Labor is really the birth of happiness?

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Quote from: bitcoin_mining on May 31, 2024, 09:09:42 AM

As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?

There are lots of factors on which it could affect someones success neither intentionally or something that cant be controlled like inflation and economic aspect.

Here are the possible reasons or things.
1. Economic condition- Everything is expensive so that day rate or salary wont be enough. So there's nothing cant do about it.
2. Lack of education- Those who didnt finish a degree would really be just that having their end game on having those labor jobs.
3. Not taking any step further- Didnt tend to have some side income and making some dealing up with other methods that could bring up some potential profits
4. Just simply contented on what they do have

This is why we cant really be able to tell someone on how they would really be that handling out their own lives.
We do have our own decisions and we do have our liking on the conditions that we are into.

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Quote from: Ngemmeng on June 09, 2024, 05:39:18 PM

Actually everyone has luck, it's just that everyone's luck is different. luck can be a decent job, big salary, health, family, and so on. The point is that luck is not just about wealth or work, because there are people who have a lot of money but are far from family and there are people who are together with family but live well. We can't look at luck from just one thing because this world needs balance. it's not possible for everyone to be rich and not possible everyone to be a professor.

You are speaking good. Labor person do work day and night and he will get success if he will make long term goal. If he made a short term plan and he only focused to work ,work and work ,he will not be successful because specialized knowledge of field is very important in life. A labor can be rich if he knows how to invest money and how much invest money. I saw who took start a very small but now they are rich person in our society. The reason is they focused on their knowledge,no matter how much degrees you have and no matters how much qualifications you have. But if you struggled everyday and you will do the work consistently and you will increase your knowledge of business and investments,you will be rich in future. The famous quote, Slow and steady wins the race ,that is true in real life.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on June 16, 2024, 02:30:46 AM

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Actually I think it would be correct and reasonable to change the words of the teachers. That is: smart work instead of hard work.

If we have the chance to work without draining ourselves physically and mentally while also receiving the most benefits possible then I think we should do that. Working hard will sometimes get you nowhere because there are people who can manipulate and cheat their way to the top.

I am not saying we also should cheat our way to success but if there is an easier way to the top then let us not waste time and grab that oppurtunity.

Cheating is never a valid way to the top. Which will distort our mentality and make them a threat to the future generations to live. Even if a man honestly wants to find ways to grow he will definitely find many ways to grow if only his willpower is enough. We should not only think about ourselves to grow up so that we can give our future generations a healthy natural living environment.

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There is dignity in labor, labor pays you off the work you do but you don't have to work very hard all day long tirelessly. People are working smartly this time around and they are making it big time. There's this saying that "if you never sowed a seed, you won't have a fruit to rip" Sowing a seed is by labor and to get a result you must work for it and that why labor begats happiness but not all labor produce good result.

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Quote from: MissNonFall9 on June 16, 2024, 02:13:25 AM

Actually I think it would be correct and reasonable to change the words of the teachers. That is: smart work instead of hard work.

If we have the chance to work without draining ourselves physically and mentally while also receiving the most benefits possible then I think we should do that. Working hard will sometimes get you nowhere because there are people who can manipulate and cheat their way to the top.

I am not saying we also should cheat our way to success but if there is an easier way to the top then let us not waste time and grab that oppurtunity.

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Quote from: bitcoin_mining on May 31, 2024, 09:09:42 AM

As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?

Actually what we are not understanding is that we should focus on smart work rather than hard work. Nowadays the world has revolutionized so much that hard work in this era is not worth it. You can not survive in this world of capitalism with your small income coming from hard work.

So in order to satisfy your needs and requirements you need to do smart work so that less work can generate more income.

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Quote from: bitcoin_mining on May 31, 2024, 09:09:42 AM

As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?

Actually I think it would be correct and reasonable to change the words of the teachers. That is: smart work instead of hard work. Smart work is our privilege. A hardworking rickshaw puller and a day laborer but their fate does not change because they do not know about smart work. It also requires minimum formal education which will help in smart work. I met a rickshaw puller who saved money by driving a rickshaw and opened a small grocery shop from there and from there he started a wholesale business which has made him one of the richest people in the area today. So hard work alone does not change people's destiny.

