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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 17, 2023, 11:22:52 PM

Quote from: Yatsan on September 05, 2023, 01:15:32 PM

If I'm not mistaken there are threads on the same subject but to still answer your question, I once had a hard time managing my gambling habits. I was before spending $3k four times a week (which is a huge amount for me), not including extra bets on remaining days of the week. What made me realize things is when I quit my job back then. Money became more of a struggle which knocked me on my feet. Realization pushed me to manage my finances since then, and also made me see how hard it is to earn money and why it is not advisable to spend that much in gambling. Quite of a cliché story but for sure many of us came to that realization.

Nowadays I am limiting my weekly budget in gambling to $500 'coz this is the amount I can afford losing in exchange for chances and entertainment.

- OMG! 3000 dollars; do you know that with that amount I can buy a land between 100 square meters and more? Then you only gambled for a week. This is also a strong addiction you experience. Since I don't have a gambling addiction, I can also learn from the experiences of others here.

Just like you, I also learned a lesson from 3k$ to 500$ weekly, but it's still big for me. In our country, that amount is the salary of a manager or public teacher for one month. But that's still big, and I can see that the remaining addiction to gambling is still big; anyway it's still your money.

$ 3000 is very large for average salaries in developing countries including in my country, I am the biggest $ 500- $ 1500 to spend money in gambling, maybe the value I spend is not so great for many people here, but for me it is very large that makes I want to stop gambling, at least I can release addiction in gambling even though I still want to play.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on September 05, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

I cannot talk for my experience because I only have a little and not turn addicted from ther e, but there is a friend that I come to know who manage to leave addiction and now a good and managed gambler.
allocating small amount each time when playing and yes can manage to stand the table at all time it needed.

But treating a gambling problem can help you regain a sense of control — and possibly help heal damaged relationships or finances. Treatment for compulsive gambling may include these approaches: Therapy. Behavioral therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy may be helpful.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+it+possible+to+recover+from+gambling+addiction&rlz=1C1KNTJ_enPH946PH946&oq=managing+gambling+addiction&aqs=chrome.4.69i57j0i22i30j0i390i650l5.12163j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Google says it is possible , but we must go through proper treatment and of course , with our own dedication and perseverance .

I thank those of you who have suggested seeing the article from Google, but I try not to depend on Google, so I want to ask the people here to give their experience stories in completing their addiction, because it is indeed quite better than I read From the free article out there, but I say thank you in advance.
And indeed what is conveyed in the article is not much different from what is expressed by people who give advice here, but they are far more explicit and short.

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Quote from: maydna on September 17, 2023, 11:26:36 AM

Quote from: sompitonov on September 17, 2023, 05:03:49 AM

It is at the moment when we decide to exceed our spending per day in the game that we cross the line which is called addiction. If we think about winning, then this is a direct path to losing. But naturally, the vast majority think about it and enter the game.

Watching professional players, I noticed that they have a fire inside that drives them to develop in order to know all the subtleties. I would even say they have an addiction on the edge, with which they know how to balance on a thin thread, but almost never fall.

Many people have experienced this and even become seriously addicted to gambling. They cannot stay within their limits because there is a temptation to continue gambling, so they decide to exceed their budget limits. This will happen to people trying to chase victory because they don't think about ending their gambling but still want another win.

Professional players have all the abilities to overcome problems that may arise while they are gambling so that they will not become addicted. They already know what to do if something bothers them, such as greed to chase more wins. And they are different from most gamblers in that they can avoid gambling addiction. That's why we need to learn to gamble responsibly from them so that we don't experience big losses.

People are drawn to winning, which can impair their judgement. Pros usually plan to curb their cravings.

Knowledge becomes power here. Knowing the risks makes you more cautious. Copying pros may seem like the ideal way to improve, but they've been practising for a long time and know everything about the game.

While their approaches can help, self-awareness and persistence are the greatest ways to fight addiction. You must know when to bet and when to quit.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on September 05, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

I cannot talk for my experience because I only have a little and not turn addicted from ther e, but there is a friend that I come to know who manage to leave addiction and now a good and managed gambler.
allocating small amount each time when playing and yes can manage to stand the table at all time it needed.

