses to stay.

He stays for one reason and if he leaves for one reason too. Ronaldo is a very ambitious player, he seems dissatisfied with what he has achieved in the past with Manchester United, Real Madrid and Juventus. But he may spend another year on his contract at Manchester United before changing clubs. Staying is an option, but maybe Manchester United should let him go if Ronaldo really doesn't want to be there anymore as was the case with Lewandowski at Bayern Munich.

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So, those new players also get a cut of their salary? Or get a lower salary than the expected salary they want?
It is very pity that Barcelona players get a cut of their salaries whereas the club is always trying to add more players. I think it is time to stop buying new players and focus on planning how to increase the players' salaries. Sure, getting a cut in salary may influence the psychology of the players. They may be lazy to play or they may not focus on playing.

Hemm a pay cut can affect the psychology of the players on the field and make them sound stressed?

In this case, if the Barcelona players feel uncomfortable, it can be like what De Jong did. But on the contrary, Barcelona really provides good feedback in designing financial improvements. I think not only Barcelona, but other clubs will also do the same when a club's finances don't reach the target. Simply put, you focus too much on the nominal debt that Barcelona has, but forget the ratio that this club generates per month. Jersey sales, investment business, and funds from donors who are ready to make many offers.

Salary deductions are not carried out by force, meaning that there is a negotiation in it so that an agreement is reached. So, even though some of the players have had their pay cut, they are not psychologically depressed. You also have to know, the new players that Barcelona bring in are basically players who really want to play for Barcelona, meaning they are not forced to choose Barcelona for example like Lewandowski and Rapinha. Both players have a strong desire to play at Barcelona, so they no longer consider the financial factors that are being experienced by Barcelona.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on July 22, 2022, 12:15:20 AM

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Barcelona are trying to intervene Chelsea's Kounde deal now. They are trying their luck one last time to steal him from Chelsea in the last moment. However it is said that it is difficult for them to offer the same amount Chelsea have offered to him now. I'm not sure about that by the way because Barcelona have been spending a huge amount of money for some time. It is like they can afford everyone right now so we will find out if they will enter the race for Kounde again.

Barcelona managements really prepared well for this season to achieve new young talented squads that will be able to move the team to her next level in next season. Barcelona managements has made a favourable move to signed in some potential players in this season to enable them to perform well in next season. I think, Barcelona managements has the money to offer to the talented players that has a good record from their formal team and they are willing to perform well in any competition. I believe, Barcelona managements still have more interest on kounde just that many teams have interest on him in this season.

what the management of Barcelona has done is beyond the expectations of many people, when they are experiencing a financial crisis and are in so much debt but they continue to be able to bring in new players and also continue to aim until now to build a better team next season, I think it's a very big gamble to be able to reap success next season. this is a very brave thing and very good for the development of the team with what the Barcelona Management is doing.
now the rivalry between Barcelona and Chelsea to get Kounde continues but I think Barcelona will benefit a little because Chelsea have just brought in a new defender from Napoli and that allows them not to be ambitious anymore to get Kunde, while Barcelona are in dire need of defenders for next season, and Kounde are young potential players and that's very good I think.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on July 22, 2022, 12:15:20 AM

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Barcelona are trying to intervene Chelsea's Kounde deal now. They are trying their luck one last time to steal him from Chelsea in the last moment. However it is said that it is difficult for them to offer the same amount Chelsea have offered to him now. I'm not sure about that by the way because Barcelona have been spending a huge amount of money for some time. It is like they can afford everyone right now so we will find out if they will enter the race for Kounde again.

Barcelona managements really prepared well for this season to achieve new young talented squads that will be able to move the team to her next level in next season. Barcelona managements has made a favourable move to signed in some potential players in this season to enable them to perform well in next season. I think, Barcelona managements has the money to offer to the talented players that has a good record from their formal team and they are willing to perform well in any competition. I believe, Barcelona managements still have more interest on kounde just that many teams have interest on him in this season.

hopefully, I have not followed the Barcelona transfer campaign
but to rebuild it is not enough to buy players
it is also necessary to rebuild the leadership and the harmony that existed when it was won and that was obviously lost

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Barcelona are trying to intervene Chelsea's Kounde deal now. They are trying their luck one last time to steal him from Chelsea in the last moment. However it is said that it is difficult for them to offer the same amount Chelsea have offered to him now. I'm not sure about that by the way because Barcelona have been spending a huge amount of money for some time. It is like they can afford everyone right now so we will find out if they will enter the race for Kounde again.

Barcelona managements really prepared well for this season to achieve new young talented squads that will be able to move the team to her next level in next season. Barcelona managements has made a favourable move to signed in some potential players in this season to enable them to perform well in next season. I think, Barcelona managements has the money to offer to the talented players that has a good record from their formal team and they are willing to perform well in any competition. I believe, Barcelona managements still have more interest on kounde just that many teams have interest on him in this season.

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Quote from: nurilham on July 21, 2022, 06:57:36 PM

So, those new players also get a cut of their salary? Or get a lower salary than the expected salary they want?
It is very pity that Barcelona players get a cut of their salaries whereas the club is always trying to add more players. I think it is time to stop buying new players and focus on planning how to increase the players' salaries. Sure, getting a cut in salary may influence the psychology of the players. They may be lazy to play or they may not focus on playing.

