Topic: Labor is really the birth of happiness? - page 4. (Read 768 times)

I think the best way we can serve them is by requesting the governments to increase their subsidies and the daily wages upon what they are working on. This will be the best gift that they can get on their day.

Moreover the governments should take care of the people who pay less than the required wages and they should be punished so that they're will be no one that will take benefit of someones weakness.

Those laborer can change their fate if they have a will and do many things. We lived in this world with the same chance but that depends on every person. Not many people have a strong will to change their fate because many people are lazy to moves from their comfortable zone into uncomfortable zone. They feels that they can accept what happens to them and they can live so far but they don't wants to try to do other things that can change their lives.

It is difficult to change other people perception about his lives because that will needs an open minds to see that they have the same chance to do other things. It is about a strong will and what efforts he will do to reach a better lives and only people who have those things that can change their fate.

I don't believe in luck as a mysterious force of nature or whatever, but I believe in luck as random good events that some happen to get and others just don't. Aside from luck, there are objective social factors that give a person an advantage or a disadvantage. I'm talking about living in a first-world country, living in an urban vs rural area, family income when you're growing up, physical and mental health. Also, let's not forget as race, gender, and sexuality which can differ in impact depending on where you live.
That's why there should be special opportunities for those who are disadvantaged from the start, or otherwise one might work hard while remaining poor.
It's hard to escape the harsh reality, but if there are other professions that can be learned online, or an option to get affordable higher education (this really depends on a country), or special opportunities.

I agree with you, success takes more than hard work. Some would say "work smart and not hard", which means we should be resourceful as well, but even so, luck plays an important role in whether someone will succeed. So yes, having some skills and some luck is a winning combination.


I don't think this question has a simple and universal answer. It's a big world, and people must do all kinds of jobs to survive... Often these "regular" jobs are the only choice and that's what we have to accept.

I agree with you, not all things that our teachers taught us is true, some of them is kinda biased because there are people who are born rich and that is because of their parents' hardships or they actually came from the family of the rich. some people is working and striving hard to become successful because that's what imprinted in our mind but if you see some people still not successful and can't see that they are rich, some of them still earning enough for their day to day needs. Sometimes, it's not all about working hard, we should accompany it with practicality, determination and being strategic, we need to atleast learn how to manage our financials, so on and so fort.

Great and well said. There are cases where a worker might go the extra mile to do research and do some thorough evaluation just for the sake of the growth of the business such spirit is purely hard work. We don't have to be the strongest worker who moves 50 barrels in 15 minutes or someone who does a number of sales by going several places with his leg. But someone who can devise a means to move those 50 barrels and more with ease or someone who can dedicate his time to increase his online presence so that he can make more sales online and reach the number of people who need his products through steady advert.

There's no 100% correct answer to it but in ideal economy daily wagers should earn more than white collar job holders. That makes the sense for the extra physical effort they do. For my part of the world, daily wage labor earns more per day than a clerk at an office. But if the daily wage earner takes leaves equal to a clerk, their monthly income would be similar.
With the saturation of development work and use of automation and safety measures in physical job, the number of daily wage workers have decreased and the quality of their workplace has increased.
Furthermore there should not be Rickshaw pullers in modern times, the government should facilitate shift them to other jobs or get them a motorized rickshaw. Unless of course they are doing it to keep the vintage tradition alive, where they earn more than other jobs.

That is very obvious, hard work pays a lot, when someone is very serious with what he or she is doing, and they are very consistent with what they are doing they will surely make out something from it as a reward. Hard work brings people closer to good fortune because whenever you are consistent with your and know much about its people must surely patronize you and be rewarded bountifully. Also, i will rather say that luck and hard work are brothers because they are pre-requisite to each other and without luck someone cannot recognize your hard work. so, it takes the grace of God and luck for people to patronize you and recognize your hard work.

Hard work pays off but working smart makes the difference, you can work all your ass off yet still remain in the same class of social status or quo poor status because you aren't productive in any way rather you work for someone all the days of your life. looking from history you can see that most successful people do not really work hard rather they work smart puting their hands (money) into risky areas where attentions are not much paid into.

you can not because successful or the status rich with working 12 hours a day. you will only end up working yourself out, you must be smart enough to know when you need to leave, you can do two jobs at a time but have a target to put the money into something else than can generate more money. that is how success comes.

I believe what our teachers tells us is not the actual truth but if we read meaning to it from our own perspective then it would make sense. For me labour is the birth of happiness, means you will derive more joy when you work for your money.

Let me answer your questions. There is one concept that needs to be understood by people: not that going to school will benefit you, but that you have to be smart even though you have the knowledge because your knowledge alone won’t make you rich. That is why they always say don’t work hard only, but work smart. Graduating from school as a doctor or engineer will not make you rich, but you can still get rich if you are smart enough. 

Take, for instance, you as a doctor. Instead of working for a person, why not create your own hospital? I know creating a hospital is not a small deal, but let me tell you, if you can do that and employ many other doctors like that, you will definitely get rich. But that concept can not still be applicable to others in the same profession, and if you look deep, not everyone is meant to be rich. Some are just meant to survive because if everyone gets rich in the world, no one will be there to serve them any more, and life will not move as expected. 