But treating a gambling problem can help you regain a sense of control — and possibly help heal damaged relationships or finances. Treatment for compulsive gambling may include these approaches: Therapy. Behavioral therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy may be helpful.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+it+possible+to+recover+from+gambling+addiction&rlz=1C1KNTJ_enPH946PH946&oq=managing+gambling+addiction&aqs=chrome.4.69i57j0i22i30j0i390i650l5.12163j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Google says it is possible , but we must go through proper treatment and of course , with our own dedication and perseverance .

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Quote from: Yatsan on September 05, 2023, 01:15:32 PM

Quote from: khiholangkang on September 05, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

If I'm not mistaken there are threads on the same subject but to still answer your question, I once had a hard time managing my gambling habits. I was before spending $3k four times a week (which is a huge amount for me), not including extra bets on remaining days of the week. What made me realize things is when I quit my job back then. Money became more of a struggle which knocked me on my feet. Realization pushed me to manage my finances since then, and also made me see how hard it is to earn money and why it is not advisable to spend that much in gambling. Quite of a cliché story but for sure many of us came to that realization.

Nowadays I am limiting my weekly budget in gambling to $500 'coz this is the amount I can afford losing in exchange for chances and entertainment.

- OMG! 3000 dollars; do you know that with that amount I can buy a land between 100 square meters and more? Then you only gambled for a week. This is also a strong addiction you experience. Since I don't have a gambling addiction, I can also learn from the experiences of others here.

Just like you, I also learned a lesson from 3k$ to 500$ weekly, but it's still big for me. In our country, that amount is the salary of a manager or public teacher for one month. But that's still big, and I can see that the remaining addiction to gambling is still big; anyway it's still your money.

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Quote from: molsewid on September 17, 2023, 11:50:35 AM

The moment we accept and have a self awareness that oh I am addicted now in gambling that where the recovery will start, because we no longer deny that thought and that emotion. We all know that it is hard to get out to the trap in addiction but in case we are get addicted not only in gambling we should seek help to professionals because they know the best for us.

It is often mentioned that the first step to leave an addiction behind is for the addicted to recognize that they are addicted, if that first step is not taken then that person will always come up with excuses about why they are fine and they are in complete control of their behavior, even if for anyone that is around them is obvious this is not the case.

However it is also important to mention that even if a person admits they are indeed addicted there is no guarantee they will be able to fully recover.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 16, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

Experience from pro gamblers will aides us in most sectors of gambling, more like a step to step. Making plans not to end up like other worse gamblers that have liquidated their accounts due to the significant losses they recorded in gambling. I'm always exploring more options because I have no excuse to settle for losses, bouncing back to the system witn appropriate strategy. Gambling is considered an easy activity for some of us and complicated for most of us. We only tends to be on the safer side if we apply an effective gambling strategy and know our risks management.

I am not entirely sure about that. Someone who has experience in gambling is not the type of person I would be very keen to listen and follow the advices of. I am not saying that gamblers are degenerates or anything like that but I can say that there are many among them so we should be careful, I wouldn't know if that's a good person or not, and I would have hard time caring about the suggestions and instead focus too much on trying to figure out if that person is someone to listen to or not, meanwhile miss the point of the advice at start.

This is why I believe that we are going to end up with something that will change the perception of the gamblers if we want to really care about what they say, or at least for me.

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Quote from: darewaller on September 17, 2023, 11:42:41 AM

Quote from: Winterfrost on September 10, 2023, 02:59:26 PM

I dont really understand what you mean by hard addiction experience in gambling. I think you should throw more light on that. But when it comes to addiction in gambling greed and impatience is the ultimate cause.

But, I guess you already know what the word "hard" means? And then the word "addiction"? You can just combine them to easily understand it's definition. In case you still don't know, well hard addiction is addiction that are from the highest level already. It's different from the common addiction that we know and this one is much harder to cure.

When we are on this stage, maybe we are hopeless already that we can recover but trust me or others who can say that it's possible. Not just in gambling but any other else addiction is cause by a greed or wanting to have more of that thing. We just can't get enough because these things gives us a good feeling, but yeah it also has to do with our patience.