Hemm a pay cut can affect the psychology of the players on the field and make them sound stressed?

In this case, if the Barcelona players feel uncomfortable, it can be like what De Jong did. But on the contrary, Barcelona really provides good feedback in designing financial improvements. I think not only Barcelona, but other clubs will also do the same when a club's finances don't reach the target. Simply put, you focus too much on the nominal debt that Barcelona has, but forget the ratio that this club generates per month. Jersey sales, investment business, and funds from donors who are ready to make many offers.

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 21, 2022, 08:03:02 PM

As far as we know, Ronaldo is a player who is very ambitious to win titles in various competitions every season. His desire to be able to play in the Champions League this season failed because Manchester United only qualified for the Europa League, maybe that was good for Manchester United but not necessarily good for Ronaldo.

Cristiano Ronaldo's character is known as a player who is very ambitious to win various titles every season at the club he plays for and it's undeniable because it shows.
The Champions League was a strong reason behind reports the Portugal captain wanted to leave Old Trafford and Ronaldo was recently linked with Real Madrid.

Which is better if Cristiano Ronaldo chooses to stay at Old Trafford and work with Erik ten Hag next season because Manchester United does not play in the UCL or Manchester United only plays in the European League. For me it's good for both.

In my opinion, Cristiano Ronaldo's trophy cabinet collection as a football player is not complete because he has never won the UEFA Europa League title. To my knowledge, Ronaldo has not played in a second European competition since changing its name from the UEFA Cup to the UEFA Europe Legue. The last time he played in the competition was when he was named the UEFA Cup in the 2002-2003 season as a professional player with Sporting Lisbon.

That's why I think it will look good for both (Manchester United and Ronaldo) if he chooses to stay.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on July 21, 2022, 04:19:32 PM

Ronaldo to Arsenal? This is why I don't like following transfer rumors Grin

One of the reasons Ronaldo is said to be unsettled at Manchester United is UCL football. Why would anyone think he would go to Arsenal, that is equally not in the Champion's League this summer?

I also doubt a Real Madrid legend like him would join Atlético Madrid. There is a mutual respect between him and Real Madrid.

Rumors about Ronaldo are getting more and more out of control and more and more absurd to me.
At first it seemed normal but as the news went on the more I had to filter out some rumors in the transfer because there are indeed some clubs that don't even have the qualifications to be linked with Ronaldo.
This becomes quite funny considering in terms of his move he even said clearly, UCL is his target to move and now Arsenal's qualification from where?
I don't understand anymore.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on July 21, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Staying at Manchester United is the best thing for Ronaldo even though he has to accept the fact that he won't be playing in the Champions League.

To be exact, I was thinking the same thing about her current situation. Ronaldo is more likely to choose to stay at Manchester United even though he is not used to playing in the Europa League, imo. But I'm also not saying he would be at fault if he really wanted to play in the Champions League with another team, it's a wish he might keep.

As far as we know, Ronaldo is a player who is very ambitious to win titles in various competitions every season. His desire to be able to play in the Champions League this season failed because Manchester United only qualified for the Europa League, maybe that was good for Manchester United but not necessarily good for Ronaldo.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on July 21, 2022, 04:19:32 PM

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I think Chelsea and Arsenal are still thinking about Cristiano Ronaldo. If that is the case Cristiano Ronaldo is more likely to delay his move to Atletico Madrid.

I also doubt a Real Madrid legend like him would join Atlético Madrid. There is a mutual respect between him and Real Madrid.

Of course, Ronaldo will not move to Atletico and Barcelona as some media reported. Ronaldo is still very much loved by the Santiago Bernabeu public and vice versa, he will not spoil the sweet relationship between the two by joining a rival club. It looks like Atletico and Barcelona will not formalize Ronaldo, and the player will not play for the rival club he has played for. Staying at Manchester United is the best thing for Ronaldo even though he has to accept the fact that he won't be playing in the Champions League.

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Quote from: nurilham on July 21, 2022, 06:57:36 PM

So, those new players also get a cut of their salary? Or get a lower salary than the expected salary they want?
It is very pity that Barcelona players get a cut of their salaries whereas the club is always trying to add more players. I think it is time to stop buying new players and focus on planning how to increase the players' salaries. Sure, getting a cut in salary may influence the psychology of the players. They may be lazy to play or they may not focus on playing.

We all know that the world is going through a terrible economic challenge and football leagues are also affected. Teams would not stop buying new players because they need reinforcements which would enable them compete favorably with other clubs. When the economy was good, players received mouth watery pay, hence they must understand the situation and accept the pay cut in good faith. Most players are used to lavish and luxurious life, hence they might be psychologically affected. Even the best players currently are willing to accept pay cuts to play for their preferred clubs. Any player that is not comfortable with the pay he is receiving should seek for transfer to another club for better pay.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 20, 2022, 10:24:35 PM

Rumors are circulating that players are getting wages that are not full due to a pay cut, this can cause conflict and I'm sure many of their players are still trying to stay but for performance I think from the players I'm not sure because when the salary is not given in full will raise the psychology of those who may have been lazy to fully contribute to Barcelona.

