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legendary
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maybe trying to spread some fud? to cause a price panic?

I wouldn't be that harsh. I think the worse news would be if someone found a collision, but was afraid to post it.
It seems what happened was this (from my messagebox):

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Until today i knew that the maximum possible value a bitcoin key could have is 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25E8CD0364141

But i learned something new. If a key with value over maximum number of n points is used, then the address generation resets from base point G. For example, by adding 4 to the key i pasted above we get the value 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364145 which produces the same public keys and addreses as 0x4

Quote from: shifty252
Quote from: rico666
That's not a collision, that's the simple modulo p arithmetics.

True, but https://rawgit.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.io/f7679dd03f39a04edced641960a7c3df1116fea9/#generator accepts it as a real key.
In theory, a broken bitcoin client could accept a key over the limit and generating a "collision" like this.

So short story:

with LBC, you can wiggle in extreme keyspace, but you really should focus on the 1st 2160 bits.
shifty252 found buggy software @ https://rawgit.com

end of story

Rico
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
maybe trying to spread some fud? to cause a price panic?
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
whats this mean...  ELI5 please Smiley

bitcoin is ded?
I don't understand what he is asking.

Is he asking that due to this project Bitcoin is dead?

He's asking about shifty252s comment #369 about the posted alternate key for the BTC address found 2016-10-11 03:00:34 GMT (https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/trophies).


Rico


Oh, that's fake isn't it?

The portion of private key they show isn't possible:

Here is the very last address PK:
5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDU2KYEqetqj84qw

Here is the supposed collision PK:
5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDVwj9

5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDU2KYEqetqj84qw
5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDVwj9...

How can a V come after a U if it's the last PK?

Thanks,
Jude
full member
Activity: 149
Merit: 100
I never set an ID or password previously and when I try to set something like this, I get the "server doesn't like us. Answer:wrong secret.". How can I get up and running? Sorry for the noob question.

Code:
$ LBC -id haze -s mypassword -c 1 -t 1
Best generator chosen: gen-hrdcore-skylake-linux64
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.

I expected some hiccups - that's why I posted the docs in advance

* Id is too short (8-32 chars)
* You need to set a password, so you have to provide some old password.

As you had none before, you can take an arbitrary one

so if you do

Code:
LBC -id haze_the_great -s x:mypassword -c 1 -t 1

it should work. You should see a message "Password set". From then on -s mypassword is enough.
If you would like to change it, you need to do -s mypassword:newsecretpass




Rico


I run...

Code:
LBC -id haze_the_great -s x:mypassword -c 1 -t 1

and I get...

Code:
unknown option: id
Formal error processing command line options!
legendary
Activity: 1948
Merit: 2097
The pool found:

Private key:
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000022306e3f1a72

Public key :
04
E7D529CEA967BDFCA1F4096C91A35E3BAC67E87EAF5A03895889BEE00412FEC6
59F5D0823DBAAF3768684D3625C7D72909E6C2F56CEAA0DE608A0F3AAB27F4E2

hash 160 --> f6cc30532dba44efe592733887f4f74c589c9602

Address: 1PVwqUXrD5phy6gWrqJUrhpsPiBkTnftGg


From here:

http://prnt.sc/e0nsqp

I don't see a complete pk : 5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDVwj9...

then there is not (yet) a proof of collision.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
whats this mean...  ELI5 please Smiley

bitcoin is ded?
I don't understand what he is asking.

Is he asking that due to this project Bitcoin is dead?

He's asking about shifty252s comment #369 about the posted alternate key for the BTC address found 2016-10-11 03:00:34 GMT (https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/trophies).


Rico
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
whats this mean...  ELI5 please Smiley

bitcoin is ded?
anyone that can answer this? i am genuinely curious and it seems like i am being ignored

I'm also very interested, but it seems everyone went on dive station (gone into hiding) regarding this.
My best bet would be, that this is an overflow/modulo bug in some specific software, but I really shouldn't be the one commenting on this.

Rico


I don't understand what he is asking.

Is he asking that due to this project Bitcoin is dead?

Thanks,
Jude
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
whats this mean...  ELI5 please Smiley

bitcoin is ded?
anyone that can answer this? i am genuinely curious and it seems like i am being ignored

I'm also very interested, but it seems everyone went on dive station (gone into hiding) regarding this.
My best bet would be, that this is an overflow/modulo bug in some specific software, but I really shouldn't be the one commenting on this.

