Topic: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij/IronMarvel2/owlcatz extortion attempt - page 3. (Read 48785 times)
bump
bump
Do you have the phone numbers of callers? so that we can find where these scammers stay. it been over a year i am watching this thread still not yet gone to the police.
From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Croatia
and police webiste i think https://www.mup.hr/
From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Croatia
and police webiste i think https://www.mup.hr/
What happened:: Lauda attempted to extort another user by asking for a"cut to keep quiet" about zeroaxl's alleged criminal activity. Lauda admitted to sending an "extortion message" (highlighted archive) to zeroaxl. In the extortion message, Lauda claimed to be aware of, and have evidence of serious criminal activity that zeroaxl was allegedly involved in. Immidiately prior to sending this 'extortion message' Lauda (and upon information and belief, others) was (were) badgering zeroaxl about his alleged criminal activity.
Shortly thereafter, TMAN created a thread (various archives of the thread can be found here) that was intended to make additional claims of knowledge of alleged criminal activity on the part of zeroaxl, give additional "reminders" of the consequences of such alleged criminal activity if law enforcement were to get notified, as well as an attempt to harm zeroaxl's reputation here, making it more difficult for him to profitably conduct business in the forum.
Around the same time that Lauda sent the extortion message, minifrij opened a thread attempting to get zeroaxl banned from the forum, which would also make it more difficult for him to conduct business on the forum.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lauda-101872 - Lauda f/k/a LaudaM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tman-98986 - TMAN
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/minifrij-138940 - minifrij
Although there may be additional people that actively participated in this extortion attempt, I do not yet have concrete evidence of their participation.
Amount Scammed: It is unclear if an extortion payment was actually made or not, as the victim did not disclose an address that Lauda was asking for payment to be sent to.
Additional Notes: Upon receipt of the extortion message from Lauda, zeroaxl opened a scam accusation thread against Lauda, and about 16 hours later, all three (the threads opened by zeroaxl, TMAN, and minifrij) threads were locked, edited so that there was no content in each of their respective OPs, and moved to archival within 20 minutes of eachother.
minifrij claims to not be a part of the extortion conspiracy, however he was claiming to be well aware of the status of the extortion payment, and he did oblige (archive of his entire post) to removing his thread when zeroaxl and TMAN were "negotiating" immidiately after zeroaxl received an extortion demand.
Lauda has claimed that the 'extortion message' was an attempt to gather information as part of an investigation, however the payment of an extortion demand would not necessarily indicate guilt (see below)
>Paying an extortion payment -
>The fact that someone makes an extortion payment does not necessarily mean
>that the information claimed to be in possession of by the criminal is true.
>I had posted a couple of reasons why a victim may pay an extortion payment
>when untrue information is being threatened to be released. Another reason
>why someone may pay an extortion payment is that they are on parole, and a
>person’s parole office receiving a report of criminal activity by the victim
>may result in the victim going back to jail while this claim can be
>investigated. As a result of this,
...
>I would not consider the fact that
>someone paid an extortion payment an admission that the information used
>to extort the victim is true.
edit: March 4, 2018
After careful consideration of the relevant facts, I am adding the following people to this allegation:
IronMarvel2 http://archive.is/QSGC5#selection-4687.0-4686.2
owlcatz http://archive.is/QSGC5#selection-4995.0-5004.1
The reason being is that they were either harassing the victim by making outrageous claims of crimes that no reasonable person would believe is true, or provided private personal information that was provided by the victim under the guise of it remaining confidential.
Shortly thereafter, TMAN created a thread (various archives of the thread can be found here) that was intended to make additional claims of knowledge of alleged criminal activity on the part of zeroaxl, give additional "reminders" of the consequences of such alleged criminal activity if law enforcement were to get notified, as well as an attempt to harm zeroaxl's reputation here, making it more difficult for him to profitably conduct business in the forum.
Around the same time that Lauda sent the extortion message, minifrij opened a thread attempting to get zeroaxl banned from the forum, which would also make it more difficult for him to conduct business on the forum.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lauda-101872 - Lauda f/k/a LaudaM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tman-98986 - TMAN
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/minifrij-138940 - minifrij
Although there may be additional people that actively participated in this extortion attempt, I do not yet have concrete evidence of their participation.
Amount Scammed: It is unclear if an extortion payment was actually made or not, as the victim did not disclose an address that Lauda was asking for payment to be sent to.
