Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 243. (Read 452189 times)

activemining is an asset (you own shares in the company, hardware, sales, etc.).
labratmining is a kind of a fuzzy hedge-fund like group buy (it isn't a bond since there is no secured value nor face value, it is just a promise of proceeds from a group buy)

when you purchase shares in activemining, you own the hardware and IP that will be licensed/sold.
When you donate money to labrat's company, he uses some of it to buy hardware in exchange for giving you dividends from the hardware (and then charges you a hidden fee for that privilege)

As I've said, a brilliant business plan and it's working out. Surprised more people haven't copied it.

Two very different propositions. ActM hasn't really started yet - the share price reflects the potential of ActM over the next few months (i.e. once they start selling hardware and hashing with their own chips).  Not to take anything away from LRM, which I think is a solid mining stock to hold.

Ok, my math skills are terrible, so, please don't be hard on me if I screwed this up, lol..

I was looking at activeminer and lab rat. Active miner has tons of volume. but here is the differences and why lab rat is better

Again, please someone, double check my math info and math..

As of today active miner shares are trading at about  0.00200 and lab rate is about .17

If you purchased 10 bitcoins of activeminer, you would receive 5000 shares and roughly 63 shares of lab rat

With the last dividends paid by both companies with that same 10 bitcoin investment, you would have seen a return of 0.0075 btc from active miner
and from lab rat you would have seen 0.07333 almost 10 times the return..(actually about 9, but remember i suck at math)

Its really a no brainer. if my math and calculations are correct, LRM is easily one of the best mining bonds out there..

Thoughts?

BA

Go here: https://bitfunder.com/asset/LabRatMining

Click the 'Dividends' tab/link. It will show the number of shares that dividends were distributed over.

Labrat
Can you please update us with how many shares are now outstanding, currently?

@grnbrg : i'm feeling like someone making a good choice (investing in LRM) 

But how do you *really* feel?


grnbrg.

Wow! LR wasn't kidding - 3.8 TH and climbing

http://labratstats.herokuapp.com/

I would be very cautious about stating that the share price is down on the basis of such low volumes. As we have seen from a recent post regarding market manipulation of MT Gox http://falkvinge.net/2013/09/13/bitcoins-vast-overvaluation-seems-to-be-caused-by-usually-illegal-price-fixing/ - this market is entirely unregulated and nothing prevents attempted or real manipulations. In absolute terms, yes the price is down. But, what volumes are associated with these price swings? Where is the trading coming from? And, very importantly, what are your long term goals in owning this investment? If you are speculating, perhaps you will be better to move over to something that has greater volume and thus liquidity.

Labrat Mining is very different from other plays in this VMC 'industry' given the limited nature of the IPO and his approach to scaling production I.E. hashing power. "Competing" companies are floating IPO's of millions of cheap shares which have a broader appeal due to their perceived low cost (ASICMINER excepted) and tremendous speculative activity is the result. LRM is not conducive to a similar level of speculation due to its low number of shares and low liquidity. While I have not done an analysis of the % of trading shares transacting for ICEDRILL and Activemining, their total BTC volumes tend to outweigh that of LRM.

How do you define value in this market? I posit that the drivers of value here are the same as anywhere when you consider that the goal of these companies is to provide a consistent or perhaps growing stream of earnings. In RL terms this is defined as "Present Value of Future Earnings". Just have a look at the total dividends paid and amount per share of LRM vs the marketplace and you will see that, should the present trend continue, it will attract more of the "right" kind of shareholder - those that are in it for the long haul. Analyze what is going on..... it is critical to your future success in this market

I forgot, but I think it was the 3rd 1/3rd of the mix-up taken out. Either case, next week seems scheduled to be normal dividends.

Whoa! 116,000+ satoshis per share with 2nd half of mix-up taken out?! More hash being added this week, next weeks payout bound to be even bigger. And as mmmerlin mentions, price still going down...earn more satoshi on shares held while earning more every week on a per-share basis.

conclusion: I would be a fool not to pick up a few more of these ASAP

Do you know when you're going to be placing the orders with Dave yet?

Strange indeed - but I'm happy to buy as many shares as I can each Saturday.  It looks like some people are shedding shares they recently acquired in exchange for hardware.

Nice payout, thank you very much! Dividends steadily climbing, share price steadily falling... It's a strange world we live in 

Paid out dividends a little early this week everyone, got some hardware to set up again this Saturday and wanted to make sure they went out on time.

This is the last week the dividends will be cut due to the double payout.  Next week we go back to normal dividends and we'll have a nice spike in hashrate to boot.

Actual dividend payout today was BTC57.61383896 or 49496 @ BTC0.00116401 a piece.  Things will only get better from here on out.

Yeah, but the problem is that they can't compete with them! The barely managed with Avalon, but they simply don't have the ability to design hardware on the same level. Just because you want to compete with someone doesn't mean that you can...

But I was saying before, I agree that I don't think that means they won't try to compete by making promises they fail to keep.

My guess is based on how they reacted to Avalon's better deal last year. Now, Cointerra has a January pre-order selling for $3.5/GH. But to beat Cointerra, they'd have to offer a bit more than I suggested. At least the principle is in play for betting.

Why not just make it 10? It's not like they'll ever manage to actually make that chip on spec or on time, and it's proven that they can promise the earth and deliver a shit on a plate and get away with it. They have everything to gain by making promises they can't deliver on, and apparently nothing to lose (at least in the short/medium term), so this is why you should take their specs with more than just a pinch of salt.

OT: My bet is BFL offers 1.2TH for their current same price on Monarch orders. Watch and see.