La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3773.

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Quote from: Sterbens on January 31, 2022, 07:52:34 AM

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Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

I also found this information from one of the Spanish journalists who said that Aubameyang who no longer has a bright future at Arsenal, his release has also been seriously discussed with Barcelona. These rumors quickly rose to the surface and have confirmed that Aubameyang future to Barcelona is a bright spot for Barcelona's progress.

i honestly don't see how he treats positive changes to barcelona, if we were talking about a player like benzema or vinicius junior or that aa from roma that i don't remember the name then i could say they would bring change to barcelona

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Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

I also found this information from one of the Spanish journalists who said that Aubameyang who no longer has a bright future at Arsenal, his release has also been seriously discussed with Barcelona. These rumors quickly rose to the surface and have confirmed that Aubameyang future to Barcelona is a bright spot for Barcelona's progress.

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I see that most of those discussing the match between Barcelona and Atlético have doubts about the fairness of the fact that Barcelona is ranked as the favourite. In the meantime, the odds from the bookmakers do not change in any way (even slightly changed in favor of Barcelona):

Atletico are also having a tough season. Last match they were able to get points out of their match against Valencia after they scored some late goals. Xavi has good options in Barca and his tactics and strategies are improving Barca level of play. With recent signings of players from PL like Traore and Torres I am not surprised Barca are favourites here. Also it is a crucial match between two top teams so anything can happen. I am on Barca on this one, Barca are on their road to recovery but I don't see any sign of improvement in Atletico's performance.

I would like to know what matches made you think that Barcelona are improving their level of play. In my opinion, they are degrading - returning to the outdated Tiki Taka strategy. With such a lineup of performers, this strategy is meaningless, plus it is 2022 now, most teams already know how to successfully counter it. As for transfers, yes, they will strengthen the team a little, but Atlético's squad is still better.

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Barcelona have reached an agreement with Adama Traore on a loan deal. And I think that this is not a very good transfer for Barcelona. Because I really wonder what Xavi sees in him. They haven't signed him permanently of course but they still could have brough a much better winger than him. Maybe he cost them not too much which was attracting to them. But I really can't dream Traore playing compatibly with the team. He has nothing special beside his speed and strength. He is lacking when it comes to passes and scoring.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on January 30, 2022, 02:40:04 PM

I am one among who miss messi from Barcelona. Not sure why he is not part of current team. But wish he should have been here. Yes, but without Messi, other players are really performing well better than Atlaltico Madrid. Next match is going to be with Atlatico Madrid on 6th Feb. There are lot chances for Barcelono to move up to 4th place. Will wait for the match until 6th Feb.

Messi was one of the best players in the world. He was an unstoppable star while playing for Barcelona. But even though he was playing for the current team, the team's place in the league would not change much, Barcelona started the league by playing very badly this year.
Although individual performances are important, for a long time, no one did anything for the team. So it didn't matter much if one or two players changed. The important thing is to have a good relationship between the coach, the players and the fans

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Quote from: Minor Miner on January 28, 2022, 11:14:27 AM

Actually, the problem which Barcelona faced did not just happen in a day. It's not like they made one bad transfer and went bankrupt, okay?

You have to understand that it happened over time and only came to light when they had to sell Messi.
Before that, a lot of people didn't even know they had a money problem.
And with difficulty finding investors, the situation only worsened.

Now their best way to get out of it is to wait out for a season and save money and then make some moves on the transfer market.

Yeah, long before Suarez or Messi left, and arguably even during the era of MSN we could already feel the rope tightening.

And the worse thing for me is how late some of the information became public, and in fact how bad the conditions were, and how long the people at the club already knew about it (the stadium getting pigeon shit into food for example is shocking).

This is going to be a lot more than 1 season of pain I would say though. A LOT more. But then again, they got Traore and want to buy more so I guess I don't know what I'm saying.

