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legendary
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It might also dispel the rumors that those coins were sold and the proceeds used to partially reimburse Coinpayments users who lost all of their XRP in the “hack” of June 5/17.
Who exactly is spreading these rumors and where? Another shill account spreading nonsense. Roll Eyes
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You’re forgetting the 4th escrow: Alex Alexandrov, Chairman and CEO of Coinpayments who was put in charge of the maidsafe coins pledged in the crowdsale.
He should also provide an audit of these coins in a public and transparent manner.
It would tell us what happened to the 229,644 MAID he sent from the escrow address 1Mt7MCS6b6hemmL63hZjAdLtbqxCVmh2CZ to Bittrex on Aug 18, 2017.
It might also dispel the rumors that those coins were sold and the proceeds used to partially reimburse Coinpayments users who lost all of their XRP in the “hack” of June 5/17.
legendary
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The investors are getting answers in appropriate communication channels which are not troll-infested such as this one. Tl;dr: Nothing is missing; the escrows (including coinpayments, who apparently nobody is going after because their name isn't Lauda) have done their job accordingly; there are more funds than what the milestones require.


i would appreciate to read something from MinerJones and Blazed. Doing nothing is not doing nothing.
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The investors are getting answers in appropriate communication channels which are not troll-infested such as this one. Tl;dr: Nothing is missing; the escrows (including coinpayments, who apparently nobody is going after because their name isn't Lauda) have done their job accordingly; there are more funds than what the milestones require.

Sign an address with the funds. It is that simple. Failure to do so can only be described as you being incompetent, a liar, or a scammer.
legendary
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Accused mainly by (1) people red-tagged by Lauda, and (2) Quicksy's gang of alts.
Thus why it is a time-wasteful and pointless venture to try discussing baseless accusations against me publicly. If you need any clarification PM me or optimally contact me on Telegram.

well, then. no answer => no multisig address that the escrow funds are in.
The investors are getting answers in appropriate communication channels which are not troll-infested such as this one. Tl;dr: Nothing is missing; the escrows (including coinpayments, who apparently nobody is going after because their name isn't Lauda) have done their job accordingly; there are more funds than what the milestones require.

the address provided in the ANN is "empty".
You don't say Sherlock?
legendary
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back to topic please. then still no answers.


What is the multisig address that the escrow funds were being held in?
How did the funds end up on Bittrex?



well, then. no answer => no multisig address that the escrow funds are in.
the address provided in the ANN is "empty".


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

Hello.

I am one of the escrows for the NVO-ICO. The 2-of-3 multi-signature address for this project will be:
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z

Lauda,
17/05/2017
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZHJdIAAoJEPTjrTxS+ZrbuQcH/ia4aFdQQe9+p6EnuuYed7gY
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JitQ3uzLlJ1OFyiRXOpO5kvSD1lGLUS2rXugULZrXZExT0xcA39j+du9QfdC/26N
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Multi-Sig BTC escrow address for the NVO crowdsale:
354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf
legendary
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back to topic please. then still no answers.


What is the multisig address that the escrow funds were being held in?
How did the funds end up on Bittrex?

full member
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Accused mainly by (1) people red-tagged by Lauda, and (2) Quicksy's gang of alts.
I'm neither and I accuse Lauda of not doing proper DD and letting a scammer like aTriz run amok on this forum using her/his credentials and trust.

back to topic please. then still no answers.


What is the multisig address that the escrow funds were being held in?
How did the funds end up on Bittrex?



@vlom You are such a positive person.
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I rarely tag anyone for merit abuse,

Right. 'Only' 63 merit abusers were tagged by you.  Roll Eyes




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Either way I realize there's no way I'm going to convince you of anything, nor is there a point to arguing with you.  You can believe what you want.

Indeed; with such figures opposing your talk you are not going to convince me, nor anyone else outside the group of Lauda defenders.
legendary
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Do you think he would use the same arguments for any random other member? No way; he would tag that member immediately negative.
I was talking about the behavior in January.  I never tagged anyone for giving huge merit awards in January.  I rarely tag anyone for merit abuse, only the worst and most obvious cases of it.  Check the feedback I left and tell me when the first time I left a neg for merit abuse was.  Early on it was a weird new system and we were all getting used to it.