So, those new players also get a cut of their salary? Or get a lower salary than the expected salary they want?
It is very pity that Barcelona players get a cut of their salaries whereas the club is always trying to add more players. I think it is time to stop buying new players and focus on planning how to increase the players' salaries. Sure, getting a cut in salary may influence the psychology of the players. They may be lazy to play or they may not focus on playing.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on July 20, 2022, 09:30:19 PM

it seems that barcelona still hasn't given up on getting this player from sevilla, namely Jules Kounde. And the price he wanted to release Jules Kounde was very high. even now chelsea who also wants Jules Kounde has made an offer of 60 million euros. but it seems that it still has not reached the target price desired by sevilla. so sevilla reportedly gave barcelona time to make a higher bid to get Jules Kounde.

Sevilla has set his price at €65millions. If Chelsea already bid €60million, I think it is very close to the expected price. Ideally, Chelsea and Sevilla almost get an agreement about Kounde transfer fees. I am sure Chelsea wouldn't mind to raise a bit their offer for the deal. Especially when they know Barcelona is also very serious to sign Kounde. Now, it depends on Kounde whether he wants to join Chelsea or Barcelona. If he joins Barcelona, I suspect he will earn a lower salary, but he still can play in the same league. While in Chelsea, he probably earns a higher salary but he must play in a new league. Let's see what his decision is!!

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Quote from: JeromeTash on July 21, 2022, 04:19:32 PM

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I think Chelsea and Arsenal are still thinking about Cristiano Ronaldo. If that is the case Cristiano Ronaldo is more likely to delay his move to Atletico Madrid.

Ronaldo to Arsenal? This is why I don't like following transfer rumors Grin

One of the reasons Ronaldo is said to be unsettled at Manchester United is UCL football. Why would anyone think he would go to Arsenal, that is equally not in the Champion's League this summer?

I also doubt a Real Madrid legend like him would join Atlético Madrid. There is a mutual respect between him and Real Madrid.

Lol yeah the rumor cristiano to arsenal come out of nowhere.

He would simply choose to stay at manchester united instead , he look for more achievements in european competition but the problem is his salary are a sky high one and most club would consider it's not worth it ... if only he look for money only .. he would choose to move to china ... turkey or USA as the club there ready to pay a high salary for him.
Or simply cristiano lowering the salary demand for chelsea , atletico and or must be ready to get benched by the club.
Real madrid rumored as well to close the door for him.

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Barcelona are trying to intervene Chelsea's Kounde deal now. They are trying their luck one last time to steal him from Chelsea in the last moment. However it is said that it is difficult for them to offer the same amount Chelsea have offered to him now. I'm not sure about that by the way because Barcelona have been spending a huge amount of money for some time. It is like they can afford everyone right now so we will find out if they will enter the race for Kounde again.

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As soon as Barcelona received some money, they immediately began to spend it. All of these signings are good in terms of boosting competition in La Liga and giving Barcelona some chance in the Champions League, but what if those spending don't pay off? If we imagine that the next season for Barcelona will be unsuccessful (I assume exactly this), then their financial situation will worsen even more. I wonder what they will sell next time to repay debts.

This is why they are going to lose a ton of money in the future and will never recover as well. They have spent all the money they got so far and that is why they will keep being bad for the longest time since they never really learned their lesson. Think about it, we are talking about a situation where Barcelona ended up having a bit of a money problem right? They made wrong moves and spent a lot of money and that caused them to be in a big loss? Well what are they doing right now? They are literally going to end up with the same thing, they ended up spending soooo much in just one off-season when they should have saved a lot of money in such an important year.

On this occasion, Bayern Munich head coach Julian Nagelsmann spoke beautifully that Barcelona is the only club that has no money, but buys all the players it wants Grin

It's just that Barcelona is trying in every way to remain competitive at the highest rate, so it uses all means to do this. On the other hand, Barcelona remains a big club that wants quick success here and now, and this requires a lot of money. The option when the club loses several years to put its finances in full order obviously will not suit either the club's management or its fans. Therefore, one has only to admire how Barcelona is doing its business now, using the power of its brand at full capacity, but this is very risky and in this way you can drive yourself into a huge deep abyss from which you will then have to get out for a long time.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 20, 2022, 10:24:35 PM

Quote from: nurilham on July 20, 2022, 06:59:08 PM

Does Barcelona still have money to buy more players? Huh

Rumors are circulating that players are getting wages that are not full due to a pay cut, this can cause conflict and I'm sure many of their players are still trying to stay but for performance I think from the players I'm not sure because when the salary is not given in full will raise the psychology of those who may have been lazy to fully contribute to Barcelona.

Actually, Barcelona still needs defenders to strengthen the squad. But yes, they are experiencing financial problems, moreover after signing some big players into the squad recently. But, if they want to add it again to at least strengthen their defense, they may be taking loans?
But I am not sure enough they will increase again their loans.

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