I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career. I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player, Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.
Barcelona messed up big time by allowing IIkay Gundogan leave the club as a free agent. He terminated his contract for reasons best known to him and will always have a room to explore options. Manchester City will always have edge over their oppositions in the English Premier League because it's definitely a long competitive run for them. Manchester City coach, Pep Guardiola will reinstate the retired Germany international. He will play key role in the midfield of Manchester City this season.
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In essence, Real Madrid lost balance in midfield due to Tony Kross retirement, so the front line players moved erratically. Coach Ancelotti job now is to immediately fix the format of his players. I think Vinicius and Mbappe need to share a place whether they like it or not because so far Mbappe looks uncomfortable in a central position that is not his specialty. The La Liga season has just started, Ancelotti has enough time to fix the format rather than forcing the Vinicius-Mbappe-Rodrygo formation which clashes with each other and eventually cannot find their best game, unless Mbappe and Vinicius can understand each other.
especially in the accuracy of passing, but at this time they also still have a lot of talented young players who can be used as options and a new attacking style for the midfield of Madrid .
For the current attacking problem Mbappe only has to adapt to his new position and I'm pretty sure he can do that because after all with the solidity of the midfield and attack on both sides I think this will make it easier for Mbappe later. We have to wait for this adaptation and if you've forgotten Benzema was also criticized before finding his prime in Madrid and even considered unfit to be in Madrid because of the difficulty of adapting as a targetman but in the end he was able to do it and I'm sure Mbappe can also do well after adapting to the new position in Madrid goes well .
I just know he will do better in Manchester City than when he was in Barcelona, his coming to Manchester City will be of advantage to his career. I think the decision of coming back to Manchester City is a good one and he will play a good in role for Manchester City because he is a good player, Manchester City already have a coach that can bring more potentials from him. I just hope Barcelona don't regret his leaving to Manchester City. Barcelona really needs to sit up this season because it will be so disappointing if Barcelona ends the season just like they did in last season.
Every player that comes to Manchester City should know what they are coming their for and they must have something to offer the club because with the kind of name that Manchester City have made name for them self and you seen the way Manchester City is always playing you as a player their will just do everything possible to offer something your self. Club matters a lot for players and it will be better for him to play for the city than for Barcelona because productivity matters a lot and if the club is not productive enough it will affect the performance of the players and that is part of the reasons that mbappe decided to go to Real Madrid for the benefit of his own career. Him been a good player, good back to Manchester City will just make him feel better and Reignite The fire in him the once he as wasting when he was in Barcelona now is a better opportunity now to do better, just wondering on the kind of plans that Barcelona are making to perform all this season. They keep encountering challenges.
What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. 
No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.
What is clear is that Barcelona is in quite a hurry to release several players in order to register Dani Olmo in their squad. So Barcelona is selling players who will likely find interest quickly enough. And coincidentally Gundogan was not included in Hansi Flick's plans. So he will be released. And yes, that was lucky for Gundogan. Because actually I think Manchester City would be much better for Gundogan than staying at Barcelona. Because Manchester city is much more stable in every way. And actually at first I thought that Manchester City would not be interested in returning to this player because Manchester City looked fine. But last season, when De Bruyne was still injured, it was quite clear that Manchester City still needed a player like Gundogan. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.Barcelona is no longer interested in him, which is why he was released to Manchester City, but Guadiola is still interested in him and has welcomed him back to the team. Barcelona don't know who will help them, but it is a good decision for leaving Gundogan to leave because they but Olmo and they don't have enough money, definitely they will like to sign some players to get funds, and if Gundogan did not leave Barcelona, he won't get enough time that Xavi is giving him in the club, they have changed coach and he will make his on lineup that he will like and favour him this season.
Gundogan will go and playing in Manchester City but I think he won't still play like before is already growing old and is performance is getting down and am not loving him anymore since he came to Barcelona. Barcelona's roster is performing well this season, and if they continue to win games, they will win the league and have enough finances to recruit new players again. Because I don't think Real Madrid will perform like last this season.
What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.
