La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 490.

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I criticized Girona's start and they won two games in a row. I had better do this more often to see them like this. Tongue

But jokes aside, I hope they maintain a good form despite a huge squad change after the recent transfers.

They still keep the same manager which is a plus of course. The only thing they need to do is to have that strong chemistry again. I believe they still have capable players after those signings. Finishing the season in top four twice in a row won't be easy work at all. For teams like these especially I mean. Sad

Besides they are going to compete in the Champions League at the same time. I wonder how the manager Michel will handle this very busy schedule...

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Quote from: Farma on September 11, 2024, 05:24:40 AM

Individually Julián Alvarez is quite good, it has been proven in the last few seasons when he was with Man City or the Argentina national team, but now Julián Alvarez clearly needs time to adapt to his new team Atletico Madrid and the different atmosphere of La Liga

It was actually quite surprising, when he was in Man City's big team and moved to a Spain team that was not a champion team. He is brave enough to take risks to compete to become a better player. Indeed, when at Man City he lost to Haaland.
If you look at the current condition, he has not been able to perform optimally. In 4 matches he has not been able to score. But at 24 years old, I think there's still plenty of time to prove that he's a good striker. He needs adaptation and I think Atletico Madrid's support for the game is not as good as when he was at Man City.

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Quote from: Farma on September 11, 2024, 05:24:40 AM

Individually Julián Alvarez is quite good, it has been proven in the last few seasons when he was with Man City or the Argentina national team, but now Julián Alvarez clearly needs time to adapt to his new team Atletico Madrid and the different atmosphere of La Liga football compared to the Premier League, so I think we don't need to be too early to sort Julián Alvarez, I am sure he will be able to develop and make a big contribution to the Atletico Madrid team because Julián Alvarez is a player with quite a lot of potential.

He is a good player with very cold mentality and great finishing skills but he is not a kind of player who can self-create opportunity and score goals. It means you must have a good system around Julian Alvarez to support him with space, passes and assists, then he can score goals for you.

I don't deny Alvarez is not a good player, because it does not make sense at all, but in my opinion, Atletico Madrid actually overspent for the transfer of Alvarez from Manchester City. They failed with Joao Felix and did not learn from that lesson and as analyzed, Alvarez is not a player who deserves that very expensive transfer cost. At the age of Alvarez, I believe that nearly all of his potential was already shown.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 11, 2024, 04:10:52 AM

I would say Alvarez should be given more time and opportunities. Alvarez played with Manchester City for a long time. The gameplay of Premier League and La Liga are not the same. So Alvarez needs some time to adapt to La Liga's gameplay and tactics. Alvarez has shown that he is a talented player. He scored several important goals with Manchester City and led the team to victory. Alvarez played as Haaland's replacement last season. Still, he managed to score a lot of goals and assists.

Alvarez was bought by Atletico Madrid for a huge price. Atlético Madrid spent 75 million on Alvarez. So naturally, Atletico Madrid have high expectations from Alvarez. But Alvarez could not score a goal or assist in four games. Atletico Madrid coach Simeone is Argentine. Simeone should keep an eye on Alvarez. If Alvarez can quickly adapt to Atletico Madrid's performance, Atletico Madrid's attack will become even stronger. I'd say we'll see a better performance from Alvarez after the international break.

Individually Julián Alvarez is quite good, it has been proven in the last few seasons when he was with Man City or the Argentina national team, but now Julián Alvarez clearly needs time to adapt to his new team Atletico Madrid and the different atmosphere of La Liga football compared to the Premier League, so I think we don't need to be too early to sort Julián Alvarez, I am sure he will be able to develop and make a big contribution to the Atletico Madrid team because Julián Alvarez is a player with quite a lot of potential.

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Alvarez scored a very impressive goal for the national team, but in Atletico he does not have such a high status, although he is a friend (and if I am not mistaken a relative) of Semione. In addition to Griezmann, they also have the recently acquired Sørloth, who will also be his competitor, and I do not think that Semione has guaranteed him a place in the starting lineup, for this he will have to show the best game he can, and high competition in the team can be to the advantage of the club, since each player will want to show his best game.

