La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3749.

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You can't blame Xavi Hernandez for the failure of Barcelona not qualifier for the champions League knockouts stage, before xavi came Barcelona are already in a difficult state to qualify so is not his fault, since he came the performance has improved and they are grinding out results, with the signing of Torres, Adama Traore and Aubameyang I think they can only get better.

For the achievements that have been shown Barca are still lacking with their new performance. Now Xavi will continue to improve for the sake of the stability of his players. The victory that Barca got in the match with Atletico has changed a little people's point of view which relatively wants Barca to sink first. Here Xavi still has a long way to go and will continue to target bigger ones. So that Barcelona performance doesn't go down, preparing for the match with Espanyol is the show we've been waiting for.

Barcelona are unbeaten in their last 7 matches in La Liga. However, they have lost two crucial matches against Real Madrid and Athletic Bilbao. However, in La Liga they are quite a consistent team. Since Xavi's main goal at the moment is to stabilize the team and qualify for the Champions League, I would say Xavi has been successful so far. The team's performance has improved, now they can beat any strong opponent in the future only if they can maintain the continuity.

Too little too late. There is only hope of getting into some of the European competitions but this year has been a disaster not only on the field and even not only with relatively small teams. on the positive side, at least they may start re-purposing the team and getting ready for a successful next year of competition as this one is lost. Also, the mismanagement that recently was exposed in the courts of justice may hinder morale.

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Rayo Vallecano VS Real Betis
Rayo Vallecano is now playing against Real Betis in Copa del Rey's Semi. Real Betis are definitely favorites in this match. If Rayo Vallecano's team is not regular in its performance, they are capable of winning against any strong team. We have been fascinated by Rayo's performance in many matches in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if Rayo wins today's match. Rayo went ahead 1-0 with a goal in just 5 minutes. Real Betis has yet to make an attack.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 09, 2022, 11:29:18 AM

Many doubted whether Torres and Aubameyang would be able to adapt to Barcelona. Because the style and tactics of the Premier League and La Liga are completely different. So many people thought it would take a long time for these two players to adapt to Barcelona. But Xavi has done his duty properly. With his help, Torres and Aubameyang were able to adapt easily to the Barcelona team.

When you are a striker you have almost just one job, to score goals and once you can do that you have no business with critics. Both Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and ferran Torres are good strikers and I really like how xavi is trying to build this Barcelona team by combining good experienced players and some young talents.

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Quote from: oHnK on February 09, 2022, 11:09:19 AM

It's quite strange if the mistakes that have been in the Barca team for a long time are considered one of Xavi's biggest failures, if that's an indicator then you must first know what Barca's history is like with its various problems. There is no need to discuss financial matters because everyone already knows, and there are many other shortcomings that Xavi might have to fix immediately.

The cause of Barcelona's problems is financial problems so it is an important indicator of why they have not managed to improve their performance in various competitions this season even though most people already know about it. Xavi started to make Barcelona look good this season after replacing Koeman, Xavi needed a lot of time to bring Barcelona to the top of his form including having a very good strategy to apply to his team and players.

DU18, If people only judge from the bad side of Barcelona this season, then what about Real Madrid who also failed in the Copa Del Rey when they were defeated by a team that also beat Barcelona (Bilbao). Real Madrid managed to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this season, but that does not mean they will also qualify for the quarter-finals because PSG are a team that does not want to lose easily. 50:50 is a chance for both teams, but without Benzema and some other experienced players, Real Madrid's chances of qualifying for the quarter-finals will not be great.

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Sevilla are a lucky team as they have a chance to drop the gap with Real Madrid in the standings this week. Because they are going to have an easy home match against Elche and Real Madrid have a really difficult match against Villarreal away. I guess that Sevilla would destroy Elche first and drop the gap to three points. And this might cause Real Madrid to feel the pressure on themselves before their Villarreal match. And Villarreal have been in a good shape recently as they have been winning for two weeks. Maybe they can cause Real Madrid to lose points this time. Real Madrid might have a big difficulty in winning while being deprived of Benzema because of his injury.

