La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3433.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:13 AM

Real Madrid are still silent about making transfers these days. Maybe they are thinking that their current squad is good enough. However I think that they had better sign a promising striker now. Benzema would be the main striker again next season but I think this will stay like this for only that season. After that Real Madrid would prefer a younger and solid centre-forward in his position.

I think they also need a central midfielder to replace Modric. Although Modric still looks very agile, Anceloti needs updating. Benzema is still good but having a potential replacement is not wrong I think it will be profitable to start now. The senior madrid players on average may effectively play 3 years again. Maybe your thoughts are the same as mine, being afraid to start with young players. Madrid will fail in the transition period.

Plus, Real Madrid have already released attacking midfield, Isco this season and maybe it's Luka Modric's turn next season because if I'm not mistaken his contract will expire next June, so Madrid must be prepared to find a replacement, so far only one midfielder Aurelien Tchouameni has been brought in from Monaco. But I still haven't see madrid activity in the transfer market this season, maybe madrid will hold back from sign new players? Only see Rudiger and Tchouameni since a while ago and no update

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 07:40:17 AM

Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

Good news for Barcelona if Dembélé accepted with 40% salary cut off, several senior player in Barcelona not agree what did by management keep cut off their salary above 40%, hard for them losing bigger salary and cut off with higher values. I think if keep adopt for all senior player have chance for Barcelona losing them. Not all Barcelona player agree they need to cut off 40% salary and they will find new team will pay higher salary, after Dembélé who next Barcelona player will agree with cut off 40% salary, will Jordi Alba become next player or actually have Gerrard Pique agree with salary cut off.

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Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

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Apart from Dembele and Raphinha, Barcelona will have Ez Abde, Alex Collado, Ansu Fati, Memphis Depay, Ferran Torres and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang in the attack.

I can't understand this, why is it that Barca, which is in financial trouble and has many strikers, insists on bringing Rapinha to the team? I have a feeling that barca will fail to get Rapinha

they are chasing is to anticipate if Dembele goes to another club but if Dembele is willing to renew his contract of course Barcelona will not chase Rapinha again.
now the Barcelona squad is slowly getting better and they are only aiming for one more Lewandowski to strengthen their attack line.
and regarding their finances I think the team has done a very good job trying to raise fresh funds by selling some of their players to other teams.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:13 AM

Real Madrid are still silent about making transfers these days. Maybe they are thinking that their current squad is good enough. However I think that they had better sign a promising striker now. Benzema would be the main striker again next season but I think this will stay like this for only that season. After that Real Madrid would prefer a younger and solid centre-forward in his position.

I think they also need a central midfielder to replace Modric. Although Modric still looks very agile, Anceloti needs updating. Benzema is still good but having a potential replacement is not wrong I think it will be profitable to start now. The senior madrid players on average may effectively play 3 years again. Maybe your thoughts are the same as mine, being afraid to start with young players. Madrid will fail in the transition period.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 07:40:17 AM

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Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

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Apart from Dembele and Raphinha, Barcelona will have Ez Abde, Alex Collado, Ansu Fati, Memphis Depay, Ferran Torres and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang in the attack.

I can't understand this, why is it that Barca, which is in financial trouble and has many strikers, insists on bringing Rapinha to the team? I have a feeling that barca will fail to get Rapinha

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 10, 2022, 08:56:19 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:13 AM

Real Madrid are still silent about making transfers these days. Maybe they are thinking that their current squad is good enough. However I think that they had better sign a promising striker now. Benzema would be the main striker again next season but I think this will stay like this for only that season. After that Real Madrid would prefer a younger and solid centre-forward in his position.

Yes indeed Benzema will still be the spearhead they will rely on again next season. Surely that's all Real Madrid will do considering Benzema's performances have improved last season. That will be their capital to re-entrust it to Benzema. But I also agree that they should try to bring in young players who can replace Benzema for the future. Because Benzema has also reached old age.

Transfers this season should be good for Madrid. setting up a replacement or partner for Benzema up front will help Benzema not be used too often. I mean, with his current age, of course, the decline in performance will be seen when Benzema has to fight with a very strong opponent's defense.
Looking for a potential youngster to be placed behind Benzema would be a good buy for Madrid in the future. but we haven't seen how Madrid will sign a player as we talked about. Madrid more often recruits players who already have big names.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 10, 2022, 08:12:13 AM

Real Madrid are still silent about making transfers these days. Maybe they are thinking that their current squad is good enough. However I think that they had better sign a promising striker now. Benzema would be the main striker again next season but I think this will stay like this for only that season. After that Real Madrid would prefer a younger and solid centre-forward in his position.

Yes indeed Benzema will still be the spearhead they will rely on again next season. Surely that's all Real Madrid will do considering Benzema's performances have improved last season. That will be their capital to re-entrust it to Benzema. But I also agree that they should try to bring in young players who can replace Benzema for the future. Because Benzema has also reached old age.

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Real Madrid are still silent about making transfers these days. Maybe they are thinking that their current squad is good enough. However I think that they had better sign a promising striker now. Benzema would be the main striker again next season but I think this will stay like this for only that season. After that Real Madrid would prefer a younger and solid centre-forward in his position.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2022, 07:40:17 AM

Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

why does dembele feel cheated if barcelona offer has clearly cost him in terms of wages I mean he should take a pay cut. Barcelona doesn't seem to be putting too much pressure on Dembele to accept their offer. So Dembele decision has been well thought out and both parties have accepted a fair deal. if he felt uncomfortable he certainly wouldn't have signed a new contract. So far there has been no point of agreement between the two parties on the Raphinha issue.

