La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3452.

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In the world of football today, you have to be financially bouyant to have big stars in a team because of their huge wages and long term contracts. Barcelona have been battling through financial struggles for years now and cannot maintain big names at the moment. Last season they had to cut a lot of wages and even caused them losing Lionel Messi to PSG. They will need some strategies to get quality players that will help them to compete in the league at a high level and maintain their legacy as one of Spain's finest

in this case a long-term strategy is needed
I would like to give the example of Atalanta who for years has been up and down from Serie B to Serie A
in the meantime they built starting from the youth teams, having no money
now they arrive peacefully in UCL (not this year) where there is the money.
the only way to rise again is this, to invest in young people

Barcelona had to wait for a longer time and not spend too much money right now because their financial situation is too bad. And the way they are going about it is not going to help at all. A long-term plan is certainly the way to go for Barcelona but it feels like they are looking for a lot more short-term solutions. And I also think that Barcelona should invest in youth players right now. That will help them to really build up players for the future and they will also be loyal to the club.

if they are focusing on a long term solution something like keeping everything as it is currently not signing any more players and sticking with the players they currently have to manage their finances well, they won't be able to win the league, they won't be able to to get far in the champions league and with that they will be a club with less attraction worldwide and less attraction means that TV channels and newspapers and sponsors are not wasting their time going after barcelona, but if they invest money in good players and manage to win la league and go far in champions league then they will be able to earn more money too

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 01, 2022, 05:46:21 PM

Atletico Madrid might face some problems with the striker quality in the team right now. Actually they have quite many strikers but I don't know how many of them would be really productive. Matheus Cunha is a promising striker actually and I wonder if Simeone is planning to start with him from now on after Luis Suarez's departure. He has preferred a formation in which there have been two strikers. Suarez's place needs to be filled in the end. There are Morata and Griezmann too of course but I don't trust them in the starting eleven too much anymore.

I think Atletico Madrid has many talented/skilled attackers who have a lot of experience. If they didn't really productive in the last season, it may be caused by the wrong strategy or tactics. Simeone needs to choose the right strategy or tactics that can fit with Atletico players, especially for those attackers. And Simeone must improve the players' mentality and motivation, so they can play more aggressively on the field. Morata, Griezmann, Cunha, and other attackers are enough, they don't need new attackers.

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Atletico Madrid might face some problems with the striker quality in the team right now. Actually they have quite many strikers but I don't know how many of them would be really productive. Matheus Cunha is a promising striker actually and I wonder if Simeone is planning to start with him from now on after Luis Suarez's departure. He has preferred a formation in which there have been two strikers. Suarez's place needs to be filled in the end. There are Morata and Griezmann too of course but I don't trust them in the starting eleven too much anymore.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 01, 2022, 03:43:34 PM

Benzema's performance in the 20/21 season was good also but it wasn't even close to the previous season though. He scored 44 goals and got 15 assists in 46 matches. This is really huge statistics for a player who is 34 years old now. I also am curious about his performance next season. I won't blame him if he doesn't perform close to this one as he did his best for the team last season without a doubt. But if Real Madrid don't sign a striker that can replace Benzema with his performance then they would rely on Benzema's goals again.

Benzema made the history with Real Madrid this season and the club is preparing a big celebration once he gets officially the Ballon d'Or.
I think Ancelotti will count on the captain in the upcoming season too since he let Jovic join Fiorentina for a one year loan and he is focusing on boosting the defence line of the club with Rudiger and Tchouameni.

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I would say Real Madrid need to find a replacement for Benzema right now. Benzema is one of the best strikers in the world. But if Benzema is sidelined with an injury next season, Real Madrid will not be able to replace him. So if Real Madrid want to win the title next season, they must have an experienced striker.

Well, to be fair that is why they have Luka Jovic. Not that he played much, but he played in 15 La Liga games and he had even 3 UCL games as well. For a total of 550 minutes though, so not a lot of minutes. In the end he is not there for the future of Real Madrid and their "next big thing", he is just a bench player that would replace Benzema in case of an injury, or just if he is tired or something.

Luka Jovic and Mariano do not get enough play time, so I would understand why their respective forms are at an all-time low. Replacing Benzema right now will be very hard. His partnership with Vinicius is top-notch. When one of the two does not play, the other tends to struggle.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on July 01, 2022, 01:20:44 PM

I would say Real Madrid need to find a replacement for Benzema right now. Benzema is one of the best strikers in the world. But if Benzema is sidelined with an injury next season, Real Madrid will not be able to replace him. So if Real Madrid want to win the title next season, they must have an experienced striker.