I would say Alvarez should be given more time and opportunities. Alvarez played with Manchester City for a long time. The gameplay of Premier League and La Liga are not the same. So Alvarez needs some time to adapt to La Liga's gameplay and tactics. Alvarez has shown that he is a talented player. He scored several important goals with Manchester City and led the team to victory. Alvarez played as Haaland's replacement last season. Still, he managed to score a lot of goals and assists.

Alvarez was bought by Atletico Madrid for a huge price. Atlético Madrid spent 75 million on Alvarez. So naturally, Atletico Madrid have high expectations from Alvarez. But Alvarez could not score a goal or assist in four games. Atletico Madrid coach Simeone is Argentine. Simeone should keep an eye on Alvarez. If Alvarez can quickly adapt to Atletico Madrid's performance, Atletico Madrid's attack will become even stronger. I'd say we'll see a better performance from Alvarez after the international break.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on September 11, 2024, 01:42:31 AM

I had so many expectations for De jong's career in Barcelona. I thought he'd be one of the best midfielders ever there. But, his injury is now ruining him. His ankle injury is cooking his career. Sad to see him like this, and it gives bad impact to the Barcelona.

Barcelona should have sold De jong when he was not injured last months. He out for months, he has very high wages, and that's pretty obvious he won't be fit again. I think he is a finished player now.

I saw De jong more likele Umtiti 2.0 or another Ansu Fati.

De Jong has contributed greatly to Barcelona, he is always consistent in the game and has managed to guard the midfield well. The injury he suffered was a big loss for Barcelona because he had been a key player who was difficult to replace, but recently Barcelona has started to find other talented young players from La Masia to replace his role in midfield.

Barcelona had put De Jong on their transfer list, but the player refused to leave Camp Nou. Barcelona's financial problems have forced them to stabilize the club's expenses, selling De Jong could ease the burden on the club as he is the highest paid player in their squad. De Jong's contract with Barcelona will expire in the summer of 2026, if the player is not willing to extend his contract then Barcelona must sell him before his contract ends.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 11, 2024, 12:38:47 AM

People's expectations of Real Madrid are too high because this club has the best players in it, --cut--

Can you blame people who expect so much from Real Madrid? I don't think it's an exceptional team.
Regarding the 5 points less, it fits right now: remember that Real Madrid is mainly focused on the Champions League and if they have any energy left on La Liga.
The strategy is very clear.

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Before the start of the 2024 25 season, Barcelona did not look like a very strong team. Due to the way Real Madrid built the team, a competitive team like Real Madrid was not second in La Liga but the new season has started with Barcelona performing well compared to Real Madrid. When discussing the performances of Barcelona and Real Madrid, Barcelona's success in the first four matches will certainly not be at the center of the discussion. Barcelona have won four out of the first four matches and they are at the number one position in the points table while Real Madrid are at the second position in the points table with 4 points less than Barcelona.
Falling four points behind at the start of the season means a lot and if Barcelona are consistent, Real Madrid will not be able to recover this point gap even if they perform well later on.

Regardless of the close positions of the two teams, it certainly makes Barcelona, who have higher points, still considered unsafe. They certainly need continuous wins to be more free to occupy the top of the standings. Imao the pressure is on Barcelona to continue not to be careless while Madrid faces the challenge of being able to recover from the situation. The reason Madrid is challenged is because before the season started everyone was very optimistic about the squad they built, therefore there is no other choice but to prove that many people's expectations of Madrid squad this season must be fulfilled.
Madrid is currently in a player crisis but at least their finances can speak more, while Barcelona, whether they want to or not, the tight schedule needs to do a lot of saving energy and players because the club's finances are in a situation that does not allow aggressive spending anymore.