What is clear is that Barcelona is in quite a hurry to release several players in order to register Dani Olmo in their squad. So Barcelona is selling players who will likely find interest quickly enough. And coincidentally Gundogan was not included in Hansi Flick's plans. So he will be released. And yes, that was lucky for Gundogan. Because actually I think Manchester City would be much better for Gundogan than staying at Barcelona. Because Manchester city is much more stable in every way. And actually at first I thought that Manchester City would not be interested in returning to this player because Manchester City looked fine. But last season, when De Bruyne was still injured, it was quite clear that Manchester City still needed a player like Gundogan. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.
It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.
What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left.
It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.
What I know is that Ilkay Gundogan return to Man City is a blessing for him, even though after his departure at that time Man City remained stable and fine, even without a decline. But the one who lost was Barcelona, instead of selling De Jong, Gundogan was the victim. Statistically Gundogan is much better than De Jong who eats a blind salary, usually sits on the bench and enjoys every week without having to contribute anything to Barcelona. No need to be surprised, Barcelona must have avoided paying players many times and until now has not counted how much Barcelona owes to players who have long left. 
Yes, if you look at the status of the club with a myriad of achievements and filled with star players, Real Madrid management and of course the fans will also be disappointed with the results of the match by only getting 1 point. But this is football, anything can happen on the field, and it is proven, just look at Mallorca's ability to withstand Los Blancos' attacks. and they were able to score an equalizer, football is a team game, Mallorca players played solidly throughout the match. No need to be discouraged, it's natural, this is only the first week of La Liga and there is still plenty of time for Real Madrid to correct mistakes after mistakes,
Madrid is still Madrid where they are still the favorites for this season in the race for the championship so the early matches will not have any effect because it is not necessary for a big team to get full points at the beginning although it is very good but when it can't happen then there is no need to force it and I am still quite sure that sooner or later Madrid will continue to develop and make the same position as the previous season.
Ilkay Gundogan wasn't really worth his money for Barcelona anymore, he didn't feel like he could benefit the team all that much and considering Barcelona is counting the pennies at this point, it's normal that they will want him to leave. City is his old team so leaving for that doesn't mean anything bad for Ilkay neither, that's a good thing for him and will benefit.
I think it's quite important to remember that we are going to end up with a good result, we need to make sure that things doesn't always go too badly, it has to be something that will take a bit of time but won't be that bad and we could probably consider the reality that it will not be easy to handle at all. We need to make sure that things do not look too dumb for them to keep on spending and they are sending him away so it's actually a very good decision. They should get rid of De Jong too if you ask me, he doesn't look that good at the moment and could be used to make some money as well.
I think it's quite important to remember that we are going to end up with a good result, we need to make sure that things doesn't always go too badly, it has to be something that will take a bit of time but won't be that bad and we could probably consider the reality that it will not be easy to handle at all. We need to make sure that things do not look too dumb for them to keep on spending and they are sending him away so it's actually a very good decision. They should get rid of De Jong too if you ask me, he doesn't look that good at the moment and could be used to make some money as well.
Honestly, this is a form of insult to a player's achievements and Gundogan really doesn't deserve this kind of treatment. Barcelona is the worst team so far in dealing with their players' problems and this is proof that they are unable to provide the right solution so that everything can run side by side. Again, what caused this all was because there were some greedy players who didn't want to leave and chose to stay no matter what.
That's Barcelona, a poor club that has lost its way in terms of management. So every decision is always detrimental but for me it doesn't matter because Gundogan departure will actually be positive news for other clubs in La Liga. We know Gundogan role is very important in the midfield which is able to be a balancer and leader but unfortunately Barcelona is Barcelona 
you knowMoreover, Gundogan returns to Manchester City and will make The Citizen stronger, more solid, and more unstoppable. After all Gundogan is still very productive, I am happy that Gundogan is back in the right hands rather than at a club that doesn't know how to utilize great players.
