La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3872.

hd49728

legendary

Activity: 2044

Merit: 1018

Not your keys, not your coins!

Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 29, 2021, 10:20:36 AM

Champion league is best achievement for every club and give much income when participating on this event except Barcelona as historical club have many champion league trophies.

You are mixing two different things. Current income from current season and result in Champions League matches are different than past trophies. Barcelona won't earn any additional income from their past trophies in Champions League. I know that can sell tickets for visitors to visit their club, Hall of fame, etc. but such activities and income are seriously affected by the pandemic. It is also now what you talked about.

Quote

I think they have two way for participating in champion league next year, first should success finish on top four position standing in La Liga or try other way become the champion on Europe League if failed on La Liga standing top four position they still get chance for next years pass to champion league with Europe League way.

It is very risky to bet all in Europa League. Even if they bet it and focus all resources for Europa League, they might fail too. We already see in this season how easily Barcelona can be beaten by small and medium clubs. Since they are falling down in quality, opponents don't need to be Real Madrid, Bayern or top notch clubs to beat Barcelona.

rahmad2nd

legendary

Activity: 2548

Merit: 1009

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: bestcoins1 on December 29, 2021, 06:48:22 AM

Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2021, 08:28:27 PM

The opportunity to play in the UEFA Champions League next season is still wide open for Barcelona, but that's how they can take advantage of every game in La Liga. There is still plenty of time to improve their performance. I'm sure they'll be able to get out of what they're going through now.
Apart from that I agree with your opinion, they are only a few points behind, it is not impossible with 1 or 2 games they can improve their position in the standings.

In general, everyone always takes into account the Champions League in a football club because it is a big event that is often inhabited by big clubs too, so it will be very painful if a football club that used to be strong but for now is not included in the realm of the Champions League even though Barcelona is also a big club in the arena of football.

Champion league is best achievement for every club and give much income when participating on this event except Barcelona as historical club have many champion league trophies. I think they have two way for participating in champion league next year, first should success finish on top four position standing in La Liga or try other way become the champion on Europe League if failed on La Liga standing top four position they still get chance for next years pass to champion league with Europe League way.

KingsDen

legendary

Activity: 1302

Merit: 1089

Goodnight, o_e_l_e_o 🌹

Quote from: sana54210 on December 28, 2021, 04:12:43 PM

...Plus they need to get the team younger anyway, sell some of those pique or busquets type of old players and get these youngsters to be honest and that will always cost them money.

Getting the team is a good step, especially when we are looking at the future profits. Maybe in the next 3-4yrs, the young players would become great assets. If it's to remain in the club, they will be formidable. I'd it's also to be sold out, they will return much on investment.

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

It is a hard financial decision. Then, they also need to take some hard managerial decisions. Maybe they will learn not to hand some players 5 yrs contracts, making it look like a life contract, like that of Messi. A two years contract is sufficient because of their situation. If the player becomes outstanding, contract can be extended.

paxmao

legendary

Activity: 2394

Merit: 1632

Do not die for Putin

Quote from: AndySt on December 28, 2021, 06:40:34 PM

Quote from: snipie on December 28, 2021, 06:12:55 PM

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

The decision to get a good player is justified in my opinion but increasing the wage volume shouldn't be accepted too. They have to get ride of some useless players for real and bring young and useful ones to guarantee the future of the club. Other than that, it is a suicide.

If the transfer took place, then Barcelona knows how it will be able to compensate for this acquisition and this does not contradict the principles of financial fair play. Also, do not forget that in addition to the transfer of Torres, Barcelona is trying to seriously apply for the purchase of Haaland. In any case, we are talking about borrowed funds, which will then need to be returned, despite all sorts of preferential loan terms and Barcelona will have to earn these funds. And in order to earn these funds, Barcelona must overcome its problems and start winning titles again as before. Another question is that it's scary to imagine what will happen if it doesn't work out.

Barca is getting just one shot to correct their poor performance this year and if it misses the effects will be felt next year as well. In fact it may be too late to correct at all the current year. Too little, too late... not the best move, not the best financial situation. All this is not proper for a team like Barca as they should have enough managerial talent to better understand the situation and use the resources more wisely. This is making La Liga a bit boring as Spain mostly depends on having Real and Barca in good shape and then the rest.

bestcoins1

hero member

Activity: 2338

Merit: 737

Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2021, 08:28:27 PM

The opportunity to play in the UEFA Champions League next season is still wide open for Barcelona, but that's how they can take advantage of every game in La Liga. There is still plenty of time to improve their performance. I'm sure they'll be able to get out of what they're going through now.
Apart from that I agree with your opinion, they are only a few points behind, it is not impossible with 1 or 2 games they can improve their position in the standings.

In general, everyone always takes into account the Champions League in a football club because it is a big event that is often inhabited by big clubs too, so it will be very painful if a football club that used to be strong but for now is not included in the realm of the Champions League even though Barcelona is also a big club in the arena of football.

judas

sr. member

Activity: 1064

Merit: 350

In their first game of the new year, Real Madrid are going to play an away game against Getafe. Actually, this is another very comfortable game for Real Madrid. They have shown a huge performance so far in the La Liga. But Real Madrid still should be really careful against Getafe here. Because they are going to be facing an unbeaten team for five weeks in the league. This might improve Getafe's morale in this game against Real Madrid. But I believe that Getafe won't be the team to end Real Madrid's unbeaten streak also. Real Madrid would gain a decent victory unless they underestimate their competitor.

TopT3ns

hero member

Activity: 2548

Merit: 572

#SWGT CERTIK Audited

Quote from: OcTradism on December 29, 2021, 01:34:49 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 28, 2021, 09:56:32 PM

There are still 20 more games to be played by Barcelona, so there is still a very big chance for Barcelona to enter the top 4 to be able to play
in the Champions League next season. But to be able to compete for the La Liga trophy this season is impossible for Barcelona, so indeed finishing
in the top 4 is a reasonable target for Barcelona to achieve this season.

Barcelona don't have more games than other clubs to play in La Liga. They have same total matches to play so it is not advantage for Barcelona.

In addition, if you are a strong team and can manage to win, more available matches to play mean more chances to collect more points. Oppositely, if you are a bad team, more available matches to play means more chances to lose more points and fall further behind other opponents. I believe Barcelona are facing with the second scenario.

Barcelona not get good opportunity right now and out from top four position make them not really happy situation right now, although match begin one week later they have get Ferran Torres from Manchester City and I think still not enough. Many other player want get by Xavi but financial make situation bad for Barcelona, still optimist with fans trusted Barcelona can back to position again? I think many possible for other club change position from Sevilla and Real Betis if keep consistent performance will make Barcelona out from champion league position next years.

hahay

legendary

Activity: 3486

Merit: 1055

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2021, 06:41:59 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2021, 02:25:12 AM

With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

Sure, both Atletico dan Barcelona still have an opportunity to be back at the top four on the table. Point gaps among the teams in 4th-8th aren't quite small, their positions can be changed in 1 or 2 matches only. I am not surprised if Atletico or Barcelona suddenly is in the top four again in the next month (January). I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

Check La Liga fixtures in January 2022
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/spanish-la-liga/fixtures-results/january

Basically these two teams have a high winning mentality and with the current points difference and also, the league still has at least half a season to run. So it is very possible that both Atletico and Barcelona still have a chance to end the season in the top four. The three teams currently above Barcelona who are very likely to be eliminated are Betis, Rayo Vallecano and Real Sociedad, although they are in a better position than Barcelona right now but in reality they are not strong enough to keep their position. I'm sure about that, because the statistical records of their goals and concedes are not much different and even almost the same, then I still believe that a team with a big name and a high winning mentality will still be able to take over the best position in the near future until the end of the season.

Davidvictorson

hero member

Activity: 1190

Merit: 901

Livecasino.io

Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 28, 2021, 09:56:32 PM

Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2021, 08:28:27 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2021, 06:41:59 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2021, 02:25:12 AM

With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

Sure, both Atletico dan Barcelona still have an opportunity to be back at the top four on the table. Point gaps among the teams in 4th-8th aren't quite small, their positions can be changed in 1 or 2 matches only. I am not surprised if Atletico or Barcelona suddenly is in the top four again in the next month (January). I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

Check La Liga fixtures in January 2022
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/spanish-la-liga/fixtures-results/january

The opportunity to play in the UEFA Champions League next season is still wide open for Barcelona, but that's how they can take advantage of every game in La Liga. There is still plenty of time to improve their performance. I'm sure they'll be able to get out of what they're going through now.
Apart from that I agree with your opinion, they are only a few points behind, it is not impossible with 1 or 2 games they can improve their position in the standings.

There are still 20 more games to be played by Barcelona, so there is still a very big chance for Barcelona to enter the top 4 to be able to play
in the Champions League next season. But to be able to compete for the La Liga trophy this season is impossible for Barcelona, so indeed finishing
in the top 4 is a reasonable target for Barcelona to achieve this season. Moreover, the performance of Atlético and Real Sociedad, which is
above Barcelona, continues to decline. While for Betis and Rayo in the next few games it is possible to lose a lot of points. The team that is
above Barcelona maybe only Real Madrid will play consistently, even Sevilla who are in second place I doubt they can play consistently in the next
few games. Most importantly Barcelona just focus on being able to win match as much as possible, and try not to lose a lot of points. That way
Barcelona can definitely finish this season in the top 4.

Making top 4 could be difficult now. Barcelona have more chance winning the Europea league than qualifying through the league bc la liga teams know how Barcelona play and it’s tougher especially the fact the they don’t have a player than can score goals. One of the most important strategies is they want to get to the top again is this- Get debt out the way. Grow youth. Sell away certain players. Renew worthful contracts.

OcTradism

hero member

Activity: 1722

Merit: 801

Quote from: Wawa2013 on December 28, 2021, 09:56:32 PM

There are still 20 more games to be played by Barcelona, so there is still a very big chance for Barcelona to enter the top 4 to be able to play
in the Champions League next season. But to be able to compete for the La Liga trophy this season is impossible for Barcelona, so indeed finishing
in the top 4 is a reasonable target for Barcelona to achieve this season.

Barcelona don't have more games than other clubs to play in La Liga. They have same total matches to play so it is not advantage for Barcelona.

In addition, if you are a strong team and can manage to win, more available matches to play mean more chances to collect more points. Oppositely, if you are a bad team, more available matches to play means more chances to lose more points and fall further behind other opponents. I believe Barcelona are facing with the second scenario.

alpamar99

full member

Activity: 1092

Merit: 106

Quote from: AndySt on December 28, 2021, 06:40:34 PM

Quote from: snipie on December 28, 2021, 06:12:55 PM

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

The decision to get a good player is justified in my opinion but increasing the wage volume shouldn't be accepted too. They have to get ride of some useless players for real and bring young and useful ones to guarantee the future of the club. Other than that, it is a suicide.

If the transfer took place, then Barcelona knows how it will be able to compensate for this acquisition and this does not contradict the principles of financial fair play. Also, do not forget that in addition to the transfer of Torres, Barcelona is trying to seriously apply for the purchase of Haaland. In any case, we are talking about borrowed funds, which will then need to be returned, despite all sorts of preferential loan terms and Barcelona will have to earn these funds. And in order to earn these funds, Barcelona must overcome its problems and start winning titles again as before. Another question is that it's scary to imagine what will happen if it doesn't work out.

What Barcelona are doing at this time can actually be said to be quite brave because they actually made a decision which was actually extreme for their current condition.
this is a gamble that will definitely affect their future today. they bet with very small odds hoping to profit from the loan by betting the title which is now quite difficult to win

Wawa2013

sr. member

Activity: 1666

Merit: 268

Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2021, 08:28:27 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2021, 06:41:59 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2021, 02:25:12 AM

With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

Sure, both Atletico dan Barcelona still have an opportunity to be back at the top four on the table. Point gaps among the teams in 4th-8th aren't quite small, their positions can be changed in 1 or 2 matches only. I am not surprised if Atletico or Barcelona suddenly is in the top four again in the next month (January). I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

Check La Liga fixtures in January 2022
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/spanish-la-liga/fixtures-results/january

The opportunity to play in the UEFA Champions League next season is still wide open for Barcelona, but that's how they can take advantage of every game in La Liga. There is still plenty of time to improve their performance. I'm sure they'll be able to get out of what they're going through now.
Apart from that I agree with your opinion, they are only a few points behind, it is not impossible with 1 or 2 games they can improve their position in the standings.

There are still 20 more games to be played by Barcelona, so there is still a very big chance for Barcelona to enter the top 4 to be able to play
in the Champions League next season. But to be able to compete for the La Liga trophy this season is impossible for Barcelona, so indeed finishing
in the top 4 is a reasonable target for Barcelona to achieve this season. Moreover, the performance of Atlético and Real Sociedad, which is
above Barcelona, continues to decline. While for Betis and Rayo in the next few games it is possible to lose a lot of points. The team that is
above Barcelona maybe only Real Madrid will play consistently, even Sevilla who are in second place I doubt they can play consistently in the next
few games. Most importantly Barcelona just focus on being able to win match as much as possible, and try not to lose a lot of points. That way
Barcelona can definitely finish this season in the top 4.

maju69

full member

Activity: 1008

Merit: 104

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2021, 06:41:59 PM

Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2021, 02:25:12 AM

With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

Sure, both Atletico dan Barcelona still have an opportunity to be back at the top four on the table. Point gaps among the teams in 4th-8th aren't quite small, their positions can be changed in 1 or 2 matches only. I am not surprised if Atletico or Barcelona suddenly is in the top four again in the next month (January). I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

Check La Liga fixtures in January 2022
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/spanish-la-liga/fixtures-results/january

The opportunity to play in the UEFA Champions League next season is still wide open for Barcelona, but that's how they can take advantage of every game in La Liga. There is still plenty of time to improve their performance. I'm sure they'll be able to get out of what they're going through now.
Apart from that I agree with your opinion, they are only a few points behind, it is not impossible with 1 or 2 games they can improve their position in the standings.

bestcoins1

hero member

Activity: 2338

Merit: 737

Quote from: naira on December 28, 2021, 12:44:45 PM

There is only a chance for Barcelona to take advantage of the opportunity. While Real Sociedad is in a bad state with a disorganized game. Like Real Sociedad's good game at the beginning, it was like they lost the confidence to play at the end. Even though they had been relied on and used as a strong competitor. but here they will return to follow the history that can not be written on the table.

The badness experienced by Real Sociedad is also almost similar to that experienced by Barcelona where last year and this year the strength was very unbalanced even though Barcelona was a football team that was once strong in the history of the Spanish league and also in the Champions League, but for now the comparison of its strengths it's so far away.

tulusikhlas

sr. member

Activity: 1526

Merit: 252

Quote from: snipie on December 28, 2021, 06:12:55 PM

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

The decision to get a good player is justified in my opinion but increasing the wage volume shouldn't be accepted too. They have to get ride of some useless players for real and bring young and useful ones to guarantee the future of the club. Other than that, it is a suicide.

Yes, in addition to improving from a financial perspective, young players can also be an option to improve the game. Yes, it will be a little difficult to find talented young players. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to try. Some big clubs also don't just rely on players who are good in terms of value, they also look at their academy. In addition, young players can also be the future of the club, not just one or two seasons.

Rengga Jati

hero member

Activity: 2156

Merit: 670

Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2021, 06:41:59 PM

..I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

I think so. The next three matches on January, Rayo Vallecano really must show what they can do to maintain their position in top four. But it seems very difficult to see because some big clubs that will be faced. Even now they are on top four, but from the previous matches, we can see he data from what clubs they could win and made some chances to be in top four. And moreover Atletico and Barcelona will exactly try not to miss the chance to win from Rayo Vallecano in order to higher their rank of position. Moreover if Atletico can win from Rayo Vallecano in the next match, automatically Atletico will rise up to 4th position.

kawetsriyanto

legendary

Activity: 2450

Merit: 1140

duelbits.com

Quote from: hahay on December 28, 2021, 02:25:12 AM

With both Atletico and Barcelona improving and dropping so far, the reality is that they still have a chance of finishing in the top four, so if it was just about overtaking it would be fine if they could finish in the top four in the end.

Sure, both Atletico dan Barcelona still have an opportunity to be back at the top four on the table. Point gaps among the teams in 4th-8th aren't quite small, their positions can be changed in 1 or 2 matches only. I am not surprised if Atletico or Barcelona suddenly is in the top four again in the next month (January). I assume Rayo Vallecano will be out of the top four soon because they may lose points against Atletico, Barcelona, and Real Betis in January. It is a real chance for Atletico dan Barcelona to be back at the UCL zone.

Check La Liga fixtures in January 2022
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/spanish-la-liga/fixtures-results/january

AndySt

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1012

Quote from: snipie on December 28, 2021, 06:12:55 PM

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

The decision to get a good player is justified in my opinion but increasing the wage volume shouldn't be accepted too. They have to get ride of some useless players for real and bring young and useful ones to guarantee the future of the club. Other than that, it is a suicide.

If the transfer took place, then Barcelona knows how it will be able to compensate for this acquisition and this does not contradict the principles of financial fair play. Also, do not forget that in addition to the transfer of Torres, Barcelona is trying to seriously apply for the purchase of Haaland. In any case, we are talking about borrowed funds, which will then need to be returned, despite all sorts of preferential loan terms and Barcelona will have to earn these funds. And in order to earn these funds, Barcelona must overcome its problems and start winning titles again as before. Another question is that it's scary to imagine what will happen if it doesn't work out.

snipie

legendary

Activity: 3178

Merit: 1140

#SWGT CERTIK Audited

Quote from: Yogee on December 28, 2021, 04:58:19 PM

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

The decision to get a good player is justified in my opinion but increasing the wage volume shouldn't be accepted too. They have to get ride of some useless players for real and bring young and useful ones to guarantee the future of the club. Other than that, it is a suicide.

Yogee

sr. member

Activity: 1554

Merit: 413

Quote from: KingsDen on December 28, 2021, 02:45:26 PM

....
I really need to understand what is meant by Barcelona's financial problem. They spent above 50 million euros and yet they are in financial problem.
I even saw on one Facebook ad where Barcelona is among if not the richest club in Europe.
So, they will have to explain to us how someone will be a debtor and same time rich

Their financial troubles started after the players disagreed to another salary deduction last year. The club handed out huge contracts to these players and they are required to pay them 100% but the money coming in from ticket sales dropped significantly. They sold many players like Luis Suarez in an attempt to inject more cash but they also handed out more lucrative contracts to the remaining players.

The money used to buy Ferran came from a bank loan. You may not like it but it's a hard financial decision they have to make for the future of the club. Only time will tell if that will pay off or not.

Topic: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3872. (Read 531408 times)