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Topic: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed | Missing escrow funds - page 12. (Read 26066 times)

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I'm not sure what's more funny, the fact that people think they're entitled to make such a request or that they think that there is a standard for signing messages from multisig. Actually, it's rather sad how ignorant and/or envious you (not directed @you) have to be to do so. Roll Eyes
There was absolutely no proof provided for any of these claims, thus there is absolutely no public proof necessary to counter any of these claims. This is QS shenanigans all over again. Some people never seem to learn.

You don't get the benefit of the doubt.  You're supposed to be transparent as an escrow.  It is clear that you are acting as escrow for one scam after another, always making sure to have a scapegoat to take the blame for you.  Many people are sick of watching this BS.  Sign an address and prove the funds.

You can sign a message with multiple private keys and thus have multiple signatures, as with a multisig address. However, that would not map to a multisig address but rather three signatures with each one mapping to the three public keys used in the multisig address.


EDIT: Funny how Lauda is the one who hides other people's funds from them and refuses to show them the 3,000 BTC he has claimed, but now he uses this as a reason to leave me negative trust?
legendary
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@Boudali.Miloud
do you mind telling us the source?
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Just read all four pages of this. There is a simple solution, as @OgNasty stated. Sign a message from the account that controls the escrowed bitcoin.

Why subject yourself to all of this unnecessary "trolling" if you can simply prove that the funds are still there and in control of all or any of the aforementioned escrows?

Seems real simple to me.

Isn't it clear why?

Either there is some issue or the self-pompous-entitled bastard pussy is too arrogant and busy to respond.


P.S.: On second thoughts definitely not busy if the individual can come here to mock others.
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"a secondary Slack channel that was created in an unsuccessful attempt to assert control of the community"

Okay guys, calm down. Like what is this all about.

First of all the second Slack channel was created by me.
Secondary, the slack wasn't an 'unsuccessful' attempt.
It was legitimately 'ended' due to the fact, that the original Slack channel was recovered.

Not really hard to understand.
legendary
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Terminated.
Why subject yourself to all of this unnecessary "trolling" if you can simply prove that the funds are still there and in control of all or any of the aforementioned escrows?
I'm not sure what's more funny, the fact that people think they're entitled to make such a request or that they think that there is a standard for signing messages from multisig. Actually, it's rather sad how ignorant and/or envious you (not directed @you) have to be to do so. Roll Eyes
There was absolutely no proof provided for any of these claims, thus there is absolutely no public proof necessary to counter any of these claims. This is QS shenanigans all over again. Some people never seem to learn.
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And these are the altcoin escrow addresses, the dates they were created and the initial balances:

CoinAddressDate createdBalance
DASHXvL4uRRnwhwDiCUTSJB4Kp2JeWom9ZBkrC2017-07-02 04:34:381,916.58818631 dash
DOGEDLN2kTLDiMm6qsGoR1uCgPm1sZqa3ouxzF2017-07-04 14:36:3423,580,328.23162458 doge
ETH0x3EAE795303522b8FBff85bB113E2EE4eabfAce9A2017-08-08 06:36:206,478.235883 eth
ETC0x00d3B8f4739870D66383e15C4693CEd012178ba110 Aug 2017, 10:534,126.0107 ETC
LTCLiUAhNeKWXEC2Kj875QGM4inoPEXiPhw2w2017-07-01 22:48:077,807.37375203 LTC
maidsafecoin1Mt7MCS6b6hemmL63hZjAdLtbqxCVmh2CZ11/27/2016 7:42:57 AM765,482 maid
waves3PB7m9gLbUs3VVQEKkSuWL4QTvc4xg3UvGC2017-07-05 11:15:1531,108.76280603 waves
ripplerwdLr5vj7tg63FrEN7hdJaVQVPHieXgBAL2017-08-08 15:451,270,586 xrp


Pls note that all of the escrowed altcoins with the exception of ETC and some MAID were sent to Bittrex in July and August of 2017.
Who moved the Dash, Doge and Waves (worth usd $775,000 at the time) is unknown since nvo has never publicly stated which escrow was put in charge of those coins.

In an interesting twist, why “unknown” decided to remove 10 etc from the escrow address earlier today is unknown at this time.
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@OgNasty, vlom and others who are not yet Legendary.