Yes, if you look at the status of the club with a myriad of achievements and filled with star players, Real Madrid management and of course the fans will also be disappointed with the results of the match by only getting 1 point. But this is football, anything can happen on the field, and it is proven, just look at Mallorca's ability to withstand Los Blancos' attacks. and they were able to score an equalizer, football is a team game, Mallorca players played solidly throughout the match. No need to be discouraged, it's natural, this is only the first week of La Liga and there is still plenty of time for Real Madrid to correct mistakes after mistakes,
This was a mistake and Real Madrid has enough time to correct this mistake because it’s just their first match and nothing is worse already that cannot be fixed. The loss in that match is just a sign to them that this season is won’t be any easy as they may think after signing all the good players they need for the season. All clubs have also strengthened their squads and are all ready to see how they can fight to make it to the European competitions, win the league or even stay in the legume without being relegated by end of the season. Football is a game of survival and winning, the team that can withstand the pressure and win in the end is always what matters. The in-game performance doesn’t matter that much, you should just try and win by all means to get that point.
It's funny that despite the fact that Real Madrid lost points in the first round and Barcelona didn't, the bookmakers' odds for the title haven't changed at all. They are now as follows:
Real Madrid - 1.45
Barcelona - 4.25
Atletico Madrid - 8.50
If I remember correctly, even the chances of Atletico, which unexpectedly lost 2 points, haven't changed either.
Apparently bookmakers, like everyone else, believe that the randomness of the first rounds doesn’t mean much.
Lol! They can just tamper with the odds just because of a single game , the season is still very new for any decision.... I know they will perform better, just wondering why Athletico odds was that highReal Madrid - 1.45
Barcelona - 4.25
Atletico Madrid - 8.50
If I remember correctly, even the chances of Atletico, which unexpectedly lost 2 points, haven't changed either.
Apparently bookmakers, like everyone else, believe that the randomness of the first rounds doesn’t mean much.
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I remember the bookies refusing to accept reality even when City were seriously behind Arsenal (unfortunately they were right in the end). As for Atletico's chances, in my opinion the only mistake here is that their chances are so different from Barcelona's. I don't see any reason for this to be fair. In my opinion there is one favourite - Real, and two teams that claim to have passed the bottom.
Literally, the bookmakers knows that regardless of the fact that Real Madrid lost their first match of the season that there is every possibility for them to win the La Liga, perhaps last season was it not how Girona was topping the league ahead of Real Madrid but Madrid still won at last even between Arsenal and Manchester City it was still same thing that happened so it shouldn't be a surprise that the bookmakers still maintained their odds even after the loss, moreover Real Madrid has the best squad in the La Liga so the possibility is still there even if Real Madrid still lose their next game the odds will still be in their favour, the only thing that can happen is that the odds will increase a little bit but it doesn't mean that they will lose the top spot as the title favourite. If any team will challenge Real Madrid this season it will be between Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, though with how Atletico played against Villareal in their first meeting am afraid if they can be equal to the task of being title contenders even though they have solidified their squad with new players.
Honestly, this is a form of insult to a player's achievements and Gundogan really doesn't deserve this kind of treatment. Barcelona is the worst team so far in dealing with their players' problems and this is proof that they are unable to provide the right solution so that everything can run side by side. Again, what caused this all was because there were some greedy players who didn't want to leave and chose to stay no matter what.
That's Barcelona, a poor club that has lost its way in terms of management. So every decision is always detrimental but for me it doesn't matter because Gundogan departure will actually be positive news for other clubs in La Liga. We know Gundogan role is very important in the midfield which is able to be a balancer and leader but unfortunately Barcelona is Barcelona you knowMoreover, Gundogan returns to Manchester City and will make The Citizen stronger, more solid, and more unstoppable. After all Gundogan is still very productive, I am happy that Gundogan is back in the right hands rather than at a club that doesn't know how to utilize great players.
I didn't look up the news about Gundogan and didn't know about the current problems, because I only knew about Gundogan which having a contract at Barcelona until 2026. So, I thought Gundogan would be fine at Barcelona but strangely enough, recently I've also seen a lot of news and information about Gundogan being available to play with Manchester City again and if that's true then of course, it would still be good for Manchester City too.
Because anyway, when De Bruyne was also unable to play for the full 90 minutes at least it had an impact that might be a little bad too for Manchester City's performance. So yes, if Gundogan returns to Manchester City it will be good to play again with De Bruyne or maybe also become a substitute. But about Barcelona, I have realized it too when they have financial problems, to make their management and judgment bad. But strangely, there are still many top players and potential young players who want to play at Barcelona who have many problems like that.
La Liga also starts (finally) does Real Madrid start tired? a draw surely indicates an accumulated and unreleased tiredness?
