Topic: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner - page 28. (Read 284882 times)

If theory I have seen about coupons expiring before you can order next generation machine, then we may be safe on current generation for 6 months.  I think my coupons expiring end of June if I remember correctly.  So if you figure order July 1 arrive September.  That would be worst case.  Though maybe we'll see a decred miner before that?  Just thinking next gen for L3.

I ALWAYS want to be wrong...but ever since Bitmain last summer 'took' the order of mine off the truck (according to eastshore.xyz rep) because the price was pumping to

$25 then from like $8 bucks or some such...(if I remember correctly) due to a 'firmware error' and they then mined them for 6 weeks...and I got them 8 weeks later...well

a bit of suspicion don't ya know..especially when the firmware was labeled YET January 2017...

Add all the other 'games' they have played 'since' last summer of 2017..and you begin to 'suspect' a worldwide evil genius plan.....

also ..beware of bitmain 'giving coupon' from last year...it is a 'trap' of some sort that will become apparent...

but yeah....I'd love to be wrong...but Bitmain moving out of china...current psu's labeled 'hong kong' not 'china' now...coupons that expire end of May...etc etc

miners with psu's for a set price ...(likely used and yanked off the shelf)

yep, its a trap.....trouble is at 50% income tax (35% plus 10% state plus say 5% social security...so I call it 50% to be safe) I badly need equipment....

so probably will eventually take a chance ..if I can hang out till AFTER the giant dump of asic equip of many flavors by bitmain in march/april

but alas, will likely be a 'fail' on my part on how to time to get equipment with this dump of equip/likely new ASIC generations of equip over summer they will mine like hell

and of course....even if you WANT to order ...the www site lags out .if you are out of China so you are still F*cked.....

yeah....

please, please, let me be wrong! (though a price pump to 300 or 400 LTC would take more than  a bit of pressure off....if the ASIC gods are watching)

IT comes down to really, why is bitmain giving coupons? hmmmmm.....why the rush? yeah...afraid its a trap of some sort...we will see...

bitmain ...same evil orchestra.....different evil tunes..... rinse/wash/repeat (tm bitmain)

LMAO Searing....I suspect you are closer to the truth than "not".

Hope you are correct

my view however

1) Bitmain mines the hell out of stuff from Jan to March/April when it allows a MASS DUMP of L3+'s to ship during that time frame...loving that pre-order BCH etc

2) Bitmain say around MAY (still dumping OLD generation ASIC's or both BTC and LTC favor)....announces new ASIC's in the fall..say 1TB 400watts or some such)

and at around MAY, last of L3+'s trickle out and/or other asic's of other flavors....all trickle to the end....sale site now empty

3) Bitmain then, with pre-order money and only its own equip to use for itself (of any asic flavor)  mines like hell with its NEW generation equipment in data halls from say around May/June

when consumers start to get the new stuff in  Sept/Oct...till then all bitmain, slaming difficulty up of many flavors of protocols and scrypt-pow (er maybe not x11 heh, already dead)

4) Thus in a 9 month or so period you will RECIEVE your pre-paid scrypt-pow miners all at the same time ...about 1 month March/April and 1 month say Sept/0ct

with the other months all bitmain all balls to the wall....w/o anybody but themeselves really slam'ing difficulty up in mass.

5) also notice these coupons as they try to move the last of the old stock L3+'s etc are NO GOOD after MAY ..another attempt to move out old stock for new in a pre-order manner

without any 'benifit' of these coupons being used..for fall say, new generation equipment...thus expect the new asic generation equipment to be announced after the coupons expire (June I

think that would be)


6) anyway, again, IMHO, we need $300 buck LTC for my stuff I have now LEGACY I have not march/april L3+'s as an  example here coming just the legacy stuff (L3's, L3+'s and my KNC

Titans) to make the $$$ they make NOW on the March/April equip dump.....

7) Also, IMHO for the folk getting their stuff in March/April of at least the scrypt-pow flavor....for L3+'s will need $400 buck LTC to maybe ROI and for myself with legacy equipment this

means, in my case,  maybe my bitmain stuff can 'squeak' into fall and my knc titans will likely go 'doorstop' sometime in the fall vs sometime beginning of summer w/o any of the above.

which means EVERYBODY in scrypt-pow mining needs/wants/prays for at least $300 buck LTC or we are gonna be equipment rich/difficulty slam'd and Sh*t out of luck.. come March/April

whatever your are up to ...running legacy equip or the new march/april dump to everyone...this maybe likely with again other equip for BTC as well

.....ie the usual bitmain 'toaster city' result

But as 'evil genius' goes..they as usual, seem to have all the 'evil angles' covered

bitmain: bringing your new and innovative ways of 'pure evil' for your enjoyment! (tm: bitmain)

Yeahh i found that coupons in my account too, not selling, just use the first one of 200 usd, and bought a new L3+, lets grow the farm    you can use only one coupon on each order, this coupons are give to us for each buy we made in the past months, so is nice detail from Bitmain to engage us to buy more and it works, at least with me 

In the past, you would need to submit a new order and then pay for everything except the $600 that you already have credited. Then you would submit a ticket asking for the $600 to be credited to the specific order.

coupons
2x125 for 50 each
4x200 for 80 each

available. plz PM if interested

anyone knows how to get credit overpaid
i have overpaid for $600 and they said will be credited but there is no option to mention credit and how to spent??
cuopons
85x$100
6x$200
wtf how split those i didnt order anything 85 pcs???
and no order of 6 item either??

my thoughts are they mined (at least mostly L3+'s from what I can tell) (again all this is IMHO) ...anyway they mined the heck out of stuff from Jan till March/April...