These are the btc escrow addresses, the dates they were created and the initial btc balances:

AddressDate createdBalance
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z2017-05-22 17:43:590
3QV4kZtdzE8S2XdYXMbYQrgaJYBfDnypCC 2017-08-03 22:33:411497.22346798
354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf2017-08-05 18:38:361497.22086451
3ECo88VpXVaYSongyYxTYKLHNw16J1cRLK2017-11-24 17:05:051593.96883892
3Bcy5PXBjHdv5Vh3x3w8Fsi5RFPsuZzfvq2017-12-14 23:53:501313.96466437
3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv2018-01-07 20:39:111313.96255714
38PtcLxfmaNJnYHJR4Kpy2qXUFHkaTq8RX2018-06-28 16:15:021243.96201852
36Uh2ine6UzWGPTDYdENqS6pj6Rzx4Q67R2018-07-20 19:43:091143.96193946


Pls note the unexplained removal of 170 btc from escrow starting on June 28/18, the one year anniversary of the end of the crowdsale.
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Just read all four pages of this. There is a simple solution, as @OgNasty stated. Sign a message from the account that controls the escrowed bitcoin.

Why subject yourself to all of this unnecessary "trolling" if you can simply prove that the funds are still there and in control of all or any of the aforementioned escrows?

Seems real simple to me.
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It might also dispel the rumors that those coins were sold and the proceeds used to partially reimburse Coinpayments users who lost all of their XRP in the “hack” of June 5/17.
Who exactly is spreading these rumors and where? Another shill account spreading nonsense. Roll Eyes

Why are you replying to a post that shouldn’t concern you in any way? Roll Eyes

Also, do you not see the hypocrisy in your statement which claims that mine is a shill account, while yours is currently shilling 24/7 for “FortuneJack”, an online gambling site?
Tell me something: Do you fully endorse this site and the social harm it causes or do you hold your nose when you count the coins they send you each week?

In any event, pls run along now and finish selling all of the altcoins that you sent to Bittrex more than a year ago.
legendary
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this has to be posted here too. bump.


It does seem to be that way.  Until funds are moved to a public address and the address signed by an escrow agent, I would advise everyone to hold the appropriate parties responsible for this lack of transparency.  The only reasons that Lauda would not move funds to a public address and sign it is 1) he's lying about the amount of funds raised, or 2) he's lying about what he's been using those funds for.  Escrows work for the buyers, not the ICO.  If they are refusing to show your money and account for it, they have effectively already scammed you, regardless of the outcome.

thank you for pointing this out. That's a good assessment and summary
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While I was in his bounty seen he was tagged, but now i am not participating because he is major Scammer and don't credit the tokens or stakes.
Here is a link where Digaran was saying about wapinter Tagged
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41055834

Well, rest asured. Wapinter is red again after suchmoon took proper responsibility. Now Lauda should take responsibility by stopping his cooperation with Wapinter and of course in this thread by posting the requested information.

Cooperation with a scam posting bounty manager and running a scamming escrow service (and a whole lot more). And I get tagged for understandably calling Lauda's nature 'scammy'? This person has so much scam in his aura that he really and finally should be kicked out of DT. Or is he going to post the requested information here proving his escrow innocence?
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While I was in his bounty seen he was tagged, but now i am not participating because he is major Scammer and don't credit the tokens or stakes.
Here is a link where Digaran was saying about wapinter Tagged
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41055834

Still not seeing stats about the Money that has been escrowed by these 3 plus 1 people.


And there won't be any stats... Ton himself said "if you don't trust us wait for the spreadsheet from escrows..." just for Lauda to tell the investors that she won't release any info or TXID about the released milestones, even if after a question like "will you tell US (the investors) to which addresses the milestones were released" she answered "I didn't plan on compiling that but I can" as you can see in the screenshot...

https://i.imgur.com/qVPD26u.jpg

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/282170246#o=1 the milestone released in December... 60BTC for example still sitting in the account of the team...
Plus I've tracked another 30 which probably are/were still in control of the team as a few days ago... https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/334679638#i=0 (30BTC send a few hours after the first questions about the remaining funds from the team were raised...)
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I don't know why this thread is locked https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wapinter-is-running-an-ann-bumping-service-4566587 and wapinter got positive ratings LOL
https://archive.li/Vhzcv.

Wapinter used to be tagged red. Do you have a screenshot or an archive about that? It may be handy in other threads. He was probably 'untagged' because he now cooperates with Lauda in bounty campaigns. You can send his former red tag proof to me through PM, otherwise there will be complaints about going off topic here.

While I was in his bounty seen he was tagged, but now i am not participating because he is major Scammer and don't credit the tokens or stakes.
Here is a link where Digaran was saying about wapinter Tagged
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41055834

Still not seeing stats about the Money that has been escrowed by these 3 plus 1 people.