Sevilla will make a big mistake if they consider Elche as a weak team. We have seen Elche's performance against Real Madrid. Even if Elche could score earlier against Sevilla, it would be very difficult for Sevilla to win the match. So Sevilla have to play very carefully in this match.
Real Madrid's next match is against Villarreal, and after that they will play against PSG in the Champions League. It remains to be seen whether Real Madrid will form their main squad against Villarreal or whether they will rest their key players. The next two matches are important for Real Madrid.

You have a good point there. I have just checked Elche's current form now. And I saw this: They haven't been losing for five weeks in the La Liga and won three of those matches. This is really not the kind of statistics that one can underestimate. And they resisted Real Madrid in a great way too. But on the other hand, I'm sure that Sevilla also would be aware of this and they would play carefully in this match. They must be aware that they can cause Real Madrid to pull away from them earlier and announce their championship.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on February 09, 2022, 12:18:57 PM

Quote from: borovichok on February 09, 2022, 10:56:45 AM

You can't blame Xavi Hernandez for the failure of Barcelona not qualifier for the champions League knockouts stage, before xavi came Barcelona are already in a difficult state to qualify so is not his fault, since he came the performance has improved and they are grinding out results, with the signing of Torres, Adama Traore and Aubameyang I think they can only get better.

For the achievements that have been shown Barca are still lacking with their new performance. Now Xavi will continue to improve for the sake of the stability of his players. The victory that Barca got in the match with Atletico has changed a little people's point of view which relatively wants Barca to sink first. Here Xavi still has a long way to go and will continue to target bigger ones. So that Barcelona performance doesn't go down, preparing for the match with Espanyol is the show we've been waiting for.

Barcelona are unbeaten in their last 7 matches in La Liga. However, they have lost two crucial matches against Real Madrid and Athletic Bilbao. However, in La Liga they are quite a consistent team. Since Xavi's main goal at the moment is to stabilize the team and qualify for the Champions League, I would say Xavi has been successful so far. The team's performance has improved, now they can beat any strong opponent in the future only if they can maintain the continuity.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 09, 2022, 11:29:18 AM

Many doubted whether Torres and Aubameyang would be able to adapt to Barcelona. Because the style and tactics of the Premier League and La Liga are completely different. So many people thought it would take a long time for these two players to adapt to Barcelona. But Xavi has done his duty properly. With his help, Torres and Aubameyang were able to adapt easily to the Barcelona team.

I am the exact opposite. I feel Ferran Torres will adapt quickly to Barcelona's style of play.
City's style of play was also brought by Pep from Barcelona and indeed their style is almost the same today so it won't be too much of a problem.
For Auba himself I feel he is experienced, he easily got into the arsenal game after dortmund and that can be done now.
the most important thing is to keep them consistent and maybe a record for Auba in discipline too

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Quote from: borovichok on February 09, 2022, 10:56:45 AM

You can't blame Xavi Hernandez for the failure of Barcelona not qualifier for the champions League knockouts stage, before xavi came Barcelona are already in a difficult state to qualify so is not his fault, since he came the performance has improved and they are grinding out results, with the signing of Torres, Adama Traore and Aubameyang I think they can only get better.

For the achievements that have been shown Barca are still lacking with their new performance. Now Xavi will continue to improve for the sake of the stability of his players. The victory that Barca got in the match with Atletico has changed a little people's point of view which relatively wants Barca to sink first. Here Xavi still has a long way to go and will continue to target bigger ones. So that Barcelona performance doesn't go down, preparing for the match with Espanyol is the show we've been waiting for.

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Yes, we shouldn't just watch yesterday's match, we can see how Xavi managed to change the club from the beginning of his arrival back to Barcelona. Imagine if at that time Xavi still failed to restore a bit of the team's form, then it is certain that Barcelona may still be knocked out of the top 10 in the standings. Now, Xavi can bring Barcelona back in the top 4 in the standings and of course it is a good achievement for Xavi too, considering Xavi's time in coaching is still not high enough.