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We are only one week away from the big match between Barcelona and Atletico Madrid in the La Liga. And I would like to share my opinion about how it could end also. Above all else, I don't think that any of the teams here are the highly favourite of the match. They are similar to each other these days. They both have been having difficulties in winning league matches comfortably. Taking this into account, I think that we will watch a very competitive match. I think that Atletico Madrid will prefer to play safer as they are the away team. I think that both of them will score and it might end up with a draw.

I think the match is likely to end in a draw. In the past, one of the two teams could be seen as the favourite. But in the current situation they are not really doing well. Of course, both teams have a chance to win, but the probability of a draw seems higher.

When both teams will enter into ground then all results possible because on ground anything can happen with any team but with current form Barcelona is looking somehow better than Atletico Madrid because current form is Barcelona 11 points from last 5 matches and Atletico Madrid just 7 from last 5 means home is improving their performance and having some better quality than visitors so most chances they can win still chances that match can end into draw as well.

Because Atletico Madrid is very good and strong team even they are facing some bad time still capable of doing some surprising results against any team and Barcelona is improving but still they are not strong enough to win easily against top ranked teams.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 30, 2022, 06:31:00 PM

Quote from: Slow death on January 29, 2022, 08:53:46 AM

Barcelona - Atletico
why are they putting barcelona as a favorite? barcelona has a better chance of drawing in this game, so I do not see barcelona as a favorite in this game in my opinion, looking at barcelona that manages to draw with small teams then game against Atletico will be another draw

They favor Barcelona probably because the match will be held in Camp Nou stadium. Another reason, Barcelona performance in the last 5 matches looks better than Atletico Madrid. They can win 3 times, 2 draws, and 0 lose. While Atletico Madrid got 2 losses, 2 wins, and 1 draw. If we consider the stats, it is reasonable to favor Barcelona as the winner in the upcoming match. However, I agree with you that the upcoming match seems to have a draw result. I believe Atletico Madrid won't be easy to be defeated, IMO they have a stronger squad than Barcelona has.

But looking on defender Barcelona is really good performance beside Atletico Madrid defender have the same cases where last games against Valencia, Atletico Madrid had to fall behind by 2 goals first and it looks like Atletico Madrid's back line is also not as good as Barcelona.
I think both team have great motivate how to win after position standing just left one points only, who success out as the winner in this game back to top four position for Barcelona and make Atletico Madrid far from Barcelona position leaving 4 points.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 30, 2022, 02:54:31 PM

Yes you are right mate. Solksjaer was a ManU legend when he was a football player, but being a coach is very different. I don't see much of good old players who are technically proficient. Perhaps Guardiola could be the exception. The number of people who are good when they are both a football player and a coach is rare. Likewise, Roberto Carlos remained weak as a coach. Zinedine Zidane was considered good, but his playing football was much better. Xavi gives me hope. It seems to me that he will have a great career as a coach.

You are the same people who used to say Zidane was “lucky” to win games. Until a coach wins 3 consecutive UCL titles in the least amount of time, then there is nothing you are going to say to me convincing me that Zidane isn't among the greats in terms of coaching.
If you talk about squad strength, remember the likes of Guardiola failed to win a UCL title with Bayern Munich and now still struggling the same with Manchester City.

All this does not negate the fact that all the successes of Zinedine Zidane are associated with only one team, which is Real Madrid, so I still think it is not entirely correct to compare Zidane with Pep Guardiola, who achieved success in both the championship and the Champions League with Barcelona, and also won titles with Bayern and Manchester City. Therefore, Guardiola has already managed to prove his coaching ability in other championships, which has not yet happened with Zidane. At the same time, I personally have no doubt about Zidane's professional coaching qualities and the Champions League titles are excellent evidence of this, but still we have not yet seen Zidane in conditions other than Spanish.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 29, 2022, 08:53:46 AM

Barcelona - Atletico
why are they putting barcelona as a favorite? barcelona has a better chance of drawing in this game, so I do not see barcelona as a favorite in this game in my opinion, looking at barcelona that manages to draw with small teams then game against Atletico will be another draw

