La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3873.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 28, 2021, 02:45:26 PM

I really need to understand what is meant by Barcelona's financial problem. They spent above 50 million euros and yet they are in financial problem.
I even saw on one Facebook ad where Barcelona is among if not the richest club in Europe.
So, they will have to explain to us how someone will be a debtor and same time rich

There are a few things regarding this situation, not in general but just this situation alone. One of them is the fact that the kid is just 21 years old, they could get these type of players because they could end up selling him for more later on, in 3-4 years they will be able to both use him and then sell him for profit and that's a good move by them. Secondly and more importantly if they suck and finish outside of UCL then they will not be making a decent profit next season, in order to pay your debts back, you need to first earn enough to pay them, and Barcelona needs that champions league money to pay it back.

So, maybe they just saw this as a chance to improve the roster and in return get more than what they spent in the future thanks to this transfer. Plus they need to get the team younger anyway, sell some of those pique or busquets type of old players and get these youngsters to be honest and that will always cost them money.

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Quote from: diyetisman on December 28, 2021, 03:39:38 PM

The new week is closing in. The opening game is in three days and it is between Valencia and Espanyol. Valencia have been one of the impressive teams of the last weeks. They have had a three-game win streak lately. And they didn't lose a game for a long time. I can't say the same for Espanyol honestly. They were winning and losing consecutively these times. Their inconsistency could cost them three points here.

After very bad start in early days of this season now suddenly Valencia is playing very good with their current form is giving them some good chance for having a spot in next season's European chance because few teams already losing their spot due to very bad form and this can help them at very crucial time of this season.

Espanyol away form is worst as they lost 4 matches and have only 1 draw against Elche so with this all now if Valencia wins this match surely they will jump into very good spot with some good time for having their strong hold until end of this season which is very good for them.

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Quote from: mardaed on December 28, 2021, 12:55:43 PM

I saw the news today and couldn't believe my eyes about Barcelona. They just bought a new player worth 55 million euros. What is that club doing? I thought they had so much debt. Apparently they can be even more in the minus. In this way they can make it strong and become top again. In Spain is a lot possible it seems?

The fact that Barcelona has more than a billion euros in debt does not mean that they have to pay this debt right tomorrow. There is a payment schedule and it stretches over many years, given the low interest rates, servicing this debt can cost only several tens of millions of dollars a year. Barcelona spends about 700 million a year on salaries, so such a waste can be considered insignificant.

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The new week is closing in. The opening game is in three days and it is between Valencia and Espanyol. Valencia have been one of the impressive teams of the last weeks. They have had a three-game win streak lately. And they didn't lose a game for a long time. I can't say the same for Espanyol honestly. They were winning and losing consecutively these times. Their inconsistency could cost them three points here.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 28, 2021, 02:12:35 PM

While I was waiting for Real Sociedad to stay in the competition for the title, Betis and Vallecano started to be at the forefront recently. Real Sociedad started to lose strength recently and they lost so many games. Betis and Vallecano benefited from this in a very nice way. Now, we are seeing Betis at the 3rd position and Vallecano right behind them. Maybe these teams won't be able to fight really hard for the title. But even one of them could make it to the Champions League groups directly if they maintain this level.

There is nothing special with Real Sociedad because if you are able to check Atletico Madrid is also facing same dilemma they are also on streak of 4 losing matches but hopefully this break will have some positive for them because now after break we have Alaves vs Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid vs Royal Volcano with this some good changes can happen at league table because these two teams now in must win situation for having some strong case for staying in top four teams with now Barcelona is also preparing for some better things in winter transfer window. If these both teams now fail to grip, then surely they are going to lose their spot and more problems for them.

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Barcelona have made their move by signing Ferran Torres. Of course, there will be an adaptation process for him here. However, I don't think that it will take him a long time to adapt them. Because Manchester City have a very similar game plan to Barcelona. Guardiola is their manager in the end. We should be seeing a striker move from Barcelona also. They don't have a strong striker in the team right now.