People's expectations of Real Madrid are too high because this club has the best players in it, while many people doubt Barcelona's abilities until finally Barcelona and its coach proved that even without expensive players and the best players they can still work optimally to get points in every match.
However, time is still long, both Real Madrid and Barcelona are always the favorite clubs to be at the top for me, Barcelona or Real Madrid are the same, La Liga's dominance is always between the two.
I am actually looking forward to a club that will appear surprising this season and can make it difficult for Real Madrid or Barcelona like Girona last season but unfortunately Girona has not performed optimally this season, this club is already 5 points behind Barcelona, I think losing Artem Dovbyk has a big influence because this player created many victories for Girona last season.

You have said it all that Real Madeid and Barcelona are Laliga favorites so what is making you to expect aa surprise from other clubs to win the league when you knlw that it is not possible. Laliga title competition is between Real Madrid and Barcelona, i dont think that any other club can win the title apart from two of them. Barcelona is doing fine without big players and that shows that they got the best coach to handle the job and the right players. However, i will say that everything is going rossy for them now does not mean that they will not be faced with their own challenges this season.

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2 very profitable matches and we can't miss them because the odds are tempting. However, in the Madrid match that will face Real Sociedad, it could be a surprise. Madrid currently has several injured players and of course the performance of Ancelotti squad has declined very deeply. A draw can be considered but for the best betting option it seems to be on a safer score. And the Barcelona match that will face Girona, seems to have no doubts about betting on Barcelona's victory which is currently very consistent. Compared to Girona, it seems to have lost its best performance like last season and this season Barcelona will avenge the defeat that Girona had last season. Odds @1.85 for Barcelona are very tempting.

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Quote from: ancafe on September 11, 2024, 02:37:12 AM

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But in fact is the arrival of them still haven't give significant progress for Atletico Madrid because Alexander Sørloth only can scored 1 goal even Julian Alvarez still unable to scores although Simeone always give Julian Alvarez opportunity to play but until now Julian Alvarez still hard to adapt with Atletico Madrid and Laliga atmosphere and this weekend i expect they can performing well and scores when Atletico Madrid fight against Valencia

It should be much easier for both to adapt to the team but what happened was the opposite and maybe it takes time for both of them to be in their best form. Three matches have taken place but Julian Alvarez still has not shown consistency and even they are still in the shadow of players like Griezmann, Llorente and Koke. This week Atletico Madrid will face Valencia and overall this will be an easy match for Atletico Madrid because Valencia is a team that is inconsistent at the bottom of the standings.

But the highlight is how Julian Alvarez can play optimally and is able to prove himself as a good player. Being in the top three of the standings will be something to wanted by many teams and Atletico Madrid will also have to be consistent if they want to compete for the title with other strong teams.

It will not be easy for Julian Alvarez to adapt, he still needs time to unite chemistry with other Atletico Madrid players, and I think that is a natural thing.
Atletico Madrid this season has made many changes compared to last season and it is seen that the changes they made are in a more positive direction, making it very likely that Atletico Madrid can compete fiercely in the title race this season.

For this weekend's match against Valencia, it doesn't seem that difficult for Atletico Madrid, in terms of overall team strength Atletico Madrid is much stronger, especially since Valencia at the beginning of this season has not found its best performance.

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Quote from: ancafe on September 11, 2024, 02:37:12 AM

It should be much easier for both to adapt to the team but what happened was the opposite and maybe it takes time for both of them to be in their best form. Three matches have taken place but Julian Alvarez still has not shown consistency and even they are still in the shadow of players like Griezmann, Llorente and Koke. This week Atletico Madrid will face Valencia and overall this will be an easy match for Atletico Madrid because Valencia is a team that is inconsistent at the bottom of the standings.

But the highlight is how Julian Alvarez can play optimally and is able to prove himself as a good player. Being in the top three of the standings will be something to wanted by many teams and Atletico Madrid will also have to be consistent if they want to compete for the title with other strong teams.