Rico
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
whats this mean...  ELI5 please Smiley

bitcoin is ded?


anyone that can answer this? i am genuinely curious and it seems like i am being ignored
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
Best generator chosen: gen-hrdcore-sse42-linux64
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: toofast.


toofast. ?

Maybe something went wrong when benchmarking the generator (not executable or so).
The server evaluates the self-proclaimed speed of the client. If it is too fast (I should look up where the threshold is, but unless you have a 6GHz overclocked liquid nitrogen cooled Kaby Lake, your client claimed a speed that is not within the reach of todays CPUs) the server will react as you see.
As I see a sse42 generator chosen, you have a CPU generation that has no AVX2, so either AMD or pre-Haswell, There is  nothing "too fast and at the same time real existant" there.  Smiley


Rico
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
Best generator chosen: gen-hrdcore-sse42-linux64
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: toofast.


toofast. ?
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
You can put these on JudeAustin:

ba6c903275906f7367f83e52e393648e
14ec34f45a80e99744e75b5e313a3d29
117a66a89de5393b34b7e37e8a00b2b6

There might be a couple more, for some reason on my "dedicated" every so often the client ID would change.

I will PM you the IP if you want to check if there are any others.

Thanks,
Jude

15078b42893011a9e1d13c0d53c8774f - also merged

Congrats, you're #5

Rico


Only number 5....

TO THE BATCAVE!
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
You can put these on JudeAustin:

ba6c903275906f7367f83e52e393648e
14ec34f45a80e99744e75b5e313a3d29
117a66a89de5393b34b7e37e8a00b2b6

There might be a couple more, for some reason on my "dedicated" every so often the client ID would change.

I will PM you the IP if you want to check if there are any others.

Thanks,
Jude

15078b42893011a9e1d13c0d53c8774f - also merged

Congrats, you're #5

Rico
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
Also my offer to consolidate everybody's delivered Gkeys to a new id is still on the table.

I consolidated my old 1ff... and the Pleiades prototype also under __rico666__

Just tell me your old id and the new one and I move the gkeys from the old to the new (old id will be deleted from the DB).


Rico

You can put these on JudeAustin:

ba6c903275906f7367f83e52e393648e
14ec34f45a80e99744e75b5e313a3d29
117a66a89de5393b34b7e37e8a00b2b6

There might be a couple more, for some reason on my "dedicated" every so often the client ID would change.

I will PM you the IP if you want to check if there are any others.

Thanks,
Jude
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.

See above

Code:
LBC -s x:judesnewpass

and later then (a.k.a. on subsequent invocations)

Code:
LBC -s judesnewpass

or use the config file (also see above) if you do not want to type it over and over again nor if you want it to be seen on command line.


Rico


Thanks Rico!

I figured it out after I RTFM...

It's been a long day.

Jude
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
Also my offer to consolidate everybody's delivered Gkeys to a new id is still on the table.

I consolidated my old 1ff... and the Pleiades prototype also under __rico666__

Just tell me your old id and the new one and I move the gkeys from the old to the new (old id will be deleted from the DB).


Rico
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.

See above

Code:
LBC -s x:judesnewpass

and later then (a.k.a. on subsequent invocations)

Code:
LBC -s judesnewpass

or use the config file (also see above) if you do not want to type it over and over again nor if you want it to be seen on command line.


Rico
legendary
Activity: 1140
Merit: 1000
The Real Jude Austin
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.

Duh, didn't notice had to add -s x:mypassis12345

legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1037
฿ → ∞
I never set an ID or password previously and when I try to set something like this, I get the "server doesn't like us. Answer:wrong secret.". How can I get up and running? Sorry for the noob question.

Code:
$ LBC -id haze -s mypassword -c 1 -t 1
Best generator chosen: gen-hrdcore-skylake-linux64
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.

I expected some hiccups - that's why I posted the docs in advance

* Id is too short (8-32 chars)
* You need to set a password, so you have to provide some old password.

As you had none before, you can take an arbitrary one

so if you do

Code:
LBC -id haze_the_great -s x:mypassword -c 1 -t 1

it should work. You should see a message "Password set". From then on -s mypassword is enough.
If you would like to change it, you need to do -s mypassword:newsecretpass




Rico
full member
Activity: 149
Merit: 100
I never set an ID or password previously and when I try to set something like this, I get the "server doesn't like us. Answer:wrong secret.". How can I get up and running? Sorry for the noob question.


Code:
$ LBC -id haze -s mypassword -c 1 -t 1
Best generator chosen: gen-hrdcore-skylake-linux64
Ask for work... Server doesn't like us. Answer: wrong secret.
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