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Quote from: Ever-young on June 07, 2024, 09:47:44 AM

You are absolutely correct, a good work brings joy and happiness, laziness is a very bad habit and can get one into poverty or might even kill the person if they don't have food.

Laziness is one of the things that makes our youths to go for in search of quick money, they go in scamming people, because they don't have the strength to go and work, they are too lazy to do work and that's a very bad attitude and there is quote that says " No food for a lazy man". So we should be hardworking because if we are lazy, nobody will put food on our table.

I believe that regardless of how lazy you are, you must find a way to eat food. So the only thing that makes you lazy is when you don't work to get what other people are getting and you want to compete with them. That is when you will put your hand into evil things because you will see it as something that is very easy to make money. Because you don’t work and you want to get what others are getting, which cannot come when you stay at home, you need to work harder before reaching such places.

I believe, as you said, that many youths are going through a lot today because of what they put their hands into just to get money, and it is really threatening their lives. So this is another consequence that being lazy will bring into someone's life. If a person is lazy to work and do evil things, definitely such things will come back and backfire because they are not paying evil with good; they always pay evil with evil.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on May 31, 2024, 09:36:32 AM

Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.

Hard Work and luck together play a very better role in one's success and if someone is not working hard and thinks that his good luck will make him wealthy then he is wrong because both are compulsory. But in some cases luck win the race and lucky individuals become more successful than hard work people.

There are many individuals who have not worked hard and have not gotten any degree but still they are earning a good sum of money due to their good luck. We should utilize our energy and skills as well as knowledge and let our luck be shiny to give us huge success but remember that we should not stop to work hard.

Working hard is good but getting right information at the right time may work in most times than being hard working. In most cases, people with less stressful work with good skills earn far better than those working all day with their strength as hard labor. Most people call it luck but sometimes is just getting the right skills and information. I'm not saying there isn't luck but most time luck comes to complement your skills and trials.

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Actually everyone has luck, it's just that everyone's luck is different. luck can be a decent job, big salary, health, family, and so on. The point is that luck is not just about wealth or work, because there are people who have a lot of money but are far from family and there are people who are together with family but live well. We can't look at luck from just one thing because this world needs balance. it's not possible for everyone to be rich and not possible everyone to be a professor.

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Labour is such a funny thing is that when you are the one who work, it feels like a terrible thing, but if others work for you then you feel like a king. It's a small kingdom, you are the king, and you have people who work for you, to make you richer and live a comfortable life, in exchange you guarantee them a life that will not be taken away from them.

It is really a terrible one because we are talking about something that takes a while, and because of that we are almost always having some issues with work place having very high levels of mobbing, because people think they are actually kings, and not just a boss, and lose themselves. Just because you are the boss, doesn't mean you can treat people like shit, but they may forget it sometimes.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on May 31, 2024, 09:36:32 AM

Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.

Hard Work and luck together play a very better role in one's success and if someone is not working hard and thinks that his good luck will make him wealthy then he is wrong because both are compulsory. But in some cases luck win the race and lucky individuals become more successful than hard work people.

There are many individuals who have not worked hard and have not gotten any degree but still they are earning a good sum of money due to their good luck. We should utilize our energy and skills as well as knowledge and let our luck be shiny to give us huge success but remember that we should not stop to work hard.

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Every job is difficult for many people but people work, because every person needs money to earn a living and to earn that money people work, work becomes easy or difficult based on skill or educational qualification. Then work is essential for our livelihood without which money cannot be earned.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on May 31, 2024, 09:36:32 AM

Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.

I agree with you on this one, if we concentrate on hard work alone things may not work as we expect to be, many wheel barrow pusher, truck drivers,iron benders and weight lifters would have been the richest people on earth if hardwork were to be the only thing that triggers success but the truth is that they are not because may be they are not lucky or is not their time but it not necessarily because they are not hardworking per say, luck is involved in everything and that to me looks like a supernatural thing because it just happen without individual notice, we dont control it, the things I do may not favour you if you do the same, no matter your level of hard work and commitment, in all if we must succeed, what we need is grace, hardwork and luck itself, hard work does not act alone for success to materialized in our lives.

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Schools teach you the knowledge you will need for the course you would like to take the path and also as a basic understanding of the outside world those learnings from those years before you graduated will be now used in life now it's up to you how you will execute most of your learnings, people have an opportunity in life that they can grab, or else you will seek another path of yours, once you are in your own now you cannot blame others with your decisions in life. You can work and make a money but of course no one would like to work most of their lives if you want to escape with this mindset you will change your self and let find a better version of yours which become a financial free and have freedom.