Alvarez scored a very impressive goal for the national team, but in Atletico he does not have such a high status, although he is a friend (and if I am not mistaken a relative) of Semione. In addition to Griezmann, they also have the recently acquired Sørloth, who will also be his competitor, and I do not think that Semione has guaranteed him a place in the starting lineup, for this he will have to show the best game he can, and high competition in the team can be to the advantage of the club, since each player will want to show his best game.

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Quote from: bering on September 11, 2024, 01:43:35 AM

But in fact is the arrival of them still haven't give significant progress for Atletico Madrid because Alexander Sørloth only can scored 1 goal even Julian Alvarez still unable to scores although Simeone always give Julian Alvarez opportunity to play but until now Julian Alvarez still hard to adapt with Atletico Madrid and Laliga atmosphere and this weekend i expect they can performing well and scores when Atletico Madrid fight against Valencia

It should be much easier for both to adapt to the team but what happened was the opposite and maybe it takes time for both of them to be in their best form. Three matches have taken place but Julian Alvarez still has not shown consistency and even they are still in the shadow of players like Griezmann, Llorente and Koke. This week Atletico Madrid will face Valencia and overall this will be an easy match for Atletico Madrid because Valencia is a team that is inconsistent at the bottom of the standings.

But the highlight is how Julian Alvarez can play optimally and is able to prove himself as a good player. Being in the top three of the standings will be something to wanted by many teams and Atletico Madrid will also have to be consistent if they want to compete for the title with other strong teams.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 11, 2024, 12:38:47 AM

However, time is still long, both Real Madrid and Barcelona are always the favorite clubs to be at the top for me, Barcelona or Real Madrid are the same, La Liga's dominance is always between the two.
I am actually looking forward to a club that will appear surprising this season and can make it difficult for Real Madrid or Barcelona like Girona last season but unfortunately Girona has not performed optimally this season, this club is already 5 points behind Barcelona, I think losing Artem Dovbyk has a big influence because this player created many victories for Girona last season.

In addition to the two favorite clubs, I will still include Atletico Madrid as one of the teams that will also have the same opportunity and be a fairly difficult obstacle for Madrid and Barcelona. As for Girona, it is not easy to be consistent if their spearhead has left for another club. They can still improve themselves this season, but they will not be as consistent as last season. It is better for Girona to focus on staying in the circle of the three clubs (Madrid, Barcelona, and Atletico Madrid). Because the competition between the 3 clubs requires one of the mediators and Girona has a place in the top 4 if they try their best.

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Actually on the paper Atletico Madrid front lines is very dangerous because they have Alexander Sørloth and Julian Alvarez and just like we know Julian Alvarez is the most expensive player who Atletico Madrid bought this season and Alexander Sørloth is Villarreal top scorer in Laliga with 23 goals so i was imagine these players can scores a lot of goals with Atletico Madrid and help this team to gets the winning results for each matches

But in fact is the arrival of them still haven't give significant progress for Atletico Madrid because Alexander Sørloth only can scored 1 goal even Julian Alvarez still unable to scores although Simeone always give Julian Alvarez opportunity to play but until now Julian Alvarez still hard to adapt with Atletico Madrid and Laliga atmosphere and this weekend i expect they can performing well and scores when Atletico Madrid fight against Valencia

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Quote from: Rustam Meraj on September 10, 2024, 08:36:54 PM

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Frenkie de Jong was got long term injured and since April this year he cannot playing for Barcelona and the reason why he refuse to surgery because there was no guarantee if he did surgery his injured will be recover quickly even there is possibility after surgery then the injury recovery period could be longer than expected so he doesn't want this happend to him so that's why although Barcelona suggest him to surgery then he refuse that

Actually the future of Frenkie de Jong also still uncertain because although Barcelona has been offering new contract to him but until now he still hasn't signing new contract yet and even there is a rumour that if Frenkie de Jong refuse contract extended which given by Barcelona then he would be sell for next summer

I think Frenkie de Jong is right to be careful about his injury. He does not want to have surgery if it might not help him get better quickly. But this combined with him not signing new contract with Barcelona makes me wonder if he will stay with club. If he does not sign contract Barcelona might sell him next summer. De Jong needs to think about his health and his career. He should think carefully about whether surgery is good idea and make decision that is best for his health and his future in football.