Either way I realize there's no way I'm going to convince you of anything, nor is there a point to arguing with you.  You can believe what you want.
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I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before.
It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.
This is at best some merit system misuse. Can you show some proof of scamming, or even link to evidence supporting such claims?

Not all scams are direct monetary scams. Of course my example can be called also 'merit system misuse'. But the fact that all other cases of merit misuse are punished by DT members with red trust, but not that of Lauda, justifies my estimation that DT members will not stop supporting Lauda when financial scams are proven.

Simply read how The Pharmacist above tries to justify Lauda's merit misuse. Do you think he would use the same arguments for any random other member? No way; he would tag that member immediately negative. Which also shows that the trust system is abused by DT members, lead by the biggest trust abuser; Lauda. And he gets away with all that abuse because a certain group around him will defend him no matter what he will do, even when he will conduct a monetary scam.
legendary
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It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.

Sure buddy. Here's an example I posted myself: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282.

This is at best some merit system misuse. Can you show some proof of scamming, or even link to evidence supporting such claims?
legendary
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I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before.

It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.

I can tell one thing about this Lauda, the person behind this profile has been accused way to many time on this forum. So many times that it is impossible for him/her to deny not being an honest individual. If there was some kind of reward here on the forum for such individuals (like jail in the outside world for criminals), Lauda would definitely be the winner...

Accused mainly by (1) people red-tagged by Lauda, and (2) Quicksy's gang of alts.

BTW in the "outside world" people generally don't go to jail on mere accusations, at least that's not how it's supposed to work. And this forum already has a "reward" system in the form of trust ratings.
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I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before.

It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.

I can tell one thing about this Lauda, the person behind this profile has been accused way to many time on this forum. So many times that it is impossible for him/her to deny not being an honest individual. If there was some kind of reward here on the forum for such individuals (like jail in the outside world for criminals), Lauda would definitely be the winner...
legendary
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Looking back at that episode it does look weird, but people were doing strange things with merit in the very early days of the system.  People for whatever reason didn't think 50 merit grants were a big deal, and older, well-established members were getting huge amounts of merit regardless of how objectively good their posts were.  That cooled down eventually, but that just isn't how it was right when the merit system was created.

And I'd point out that Lauda has since left aTriz a negative.  That sort of wipes out the usefulness of that merit Lauda left.

By the way I'm not Lauda, regardless of what Quickseller may tell you.  It hasn't gone unnoticed that QS hasn't made that claim lately.  In fact he seems to have stopped making it once there was some money to be lost on a bet that he could produce proof.
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It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.

Sure buddy. Here's an example I posted myself: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282.
legendary
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quack
I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before.

It happened here and happened before? Rock hard proof? Could you please gather and link sources for this? Thanks.
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He will never answer correctly, in the past Lauda told that he don't belong to ALU services, now he seriously tell I don't own Escrow Services.

I havent seen Theymos  who never take care of these forums.

Enough proofs have been provided in the past that Lauda scams or at least practises thing for which all normal users are tagged with negative trust. Unfortunately there are a bunch of high placed members who seem to profit from Lauda's scams and they keep backing him (making themselved fellow scammers).

I have asked Theymos for attention regarding this situation but got ignored. The only thing I read him post is that he was irritated about how DT trust was centralized. However he does not interfere. I also pointed out how this forum is not being ruled by clear principles but by patchwork here and there. I guess it'll be a money thing or otherwise a lack of philosophical insight. But the normal and honest users are being victimized on this forum by this principleless government with its olichargic bunch of scammers, led by Lauda.

I tell you; even when rock hard proof is provided in this thread that Lauda was scamming, other DT members will still refuse to stop supporting him. It happened before. That's why Theymos actually should interfere.
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What is the multisig address that the escrow funds were being held in?  It should be public, and each withdrawal should be able to be accounted for and described by Lauda as well as the 2nd signer for the multisig wallet.  These are pretty basic requirements for an escrow and the blockchain exists as a public record to check/balance what these individuals are claiming.  There should be no room for questioning, especially when this amount of funds are involved.

i would like to know this too. but until now Lauda refused to post this.
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He will never answer correctly, in the past Lauda told that he don't belong to ALU services, now he seriously tell I don't own Escrow Services.

I havent seen Theymos  who never take care of these forums.
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Even I don't keep track of alts I've sold... (Not saying someone did; just me )  Grin Grin
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