hell...probably from Dec thru March/April....then all the $$$ collected for these units to clear out...they dump april/may in a mass dump...when 3 months in the consumers

can get the  mainly L3+ ASIC miners........then they use the revenue from the say Dec to March/April dump of BCH $$$ to them to help tide them over..for the next 2-3 months as they

ramp up the plant for NEW better ASIC equipment (outside of China asap).. for less power and maybe over 1TB units ..there are rumors about...they THEN use those units to fill the data

halls OUTSIDE of China ...cutting most if not all strings...or at least for newer miners they now have.....old equipment dumped....mainly in the March/April 'splash' to consumers.....and again

as per usual...they mine the new equipment over the summer ...in their NEW outside of China data halls and announce consumer version

say around Sept/Oct (pre-orders of course 3 months again ...like they did for Dec thru March)...and it is win/win/win again for bitmain (bitmain: we do evil well!) (tm:bitmain)

rinse/wash/repeat

(also under my above 'hopefully' fantasy....my coupons ($200 bucks) would expire before being able to be used on new asic equip..should I choose to play

this game again with bitmain of 'catch the falling knife on ROI' game...in the fall ...at god knows what difficulty from the above march/april and new equip data halls churning thru summer

in the fall of 2018.....slim pikins likely..

all above is unlikely....but bitmain has done trickier things then my above 'hopeful' fiction...just saying....its how they roll!

(bitmain: evil requires people to make an ASIC screenplay....to plot the sub-plots!) (tm: bitmain)

So again, about $300 buck LTC and my stuff I run now (scrypt-pow wise) may last into the summer (knc titans, L3's and perhaps past that L3+'s) with what I expect for an

equipment dump by bitmain to consumers march/april..data hall scheme above..etc...so again IMHO, always behind the bitmain 8 ball on ROI and when to get equipment...

So timing being everything, and bitmain with 90% of asic equipment of 'many flavors' ....(plus the damn crummy web site and 3am purchasing of 10 min window)....things

might be 'damn slim' for NON-dubious asic scrypt-pow equipment....then again I suppose, as long as I am wishing I can HOPE for $400 LTC and run what I have into fall

but that too is probably 'unicorn dreams' (too many damn unicorns...price pump unicorns...equip roi unicorns.....difficulty stomping unicorns.....damn hard to get the

herd to all run the way I want...with bitmain controlling all them unicorns)

bitmain: unicorn herding is NOT our forte....unicorn stampedes for difficulty and profit...yeah....we can do that!) (tm: bitmain)

hopefully the above is simply 'a bad dream screenplay' on my part.

...god knows I'm wrong about lots of other stuff.....hope I'm wrong about the above timeline/bitmain flow...

Unfortunately, you can't stack them.

I have a feeling they are trying to clean out some inventory. Is this how Bitmain puts stuff on sale? 

Who knows, I just logged in and found 2 x $100 coupons, they didn't even send me an email to let me know.

Late ang pau probably...

Why is everyone getting coupons from Bitmain?

Lol I love it! Although I do agree!

Great..so the frigging coupons I have from last fall are likely ONLY good till June if lucky July 2018...even this miner perk seems also to be 'illusion city' in reality

I doubt I will find anything of any bitmain flavor that will make ROI sense by that point in time......as usual even lame coupons ..turn

'crispy evil' if enough time goes by.....(bitmain did not make 4 billion dollars more than Nvidia (in 20 years) bitmain (did in 4 years) by having 'idle hands'

bitmain: (evil never rests....)


edit: (yeah, I"m conflicted...with 90% of miners to the public being Bitmain...I need equipment for tax purposes badly this year, but they are evil and ROI is dubious
at best.....kinda a 'do you want to be dropped in the tiger pit on the right or the bear pit on the left?)

sheesh.....save me anybody ASIC maker...that is just lame and not evil...wherever you are! (plays: we need a hero song, in mind)

I seem to be involved in the past and probably in the future in an "abusive ASIC relationship" ....so it seems ....damn.....

I am selling coupons too lol. Man u have more than me though.


Selling at 25% of coupon price aka 75% off.
2 bitmain 200 USD Coupon, 2 bitmain 125 USD coupons, 12 bitmain 100 USD coupon, 1 bitmain 50 USD coupon
PM me

I have some Bitmain coupons for sale if anyone is interested. I have

13- $200 USD coupons
12- $125 USD coupons
26- $100 USD coupons
2  - $50   USD coupons

The $200 and $100 coupons are good until June, the $50 and the $125 are good until July!

30% off of the value. We can do them 1 at a time if it makes you feel safe. PM me for details. Cheers!

I assume you meant about $11/day each = $22/day total...

I haven't gotten my L3 yet but I've followed mining for a while.  At one point in the not so distant past the S9 was pulling in $30+/day, at that time L3s were bringing <$20/day since bitcoin pretty much leads the pack most of the time and litecoin hadn't increased in value as much.
The L3 seems to be holding pretty well in the  ~$10-20/day range, while the S9 fluctuated from ~$10-30/day range. All that being said, I personally like the fact that the L3 isn't as power hungry, and I like the litecoin project so I'm going to give it a shot. 

I think you will make more over time if you went S9 unless there is a huge influx of next generation miners before you ROI...

For those of you mining litecoin with L3+, how much litecoin are you ACTUALLY generating per day? And have there been any sharp decreases in this amount? I don't want links to profit calculators please...

I'm debating whether or not to buy more L3+'s vs S9's given the lower cost of the L3+s. The breakdown I was thinking is either:

(18) L3+'s and (10) S9's

Or just go all in with 40 L3+'s

Profits seem to be about the same compared to an S9 and, at about half the price, seems like a better investment (esp considering electricity demands of the units). I'm making about .0011 BTC per day on each of my two S9's (about $22/day).

Sold the July ones, bought some Nov ones, sold those and bought some March ones.  Not even going to open the boxes.