I had so many expectations for De jong's career in Barcelona. I thought he'd be one of the best midfielders ever there. But, his injury is now ruining him. His ankle injury is cooking his career. Sad to see him like this, and it gives bad impact to the Barcelona.

Barcelona should have sold De jong when he was not injured last months. He out for months, he has very high wages, and that's pretty obvious he won't be fit again. I think he is a finished player now.

I saw De jong more likele Umtiti 2.0 or another Ansu Fati.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 10, 2024, 06:32:45 PM

For now, Barcelona does have that advantage. At least their points with Real Madrid are still 4 points apart, so Barcelona is quite safe and leading for the early part of this season.

In the next match, both will compete against top clubs too, so this might also prove their strength again.

source: la-Liga fixture-google

While on the other hand, it is very unfortunate, many Real Madrid players are injured, especially their main back line players. Ancelotti must be a bit dizzy with the condition of their defenders at this time because there are indeed many injured main squad, even their reserve players.
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The number of Real Madrid players who are injured will not have a big impact on the team's performance because Ancelotti still has several other options because overall the Real Madrid squad is equal so it will not have a big impact if rotation is done.
At the beginning of this season, Real Madrid's performance has not found its best performance, but I am sure they will be able to recover soon.

This weekend's match Barcelona will prove their true quality, Girona is not an easy opponent but Barcelona is also in their best form at the beginning of this season, so this will be a fierce match.

For betting options, I think the two top La Liga teams Barcelona and Real Madrid are still favored to win the match even though they will face tough opponents, so I think betting on Madrid and Barcelona to win is still quite worth it.

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Dani Olmo immediately made his debut at Barcelona very extraordinary. He managed to score 2 goals at the start of this season with Barcelona. And yes, Hansi Flick certainly feels that he has succeeded in maximizing the transfer market well by persuading Barcelona to bring in Dani Olmo.

But now I have to convey my concerns about the condition of Dani Olmo who was sent home from the national team because he suffered an injury. Which meant he had to go home early and couldn't continue defending the Spanish national team. I hope the injury is not serious. because he is now an important part of the Barcelona squad. But it's not just Barcelona who suffered losses in this international break. Because it seems like Real Madrid also found several of their players returning from injury.

In fact, Barcelona main target in the last summer transfer market was Nico William, but due to the failure to reach an agreement between the two parties, Barcelona shifted its focus to Dani Olmo and succeeded in realizing the transfer. Barcelona struggle in recruiting Dani Olmo was very big, they had to let Gundogan go for free so that Dani Olmo could register with La Liga, Barcelona's struggle was not in vain, he managed to repay that trust with his impressive game.

Hansi Flick ingenuity in utilizing the current squad has seen Barcelona return to their best form, four consecutive wins achieved since the start of the season saw Hansi Flick named La Liga Coach of the month for August. Currently, Dani Olmo is 100% fit, he is ready to play when Barcelona plays against Girona, Hansi Flick must field his best squad when playing away to Girona's headquarters to achieve a fifth consecutive victory since the start of the season.

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Before the start of the 2024 25 season, Barcelona did not look like a very strong team. Due to the way Real Madrid built the team, a competitive team like Real Madrid was not second in La Liga but the new season has started with Barcelona performing well compared to Real Madrid. When discussing the performances of Barcelona and Real Madrid, Barcelona's success in the first four matches will certainly not be at the center of the discussion. Barcelona have won four out of the first four matches and they are at the number one position in the points table while Real Madrid are at the second position in the points table with 4 points less than Barcelona.
Falling four points behind at the start of the season means a lot and if Barcelona are consistent, Real Madrid will not be able to recover this point gap even if they perform well later on.