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I don't know why this thread is locked https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wapinter-is-running-an-ann-bumping-service-4566587 and wapinter got positive ratings LOL
https://archive.li/Vhzcv.

Wapinter used to be tagged red. Do you have a screenshot or an archive about that? It may be handy in other threads. He was probably 'untagged' because he now cooperates with Lauda in bounty campaigns. You can send his former red tag proof to me through PM, otherwise there will be complaints about going off topic here.

this is not about Lauda. This is about what happened with the NVO money and what the escrows did. And there where three (four) of them: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed and (CoinPayments).

This is not about some abstract escrow service either. It is about the escrow service and therefore also about MinerJones, Blazed and Lauda.

Team members of scam projects are also not considered as innocent. Right?

Back to the topic and waiting to see Lauda stats.
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Accused mainly by (1) people red-tagged by Lauda, and (2) Quicksy's gang of alts.
I'm neither

I don't believe you.

Coming from you, that's rich...  Grin

But yeah still to see a rational response on part of escrows.


BTW Wasn't Blazed a sold account ?
legendary
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this is not about Lauda. This is about what happened with the NVO money and what the escrows did. And there where three (four) of them: Lauda, MinerJones, Blazed and (CoinPayments).
This does not change anything. Proof is still needed. But i have to admit that i am loosing faith.

written be Ton:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NVO/comments/9627up/regarding_coinpayments_one_of_the_escrows/
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To clarify on the situation with Coinpayments : Coinpayments is only an escrow and one of the top investors for NVO. They were apart of the project because I(Ton) originally contacted them to help escrow the ICO due to previous working relationship. This decision for Coinpayments to escrow was changed because Imed preferred the three bitcointalk escrows to manage the funds resulting in Coinpayments being only responsible for escrowing a small portion of the funds raised in Maidsafe which they will refund if that is the decision the community has decided. They were never apart of this team and wasn't involved with the decision-making while displaying full support for the creation of a DEX. Coinpayments did not profit in anyway from NVO and is still only an investor. Originally as NVO was supposed to be on the Safenetwork, they invested due to their support for the Maidsafe team. When Imed attacked maidsafe they were in a neutral position and did not get involved. As for Alex, the CEO of coinpayments, he has stated that he will no longer be working with Imed due to breach of trust and has encouraged a buyback/refund due to the current conflict between cofounders. Anyone can verify this statement by contacting Coinpayments.
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He will never answer correctly, in the past Lauda told that he don't belong to ALU services, now he seriously tell I don't own Escrow Services.

I havent seen Theymos  who never take care of these forums.

Enough proofs have been provided in the past that Lauda scams or at least practises thing for which all normal users are tagged with negative trust. Unfortunately there are a bunch of high placed members who seem to profit from Lauda's scams and they keep backing him (making themselved fellow scammers).

I have asked Theymos for attention regarding this situation but got ignored. The only thing I read him post is that he was irritated about how DT trust was centralized. However he does not interfere. I also pointed out how this forum is not being ruled by clear principles but by patchwork here and there. I guess it'll be a money thing or otherwise a lack of philosophical insight. But the normal and honest users are being victimized on this forum by this principleless government with its olichargic bunch of scammers, led by Lauda.

I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before. That's why Theymos actually should interfere.
If he was REALLY Theymos, then he could have taken care of this forums. Lauda not only a scammer, but also extornist from hist past thread.
I don't know why this thread is locked https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wapinter-is-running-an-ann-bumping-service-4566587 and wapinter got positive ratings LOL
https://archive.li/Vhzcv.

Back to the topic and waiting to see Lauda stats.
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Never mind the fact that you used the "find" feature and searched for merit to which you would get duplicate results on individual feedback comments. Even if I'm generous and let you have that number of 63, if you compare that to the number of negatives that The Pharmacist has sent out in total, then these instances make up a small amount. Hence, rarely.

I could refute this shaky defense. It are the same members defending each others lies and incoherencies over and over again. But I respect and agree with the quote below:

back to topic please. then still no answers.
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Spear the bees
I rarely tag anyone for merit abuse,
Right. 'Only' 63 merit abusers were tagged by you.  Roll Eyes
Never mind the fact that you used the "find" feature and searched for merit to which you would get duplicate results on individual feedback comments. Even if I'm generous and let you have that number of 63, if you compare that to the number of negatives that The Pharmacist has sent out in total, then these instances make up a small amount. Hence, rarely.
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Accused mainly by (1) people red-tagged by Lauda, and (2) Quicksy's gang of alts.
I'm neither

I don't believe you.
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