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Quote from: Doell on December 28, 2021, 01:18:03 PM

Quote from: mardaed on December 28, 2021, 12:55:43 PM

I saw the news today and couldn't believe my eyes about Barcelona. They just bought a new player worth 55 million euros. What is that club doing? I thought they had so much debt. Apparently they can be even more in the minus. In this way they can make it strong and become top again. In Spain is a lot possible it seems?

you mean ferran torres ,yes barcelona have to spend 55 million euros for it and I also heard + 10 million ! yes barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis right but must survive from it all ,maybe there will be a sale of players later which I heard is also like that ! hopefully bringing in torres make barcelona better come back

I really need to understand what is meant by Barcelona's financial problem. They spent above 50 million euros and yet they are in financial problem.
I even saw on one Facebook ad where Barcelona is among if not the richest club in Europe.
So, they will have to explain to us how someone will be a debtor and same time rich

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While I was waiting for Real Sociedad to stay in the competition for the title, Betis and Vallecano started to be at the forefront recently. Real Sociedad started to lose strength recently and they lost so many games. Betis and Vallecano benefited from this in a very nice way. Now, we are seeing Betis at the 3rd position and Vallecano right behind them. Maybe these teams won't be able to fight really hard for the title. But even one of them could make it to the Champions League groups directly if they maintain this level.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 27, 2021, 04:14:38 PM

Real Madrid really owe Carlo Ancelotti too much in this season. Because they have been having a perfect season so far not only in the La Liga but also in the Champions League. They are already dominating the La Liga now. They lost only once in 19 matches. And they continue to make a great effort even in the matches they don't manage to win. The Cadiz match is a good example for that. And maybe they will have a period that they struggle in also. But I still don't expect them to lose their very big chance for the league championship this time. It is time to revenge on Atletico Madrid after losing the title chance by a little gap in the previous season.

Ancelotti did have a big role in lifting the mentality of the Madrid players who had slumped at the start of the season, besides that Madrid weak defense after losing Ramos and Varane now looks to be starting to improve and Ancelloti skill in formulating strategies and formations, of course, deserves to be acknowledged as the main reason for the revival madrid, but I think madrid greatness this season can not be separated from a fortune due to the decline in the performance of Atletico Madrid and also Barcelona this season, I think if Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are in perfect condition, Madrid will not feel comfortable being at the top of the standings right now.

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Quote from: mardaed on December 28, 2021, 12:55:43 PM

I saw the news today and couldn't believe my eyes about Barcelona. They just bought a new player worth 55 million euros. What is that club doing? I thought they had so much debt. Apparently they can be even more in the minus. In this way they can make it strong and become top again. In Spain is a lot possible it seems?

you mean ferran torres ,yes barcelona have to spend 55 million euros for it and I also heard + 10 million ! yes barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis right but must survive from it all ,maybe there will be a sale of players later which I heard is also like that ! hopefully bringing in torres make barcelona better come back

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I saw the news today and couldn't believe my eyes about Barcelona. They just bought a new player worth 55 million euros. What is that club doing? I thought they had so much debt. Apparently they can be even more in the minus. In this way they can make it strong and become top again. In Spain is a lot possible it seems?

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 27, 2021, 02:32:57 PM

After playing really solid against Sevilla in an away game the last time, Barcelona's next target is going to be Mallorca in another away game. The Barcelona I watched against Sevilla were really encouraging for the future. And they should show their seriousness by this game. Mallorca is not a tough opponent for them. They just need to focus on the game and make the effort they did against Sevilla at least. Then, they can win this.

On the one hand, Barcelona's succession of failures has led to the fact that the chances for it are now quite attractive, even in this match:
‍4,80 - 3,75 - 1,78
On the other hand, given the instability of Barcelona, plus its incomprehensible state after the break for the New Year's holiday, I doubt that it is worth making this bet.

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Quote from: judas on December 28, 2021, 05:38:40 AM

Quote from: hahay on December 25, 2021, 10:37:10 AM

Real Sociedad was good at the beginning unfortunately Real Sociedad couldn't maintain that good trend and then, we got Betis and Rayo Vallecano which I think is quite surprising too. They spin like a good wheel at the start and fall as time goes on and yes, with a result like this it's sure the race for the top four will still be interesting until the end of the season. Because I believe they will continue to overtake each other, because it is difficult for them to be consistent under pressure.