They just haven't been able to find their best game at the start of this season. Usually they can make attacks so effective, but in this match in several moments we saw them miss good opportunities that could not be converted into a goal.We also have to remember that the opponent's defense will apply a very high focus when facing Real Madrid's attackers. Although it is quite difficult because it is not just one player they have to guard, but in this match Mallorca was quite successful in guarding the defensive area.
In the front line I see their cooperation has not been formed optimally, but that is normal because they have not been together for long, especially since there are new players who have joined too.
In addition to the poor cooperation between Madrid forward players in the match, of course what Mallorca did was clearly beyond Ancelotti expectations in the match, because previously Mallorca was not a team that survived by parking the bus in their match previously,But precisely in that match they were able to overcome every pressure and attack from Madrid with a total defensive pattern.
Real Madrid's formation this season seems really interesting...
They are using the left wing very often. It is like they don't know the right wing exists. But I understand of course. They can really be more effective from the left. Vinicius Junior is really making big difference there. But seeing even Rodrygo there sometimes feels different.
This strategy sometimes fails though. It all depends on their facing a solid defending from that side. In those situations we see Real Madrid struggling quite much to score. I'm curious about what Ancelotti's other plans will be in that case.
They are using the left wing very often. It is like they don't know the right wing exists. But I understand of course. They can really be more effective from the left. Vinicius Junior is really making big difference there. But seeing even Rodrygo there sometimes feels different.
This strategy sometimes fails though. It all depends on their facing a solid defending from that side. In those situations we see Real Madrid struggling quite much to score. I'm curious about what Ancelotti's other plans will be in that case.
It was just their first match with the new team in the La Liga. I don’t think we should be surprised by how the attacks turned out to be. It is going to take time to get the attack in 100% synchronization. Moreover, it will be tough to adjust with a star player like Mbappe who has been the star player of PSG. It will be tough for both him and his teammate.
But I believe in Carlo Ancelotti. He has always overcome these tough situations and got the team to work. I think he can get the team going very soon. He is one of those coaches who controls the player and does not get controlled by players. He can handle big players like Mbappe. It was just the first match and I think they can come back as soon as the 2nd match.
Since Real Madrid is a big team, their fans are just a little disappointed. And it is okay to understand since they lost against a low tier team like Mallorca. But I think the team will make a big comeback.
-snip-I think we are overreacting over here. Because this was Real Madrid’s first match with the new lineup and it is okay to draw. Many people would be thinking that Real Madrid would not do well in this season. I mean come ooon, it is just the first match. They did well against Atalanta. They can do better than that. It is just the start for the team, so wait and see, they can achieve many things.
I think people should know how Real Madrid works. As a Real Madrid fan I don't think it's something serious and yes it seems like we are overreacting here. Madrid is Madrid. They will have some tough moments but they have an incredible consistency. We saw last season where they struggled in the UCL and La Liga but in the end they were the champions.-snip-Barcelona is a red flag team, run everybody.
Actually, with their current financial condition, it is very possible for Barcelona to try to "dispose" of some veteran players to adjust the club's financial balance. But besides Gundogan, I think there are other players who are more worthy of having their contracts terminated, such as Ferran Torres and De Jong. Both also have quite high salaries at Barcelona. But if we say they don't value veteran players, I don't think that's wise. Almost all teams prioritize young potential players over veteran players. It's just that at least the club should appreciate their contribution. 
La Liga also starts (finally) does Real Madrid start tired? a draw surely indicates an accumulated and unreleased tiredness?
They just haven't been able to find their best game at the start of this season. Usually they can make attacks so effective, but in this match in several moments we saw them miss good opportunities that could not be converted into a goal.We also have to remember that the opponent's defense will apply a very high focus when facing Real Madrid's attackers. Although it is quite difficult because it is not just one player they have to guard, but in this match Mallorca was quite successful in guarding the defensive area.
In the front line I see their cooperation has not been formed optimally, but that is normal because they have not been together for long, especially since there are new players who have joined too.