Well, to be fair that is why they have Luka Jovic. Not that he played much, but he played in 15 La Liga games and he had even 3 UCL games as well. For a total of 550 minutes though, so not a lot of minutes. In the end he is not there for the future of Real Madrid and their "next big thing", he is just a bench player that would replace Benzema in case of an injury, or just if he is tired or something.

Other than that, they still do need a young player who would replace Benzema in the future when Benzema retires or just not good enough. It would be quite high price to get a player like that, so I sort of understand why they are not doing that, it would be taking tens of millions of dollars to get a generational talent at young age.

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Quote from: omgitsmehehe on June 30, 2022, 06:33:04 PM

Yeah I agree with you, Realmadrid defence recently is known as one of the strongest defend in Europe, with the addition of rudiger the team defence looks more stronger than before. The only thing the team is lacking this summer is a center forward, perhaps they have one outstanding forward which is Benzema, but they really needs to bring one quality and experience attacker that can help the team in the absent of Benzema.

That is right and they may be still considering this. I am sure that they will do their best this season for the transfer. For, other clubs especially Barcelona is also trying their best effort to come up with a stronger squad in the next season. Next season will be harder and harder, moreover for the next UCL.

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Barcelona had to wait for a longer time and not spend too much money right now because their financial situation is too bad. And the way they are going about it is not going to help at all. A long-term plan is certainly the way to go for Barcelona but it feels like they are looking for a lot more short-term solutions. And I also think that Barcelona should invest in youth players right now. That will help them to really build up players for the future and they will also be loyal to the club.

This is what happen right now in Barcelona, the financial problem becomes the main problem in the club that can be challenging for the squad to come ups tornger. This is too bad for the kind of big club like Barcelonapreviously.

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Benzema's performance in the 20/21 season was good also but it wasn't even close to the previous season though. He scored 44 goals and got 15 assists in 46 matches. This is really huge statistics for a player who is 34 years old now. I also am curious about his performance next season. I won't blame him if he doesn't perform close to this one as he did his best for the team last season without a doubt. But if Real Madrid don't sign a striker that can replace Benzema with his performance then they would rely on Benzema's goals again.

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Benzema was in peak form last season. And I hope he will be able to carry on with the same form in the next season. I don’t know if Robert Lewandowski wants to prove anything like being better than Benzema but he certainly doesn't wanna stay in Bayern Munich.

Hopefully, I will also have high expectations for Benzema and also Real Madrid. Although it may not be easier for the next season because we know that Barcelona is now really struggling to improve their squad and also performance. The next season's matches will be more interesting and exciting than previously I think. Moreover if Lewandowski really comes to Barcelona, this will be more exciitng to see the comeptition right?

It will be really interesting if Robert Lewandowski comes to Barcelona but I really don’t think Barcelona should bring Robert Lewandowski in at the expense of 50 million. Because Robert Lewandowski is going to be good only for two or a maximum of three years. And that is not worth 50 million even if they win the league title twice in these years. But if Barcelona actually gets Robert Lewandowski in the team it will be really interesting to see which player does better, Benzema or Lewandowski.

Lewandowski is undoubtedly a fantastic player, not every striker scores this much goals like lewandowski these days. If Barcelona succeed in getting lewandowski on their side it will be good for the club getting a world class striker who can guarantee them 25 to 30 goals per season. The Laliga will be very interesting to watch and the El clasico rivalry will intense again having lewandowski and benzema on both sides.

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So I took my time to meditate on Lewandoski.
What are the reasons for moving to Barcelona ? He has it all at Bayern Munich, no competition comes for him in that position, he's won all the trophies necessarily needed for a player at the club side. So why push for an exit ?
The Ballon d'or came inner my mind immediately. Looking both at Messi and Ronaldo, ( Having won the last Ten of the Ballon d'or ). With Karim Benzema's contribution this season,he is the top favorite for the award.

So going to Barcelona can win him the Ballon d'or, he is one of the worlds best scorer's in goal. The Spanish La Liga wouldn't be a toxic one to adapt too. I'm tipping Lewandoski to win the Champions League if he does moves to Barcelona. What you think ?

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Benzema was in peak form last season. And I hope he will be able to carry on with the same form in the next season. I don’t know if Robert Lewandowski wants to prove anything like being better than Benzema but he certainly doesn't wanna stay in Bayern Munich.

Hopefully, I will also have high expectations for Benzema and also Real Madrid. Although it may not be easier for the next season because we know that Barcelona is now really struggling to improve their squad and also performance. The next season's matches will be more interesting and exciting than previously I think. Moreover if Lewandowski really comes to Barcelona, this will be more exciitng to see the comeptition right?