More important than the fact that the Barcelona team is not losing points is that their performance has changed a lot. They have returned to their old ways. And with this strategy they are now able to play well enough. As the strategy changed, Xavi added the players needed for the team. Barcelona have a problem scoring goals so they have Aubameyang and Torres in the team. And they are playing well. I think we can see Barcelona in the top 4 of the table.

slowly but surely the game displayed by Barcelona in the last few matches is enough to surprise us how they succeeded in slaughtering Atletico Madrid so that they managed to penetrate the top four zones this season in the BBVA league standings table.if they continue to appear consistent it is not impossible Xavi Hernandez can brought Barcelona back to its former glory with the arrival of several players such as adama traore and also pierre-emerick aubameyang in this season's transfer window and both players have successfully proved that they were not brought in in vain by the catalan club.

Many doubted whether Torres and Aubameyang would be able to adapt to Barcelona. Because the style and tactics of the Premier League and La Liga are completely different. So many people thought it would take a long time for these two players to adapt to Barcelona. But Xavi has done his duty properly. With his help, Torres and Aubameyang were able to adapt easily to the Barcelona team.

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It's too soon to conclude Xavi Hernandez's success with Barcelona even though they have only won one big match, I think they forgot about Barcelona's failure in the Champions League and Copa del Rey. Perhaps optimistic that Barcelona's performance under Xavi will be better than the previous coach, but he has given the most fatal failure when Barcelona were eliminated in the Champions League group stage, this is the first time in Barcelona's history that they failed to qualify from the group stage.

Although it is still too early to judge Xavi, I believe you have to admit that he has made a difference to Barcelona's performance so far where they have achieved a top 4 position. I know you're not someone who likes Barcelona, but you can't hide the fact that Xavi proved his capacity as a different coach from the previous Barcelona coaches.

Some of the players they brought in during the winter transfer window had a good impact on Barcelona's performance and this is a good start to expect them to perform better in the next many games. Adama, Aubameyang, Torres are 3 players who are expected to make this team stable in terms of performance. I myself won't forget their failures in the Champions League and Copa Del Rey, but that's only natural because Barcelona have so far been in bad financial trouble so they can only take advantage of the available players.

It's quite strange if the mistakes that have been in the Barca team for a long time are considered one of Xavi's biggest failures, if that's an indicator then you must first know what Barca's history is like with its various problems. There is no need to discuss financial matters because everyone already knows, and there are many other shortcomings that Xavi might have to fix immediately.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 09, 2022, 06:22:12 AM

It's too soon to conclude Xavi Hernandez's success with Barcelona even though they have only won one big match, I think they forgot about Barcelona's failure in the Champions League and Copa del Rey. Perhaps optimistic that Barcelona's performance under Xavi will be better than the previous coach, but he has given the most fatal failure when Barcelona were eliminated in the Champions League group stage, this is the first time in Barcelona's history that they failed to qualify from the group stage.

You can't blame Xavi Hernandez for the failure of Barcelona not qualifier for the champions League knockouts stage, before xavi came Barcelona are already in a difficult state to qualify so is not his fault, since he came the performance has improved and they are grinding out results, with the signing of Torres, Adama Traore and Aubameyang I think they can only get better.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 09, 2022, 06:22:12 AM

It's too soon to conclude Xavi Hernandez's success with Barcelona even though they have only won one big match, I think they forgot about Barcelona's failure in the Champions League and Copa del Rey. Perhaps optimistic that Barcelona's performance under Xavi will be better than the previous coach, but he has given the most fatal failure when Barcelona were eliminated in the Champions League group stage, this is the first time in Barcelona's history that they failed to qualify from the group stage.

Although it is still too early to judge Xavi, I believe you have to admit that he has made a difference to Barcelona's performance so far where they have achieved a top 4 position. I know you're not someone who likes Barcelona, but you can't hide the fact that Xavi proved his capacity as a different coach from the previous Barcelona coaches.

Some of the players they brought in during the winter transfer window had a good impact on Barcelona's performance and this is a good start to expect them to perform better in the next many games. Adama, Aubameyang, Torres are 3 players who are expected to make this team stable in terms of performance. I myself won't forget their failures in the Champions League and Copa Del Rey, but that's only natural because Barcelona have so far been in bad financial trouble so they can only take advantage of the available players.

