Topic: Learning from those who have experience - page 13. (Read 2299 times)

By default I've always grow the fear of gambling addiction and that's coming from experience in my local area where lives of men turned upside down because of gambling addiction, they later result into drinking heavily and that makes them turn into drunkard because they can't get over the losses and damages they have done.

It's terrifying as a kid to grow up seeing such things unfold and at that time I have always promised my parents to never grow up to be a gambler, I know that gambling is not the issue here but the impact it could create on someone's life is very scary.

Today I do gamble on a few casinos but damn I am very active inside of me, the past stories of those men living close to us still haunt me, I don't want to end up like them that's why I cautiously engage in gambling activities.

Aren't you offended by what I have said. I think that is not true because you know that the discussion you are making is for the purpose of change for gambling addicts even though other members have already opened topics like this.

You want to know why I asked you about the level of addiction you have. Many people ask how to stop addiction even though they only mean something else, one of which is to make them look serious about it.
The old me barely knew how to stop making deposits to be able to play. Not enough from morning to evening, continue again at night. Not much if the exchange rate is in dollars, but if the exchange rate is in fiat currency, a day and a night are quite large.

I give advice based on my experience. So now I've stopped playing. The answer is no. I still actively play but only on weekends at football matches.
A close friend of mine once asked me how I could stop using my old habits. After I gave it to him and he couldn't do it until now his habit hasn't changed. That's what I mean, it's useless to give advice or ways to stop addiction given by everyone on this topic if there is no motivation from within yourself.

Hopefully you can get through it.

According to statistics, only a small percentage of players recover from gambling addiction on their own. This is because the approach to treatment draws attention to many factors:
1) the age of the player - I think the younger the player, the harder his gambling addiction is. Young people do not know how to earn money with an honest qualified shopping mall, and when they win and get a large amount of money, they are almost unstoppable.
2) the presence of gamblers-friends and how many of them are dependent - no comments here, the environment strongly affects us.
3) the presence of money in the family - the rich are more addicted.

I am confused about how much gambling addiction I experience today, because there are no concrete parameters to indicate the level or amount.
The small amount of money that I budget for my gambling is true, but sometimes there are many X factors that make me make deposits continuously, whether it's the environment, feelings and others that can make me impulsive in gambling, so with advice from friends it will be useful for me .

I opened this thread based on my personal desire to find out what I should do, if I didn't care about advice maybe I wouldn't open this thread, that's logical.
And these past few days I've been doing it gradually, and I think I'm better than before.

I guess the simply answer is that your priority is gambling, simply as that. In my case during that time, even if I have work, then I will gamble till the early part of the morning, to the point that I can't go and come to the office the next day because I have lose so much money and then I don't have enough sleep.


Well as for my experience, I really have to learn it the hard way when I lost my job. And so the the following days I have to scramble and how to make money again for my gambling and for my kids and how to bring food in the table. So I guess that is the way up call for me to get out of my gambling addiction and to totally break from it. And with that, although I'm stlll gambling in sports betting and then playing slots in land base and offline, I come to realized that I have been wrong in the past with myself becoming a gambling addict.

The perfect way to break free from gambling addiction is to understand how gambling truly works, know the facts, and accept the facts, gambling is wired in a way that it favors the casinos more than the gamblers.

If you can understand this very well you will see the true image of gambling and it's not worth taking unnecessary risks on, It's not a do-or-die something, your business and your other investment ways are better than gambling.

Those who get addicted to gambling lacks a true understanding of what gambling is, or probably they are the one that is fooling themselves, It's possible to understand gambling and still get addicted but such people are fools, your friend can make a lot of money from gambling and that doesn't mean you will get the same luck.

Maybe you mean that the best teacher in gambling is the first with the bitter experience we have experienced and the second is by looking at the downturn of others, well that's very true, indirectly by for example seeing the downturn of others then surely at least we will be more discouraged to continue gambling, and maybe by trying slowly to stop from that activity. In my opinion, if you have run out of money, it is better for you to rest than to borrow from others to gamble again, because obviously the final result is not necessarily winning but losing is very possible. Remember rest is very important, don't stay there too long because not only do you lose money but you might also get stressed.

Well that's very clear, I also never thought there would be people who have the mindset of gambling to make money or even consistently it's just nonsense. So the point is how can a result that only relies on luck be made as a place to earn income, it doesn't make sense.

The best teacher in terms of gambling is what we have come to tell ourselves, the realities that have come to our faces and one of it is that if we lack the finance to keep playing hugely the way we use to play then our addiction will start to reduce. If you have a reduced playing time because of lack of money and no one to borrow from, naturally the habit will be curtailed to bearest minimum and with time even if we come back, we should have learnt our lessons and play reasonably.

It is not a source of income, this is another factor that will help an addict gambler to be cautious of what he is doing. This factor is difficult to be assimilated by those who see it as source of income but that is the reality, gambling is not a means of source of income because it doesn't profit you all the time.

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

I agree with you, when a person got addicted, the first thing that he losses is the self control.  Just like in gambling, a gambler in the beginning have all the control in his gambling engagement but once he got hooked and his discipline starts deteriorating, he will be having a hard time to stop or moderate his own gambling session.  The difference between a gambler when he is starting out is that he can control his gambling urge while when he got addicted to gambling, the urge to gamble in uncontrollable.  So anyone who is addicted really needs a third party support and understanding. Aside from that the gambling addict also needs medical treatment to get cured and at the same time prevent lapses. 

