La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3516.

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It seems that the latest news suggests that Real and Tchouameni have already agreed, but PSG intervened and is now participating in the fight for the player. Monaco is trying to increase the price and Real Madrid are trying to lower it (because they already have an agreement with the player). I wonder why PSG is interfering here? Just to hurt a competitor? Or did they decide to buy everyone just to weaken Real Madrid?

PSG's squad has a lot of talented and star players. At the moment I don't see any need for them to buy any new players. I think they are doing this to weaken Real Madrid. However, Aurélien Tchouaméni is a very talented player. PSG will not face any loss with him on the team. Because he is still young. However, PSG should invest in young players by selling a few players this season.

I wonder how PSG at least formally manages to "squeeze" into the FFP framework. To renew the contract with Mbappe they spent approximately 300 million (signing bonus plus salary) and continue to spend money right and left. The president of La Liga promised to punish them for this, but with the support of corrupt UEFA officials, PSG will again get away with it Angry

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Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

Barcelona are not a weak team. But after Messi left the team, all the dominance in La Liga passed to Real Madrid. Barcelona used to play like a machine, now they are trying systems that aim to save the day. This creates an image in people's minds that Barcelona have turned into a weak team. We are going through a difficult time for Barcelona fans.

Regardless, at the start of last season they did the wrong thing and this stigma started when Koeman was absurd in coaching.
I'm pretty sure the stigma of a weak Barcelona will continue when they don't sack Koeman at that time and it's not impossible if Koeman is kept we can see Barcelona in a bad position at this time.
As for saying Barcelona are not a weak team I quite agree but they are not a strong team either now

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 06, 2022, 10:54:21 AM

Quote from: Gosgosking on June 06, 2022, 05:56:18 AM

Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

Barcelona are not a weak team. But after Messi left the team, all the dominance in La Liga passed to Real Madrid. Barcelona used to play like a machine, now they are trying systems that aim to save the day. This creates an image in people's minds that Barcelona have turned into a weak team. We are going through a difficult time for Barcelona fans.

Barcelona is simply at an end of cycle. They should restart with a new cycle, and I guess that the direction that they has taken is right. Barcelona will do great things in the next years, players of team are really good and also

the manager (Xavi) has done great things in this season. I like team and I also guess that the next season Barcelona will be a serious competitor of Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on June 06, 2022, 05:56:18 AM

Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

Barcelona are not a weak team. But after Messi left the team, all the dominance in La Liga passed to Real Madrid. Barcelona used to play like a machine, now they are trying systems that aim to save the day. This creates an image in people's minds that Barcelona have turned into a weak team. We are going through a difficult time for Barcelona fans.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 06, 2022, 10:16:59 AM

Quote from: Luzin on June 06, 2022, 10:06:32 AM

Next season the Spanish league doesn't seem like there will be any big star players coming in, so the competition is still the same as last season. I'm just worried about some of the madrid players getting old and a lot leaving.

This is a reference for Barcelona in making pretty good repairs. At the moment Real Madrid are in a state that is quite a bit confused to fill the old formation that will no longer be too competent. Real Madrid obviously has to be wary of the rise of Barcelona next season. This will not be underestimated the Europa League is actually very wide open for Barcelona.

What do you mean by confusion for Real Madrid? right now I still feel that they are now even stronger than before.
When looking at last season they only lacked in the back line which did not seem coherent and there were still gaps in defense but now they have brought in Rudiger to strengthen there.
on the other hand they also still need a striker to coat Benzema because they are worried that he will be in trouble when he continues to be used as a reference and that's all now the work has to be done.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on June 05, 2022, 03:43:46 PM

Xavi left a good impression last season. He has achieved the maximum possible, higher than a 2nd place was not conceivable. It is actually a miracle that he came in 2nd, because when Koeman was at the helm it had become a big mess, we can compete. Maybe there will be some purchases in the summer to see an even better Barcelona next season. They have a good chance of getting the title.