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Quote from: naira on February 09, 2022, 05:44:38 AM

Quote from: hahay on February 09, 2022, 03:54:04 AM

Yes, we shouldn't just watch yesterday's match, we can see how Xavi managed to change the club from the beginning of his arrival back to Barcelona. Imagine if at that time Xavi still failed to restore a bit of the team's form, then it is certain that Barcelona may still be knocked out of the top 10 in the standings. Now, Xavi can bring Barcelona back in the top 4 in the standings and of course it is a good achievement for Xavi too, considering Xavi's time in coaching is still not high enough.

The feat that Xavi has shown to all Barcelona fans is a strong belief that he will continue to improve as long as there are opportunities. It is almost inconceivable without Xavi or without any changes. So we see that Barcelona is only a club that is considered to be dead and sinking. But now that perception is starting to fade and there is still some hope for the continuation of Barcelona in the future. There is still a long way to go and Xavi can still improve.

it's still too early for that because indeed he still can't do much at Barcelona at the moment. He could be Koeman too in the end because indeed to train early in barcelona Koeman is also something that is considered good enough to even be able to give the CDR Trophy for Barcelona so what is he now? He is now like an enemy for not being able to lift Barca's performance.
It depends on how Xavi will be because I think Xavi is still not okay and Barcelona's performance is still not consistent

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Quote from: Minecache on February 09, 2022, 05:22:29 AM

Quote from: hahay on February 09, 2022, 03:54:04 AM

Yes, we shouldn't just watch yesterday's match, we can see how Xavi managed to change the club from the beginning of his arrival back to Barcelona. Imagine if at that time Xavi still failed to restore a bit of the team's form, then it is certain that Barcelona may still be knocked out of the top 10 in the standings. Now, Xavi can bring Barcelona back in the top 4 in the standings and of course it is a good achievement for Xavi too, considering Xavi's time in coaching is still not high enough.

More important than the fact that the Barcelona team is not losing points is that their performance has changed a lot. They have returned to their old ways. And with this strategy they are now able to play well enough. As the strategy changed, Xavi added the players needed for the team. Barcelona have a problem scoring goals so they have Aubameyang and Torres in the team. And they are playing well. I think we can see Barcelona in the top 4 of the table.

slowly but surely the game displayed by Barcelona in the last few matches is enough to surprise us how they succeeded in slaughtering Atletico Madrid so that they managed to penetrate the top four zones this season in the BBVA league standings table.if they continue to appear consistent it is not impossible Xavi Hernandez can brought Barcelona back to its former glory with the arrival of several players such as adama traore and also pierre-emerick aubameyang in this season's transfer window and both players have successfully proved that they were not brought in in vain by the catalan club.

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Quote from: diderdrogba on February 09, 2022, 06:39:50 AM

My opinion about the Vallecano - Betis game today is that Betis can win this one too. They have been performing incredibly well lately and I mean especially the Copa del Rey. Their performance against Real Sociedad was unbelievably good that I wasn't expecting Betis to defeat them by a score like 4-0. Maybe they wouldn't do the same to Vallecano but their probability of winning this game seems to be quite high in my opinion. So I don't think Vallecano have much chance in this round.

Betis will provide a fairly heavy burden that needs to be fought by a club like Vallecano who only always play it safe or don't really want to be in the top 10. There is no apparent chance that Vallecano can beat Betis easily. Moreover, learning from the previous match against Sociedad by winning 4 points so that it can be an obstacle for Vallecano to step more freely on the field.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 09, 2022, 06:22:12 AM

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Quote from: hahay on February 09, 2022, 03:54:04 AM

Yes, we shouldn't just watch yesterday's match, we can see how Xavi managed to change the club from the beginning of his arrival back to Barcelona. Imagine if at that time Xavi still failed to restore a bit of the team's form, then it is certain that Barcelona may still be knocked out of the top 10 in the standings. Now, Xavi can bring Barcelona back in the top 4 in the standings and of course it is a good achievement for Xavi too, considering Xavi's time in coaching is still not high enough.

The feat that Xavi has shown to all Barcelona fans is a strong belief that he will continue to improve as long as there are opportunities. It is almost inconceivable without Xavi or without any changes. So we see that Barcelona is only a club that is considered to be dead and sinking. But now that perception is starting to fade and there is still some hope for the continuation of Barcelona in the future. There is still a long way to go and Xavi can still improve.