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Quote from: justdimin on June 07, 2024, 04:01:34 AM

Player A could be talented and famous but doesn't work out that much anymore, and Player B could be less talented and unknown but works ten times more than player A, but would make less. And yet, in these sports worlds we hear millions, even tens of millions of euros paid to players as well. This is why we should be aware of how much money one could make, all depends on what skill they have they are offering to the world.

I do not agree with that at all. I agree that sports players do make a lot of money that part is a fact, but remember someone is paying their wages as well. It means that most people who are really rich are people in the business world, they have billions whereas sports people have millions.

The real money maker is not working to make money, it is not labour, it is making money off others labour, that is how you get rich. This is why I disagree with working hard and being very talented is the way to be rich, some people do that and do become quite well off, I am not disagreeing with that, I wish I had the money Mbappe had, of course that is obvious, BUT, I rather have that Qatari dude who owns PSG type of money over Mbappe as well, that seems better to anyone.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 31, 2024, 10:07:44 AM

The Germans have a well-known quote:

"Arbeit macht frei."

Means:

"Work sets you free."

As you know Germany is one of the richest countries in the world and the people that live there are also mostly happy and it is because they work hard and add value to the world. China is following the same steps and they are getting richer too. So, I think work indeed brings happiness.

Laziness brings only misery.

You are absolutely correct, a good work brings joy and happiness, laziness is a very bad habit and can get one into poverty or might even kill the person if they don't have food.

Laziness is one of the things that makes our youths to go for in search of quick money, they go in scamming people, because they don't have the strength to go and work, they are too lazy to do work and that's a very bad attitude and there is quote that says " No food for a lazy man". So we should be hardworking because if we are lazy, nobody will put food on our table.

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no, a human being being born into the world is extraordinary luck. Luck is not just wealth and profession, but health and peace in life are also luck. for me luck is not about what you have or what you achieve, but about how you are grateful. what you have now could be the luck that other people hope for.

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Quote from: boty on June 06, 2024, 08:15:22 AM

It is true that what you say is that someone who works hard will not necessarily earn a lot of income and there are even those who work just normally but can earn a lot of income, but this really depends on the knowledge that a person has and it is very unlikely that those who have knowledge about what they are doing will certainly be able to easily complete the work they are doing, but for some people who do not have the knowledge of course they have to struggle to complete their work and the income they get is not the same as those who work with their knowledge.

For some people who have low incomes of course they will never be able to think about investing and the most important thing for them is that being able to meet their needs is already very happy for them and what motivators say about life of course they will only say pleasant results and not say the process how to achieve the success he achieved.

I agree that knowledge (or talent or skill) could mean a lot more, look at sports people for the biggest example, even within their own industry they have people who make so much different money, for multiple reasons. A player could be more talented or more famous and they could make more money than someone who practices more.

Player A could be talented and famous but doesn't work out that much anymore, and Player B could be less talented and unknown but works ten times more than player A, but would make less. And yet, in these sports worlds we hear millions, even tens of millions of euros paid to players as well. This is why we should be aware of how much money one could make, all depends on what skill they have they are offering to the world.

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Quote from: bestcandy on June 02, 2024, 08:01:28 PM

Hardworking is a necessity for surviving but sometime it doesn't matter how hardworking one can be but the ability for an individual to work smart, discover his/her talent where necessary and know how to apply it in order to make the best utilization of any little available opportunity. There many people that work for 20hours daily without a tangible wages but smart person that now how to discover opportunities can work for less than 20hours daily and make a better income.

Work smart and not work hard, that's what everyone need today and not dispense energy trying to make all the wealth. Though, there are some work that you don't have choice but to do them according to how they are meant, like a nursing would have to be at their work place all time before they can earn, a grocery store person would need to attend and get paid per hourly but their are some work that you don't need to dispense all the energy to get them done.

There also alternatives to other works than rely on particularly work that will dispense all your energy. I would rather work in grocery shop as attendance and get paid good amount of money than work in a site, I don't want my life to have short expectancy before I die, even though the pay is huge, you can actually do two part time work and get good more pays without stressing much.

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