Additional Notes: Upon receipt of the extortion message from Lauda, zeroaxl opened a scam accusation thread against Lauda, and about 16 hours later, all three (the threads opened by zeroaxl, TMAN, and minifrij) threads were locked, edited so that there was no content in each of their respective OPs, and moved to archival within 20 minutes of eachother.
minifrij claims to not be a part of the extortion conspiracy, however he was claiming to be well aware of the status of the extortion payment, and he did oblige (archive of his entire post) to removing his thread when zeroaxl and TMAN were "negotiating" immidiately after zeroaxl received an extortion demand.
Lauda has claimed that the 'extortion message' was an attempt to gather information as part of an investigation, however the payment of an extortion demand would not necessarily indicate guilt (see below)
>Paying an extortion payment -
>The fact that someone makes an extortion payment does not necessarily mean
>that the information claimed to be in possession of by the criminal is true.
>I had posted a couple of reasons why a victim may pay an extortion payment
>when untrue information is being threatened to be released. Another reason
>why someone may pay an extortion payment is that they are on parole, and a
>person’s parole office receiving a report of criminal activity by the victim
>may result in the victim going back to jail while this claim can be
>investigated. As a result of this,
...
>I would not consider the fact that
>someone paid an extortion payment an admission that the information used
>to extort the victim is true.
edit: March 4, 2018
After careful consideration of the relevant facts, I am adding the following people to this allegation:
IronMarvel2 http://archive.is/QSGC5#selection-4687.0-4686.2
owlcatz http://archive.is/QSGC5#selection-4995.0-5004.1
The reason being is that they were either harassing the victim by making outrageous claims of crimes that no reasonable person would believe is true, or provided private personal information that was provided by the victim under the guise of it remaining confidential.
Very interesting.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
Especially bolded parts.
No.
Never lock it until it goes to the local police. 
No.
he do that with me too. Lauda
Do you have any proof of this? 
he do that with me too. Lauda
Well looking at the reference that Lauda gave you it is quite evident that you are a spammer.Sorry to say but you need to change your attitude else anywhere you go you will be in trouble.
he do that with me too. Lauda
Why does this guy left negative feedback to you? OwlCatz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
Quote
Was notified by a Legendary member to investigate a case against this user. This user works with a team of individuals on bitcointalk.org scamming under various accounts. Beware of this member because he will eventually scam you.
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
No, absolutely not. I don't scam, ever. In fact, I just got scammed myself.
Quickseller likes making shit up, everyone knows that by now, no?
Your messages just scream for RED trust
Bump
Seriously?
I guess even the NSA and the entire Pentagon agencies must be on this now.
Let it go, man.
Bump
Seriously?
I guess even the NSA and the entire Pentagon agencies must be on this now.
Let it go, man.
Bump
Seriously?
I guess even the NSA and the entire Pentagon agencies must be on this now.
Let it go, man.
Why does this guy left negative feedback to you? OwlCatz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
Quote
Was notified by a Legendary member to investigate a case against this user. This user works with a team of individuals on bitcointalk.org scamming under various accounts. Beware of this member because he will eventually scam you.
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
No, absolutely not. I don't scam, ever. In fact, I just got scammed myself.
Quickseller likes making shit up, everyone knows that by now, no?
Did you ever asked that guy to remove Tag from his profile, you must check it who reported about you.
Why does this guy left negative feedback to you? OwlCatz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
Quote
Was notified by a Legendary member to investigate a case against this user. This user works with a team of individuals on bitcointalk.org scamming under various accounts. Beware of this member because he will eventually scam you.
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
No, absolutely not. I don't scam, ever. In fact, I just got scammed myself.
Quickseller likes making shit up, everyone knows that by now, no?
wow @@ i don't think so
Why does this guy left negative feedback to you? OwlCatz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1153943
Quote
Was notified by a Legendary member to investigate a case against this user. This user works with a team of individuals on bitcointalk.org scamming under various accounts. Beware of this member because he will eventually scam you.
OWLCATZ Does this statement is correct?
Lol... Look at all the quicksy-alts who merited this post, along with his alt, OGnasty....
Says volumes to me.... Maybe someday the forum users will figure out the big picture around here...
Why you keep bumping this dead horse thread?Says volumes to me.... Maybe someday the forum users will figure out the big picture around here...
To show everyone it's
FAKE NEWS
Jump to: