La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4546.

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Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.

they draw and I lost money:

It was a very tiring game to watch, I gave up watching it when I realized that the bad course the game will not change and I regret having bet on this game. It seemed that the players were amateur players who were playing some friendly game.

Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team...

it seems to me that with each game they are starting to drop their performance, last game they lost against Eibar by 2 - 0 and I lost money.

Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

Not even that event helped Atletico Madrid win the game, In the next game Atletico Madrid will play against Real Madrid and I hope Real Madrid win

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Quote from: watergold on January 26, 2020, 09:19:29 AM

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Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.
Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team in the relegation zone and I see Leganes continue to survive and none of the goals are created.
At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

I like that at the moment there are many surprises, big teams don't always dominate, the best opportunities for Real Madrid, but is it possible Real Madrid will experience the same thing as Barcelona and Altetico Madrid?

In every game there are always surprises.
Valladolid will host Real Madrid tonight. I believe Real Madrid will not have the bad luck they have because Real Madrid has a commitment to win to catch Barcelona.

but if you look at Real Madrid statistics, they are also not so good often losing points in their last few games. Even when Real Madrid away against Alaves and Mallorca, Real Madrid lost even though both of them were the bottom-tier teams. even when playing at home they still often get draws.

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Quote from: alisonwonder on January 26, 2020, 08:39:32 AM

Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.
Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team in the relegation zone and I see Leganes continue to survive and none of the goals are created.
At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

I like that at the moment there are many surprises, big teams don't always dominate, the best opportunities for Real Madrid, but is it possible Real Madrid will experience the same thing as Barcelona and Altetico Madrid?

In every game there are always surprises.
Valladolid will host Real Madrid tonight. I believe Real Madrid will not have the bad luck they have because Real Madrid has a commitment to win to catch Barcelona.

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Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.
Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team in the relegation zone and I see Leganes continue to survive and none of the goals are created.
At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

Atletico is awful recently. Lost Super Cup final, loss against Eibar last week. Then loss against 3rd division club in Copa and now draw against one of weakest teams in La Liga. And today they haven't created almost anything dangerous against them. Joao Felix cost them €120 millions, but seems it was big flop.
But after all,I still don't see Simeone being sacked, I doubt it's going to happen soon.

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Quote from: bassbity on January 26, 2020, 08:03:35 AM

Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.
Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team in the relegation zone and I see Leganes continue to survive and none of the goals are created.
At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

I like that at the moment there are many surprises, big teams don't always dominate, the best opportunities for Real Madrid, but is it possible Real Madrid will experience the same thing as Barcelona and Altetico Madrid?

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Atletico Madrid vs Leganes ended in a draw.
Atletico Madrid are unable to defeat a weak team in the relegation zone and I see Leganes continue to survive and none of the goals are created.
At the last minute the goalkeeper Leganes got a red card and I was only at the last minute so it wasn't utilized for Atletico Madrid.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

A lot of people who say i criticize alot, but it was not a game of luck at all.
Valencia played the game the way barcelona took it to them, defend deep, win the first balls, camp barcelona in their halves and force them to make triangular passes.

Its a well deserved victory, and barcelona needs to go back to basics which is a 4,3,3

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I do not agree that barcelona loss was due to bad players, or due to injured players. The truth remains that the new playing pattern could cause more loss before perfection.

Barcelona indeed had more possession, but did little in attack with the ball, using 2 DM, is also a limitation especially when they are not a deep lying midfielder, barcelona made several triangular passes without attacking squarely the valencia box.

I think fans enjoyed the football eitherways, because i cant imagine such a performance

The stage is clear for madrid to pick up 3 points today and lead clear at the top, lets find out what happens btw madrid equally

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Quote from: Murat on January 25, 2020, 10:02:29 PM

Well, And what to say about the new coach of Barcelona, I think they have made a major change during the season because it's really not easy to make up a team during a short time, but when you have a lot of world-class players then the task would be more difficult to set them your own way, this type of experiment could bring a negative result in this season because Real Madrid will not lose any opportunity if Barcelona fall behind the race in the point table, So Setin should not experiment more during this season, otherwise, it would be the worst thing for them.

The wisest thing to do was to have Valverde finish the current season and then sack him but they choose this was and it's going to affect the team because almost every manager has his preferred style of play and most of the play will not be able to adapt quickly to his style mid season.

I agree Valverde should finish until the end of the season because the current change will make Setin have a heavy burden, maybe this bad game isn't because of a coach, but in terms of players who are not good or they need new players in organizing attacks after losing iniesta. because as far as I can see they don't have smart players like iniesta.

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Quote from: Murat on January 25, 2020, 10:02:29 PM

Well, And what to say about the new coach of Barcelona, I think they have made a major change during the season because it's really not easy to make up a team during a short time, but when you have a lot of world-class players then the task would be more difficult to set them your own way, this type of experiment could bring a negative result in this season because Real Madrid will not lose any opportunity if Barcelona fall behind the race in the point table, So Setin should not experiment more during this season, otherwise, it would be the worst thing for them.

The wisest thing to do was to have Valverde finish the current season and then sack him but they choose this was and it's going to affect the team because almost every manager has his preferred style of play and most of the play will not be able to adapt quickly to his style mid season.

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Leganes does not have a very good scoring record in the Spanish La Liga this season, and I think Leganes will struggle to score against Atletico Madrid today since they are playing away from their home stadium. I believe after Atletico Madrid lost their last match by the scoreline of 0-2 to Eibar, the manager of Atletico Madrid would surely want his team to start winning games as fast as possible in order to keep up the chase with the leader on the table.

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Yeah, the barcelona attack is now getting weaker even though I think on the front lines there are good enough Griezmann, Messi, Suarez, but what makes them helpless when dealing with Valencia? perhaps their tactics are gone?
I think Barcelona should look for midfielders whose criteria like Xavi or Ineasta have the accuracy and strong central defense,

Suarez is injured, but it's true they shouldn't be so bad on the attacker's side, but since losing a central midfielder like Iniesta and Xavi they are like losing the heart of the game. I agree they only need a central midfielder like their predecessors, I'm sure they will be better because yesterday Tiki-Taka has returned. is the new coach still considered reasonable because this is the first time? or indeed players who like don't have the fighting power?

The tiki-taka game depends on the coach. If you don't like the new trainer in the tiki-taka style, it won't be displayed in every game because they will play in their own way.
Well what I say is, the central midfielder must be strengthened if necessary to buy with popular players and can adapt to Barcelona.

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Quote from: $crypto$ on January 25, 2020, 09:11:22 PM

Yeah, the barcelona attack is now getting weaker even though I think on the front lines there are good enough Griezmann, Messi, Suarez, but what makes them helpless when dealing with Valencia? perhaps their tactics are gone?
I think Barcelona should look for midfielders whose criteria like Xavi or Ineasta have the accuracy and strong central defense,

Suarez is injured, but it's true they shouldn't be so bad on the attacker's side, but since losing a central midfielder like Iniesta and Xavi they are like losing the heart of the game. I agree they only need a central midfielder like their predecessors, I'm sure they will be better because yesterday Tiki-Taka has returned. is the new coach still considered reasonable because this is the first time? or indeed players who like don't have the fighting power?

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Well, And what to say about the new coach of Barcelona, I think they have made a major change during the season because it's really not easy to make up a team during a short time, but when you have a lot of world-class players then the task would be more difficult to set them your own way, this type of experiment could bring a negative result in this season because Real Madrid will not lose any opportunity if Barcelona fall behind the race in the point table, So Setin should not experiment more during this season, otherwise, it would be the worst thing for them.

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Yeah, the barcelona attack is now getting weaker even though I think on the front lines there are good enough Griezmann, Messi, Suarez, but what makes them helpless when dealing with Valencia? perhaps their tactics are gone?
I think Barcelona should look for midfielders whose criteria like Xavi or Ineasta have the accuracy and strong central defense,

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Quote from: webtricks on January 25, 2020, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

Stats may say otherwise but Barcelona played awful today. Under Quique Setien, Barcelona find the way to pass quickly between players but where is the final product? Just for an example, out of 14 shots Barcelona registered 11 came from Messi. He was only active player for Barcelona today apart from Ter Stegen. But his performance was also below par. He missed all his 11 shots. He failed to convert any of the 4 free kicks (one was only 21m away). When you are Lionel Messi, fans expect better from you.

So in the nutshell, coach changed but situation isn't.
Messi's Good Day = Barca's Good Day
Messi's Bad Day = Barca's Awful Day

that is correct , the tiki-taka maybe comeback in quique setien hands.
but the fans always want more , they wanted a working tiki-taka along with good result.

bad result so far , if the fans did not patient enough then i guess setien won't last longer at barcelona as other permanent coach candidate are in the queue like pochettino. xavi and a comeback of pep guardiola in the summer could likely happened.

just a bad luck, 2-0 for valencia is a well deserved one for the home team.

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The so-called favorite of Barcelona, which seems to be a favorite, was scattered away as you know, I have not seen anything like this. In every pass, Messi sought to defeat if a team revolves around so much messi.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

as a Valencia CF fan, i can say that VCF wanted win more than Barca, and that was the main reason for the win, it was a tied match, but first goal, which was own goal by Alba, was decision maker, and after that VCF was a bit better, which was not the case between missed penalty and first goal...

now we have to catch spot 4, to secure Champions league next season...

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Quote from: worle1bm on January 25, 2020, 01:20:11 PM

Semedo should start over Roberto. Under Setien, Alba is deployed mainly as a midfielder. This creates extra pressure on back three so Barcelona needs quick feet at Right Back. Semedo is better than Roberto when it comes to speed, also he can move ball more swiftly through right wing and combine with Messi/Fati.

Second problem is in forward line. Griezmann was mostly invisible. Fati's lack of experience was clearly visible. Fati has a potential to be the player for future but certainly not a starter at the moment. Barcelona urgently needs someone who can actually beat the full-backs of opponent and enter in the box. Does that remind about anyone to you? Yes, Dembele! His presence is very much needed in the absence of Suarez,

Very good points and I agree with you. I'm not only sure about Dembele. He is injured again and he will return just after few weeks. Dembele is very talented player, but he is still far away from Suarez level, maybe because of his attitude. I doubt that he would be game-changer today.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

The stats didn't justify what really happened during the match, Valencia were totally deserved winners of match, Barca were awful in the first half, the entire team looked very sluggish and were extremely lucky not to have been 2 - 3 goals down before the break. After the break, Barca seemed to have found their rhythm and were close to scoring just before Valencia's first goal which made the task a bit more difficult, Introduction of Vidal positively influenced Barcelona's performance but that wasn't enough to save the day. Ter Stegen was the best player for Barcelona with his stunning saves, there was absolutely nothing he could about either goals.

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