It's too soon to conclude Xavi Hernandez's success with Barcelona even though they have only won one big match, I think they forgot about Barcelona's failure in the Champions League and Copa del Rey. Perhaps optimistic that Barcelona's performance under Xavi will be better than the previous coach, but he has given the most fatal failure when Barcelona were eliminated in the Champions League group stage, this is the first time in Barcelona's history that they failed to qualify from the group stage.

It's too early or not because in fact people judge from various aspects and it can't be generalized by one or two people. Because what we see from Xavi is a pretty good development rather than being under pressure and being haunted by the past. Do you just decide it's better to see the Barcelona club remain on the brink of obscurity with a slumped condition or see developments that gradually reduce anxiety in the League?

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on February 08, 2022, 08:19:42 AM

With all results from Real Madrid and other clubs so far, it is very probably that they will win La Liga but in the next season, I don't know. Real Madrid are moving to the end of this player generation which almost hits their limits because of ages.

But unfortunately as far as I know the last agreement they only get Mbappe from PSG for next season. I don't want them to fail in regenerating players for the next season. Maybe Madrid have better finances, but they could have failed if they hadn't started now.
There will still be fifteen matches, although they are favourites but Madrid could not get the title after failing in the Copa del Rey. They are only six points clear of Sevilla. It might be even more interesting but it's not very good for Madrid supporters.

6 points is not much of a score difference, this gap can be closed in just a few weeks. If the team loses a few games, the whole ranking may change.
15 weeks is a long time for football, yet it is difficult to say that Real Madrid will be champions. Many things can change.
I am sure that they will see much stronger opponents next year. Other Spanish clubs started badly but are playing well now

It's true 6 points is not that far away, but can Sevilla play consistently in every game, and get full points? Because some strong teams are waiting for the match later. Likewise Real Madrid, if they want to stay on track to win they have to play consistently. Don't be like in the Copa del Rey match, although they don't seem to prioritize it too much, but it's a correction that they can still be beaten by the team below them.

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Quote from: Luzin on February 08, 2022, 09:46:52 AM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on February 08, 2022, 08:19:42 AM

With all results from Real Madrid and other clubs so far, it is very probably that they will win La Liga but in the next season, I don't know. Real Madrid are moving to the end of this player generation which almost hits their limits because of ages.

But unfortunately as far as I know the last agreement they only get Mbappe from PSG for next season. I don't want them to fail in regenerating players for the next season. Maybe Madrid have better finances, but they could have failed if they hadn't started now.
There will still be fifteen matches, although they are favourites but Madrid could not get the title after failing in the Copa del Rey. They are only six points clear of Sevilla. It might be even more interesting but it's not very good for Madrid supporters.

6 points is not much of a score difference, this gap can be closed in just a few weeks. If the team loses a few games, the whole ranking may change.
15 weeks is a long time for football, yet it is difficult to say that Real Madrid will be champions. Many things can change.
I am sure that they will see much stronger opponents next year. Other Spanish clubs started badly but are playing well now

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My opinion about the Vallecano - Betis game today is that Betis can win this one too. They have been performing incredibly well lately and I mean especially the Copa del Rey. Their performance against Real Sociedad was unbelievably good that I wasn't expecting Betis to defeat them by a score like 4-0. Maybe they wouldn't do the same to Vallecano but their probability of winning this game seems to be quite high in my opinion. So I don't think Vallecano have much chance in this round.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 09, 2022, 06:22:12 AM

It's too soon to conclude Xavi Hernandez's success with Barcelona even though they have only won one big match, I think they forgot about Barcelona's failure in the Champions League and Copa del Rey. Perhaps optimistic that Barcelona's performance under Xavi will be better than the previous coach, but he has given the most fatal failure when Barcelona were eliminated in the Champions League group stage, this is the first time in Barcelona's history that they failed to qualify from the group stage.

but also too early to judge Xavi who failed to coach Barca. Barca's gameplay is gradually improving, and this is a process that Xavi developed. It's not easy to manage a team under pressure from a big problem like Barca. and Xavi tries to revive the team that has lived up to his name.
this season may be bad for Xavi and Barca. but hopefully next season they will perform better with better performance as well.

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