The moment we accept and have a self awareness that oh I am addicted now in gambling that where the recovery will start, because we no longer deny that thought and that emotion. We all know that it is hard to get out to the trap in addiction but in case we are get addicted not only in gambling we should seek help to professionals because they know the best for us.

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Quote from: Winterfrost on September 10, 2023, 02:59:26 PM

I dont really understand what you mean by hard addiction experience in gambling. I think you should throw more light on that. But when it comes to addiction in gambling greed and impatience is the ultimate cause.

But, I guess you already know what the word "hard" means? And then the word "addiction"? You can just combine them to easily understand it's definition. In case you still don't know, well hard addiction is addiction that are from the highest level already. It's different from the common addiction that we know and this one is much harder to cure.

When we are on this stage, maybe we are hopeless already that we can recover but trust me or others who can say that it's possible. Not just in gambling but any other else addiction is cause by a greed or wanting to have more of that thing. We just can't get enough because these things gives us a good feeling, but yeah it also has to do with our patience.

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Quote from: sompitonov on September 17, 2023, 05:03:49 AM

It is at the moment when we decide to exceed our spending per day in the game that we cross the line which is called addiction. If we think about winning, then this is a direct path to losing. But naturally, the vast majority think about it and enter the game.

Watching professional players, I noticed that they have a fire inside that drives them to develop in order to know all the subtleties. I would even say they have an addiction on the edge, with which they know how to balance on a thin thread, but almost never fall.

Many people have experienced this and even become seriously addicted to gambling. They cannot stay within their limits because there is a temptation to continue gambling, so they decide to exceed their budget limits. This will happen to people trying to chase victory because they don't think about ending their gambling but still want another win.

Professional players have all the abilities to overcome problems that may arise while they are gambling so that they will not become addicted. They already know what to do if something bothers them, such as greed to chase more wins. And they are different from most gamblers in that they can avoid gambling addiction. That's why we need to learn to gamble responsibly from them so that we don't experience big losses.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 17, 2023, 06:03:06 AM

On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rank gambling addiction as 9. Anyone who has gotten hooked on it can attest that it is one of the most difficult addictions to break free from. Some years back, my gambling addiction was slots. I kept losing. Each time I lost, my consolation and motivation is the hope of a win in the next game but it didn't change. I remember deleting a lot of these gambling apps and closing my accounts on the gambling websites. Unfortunately, after some weeks, I'd go back, redownload the gambling apps, sign up on a new casinos website. I lost control of myself. One of the things that made it difficult quit it was, I was getting an inflows of crypto payments on an app I partnered with a friend to build. Users signed up and paid in crypto to gain access to its features.

Have you experienced the bitter experience of gambling and repeated it twice and don't you realize that the experience of gambling addiction which results in losing control over every action can make you lose more things?
From this experience you should be able to control and limit your finances even though there are supporting factors such as money in the form of crypto that goes into your gambling account and from the amount of money that comes in you can use 30% or half for gambling and the rest can be withdrawn and saved in the form of fiat.

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After I figured this out, I took a bold step. I cut the funding, that is , I made the app and it's features free for the general public. In no time, I was getting little to no crypto from this app to fund my gambling addiction and it was a game changer. My addiction came under control and now I am free from it.

If you do this it doesn't seem like a good solution because you lose the flow of profits that you can get and of course that is a big loss.
It's better to keep running it as before and only use a small amount of funds so that you can still gamble for fun and on the other hand have some profits that can be secured or saved.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rank gambling addiction as 9. Anyone who has gotten hooked on it can attest that it is one of the most difficult addictions to break free from. Some years back, my gambling addiction was slots. I kept losing. Each time I lost, my consolation and motivation is the hope of a win in the next game but it didn't change. I remember deleting a lot of these gambling apps and closing my accounts on the gambling websites. Unfortunately, after some weeks, I'd go back, redownload the gambling apps, sign up on a new casinos website. I lost control of myself. One of the things that made it difficult quit it was, I was getting an inflows of crypto payments on an app I partnered with a friend to build. Users signed up and paid in crypto to gain access to its features.