I really don't understand what happened to Real Sociedad suddenly. I get that every team would stumble at some point of course. But they did more than that in the recent times. Firstly, they got a draw and right after that they got four losses in a row. They have got a really huge problem in the team now I guess. Otherwise, I don't see any logical explanation for their current look. I wouldn't have said no to seeing a different team reaching the La Liga title. At least, it would have been good to see them fighting for it until the end.

There is only a chance for Barcelona to take advantage of the opportunity. While Real Sociedad is in a bad state with a disorganized game. Like Real Sociedad's good game at the beginning, it was like they lost the confidence to play at the end. Even though they had been relied on and used as a strong competitor. but here they will return to follow the history that can not be written on the table.

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Quote from: toast on December 28, 2021, 05:56:17 AM

Maybe that's just the level of that team. They had a really good season last year, and the year before that too. Normally and before they were never in the top 5 teams. Maybe everything went in the right direction for this team in the beginning, and now things are going wrong. They have too low quality to win bad matches, just like Real Madrid can. Individually, it is also quite limited if you compare it with the top of Spain.

In Spain there have been many top football teams and now everything has started to change like Real Madrid and Barcelona because both in the past were both very strong, but if you look at the two at this time it is very different where Barcelona is already very weak and not even in the last 16 of the Champions league for this season.

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Quote from: judas on December 28, 2021, 05:38:40 AM

Quote from: hahay on December 25, 2021, 10:37:10 AM

Real Sociedad was good at the beginning unfortunately Real Sociedad couldn't maintain that good trend and then, we got Betis and Rayo Vallecano which I think is quite surprising too. They spin like a good wheel at the start and fall as time goes on and yes, with a result like this it's sure the race for the top four will still be interesting until the end of the season. Because I believe they will continue to overtake each other, because it is difficult for them to be consistent under pressure.

I really don't understand what happened to Real Sociedad suddenly. I get that every team would stumble at some point of course. But they did more than that in the recent times. Firstly, they got a draw and right after that they got four losses in a row. They have got a really huge problem in the team now I guess. Otherwise, I don't see any logical explanation for their current look. I wouldn't have said no to seeing a different team reaching the La Liga title. At least, it would have been good to see them fighting for it until the end.

Maybe that's just the level of that team. They had a really good season last year, and the year before that too. Normally and before they were never in the top 5 teams. Maybe everything went in the right direction for this team in the beginning, and now things are going wrong. They have too low quality to win bad matches, just like Real Madrid can. Individually, it is also quite limited if you compare it with the top of Spain.

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Quote from: hahay on December 25, 2021, 10:37:10 AM

Real Sociedad was good at the beginning unfortunately Real Sociedad couldn't maintain that good trend and then, we got Betis and Rayo Vallecano which I think is quite surprising too. They spin like a good wheel at the start and fall as time goes on and yes, with a result like this it's sure the race for the top four will still be interesting until the end of the season. Because I believe they will continue to overtake each other, because it is difficult for them to be consistent under pressure.

I really don't understand what happened to Real Sociedad suddenly. I get that every team would stumble at some point of course. But they did more than that in the recent times. Firstly, they got a draw and right after that they got four losses in a row. They have got a really huge problem in the team now I guess. Otherwise, I don't see any logical explanation for their current look. I wouldn't have said no to seeing a different team reaching the La Liga title. At least, it would have been good to see them fighting for it until the end.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 27, 2021, 06:25:30 PM

Quote from: AndySt on December 27, 2021, 06:05:33 PM

I think that with such a good squad, Atletico Madrid should not continue to lose at such a pace and continue its terrible streak, so it's not a fact that Barcelona will get ahead of Atletico.

Atletico has a problem with player injury, it makes them difficult to show his best form. If you checked their squad, there are some injured players lately. Savic, Gimenez, Vrsaljko, Llorente, and Griezmann are injured, they cannot play temporarily. Losing Savic and Gimenez is the main problem here since they are the best Atletico central backs. So, we cannot blame them to get bad results because they are not as strong as you think now. Regarding the chance for Barcelona to overtake Atletico, it is very possible since the point gap is only 1.