Xavi's present in Barcelona is a big miracle to the team, if it was Koeman who still remain to be Barcelona coach the would have be one of the weakest team in the laliga league. I trust xavi what he will do for Barcelona next season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 06, 2022, 10:16:59 AM

Quote from: Luzin on June 06, 2022, 10:06:32 AM

Next season the Spanish league doesn't seem like there will be any big star players coming in, so the competition is still the same as last season. I'm just worried about some of the madrid players getting old and a lot leaving.

This is a reference for Barcelona in making pretty good repairs. At the moment Real Madrid are in a state that is quite a bit confused to fill the old formation that will no longer be too competent. Real Madrid obviously has to be wary of the rise of Barcelona next season. This will not be underestimated the Europa League is actually very wide open for Barcelona.

For star players maybe we won't see it next season in La Liga unless Lewandowski and Mappe complete their move to La Liga this year, but I think the lack of star players will not affect the competition between teams in La Liga, yes maybe there will be some teams that will again dominate next season like the madrid and barcelona duo, but interestingly we will see how Xavi is able to continue the positive trend of barcelona later and if this positive trend can be maintained next season we will certainly see competitive competition between barcelona and madrid happen again, so far the squad Barcelona and Madrid are no different in my opinion, because both are still inhabited by some old players and I think Madrid only need 2 or 3 new players who play as central midfielders to replace old players who play as central midfielders.

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There are many factors that Koeman considered a failure in managing Barcelona. Especially in terms of money management, Koeman spends too much on less productive players. And when replaced by Xavi we see money savings by taking advantage of the portion of players who are quite qualified. Therefore, Koeman is considered wasteful and does not prioritize the quality of the players. Now in Xavi hands, we see a lot of positive changes that could have made a difference when Barcelona was under Koeman.

I agree with you.
Koeman is too obsessed with players from his country, you can see for yourself, when Koeman coached Barcelona, many Dutch players were recruited, even though the players themselves lacked potential when they were in Barcelona's uniform.
but in Xavi's hands there are plenty of sensible signings, and indeed what the team really needs. And it's been proven that under Xavi Barcelona's performance has improved so much that at the end of the season it has been ranked second in the standings.

With very minimal finances, Xavi was able to form a team that could rise from adversity. He can be said to be a smart coach by implementing rules that fine his players if they act not according to the rules he sets. The result is that players become more disciplined, from there Xavi can slowly form the team he wants. His firmness in applying the rules was one of the factors that made him successful.

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Quote from: Luzin on June 06, 2022, 10:06:32 AM

Next season the Spanish league doesn't seem like there will be any big star players coming in, so the competition is still the same as last season. I'm just worried about some of the madrid players getting old and a lot leaving.

This is a reference for Barcelona in making pretty good repairs. At the moment Real Madrid are in a state that is quite a bit confused to fill the old formation that will no longer be too competent. Real Madrid obviously has to be wary of the rise of Barcelona next season. This will not be underestimated the Europa League is actually very wide open for Barcelona.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 06, 2022, 09:10:50 AM

There are many factors that Koeman considered a failure in managing Barcelona. Especially in terms of money management, Koeman spends too much on less productive players. And when replaced by Xavi we see money savings by taking advantage of the portion of players who are quite qualified. Therefore, Koeman is considered wasteful and does not prioritize the quality of the players. Now in Xavi hands, we see a lot of positive changes that could have made a difference when Barcelona was under Koeman.

I think at the time Koeman didn't have many alternative options. Barcelona's finances are bad, koeman has to throw away some good players who are not in line with him to save costs. But Koemen's decision became the killer weapon of Koeman's career in Barcelona. He couldn't display Barcelona to the fullest. Xavi's arrival slightly improved koeman's football philosophy could not go on. In addition, Xavi was also helped by the arrival of Auba and Adama.
Next season the Spanish league doesn't seem like there will be any big star players coming in, so the competition is still the same as last season. I'm just worried about some of the madrid players getting old and a lot leaving.