After I figured this out, I took a bold step. I cut the funding, that is , I made the app and it's features free for the general public. In no time, I was getting little to no crypto from this app to fund my gambling addiction and it was a game changer. My addiction came under control and now I am free from it.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 16, 2023, 04:51:56 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on September 14, 2023, 06:59:20 PM

I've experienced big loss and I've made myself on the right track. However I wasn't able to keep myself away from the gambling habit for a longer time period. What makes me better than the past is the losing amount. Compared to the old days I've set my limits and never go beyond. This keeps my living undisturbed in all situations and I've shared my losing experience in a thread so that someone into hard addiction could get out of it.

We cannot eliminate our gambling habit because of course it will be difficult and take a long time, there are many ways to reduce it gradually and also control the game to make it better, for example as you said also where you set limits for gambling, for example time and budget limits. It is very important not to exceed the limit, in fact addiction can still be tolerated as long as it is controlled.

I also don't want to get rid of my gambling habit, but just change my way of thinking about gambling, because all this time I have been gambling focused on winning and beating the dealer, that is clearly the wrong mindset and I realize that, therefore experience always teaches me We have many things, we must gamble wisely and responsibly to avoid addiction.

It is at the moment when we decide to exceed our spending per day in the game that we cross the line which is called addiction. If we think about winning, then this is a direct path to losing. But naturally, the vast majority think about it and enter the game.

Watching professional players, I noticed that they have a fire inside that drives them to develop in order to know all the subtleties. I would even say they have an addiction on the edge, with which they know how to balance on a thin thread, but almost never fall.

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Quote from: piebeyb on September 16, 2023, 04:51:56 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on September 14, 2023, 06:59:20 PM

I've experienced big loss and I've made myself on the right track. However I wasn't able to keep myself away from the gambling habit for a longer time period. What makes me better than the past is the losing amount. Compared to the old days I've set my limits and never go beyond. This keeps my living undisturbed in all situations and I've shared my losing experience in a thread so that someone into hard addiction could get out of it.

We cannot eliminate our gambling habit because of course it will be difficult and take a long time, there are many ways to reduce it gradually and also control the game to make it better, for example as you said also where you set limits for gambling, for example time and budget limits. It is very important not to exceed the limit, in fact addiction can still be tolerated as long as it is controlled.

I also don't want to get rid of my gambling habit, but just change my way of thinking about gambling, because all this time I have been gambling focused on winning and beating the dealer, that is clearly the wrong mindset and I realize that, therefore experience always teaches me We have many things, we must gamble wisely and responsibly to avoid addiction.

Even though most people wont understand, your words hit me. Its hard to break a long-standing habit. However, gambling is riskier than business as usual. Being self-aware and setting time and money restrictions is good. Control and inability to resist desire are easily crossed.

Why not transform your love of gaming into something more predictable? For instance, practicing a skill or doing something you enjoy? While beating a dealer may provide you a short-term rush, continuous improvement in something you like may be the prize you didnt know you needed.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 16, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

Experience from pro gamblers will aides us in most sectors of gambling, more like a step to step. Making plans not to end up like other worse gamblers that have liquidated their accounts due to the significant losses they recorded in gambling. I'm always exploring more options because I have no excuse to settle for losses, bouncing back to the system witn appropriate strategy. Gambling is considered an easy activity for some of us and complicated for most of us. We only tends to be on the safer side if we apply an effective gambling strategy and know our risks management.

Yes. The only way not to fall into gambling addiction is through having discipline as a gambler, and by learning from the different experiences from those who have been gambling for quite long. Although gambling addiction can be a tough one, but if you know your limits and priorities in life, for sure you will never end up with deep gambling addiction that may eventually ruin your life. However, if you can seek medical attention like most of the gamblers do, the earlier the better. Gambling is fun and also profitable at some point, but if you come to cross the limits, gambling will definitely become your life’s destructor.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on September 14, 2023, 06:59:20 PM

I've experienced big loss and I've made myself on the right track. However I wasn't able to keep myself away from the gambling habit for a longer time period. What makes me better than the past is the losing amount. Compared to the old days I've set my limits and never go beyond. This keeps my living undisturbed in all situations and I've shared my losing experience in a thread so that someone into hard addiction could get out of it.