So we should always make sure while we still have control over our gambling session that we gamble responsibly and moderate our engagement with gambling.  Learn from others experience and set it as an example or warning so that we can avoid gambling addiction and keep ourselves sane.

How big is your addiction level that you feel you need tips to get rid of your gambling addiction?
I'm not really sure that you have a big addiction to gambling because not all of your money is used for gambling. My guess is that you only use a small portion of your money for gambling because you also have other needs.

The desire to stop gambling is a quite positive initiative because it can bring about extraordinary changes to financial management. However, all the advice given will be useless if the motivation from within you is not strong. If so, then no more all such suggestions are nonsense.

Just forget what we have said and we are happy if you can apply everything we have said. Good luck.

Almost but you know the nature of human beings without having money as they've all lost through gambling makes you wanna stop or control it because you have come to realize that it's not that good that you have no more money left. When you have nothing on yourself and you want to gamble, that's actually itching and you don't know what to do because you're uncomfortable with your situation. And if there are gamblers who are still struggling to help themselves and can't stop gambling, you need some realization if it's not doing you any good at all.
To the point that you're no longer the old you and you're spending money a lot and affects the way of your living, seeking professional help is one solution to that. But many gamblers that deal with gambling addiction are too shy to do that because they feel that they might be judged by the people that they'll ask for help, please don't like that. If you want help, then ask for help without thinking you'll be judged.

Interesting, in most cases, I see the phenomenon of addicts who have difficulty recovering from their addiction. IMO, as far as I know, also referring to my personal experience, self-control does not guarantee that someone will be able to avoid the effects of addiction. Talking about self-control is not as easy as what we talk about. in fact, we have to involve many other elements or factors. For me, self-control is a complement, because there are other elements that are guidelines that gamblers should have if they don't want to become addicts. The problem is, when we play or bet, emotional factors will play a role in our gambling session. When we are in lucky mode, emotions of joy will fill our adrenaline. but in this phase, sometimes we don't know the right time to stop.

On the other hand, in the phase when we experience defeat, emotions will also play a role in our psychology. At this point, what usually arises is the emotion of anger. which in the end, we are triggered to make another deposit. even though, we are very aware that self-control is really needed in phases and situations like this. However, due to the difficulty of controlling ourselves, in the end we get carried away by situations which can ultimately have detrimental effects on ourselves. The point is, to support self-control we need responsibility, understanding about gambling. plus, awareness of the essence of what we are gambling for. Thus, the self-control we have may benefit from activities involving this hobby. Even so, there is nothing wrong with what you said. After all, we have different assumptions and understandings.

Gambling can be learnt, but the same will not bring the same result as the person from whom you've learnt it. Gambling is much about luck as well as calculations. One can be good enough to analyse well and keep himself under control. However the goodness and the success relies on the luck one holds. When a person shares his winning/losing story we should be good enough to understand it and experiment with small funds for longer time. This is where most of the beginners mistake. They just take everything positive and go ahead, and end up losing. With gambling we shouldn't be positive all the time, we should know our limits and we should not spend on gambling with the planning of making ourselves millionaires.

Self-control isn't something easy to have. If you are not an experienced gambler, it is hard to control the emotion when experiencing losses. This emotion leads to more and more attempts in gambling, then we become more often in gambling. Finally, this habits makes us to be addiction. That's because the chance to recover the losses is small, so we always try to expects big wins someday. This expectation makes us to spend bigger funds, when the funds is over we decide to take loan money.

In addition, good self-control will be easy to have if a gambler know well what the gambling is. Unfortunately, many gamblers don't understand what attitude should be in gambling. Chasing wins, expect rich instantly, or wants get stable income from gambling, these the indicators that a gambler doesn't understand well what gambling is.

Do you now feel like you have become someone who is addicted to gambling? If so, then you should immediately consult a psychiatrist, they know what you have to do to suppress your desire to gamble, but in several cases i have heard of, there have been successes in stopping gambling addiction after undergoing hypnosis therapy, maybe you can try that method. 

For someone who is new to gambling or has just won, the desire to continue gambling will of course continue to arise and consulting to overcome this is the best way, don't let your addiction get worse, your social activities will be disrupted.

Learning from experienced players how to control our gambling habits is the best method to escape addiction. Most times it's best to have them around you in real life, watch how they go about their daily activities, it'll help the addicted player to shape his/her bad gambling attitude. One of the things to learn from experts, may include, managing our money by setting out a specific amount that we must stake for the day. If exhausted gambling for the day ends.

The worst part of addiction, is lack of self control. If an addicted person doesn't manage their funds,  when they go broke, you'll see that such person will do anything possible just to gamble or win. Another good strategy is to stay with people friends or relatives who are not gamblers, join them in their daily activities, like sports or useful discussions. This will help the addicted player to forget gambling for some times, thereby reducing the urge to gamble as usual.

Exactly,  learning how to protect yourself from getting addicted is the best form of practice and this is more so when you take every possible precaution to avoid getting addicted in the first place, A lot of newbies have used the help from this discussion to learn how sliding into addictions and avoid addictions since it has been proven that it is easier to get addicted,  but very hard to get out of it.

So the best practice is to safeguard yourself from getting addicted instead of trying to get out of it, Most of the gambling addicts who have come out of addictions have taken a long time and changes to come along which not everybody will be willing to take such route.

I dont really understand what you mean by hard addiction experience in gambling. I think you should throw more light on that. But when it comes to addiction in gambling greed and impatience is the ultimate cause.