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It is a sure thing that Barcelona would have been even the champions in the Europa League this season if they played properly but they didn't. They just didn't give the same importance that they did to the La Liga. I understand this of course as its quality is no match for a team like Barcelona. However I still think they should have still gone for the Europa League championship. Because at least they would have finished the season with a decent championship. They just let the chance slip away from their hands while playing against a weaker team in fact.

I think, Barcelona will definitely get it right next season, because their coach will not allow what happened this season to happen in next season than to introduce more strategies that will help the team to sustain victory through out next season. Those teams that defeated Barcelona in this season will find it difficult to defeat them in next season, because Barcelona managements are prepared to admit talented strikers that will help the team to achieve next season la Liga league title.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 06, 2022, 06:34:40 AM

Nobody said that Barcelona was a weak team overall. It's just that they've been through the early stages of the season, and it's not just the crisis they're going through I think Koeman has had a hand in this responsibility. Since Xavi took over he has been able to make the team better. That means something is wrong with the way Koeman manages this team.

There are many factors that Koeman considered a failure in managing Barcelona. Especially in terms of money management, Koeman spends too much on less productive players. And when replaced by Xavi we see money savings by taking advantage of the portion of players who are quite qualified. Therefore, Koeman is considered wasteful and does not prioritize the quality of the players. Now in Xavi hands, we see a lot of positive changes that could have made a difference when Barcelona was under Koeman.

I agree with you.
Koeman is too obsessed with players from his country, you can see for yourself, when Koeman coached Barcelona, many Dutch players were recruited, even though the players themselves lacked potential when they were in Barcelona's uniform.
but in Xavi's hands there are plenty of sensible signings, and indeed what the team really needs. And it's been proven that under Xavi Barcelona's performance has improved so much that at the end of the season it has been ranked second in the standings.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 06, 2022, 06:34:40 AM

Nobody said that Barcelona was a weak team overall. It's just that they've been through the early stages of the season, and it's not just the crisis they're going through I think Koeman has had a hand in this responsibility. Since Xavi took over he has been able to make the team better. That means something is wrong with the way Koeman manages this team.

There are many factors that Koeman considered a failure in managing Barcelona. Especially in terms of money management, Koeman spends too much on less productive players. And when replaced by Xavi we see money savings by taking advantage of the portion of players who are quite qualified. Therefore, Koeman is considered wasteful and does not prioritize the quality of the players. Now in Xavi hands, we see a lot of positive changes that could have made a difference when Barcelona was under Koeman.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on June 06, 2022, 08:05:41 AM

I won't really blame Barcelona for all the trophies they lost , Barcelona was a struggling team that was trying to be stable. At the time Xavi came to Barcelona newly Barcelona was still struggling. With the performance of Barcelona it won't be possible for Barcelona to win trophies but at the same xavi did a great job not to be the least club in laliga.

We never know how the internal conditions of the team will be, it can happen to any team, including here what we are talking about is Barcelona which has become part of one of the giants in La Liga. Their decline in the last few seasons is indeed very unfortunate, especially since they are a team that is able to compete with Real Madrid. Their decline has made Real Madrid so comfortable for now. And hopefully Barcelona will press again in the season to come.

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Finishing second is quite an achievement, these season if not for Xavi Hernandez,
Barcelona would have finished eight place.

We all agree about this. I also appreciate that Xavi can lead Barcelona to finish in 2nd place. He did a great job in La Liga.
What we are discussing is how Xavi failed to win or to be the finalist of the Europa League. Barcelona has the chance to win it, but they can't optimize the chance. They even were defeated by a weak team in the quarter-final.

Barcelona's poor defense contributed to them losing their chances of winning the Europa League trophy. We all expected them to win the title, and i was disappointed when they probably got kicked out by Frankfurt. Perhaps, they underestimated their opponent, and thought they could beat Frankfurt easily. Although, even as that, Xavi deserved to be praised for his hard work in the team. However, I believe next season will be more productive for them. Because, Xavi will sign new players during the summer window transfer.