We cannot eliminate our gambling habit because of course it will be difficult and take a long time, there are many ways to reduce it gradually and also control the game to make it better, for example as you said also where you set limits for gambling, for example time and budget limits. It is very important not to exceed the limit, in fact addiction can still be tolerated as long as it is controlled.

I also don't want to get rid of my gambling habit, but just change my way of thinking about gambling, because all this time I have been gambling focused on winning and beating the dealer, that is clearly the wrong mindset and I realize that, therefore experience always teaches me We have many things, we must gamble wisely and responsibly to avoid addiction.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

Experience from pro gamblers will aides us in most sectors of gambling, more like a step to step. Making plans not to end up like other worse gamblers that have liquidated their accounts due to the significant losses they recorded in gambling. I'm always exploring more options because I have no excuse to settle for losses, bouncing back to the system witn appropriate strategy. Gambling is considered an easy activity for some of us and complicated for most of us. We only tends to be on the safer side if we apply an effective gambling strategy and know our risks management.

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Quote from: Solosanz on September 15, 2023, 10:24:06 AM

Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

Technically gambling is easy, you only need to make a deposit and click spin or place your bet in sportsbook, you're already a gambler.

But the problem will arise after that when they can't control themselves due to lose all of their money, only a strong people can survive in this stage. Some people will commit suicide, some people will lose everything and start from zero, some people will need to seek a doctor and get a rehabilitation.

With such an easy entry threshold, when everything is colorful and cheerful, at first glance it looks like a trap. Which will slam shut after making the first spin. After that, everything depends on your psychological stability, and if it is weak, then you are left alone with it. In addition, if the casino is not conscientious, various problems with withdrawal may arise, even if you are lucky and win jackpot. The key idea here is that you need to think about what consequences you might face before starting the game, and not after you have lost everything.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

Technically gambling is easy, you only need to make a deposit and click spin or place your bet in sportsbook, you're already a gambler.

But the problem will arise after that when they can't control themselves due to lose all of their money, only a strong people can survive in this stage. Some people will commit suicide, some people will lose everything and start from zero, some people will need to seek a doctor and get a rehabilitation.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 15, 2023, 09:51:03 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on September 14, 2023, 06:59:20 PM

I've experienced big loss and I've made myself on the right track. However I wasn't able to keep myself away from the gambling habit for a longer time period. What makes me better than the past is the losing amount. Compared to the old days I've set my limits and never go beyond. This keeps my living undisturbed in all situations and I've shared my losing experience in a thread so that someone into hard addiction could get out of it.

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

It is clear friends, how not while gambling is very involving mentally and also emotions in us so it is very true if we do not prepare anything in ourselves such as self-control, it is very likely that we will feel challenged and then we will continue to do things like that based on emotions. Well true, I also see some of them (beginners) who are like very enthusiastic about entering this gambling, maybe yes they think they will be able to get a lot of money there but in fact it only makes them suffer and get poorer.

So yes before we enter into gambling it would be nice for us to first see what risks are there, not just focus on the victory because behind a big win there will always be a big risk too. It's true that we must be very careful when gambling, don't let you be tempted by some of the lures that come that look like tantalizing but it's just a temptation. We must be strict with ourselves to be a responsible gambler and come only to seek pleasure not to win, then I think you will be fine there.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on September 14, 2023, 06:59:20 PM

I've experienced big loss and I've made myself on the right track. However I wasn't able to keep myself away from the gambling habit for a longer time period. What makes me better than the past is the losing amount. Compared to the old days I've set my limits and never go beyond. This keeps my living undisturbed in all situations and I've shared my losing experience in a thread so that someone into hard addiction could get out of it.

Gambling can be very challenging when we have not made the right decisions for ourselves. So many people especially the newbies may think that gambling is a very easy activity but never it's not so. One need to pass through some rough time and if we are not careful, we can lost ourselves in the act. Those who think gambling is very easy and cool should go in fully and see for themselves what it is really all about. We need to make plans as a gambler or we are going to get lost in the process.

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