The people who earn the better in this age are people who work the harder intellectually and not physically because physical labor does not translate to much wealth. This is why people like the builders and bricklayers will never be as wealthy as the contractors who have the job and put everything together.
We have to work smarter in our pursuit for wealth, depending on our physical strength alone will greatly put us in a bad position because it will diminish as we age, and it can be a big danger to our health too.

Smart workers earn better than those who physically work hard.

There is reward and dignity in labour, if a labourer has worked in a certain place for years, and his not getting rewarded enough for his hard work, then he should ask for a pay increase, if his employer refuses to increase his wage, then he should resign. Because resignation is also part of dignity, you cannot continue to work hard in an environment that they do not appreciate your effort.

However a focus laborer should have a target, what to achieve at every interval, so that you can look back and count your blessings. being focused and having a strategy as to enable you succeed is an entire different ball game, in as much as you work hard to earn your money as a laborer, you need to plan yourself so as to have a better future.

I don't think it has anything to do with a change of fate, but more of a case of such a one settling for what is available and can provide their daily bread.
That's one reason why education is important, because if one knows how to work smart and learn to employ labor, then they have become an entrepreneur no matter the area or field of expertise.

Working smart is today's day and age solution to working so hard without gain and it pays to be educated in every area so as one can personally develop to improve on the conditions that would normally not be conducive enough for one to accumulate wealth.

There is dignity in labour and the recompense is always good, if we can bend down our rules and knees towards working out something for ourself, we will always have what to fall back on in the future, this is one of the reason they use to say there is dignity in labour, if we can work then we can eat, this translates right from the knowledge expositions we have been receiving right from our childhood days to this time.

Hard Work is not just a physical effect, it can be mentally aswell depending on one's nature of job. A business owner has his job and he knows what he's doing but inorder for him to be more productive other than his colleagues in the business is for him to come up with a striking plan by adding something that makes his service more preferable than the others, this will increase the number of people who would want to do business with him, that is also called hardwork not physicality alone.

Well, maybe before the birth of ai's and internet hard wok practice is acceptable due to labor is needed to perform physical work. as times goes by, the innovation of different way to make work easier is perform in different countries. Of Course, who doesn't want easier and more efficient work? so it depends on what era you are talking to. But still some people are slaves of long hour labor with just a small salary that can't provide enough for a family.

I've never heard of this, but I was taught that if you work hard and help others you will get good luck, and in fact that's what I witnessed with myself. I don't work for myself for really simple needs, something I put effort into for everyone around me without expecting anything in return.

IMO, the problem is the opportunity that person has and are they really happy with it, if the answer from that rickshaw puller is that they feel unhappy with that job then are they willing to stop, perhaps the story will be the fact that our abilities will give us suitable positions in life. And I see that even when there is an easy job, the trade-off comes from before, when the effort to learn skills that can be applied to the job to have a pleasant job, as long as that person is happy happy and grateful for the things they have. I don't think much about jobs in society, because any career is precious to each person. If we choose to live with that, even those who criticize our incompetence will not affects what they have. It's like you see that rickshaw puller working hard but life doesn't have the need you think, but going back to the issue that person can still be happy with their job. Each of us has our own lessons in life, so there is no need to impose a one-size-fits-all standard, the joy of a farmer is different from the joy of a king.

hard work doesn't equate to happiness and usually happiness comes when you have financial stability and your family could afford whatever they want to afford. it is happiness, those manual laborer aren't lacking hardwork even many times they over working, they work harder than most of the people yet their fate never change because hardwork never equates to more money, but it is required in achieving your dream.

if you trying to find happiness you should know what make you unhappy first, is it financial unstability? the feeling of powerless when you can't afford to pay for food or medical bills? if that's the case, try to make much more money through leveraging your knowledge and hardwork, make each other complement.
there are many teacher that says hardwork begets good luck but they never teach about people that did hardwork and still have miserable fate at the end of the day and also those people that tried hard to become rich through entrepreneurship and will still become poor anyway because they keep failing never found success.
the world was never linear, being rich is just simply having a good opportunity at the right time and being the right person and its always like this.

thats why there's something called work smart not work hard, see those billionaires, they are letting other people work to achieve his dream in exchange for money which means labour, meaning what matter most is achieving your dream, not other.

No, labor isn't the birth of happiness.

Privilege is actually the birth of happiness.

If you have privilege, let's say your parents have a big business, your dad is a president, or someone who have power, then you're high likely will happy in your life.

If you're start from nothing and your parent are average, the chance you will not happy is really high because even you have a job, the salary and effort you spend might not equal. Who're happy when they work hard and get paid less?

That's because back in their time, hard work MEANT something. Nowadays? That just means you're a pushover and you can be taken advantage of. Don't get me wrong, hard work is still needed to go up and get yourself a better life, but at some point, it just hits a ceiling. And it depends on what you're working for as well. Part of it is because of how many people are working as well in the first place, so it's a competition but a huge part is well, just the result of capitalism. You can stay change starts with small things, but that's when there's nothing big blocking your way and well, that's what capitalism does to you.