I won't really blame Barcelona for all the trophies they lost , Barcelona was a struggling team that was trying to be stable. At the time Xavi came to Barcelona newly Barcelona was still struggling. With the performance of Barcelona it won't be possible for Barcelona to win trophies but at the same xavi did a great job not to be the least club in laliga.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 06, 2022, 06:34:40 AM

Quote from: Gosgosking on June 06, 2022, 05:56:18 AM

Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

Nobody said that Barcelona was a weak team overall. It's just that they've been through the early stages of the season, and it's not just the crisis they're going through I think Koeman has had a hand in this responsibility. Since Xavi took over he has been able to make the team better. That means something is wrong with the way Koeman manages this team.

Maybe it's not correct to say Koeman messed up Barcelona, but that's the truth and I remember very well where Koeman let Suarez go, which basically Suarez had no problems with in the team. This factor reflects where Koeman's initial steps went wrong, because after that Barcelona's attack line could be said to be limp and it was difficult for them to score goals and weak in defense. This incident certainly makes the Barcelona board probably regret it because they chose the wrong coach to deal with Barcelona, now even though Barcelona looks to be improving but in fact they still have many problems. Therefore, if only in a chaotic era like this Xavi can build a better Barcelona, what if Barcelona is currently in a good situation and condition then Xavi will certainly do a better job than this.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on June 06, 2022, 05:56:18 AM

Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

Nobody said that Barcelona was a weak team overall. It's just that they've been through the early stages of the season, and it's not just the crisis they're going through I think Koeman has had a hand in this responsibility. Since Xavi took over he has been able to make the team better. That means something is wrong with the way Koeman manages this team.

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Quote from: nurilham on June 05, 2022, 06:22:06 PM

Quote from: D-law on June 05, 2022, 12:43:32 AM

Finishing second is quite an achievement, these season if not for Xavi Hernandez,
Barcelona would have finished eight place.

We all agree about this. I also appreciate that Xavi can lead Barcelona to finish in 2nd place. He did a great job in La Liga.
What we are discussing is how Xavi failed to win or to be the finalist of the Europa League. Barcelona has the chance to win it, but they can't optimize the chance. They even were defeated by a weak team in the quarter-final.

Barcelona's poor defense contributed to them losing their chances of winning the Europa League trophy. We all expected them to win the title, and i was disappointed when they probably got kicked out by Frankfurt. Perhaps, they underestimated their opponent, and thought they could beat Frankfurt easily. Although, even as that, Xavi deserved to be praised for his hard work in the team. However, I believe next season will be more productive for them. Because, Xavi will sign new players during the summer window transfer.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 06, 2022, 04:30:06 AM

What do club officials expect other than finishing second with Barcelona's condition this season? Become a champion? That's impossible for me. Still lucky Xavi saved them with a strategy he managed to apply so that he could finish under Real Madrid. Even I myself did not expect that they would reach this position, because I think they will get a top 4 finish.

I don't think there's any need to put Barcelona down just because they've been down in the past, because Barcelona have been strong in Laliga before and Xavi will definitely bring Barcelona to a better strength next season because Xavi knows that Barcelona are still not that strong this season even though can finish in 2nd position in the final standings.

Barcelona not performing well earlier in the season does not make Barcelona a weak team , if Barcelona is a weak team they would not have reached in the position where they are in laliga. As far as xavi is concerned in Barcelona it is very sure that Barcelona will come back strong in the next season.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 06, 2022, 04:30:06 AM

What do club officials expect other than finishing second with Barcelona's condition this season? Become a champion? That's impossible for me. Still lucky Xavi saved them with a strategy he managed to apply so that he could finish under Real Madrid. Even I myself did not expect that they would reach this position, because I think they will get a top 4 finish.

When the new season begins, all big club officials always want their club to become champions. Barcelona officials also had high hopes for Ronald Koeman, but Koeman could not meet the expectations of club officials so a change of coach was inevitable. Luckily Xavi was able to return Barcelona to a positive path, Xavi's arrival was able to save Barcelona's face. If they can't finish in the top four at the end of the season, Barcelona will be a crippled giant who is absent from the Champions League.

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