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Quote from: lalabotax on July 09, 2022, 04:46:37 PM

So, finally Barcelona realizes that they still need Dembele. I'm not surprised if Barcelona is eager to extend his contract because Barcelona has no experienced and talented right-winger now. Although I heard the news that Barcelona wants to sign Raphinha, Barcelona is still competing with Chelsea. If they failed to sign Raphinha, they will have no good right-winger next season. So, it is a good idea to have a second plan that renewal the contract of Dembele.

Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 09, 2022, 06:13:59 PM

Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

I agree that Barcelona have the idea that they will bring in these two players, Rafinha and also Dembele, rather than having to choose one between the two. But my question is, will they be able to pay for these two players if they bring in them? Again and again I was struck by the thought that Barcelona was in trouble.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 10, 2022, 02:31:23 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on July 09, 2022, 10:51:39 PM

I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.

Barcelona will get nothing if Dembele leave because he is free agent status and indeed the biggest issue from Dembele is injured and disciplinary that's why during last season he only play 21 times but do not forget Dembele is the most top assists in Barcelona with 13 assists i think it proven that he can playing well almost for each matches and the latest rumours is he is willing to cut off his salary for 40% if Barcelona extended his contract so instead of buying new players which is will spend a lot of money i think extended contracts the current players is more wise

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I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.

Yes Barcelona have done it, but it seems too hasty because let Dembele go without a club, they have to be able to wait a bit to get offers from other clubs to bring in income for Barcelona.
This season barcelona released two players without bringing benefits to the club, Alves and Dembele. Both have officially left Barcelona and are now without a club

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Quote from: W Jr. on July 09, 2022, 10:51:39 PM

I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.

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Quote from: OcTradism on July 09, 2022, 08:09:42 AM

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It's more acceptable because if I compare Rafinha and Dembele, I also prefer Rafinha to fill the void. Especially now that Rafinha is one of the players that many other clubs are looking for, as you said, it means that Rafinha has the ability to become a special attraction for clubs that are interested in him. But back again will Barcelona move as many want or vice versa.

By any mean, Barcelona successfully to convince Dembele to stay. It is big surprise as Dembele revealed he want to leave and Barcelona did not make any enough good offer for him. In the end, they have a deal and Dembele will not move to anywhere.

If you compare between Dembele and Rafinha. Dembele is better as he has a few seasons in Barcelona so he has enough time there. In the past season, he has a first good season in Barcelona.

I have just read some news about this and the reports are true that Dembele is ready to sign a new contract with Barcelona and that he will be at Barcelona until 2025.
Don't know what their current salary agreement is but when the agreement was started there it was reported that Dembele had to be willing to take a pay cut if he wanted to return to Barcelona's uniform.

In terms of performance for the last few seasons, it is clear that Raphinha has more good things considering that for the last few seasons at Barcelona Dembele has not been able to play well.

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Dembele may be a good dribbler, a talented player, but he is not successful at Barcelona. He could not adapt to the Barcelona team. Last season he had 21 chances to play in Barcelona, but managed to score only one goal. Since Dembele's understanding with other Barcelona players are not good, it is not surprising that Barcelona decided to sell Dembele. Raphinha will probably perform better than Dembele with the Barcelona team.

Ousmane Dembele current status as a free transfer player is because Ousmane Dembele has not given a definite answer about his future with Barcelona after his contract expires. from various sources that I read where barcelona has made an offer to extend a new contract for Ousmane Dembele but on the condition that he must accept a lower salary than before because Barcelona are experiencing a financial crisis. that's why Ousmane has not answered whether he will accept a new contract or he will choose to leave Barcelona.

Many players will not accept a new offer that is lower than the previous offer. Only legendary players in teams such as Maldini, Chiellini, Totti act brave enough to sacrifice themselves. I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 09, 2022, 10:15:29 PM

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

Alemany prefer to sign a contract for rapinha rather than dembele. The problem is if xavi is prefer dembele over rapinha. I thought that if this will become a very difficult decision to be taken. As far as i know that if chelsea was also aiming for the dambele to join in the blues.
The very difficult decision for both xavi and alemany. if both were still being so harsh with their own decision im sure that dembele will be going to the chelsea.

Barcelona's situation is difficult in this transfer window because it would be better for Barcelona to prioritize overcoming their financial problems, at least by starting to pay off debt because that is the most important thing. At this moment there are also many great players who want to play for Barcelona, but because of the situation and the conditions are not good I think Barcelona should start to solve the problem first and not continue to buy players at high prices. Barcelona might be able to buy players but Barcelona might start talking about salaries with old players who might get a pay cut, cases like this won't make the team any better.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 09, 2022, 06:13:59 PM

Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

Alemany prefer to sign a contract for rapinha rather than dembele. The problem is if xavi is prefer dembele over rapinha. I thought that if this will become a very difficult decision to be taken. As far as i know that if chelsea was also aiming for the dambele to join in the blues.
The very difficult decision for both xavi and alemany. if both were still being so harsh with their own decision im sure that dembele will be going to the chelsea.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 09, 2022, 06:13:59 PM

Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

it would be great if could get both. while for Dembele whose contract officially ended on June 30 yesterday. and it looks like the contract will be extended. because each team wants to keep Dembele. And now it seems Dembele has officially extended his contract again. Even Dembele agrees with the issue of his salary adjustment. I myself see that Dembele is still very much needed by Barcelona.

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now. As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

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