It will be really interesting if Robert Lewandowski comes to Barcelona but I really don’t think Barcelona should bring Robert Lewandowski in at the expense of 50 million. Because Robert Lewandowski is going to be good only for two or a maximum of three years. And that is not worth 50 million even if they win the league title twice in these years. But if Barcelona actually gets Robert Lewandowski in the team it will be really interesting to see which player does better, Benzema or Lewandowski.

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Quote from: babo on July 01, 2022, 01:39:38 AM

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In the world of football today, you have to be financially bouyant to have big stars in a team because of their huge wages and long term contracts. Barcelona have been battling through financial struggles for years now and cannot maintain big names at the moment. Last season they had to cut a lot of wages and even caused them losing Lionel Messi to PSG. They will need some strategies to get quality players that will help them to compete in the league at a high level and maintain their legacy as one of Spain's finest

in this case a long-term strategy is needed
I would like to give the example of Atalanta who for years has been up and down from Serie B to Serie A
in the meantime they built starting from the youth teams, having no money
now they arrive peacefully in UCL (not this year) where there is the money.
the only way to rise again is this, to invest in young people

Barcelona had to wait for a longer time and not spend too much money right now because their financial situation is too bad. And the way they are going about it is not going to help at all. A long-term plan is certainly the way to go for Barcelona but it feels like they are looking for a lot more short-term solutions. And I also think that Barcelona should invest in youth players right now. That will help them to really build up players for the future and they will also be loyal to the club.

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From the gestures and words of Lewandowski some time ago it was clear he wanted to be at Barcelona and he even seemed to close himself off from other clubs like Chelsea and even some issues about Madrid.
And seeing that he has clearly said he wants to leave Bayern then I think what you said about ending another season at Bayern is a difficult one.

Lewandowski has openly said that he wants to play for Barcelona next season and Barcelona have offered Lewandowski but the price is still not suitable until now, Bayern have refused.
and regarding Barcelona's financial problems I think they have now tried hard to solve it including selling some of their players so that they can be used to bring in other players.
With Lewandowski's desire too big to play for Barcelona next season I think it will be a bit easy for the Barcelona team to get him.

Indeed this would be easier provided they have the money to pay the full release clause there but the problem is they are currently hard to get that money.
It would be pointless if they wanted but they don't have the money because Bayern have made it clear that they will not allow Lewandowski to leave if the price and full price deal are not met.

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 01, 2022, 12:57:47 PM

I think the odds are still 50:50 between done deal or not. Barcelona may start to turn their attention to other players and Raphinha who is currently still one of the Leeds United players. The situation of Barcelona and Lewandowski only really depends on Barcelona's financial condition and also the considerations of Bayern Munich. If Bayern Munich agrees with Barcelona's offer then maybe this transfer is now a deal, but so far progress has been very slow.

Bayern Munich didn't seem to want Lewandowski to leave so the offer from Barcelona was slowed down, but I can see from the news that Lewandowski is getting more and more annoyed that he wasn't given the leeway to move so he's going on strike so he can be rejected from Bayern Munich. Is this way Lewandowski can go to Barcelona?
Indeed, Lewandowski's transfer deal was a bit tighter, while on the other hand Lewandowski insisted on leaving with several offers from Barcelona rejected, but Bayern wanted him anyway.

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Real Madrid already has 2 strong center-backs now, Rudiger and Alaba. For the substitution, they have Militao, Nacho, and Vallejo. They have enough center-backs, there is no need for another new center-back. What Real Madrid needs is surely strikers, center-forward. They only have 1 strong CF, Benzema. While Diaz and Jovic are weak strikers, and seem to leave Real Madrid in this transfer window. Real Madrid is in urgent for new center-forwards, they will be in trouble if have no substitution for Benzema.

As City's experience shows, with a strong midline, you can play without a center forward at all and this will not affect performance. Another thing is that Real Madrid plays a different football and it would be nice to have a second striker in the team of the level of Benzema, but this is unrealistic - Benzema is actually the best striker in the world and buying a player of this caliber will cost ~ 150-200 million. I'm not sure that Real need such spending.

I would say Real Madrid need to find a replacement for Benzema right now. Benzema is one of the best strikers in the world. But if Benzema is sidelined with an injury next season, Real Madrid will not be able to replace him. So if Real Madrid want to win the title next season, they must have an experienced striker.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on July 01, 2022, 10:58:45 AM

How long will the Lewandowski transfer rumors continue, in fact Bayern Munich has rejected three offers from Barcelona. It looks like Bayern Munich has no intention of releasing Lewandowski even though they have officially signed Sadio Mane from Liverpool. No need to talk too much about Lewandowski, Until now there has been no agreement in the transfer process for Lewandowski's transfer, it is very likely that Lewandowski will stay at Bayern Munich until his contract runs out.