Barcelona has choose controversial decision this summer because surprisingly they will terminate Gundogan contract and i know Gundogan salary is very high in Barcelona because he has 20 million per year and probably will release him Barcelona can cut salary costs for the players but Gundogan is important player for them even last season Gundogan match statistics with Barcelona is very impressive
I have to says this is a risky move chosen by Barcelona because possibly lost Gundogan will have negative impact to their performance although currently Barcelona has Dani Olmo which probably can be played as the replacement of Gundogan but there is no guarantee Dani Olmo can performing well
maybe I missed something, because as far as I know, Flick previously made a statement saying that Gundohan was not ready to play in the first match of the season. but it seems that there is another reason behind it, in Romano's quote, Gundohan is deciding to leave Barcelona. I have not read complete information regarding this midfielder, especially regarding the salary issue. but honestly, I like Gundohan and he is one of the most consistent players throughout the season with Barcelona. regarding players who are required to take salary cuts, it is no longer something new for Barcelona management to do. but it could be that Barcelona wants to release Gundohan, one of the factors is salary and age. at the same time Barcelona has Olmo, although Barca actually has several players in the midfielder position even though some of them are still injured. too bad, even though I really like Gundohan. he shows a strong mentality for his colleagues at Barca, but the rumor is that the German player will rejoin City. at least, I'm happy if that is a decision that makes him comfortable and happier.
It would be better for Gundogan to return to Manchester City because his life there is certainly guaranteed and prosperous. If he is in Barcelona, there is only misery over all the management's arbitrary decisions. Reportedly, Gundogan has also said goodbye to all his colleagues in Barcelona and is just waiting for the announcement when he arrives back at Manchester City.
What is even more surprising is that not only will he leave with free transfer status according to the contract termination agreement, but Gundogan will also not receive a salary for the remaining two years of his contract, isn't this crazy, man? I didn't expect a club to be cruel to a player who has had such a long career in this sport and Barcelona has really shown an arrogant attitude of not caring and that is a reflection of their true nature at this time.
What is even more surprising is that not only will he leave with free transfer status according to the contract termination agreement, but Gundogan will also not receive a salary for the remaining two years of his contract, isn't this crazy, man? I didn't expect a club to be cruel to a player who has had such a long career in this sport and Barcelona has really shown an arrogant attitude of not caring and that is a reflection of their true nature at this time.
He might not have a constant first-team position in Manchester City. His position has some of the best midfielders in the EPL like Mateo Kovacic, Kevin De Bruyne, Rodri, and Bernardo Silva. Maybe coach Pep Guardiola has plans for the German international who just retired from International football. He is still strong, experienced and versatile which makes him an asset. I am wondering if he would be returned as the captain of the team since he possesses an uncommon leadership quality.
The way he is treated by Barca might depend on his contract with the club. If there is a clause which states that he could be asked to leave without pay, then the club is not doing anything wrong. I don't blame Hansi Flick because he has too many midfielders. He has an array of good players like Frenkie de Jong, Gavi, Pedri, Fermin Lopez, Dani Olmo, Marc Casado and Marc Bernal.
I'm glad that Gundogan is returning to Man City. I wonder what made him leave in the first place; change of scenery or was he thinking he could help Barca? Heard he's done with his coaching course and maybe just wants to wile away time till he's ready to begin.
Barcelona are seriously having money issues and I'm wondering how they'd maintain Dani Olmo who they just signed if this how they can treat one of their players who has been instrumental in the midfield.
Seriously I would have preferred if he had gone on to PSG instead of Barca. I'm wondering if this their money issues had always been there or is it a recent occurrence.
Gundogan likes to move from team to team as a free agent, no one loses and no one earns on him on transfers, he just moves where he wants, maybe this is the advantage of one-season contracts. On the other hand, he is no longer young and it is unlikely that they will want to sign long-term contracts with him, maybe he will play for City for a few more years and then go to Saudi Arabia. I don’t know why Flick is not worried about players like Joao Felix and Gundogan leaving the team, maybe he is worried, but in the end he lets them go, the loss of Gundogan for Barca could be too tangible. Barcelona are seriously having money issues and I'm wondering how they'd maintain Dani Olmo who they just signed if this how they can treat one of their players who has been instrumental in the midfield.
Seriously I would have preferred if he had gone on to PSG instead of Barca. I'm wondering if this their money issues had always been there or is it a recent occurrence.
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