Regardless of the close positions of the two teams, it certainly makes Barcelona, who have higher points, still considered unsafe. They certainly need continuous wins to be more free to occupy the top of the standings. Imao the pressure is on Barcelona to continue not to be careless while Madrid faces the challenge of being able to recover from the situation. The reason Madrid is challenged is because before the season started everyone was very optimistic about the squad they built, therefore there is no other choice but to prove that many people's expectations of Madrid squad this season must be fulfilled.
Madrid is currently in a player crisis but at least their finances can speak more, while Barcelona, whether they want to or not, the tight schedule needs to do a lot of saving energy and players because the club's finances are in a situation that does not allow aggressive spending anymore.

People's expectations of Real Madrid are too high because this club has the best players in it, while many people doubt Barcelona's abilities until finally Barcelona and its coach proved that even without expensive players and the best players they can still work optimally to get points in every match.
However, time is still long, both Real Madrid and Barcelona are always the favorite clubs to be at the top for me, Barcelona or Real Madrid are the same, La Liga's dominance is always between the two.
I am actually looking forward to a club that will appear surprising this season and can make it difficult for Real Madrid or Barcelona like Girona last season but unfortunately Girona has not performed optimally this season, this club is already 5 points behind Barcelona, I think losing Artem Dovbyk has a big influence because this player created many victories for Girona last season.

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I think Frenkie de Jong is right to be careful about his injury. He does not want to have surgery if it might not help him get better quickly. But this combined with him not signing new contract with Barcelona makes me wonder if he will stay with club. If he does not sign contract Barcelona might sell him next summer. De Jong needs to think about his health and his career. He should think carefully about whether surgery is good idea and make decision that is best for his health and his future in football.

The susceptibility to injury will make Frenkie de Jong's career not run smoothly because he can't play and that will be a big problem. If I'm not mistaken, this is already the fourth month since he was injured after playing in the El Clasico match so he failed to strengthen the national team. Frenkie de Jong's contract will expire in 2026 and he has not decided to sign a contract extension even though Barcelona has offered him.

Undergoing surgery will heal much faster than using other methods. This is done by professional doctors and almost all football players will undergo surgery when they are injured. But for the injury case experienced by Frenkie de Jong, I don't really know the details as to why he refused to undergo surgery.

De Jong suffered a serious injury and needed a long time to recover, even from some media that I read, De Jong refused to play against Girona because he didn't feel comfortable in his ankle after that long injury, what he did might be a little strange for us because usually every injured player will certainly be willing to undergo surgery for recovery, but in fact De Jong refuses to do it simply because he prefers to carry out conservative treatment at this time, Barcelona who is currently at the top of the standings will face Girona in the next match and I think they still will play without De Jong, Gavi and Araujo in the defend, currently De Jong contract will end in 2026 although Barcelona has continued to force De Jong to extend his contract, but it seems that De Jong is no longer interested in staying, so Barcelona should be able to sell De Jong later rather than having to lose it for free.

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Quote from: Rustam Meraj on September 10, 2024, 08:36:54 PM

I think Frenkie de Jong is right to be careful about his injury. He does not want to have surgery if it might not help him get better quickly. But this combined with him not signing new contract with Barcelona makes me wonder if he will stay with club. If he does not sign contract Barcelona might sell him next summer. De Jong needs to think about his health and his career. He should think carefully about whether surgery is good idea and make decision that is best for his health and his future in football.

The susceptibility to injury will make Frenkie de Jong's career not run smoothly because he can't play and that will be a big problem. If I'm not mistaken, this is already the fourth month since he was injured after playing in the El Clasico match so he failed to strengthen the national team. Frenkie de Jong's contract will expire in 2026 and he has not decided to sign a contract extension even though Barcelona has offered him.

Undergoing surgery will heal much faster than using other methods. This is done by professional doctors and almost all football players will undergo surgery when they are injured. But for the injury case experienced by Frenkie de Jong, I don't really know the details as to why he refused to undergo surgery.

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