Overtaking is a common thing and I think there is no problem with that because after all, they will continue to play throughout the season and we will just have to wait for the final standings. With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on December 27, 2021, 04:46:35 PM

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on December 26, 2021, 08:32:33 AM

Much eyes on Barcelona and Xavi Hernandez, failing to realize he just came in and ain't no magician.
Take a good look at Athletico Madrid who should be dominating the La liga, they have failed woefully,game's after game's.
They should try to keep up else Barcelona will come ahead of them in a short time.
They must have lost drive.

Barcelona was in a terrible state before tht arrival of Xavi. And he is just trying his possible best to put Barca back on track. But, what people don't understand is that this will take some time. Atletico Madrid performance are poor, they lost all their last 4 matches, and one of the problem Atletico seems to have is are defense. However, If Barcelona play their next matches without losing, they will surely take over Atletico Madrid's place.

Indeed,Xavi is really doing a great job at Barcelona,bringing these young players together and trying his possible best to make them live up to expectation from their fans.
I so much trust the process,I believe in Xavi that he is taking Barcelona to a greater heights,to their former tiki-taka pattern of football.

Although Barcelona is currently still in 7th position, Barcelona's performance is getting better since Xavi became the main coach at Barcelona.
I'm even optimistic that at least Barcelona can enter the top 4 this season, we can't demand instant results from Xavi. Because Xavi still needs
time to build Barcelona into a strong team again, Xavi is also still in the process of bringing in some desired players. Although the young players
trusted by Xavi have shown good performance, still, to be able to compete for the La Liga trophy, Xavi needs some experienced players.
I'm curious to see who Xavi will finally sign in the January transfer window, because indeed Xavi needs some new players to make Barcelona
play the tiki-taka pattern perfectly.

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Quote from: AndySt on December 27, 2021, 06:05:33 PM

I think that with such a good squad, Atletico Madrid should not continue to lose at such a pace and continue its terrible streak, so it's not a fact that Barcelona will get ahead of Atletico.

Atletico has a problem with player injury, it makes them difficult to show his best form. If you checked their squad, there are some injured players lately. Savic, Gimenez, Vrsaljko, Llorente, and Griezmann are injured, they cannot play temporarily. Losing Savic and Gimenez is the main problem here since they are the best Atletico central backs. So, we cannot blame them to get bad results because they are not as strong as you think now. Regarding the chance for Barcelona to overtake Atletico, it is very possible since the point gap is only 1.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on December 27, 2021, 04:46:35 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on December 26, 2021, 09:26:31 AM

Quote from: Newlifebtc on December 26, 2021, 08:32:33 AM

Much eyes on Barcelona and Xavi Hernandez, failing to realize he just came in and ain't no magician. Take a good look at Athletico Madrid who should be dominating the La liga, they have failed woefully,game's after game's. They should try to keep up else Barcelona will come ahead of them in a short time. They must have lost drive.

Barcelona was in a terrible state before tht arrival of Xavi. And he is just trying his possible best to put Barca back on track. But, what people don't understand is that this will take some time. Atletico Madrid performance are poor, they lost all their last 4 matches, and one of the problem Atletico seems to have is are defense. However, If Barcelona play their next matches without losing, they will surely take over Atletico Madrid's place.

Indeed,Xavi is really doing a great job at Barcelona,bringing these young players together and trying his possible best to make them live up to expectation from their fans.
I so much trust the process,I believe in Xavi that he is taking Barcelona to a greater heights,to their former tiki-taka pattern of football.

I think that with such a good squad, Atletico Madrid should not continue to lose at such a pace and continue its terrible streak, so it's not a fact that Barcelona will get ahead of Atletico. Atletico Madrid was not so hopeless in its lost matches, so it has clear prospects for improving its results and improving its tournament positions. Xavi Hernandez still has a lot of work to do to build the team's game and therefore it is unlikely that the results will be stable. A lot depends on the transfer company, because betting on young players is dangerous because of the inconstancy of the level of the game being shown. The club needs a fusion of the wisdom of experience and the enthusiasm of youth to improve its tournament positions.

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