They favor Barcelona probably because the match will be held in Camp Nou stadium. Another reason, Barcelona performance in the last 5 matches looks better than Atletico Madrid. They can win 3 times, 2 draws, and 0 lose. While Atletico Madrid got 2 losses, 2 wins, and 1 draw. If we consider the stats, it is reasonable to favor Barcelona as the winner in the upcoming match. However, I agree with you that the upcoming match seems to have a draw result. I believe Atletico Madrid won't be easy to be defeated, IMO they have a stronger squad than Barcelona has.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

Wait a minute, how is this going to look like ?
Aubamayang in Barcelona? Bustling anyways but the most important point is; is he going to deliver professionally just as the purpose to which he was signed?
Barcelona needs tactical strikers and if they'll be able to complete aubamayang's deal, then they'll not be in want for balls in the net.
Arsenal has really gone down and it can't be told which of thier players is still mastery with his professional gameplay except for some few that has FIFA rating .

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Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

Wait a minute, how is this going to look like ?
Aubamayang in Barcelona? Bustling anyways but the most important point is; is he going to deliver professionally just as the purpose to which he was signed?
Barcelona needs tactical strikers and if they'll be able to complete aubamayang's deal, then they'll not be in want for balls in the net.
Arsenal has really gone down and it can't be told which of thier players is still mastery with his professional gameplay except for some few that has FIFA rating .

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 30, 2022, 07:41:10 AM

Atletico Madrid's gameplay began to deteriorate after Suarez was injured. Now their gameplay is very weak.

Luis Suarez isn't injured, you can see him playing against Valencia in the matchday 22 previously. The injured player is Griezmann, you must be aware he is absent in the last match. Anyway, almost all players of Atletico Madrid are decreasing their performances, so not only because of the decrease of Suarez's performance only.

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 30, 2022, 07:41:10 AM

While Barcelona has been able to strengthen itself, Atletico Madrid is failing.

What do you mean? Barcelona still cannot show us that they are stronger. Signing some players in this transfer window cannot be the sign that they already become stronger. Having many top players doesn't guarantee that they can improve their strength.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

Aubameyang style of play would fit in to Barcelona. Automatically we should be expecting a huge impact both with assist and giving in some good attempts for Barcelona. It's now up to him to decide if he will be willing to get the pay cut but if I was to suggest he could accept the offer so he can possibly target a better club from Barcelona or alternatively get a new contract signed once the loan transfer terminates atleast by then his contract with Arsenal must have tetminated

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 30, 2022, 02:54:31 PM

Yes you are right mate. Solksjaer was a ManU legend when he was a football player, but being a coach is very different. I don't see much of good old players who are technically proficient. Perhaps Guardiola could be the exception. The number of people who are good when they are both a football player and a coach is rare. Likewise, Roberto Carlos remained weak as a coach. Zinedine Zidane was considered good, but his playing football was much better. Xavi gives me hope. It seems to me that he will have a great career as a coach.

You are the same people who used to say Zidane was “lucky” to win games. Until a coach wins 3 consecutive UCL titles in the least amount of time, then there is nothing you are going to say to me convincing me that Zidane isn't among the greats in terms of coaching.

If you talk about squad strength, remember the likes of Guardiola failed to win a UCL title with Bayern Munich and now still struggling the same with Manchester City.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

It's really supposing though, I just see it on All football news that Aubameyang agreed a loan deal with Barcelona, I hope this transfer should be successful because he is currently not in good condition with Arsenal coach and management at large, so I think if he went out for loan he might be able to stay there in Barcelona or find his way to another team because his contract in Arsenal will be almost over then.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 30, 2022, 02:54:31 PM

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Yes you are right mate. Solksjaer was a ManU legend when he was a football player, but being a coach is very different. I don't see much of good old players who are technically proficient. Perhaps Guardiola could be the exception. The number of people who are good when they are both a football player and a coach is rare. Likewise, Roberto Carlos remained weak as a coach. Zinedine Zidane was considered good, but his playing football was much better. Xavi gives me hope. It seems to me that he will have a great career as a coach.