Right now this is big question in all people's mind what's going on because both parties were agreed for cooperation and Bayern Munich was also having all things settled for this transfer but suddenly their wired rejection is creating big question.

Maybe this is tactical or mind game from Bayern Munich as they don't want to give free hand to Barcelona for next season in Champions League because with this their attack could be lethal, and they can destroy any team with Auba and few more youngsters are already having good impact with their performance or now Bayern Munich is not feeling good with this transfer even they have their desired payment from Barcelona if they will not accept this then surely in next season he could be free agent.

Bayern Munich has no financial problem, so maybe they are not allowing to him for this season many questions but no solid reply.

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Quote from: lalabotax on June 30, 2022, 04:50:50 PM

Real Madrid already has 2 strong center-backs now, Rudiger and Alaba. For the substitution, they have Militao, Nacho, and Vallejo. They have enough center-backs, there is no need for another new center-back. What Real Madrid needs is surely strikers, center-forward. They only have 1 strong CF, Benzema. While Diaz and Jovic are weak strikers, and seem to leave Real Madrid in this transfer window. Real Madrid is in urgent for new center-forwards, they will be in trouble if have no substitution for Benzema.

As City's experience shows, with a strong midline, you can play without a center forward at all and this will not affect performance. Another thing is that Real Madrid plays a different football and it would be nice to have a second striker in the team of the level of Benzema, but this is unrealistic - Benzema is actually the best striker in the world and buying a player of this caliber will cost ~ 150-200 million. I'm not sure that Real need such spending.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 01, 2022, 11:07:53 AM

Quote from: zaim7413 on July 01, 2022, 10:58:45 AM

How long will the Lewandowski transfer rumors continue, in fact Bayern Munich has rejected three offers from Barcelona. It looks like Bayern Munich has no intention of releasing Lewandowski even though they have officially signed Sadio Mane from Liverpool. No need to talk too much about Lewandowski, Until now there has been no agreement in the transfer process for Lewandowski's transfer, it is very likely that Lewandowski will stay at Bayern Munich until his contract runs out.

the problem is that Lewandowski wants to leave Munich. and it looks like Munich is making it too difficult for him to leave. this may indeed be related to business, but wouldn't it be bad if in the future Lewandowski would not renew his contract. even Lewandowski can be a free transfer when his contract with Munich finishes.
I don't know why Munich did that. because it can affect Lewandowski's performance next season.

Surely now this current situation is not good for Lewandowski and Barcelona because both parties are desperate, but suddenly this unsporting behavior from Bayern Munich is going to have big impact on these all specially it's not good for themselves because with this Lewandowski performance is also going to have some negative impact which is not good for them as he was prepared for this transfer and all was set, but suddenly this blockage is not good.

Even Barcelona is also having some good and quality players but with this transfer they want to have some solid things for next season which can give them better revenue which is also essential for them better future.

Hopefully we will have some positive news about this all in coming weeks because still very long way to go for start of new season.

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Quote from: ShowOff on July 01, 2022, 12:57:47 PM

I think the odds are still 50:50 between done deal or not. Barcelona may start to turn their attention to other players and Raphinha who is currently still one of the Leeds United players. The situation of Barcelona and Lewandowski only really depends on Barcelona's financial condition and also the considerations of Bayern Munich. If Bayern Munich agrees with Barcelona's offer then maybe this transfer is now a deal, but so far progress has been very slow.

So far, Barcelona are not doing very well in the transfer market, they failed to renew Dembele's contract, which for Barcelona when it cost a huge amount of 140 million, this is perhaps a very insulting loss for the club. The main and perhaps the only reason, Dembele wanted a big salary, but Barcelona cannot afford it now. And for Lewandowski, Bayern intends to receive the amount that they originally requested, no concessions.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 01, 2022, 09:39:15 AM

The risk of Lewandowski playing below expectations in my opinion is small, yes there is a possibility, I can't deny that. But if a player has very high ambitions for one club, he definitely gives everything he can. Because if you see Lewandowski's desire to join Barcelona, it is very passionate. That's a plus for him in my opinion.

I think the odds are still 50:50 between done deal or not. Barcelona may start to turn their attention to other players and Raphinha who is currently still one of the Leeds United players. The situation of Barcelona and Lewandowski only really depends on Barcelona's financial condition and also the considerations of Bayern Munich. If Bayern Munich agrees with Barcelona's offer then maybe this transfer is now a deal, but so far progress has been very slow.

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