How can you even tell if Zidane was better as a player or as a manager when you already said to Solksjaer that those two are different?

I think Pep is not that far from Zidane. His managerial career may be longer but we have to remember that both of them inherited a team with top class players and won multiple league titles.

Quote from: logfiles on January 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

...Does anyone see this move happening soon?

Nothing concrete yet....just rumors but anyone would likely take that Arsenal to Barcelona leap.

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Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 30, 2022, 07:41:10 AM

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A good opportunity for Barcelona to utilize this chance and go above them in the la liga standing.
I would have been saying or making prediction for Athletico Madrid to win or get a draw at least, but this is at Camp Nou.. they have no giid chance to win Barcelona at home.
With current improvement in the team they'll hurt Athletico Madrid with attacks, the opposing defender's should be ready.

Why is Atletico Madrid unlikely to win at CampNou? There is nothing to think Barcelona so strong. Although they try to stabilize themselves, they are not yet strong. Out of 10 home matches, Barcelona has won 6 matches. I don't think they will win the home match. Barcelona can win this match if one of Atletico's key players is injured. If Suarez, Griezmann and Correa can play well, then the match is more likely to be a draw

On the other hand, let's look at the history of their matches, even though it doesn't really apply to be a win for any of the teams, but at least with the history of Athletico's victory in the last few matches against Barcelona I feel this will be a cheerleader there.
I don't really understand why so many people think that Barcelona is strong at the moment when in fact the two clubs are quite balanced now.

I think Barcelona will beat Atletico Madrid (at least by 1 goal difference) and they will snatch 4th place from Atletico Madrid. Both Barcelona and Atletico have not been at their best performance yet but Barcelona is a little bit better than Atletico Madrid. Barcelona hasn't lost in their last 6 matches, while Atletico can only win 2 times, draw once and lose 3 times, and the most advantageous for Barcelona, they will play at home.

Atletico Madrid's gameplay began to deteriorate after Suarez was injured. Now their gameplay is very weak. While Barcelona has been able to strengthen itself, Atletico Madrid is failing. They need more talented players in their team. A regular scorer is required. Torres, on the other hand, has played well in every match since joining the team. If he can continue his good performance, Barcelona will have no problem beating Atletico Madrid.

Everyone should always be given more talented players. Where else can they get more players from? Well, if they can't find or buy a player that suits them, what can they do? You just have to be able to rebuild the game and not rely on the same guy coming in and saving the team from defeat, in this case I mean Suarez. Well let's see what happens when he recovers, whether Atletico will get back to the same game or everything will stay the same

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on January 30, 2022, 06:30:58 AM

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On the other hand, let's look at the history of their matches, even though it doesn't really apply to be a win for any of the teams, but at least with the history of Athletico's victory in the last few matches against Barcelona I feel this will be a cheerleader there.
I don't really understand why so many people think that Barcelona is strong at the moment when in fact the two clubs are quite balanced now.

I think Barcelona will beat Atletico Madrid (at least by 1 goal difference) and they will snatch 4th place from Atletico Madrid. Both Barcelona and Atletico have not been at their best performance yet but Barcelona is a little bit better than Atletico Madrid. Barcelona hasn't lost in their last 6 matches, while Atletico can only win 2 times, draw once and lose 3 times, and the most advantageous for Barcelona, they will play at home.

they are playing at home and are in perfCDRorma which can be said quite well right now but what you are saying is their performance in La Liga and not in any other league because in the last few weeks they have also been busy with CDR and the Spanish Super Cup.
and if you look at the performance of la Liga, Spanish Super Cup and CDR in the last few weeks, I don't think either team is good and even the performance is still the same and monotonous.

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