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hero member
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November 29, 2017, 04:11:32 PM
#27
I've an other question:
is it possibile to have to differenent wallet/seed with ledger or trezor

For example, i have 2 wallet on electrum. Can i import them separately on my hw wallet in a way that if i have to recover it on electrum i can restore 2 wallet instead of one?

Thanks in advance!


Your seed never leaves your hardware wallet unless you export it. As far as I know, hardware wallets sweep the bitcoins which are on the addresses from the seed you enter. Both Ledger and Trezor support passphrases. A passphrase works like the 25th word of your seed. Without it, nobody can access your wallet (technically it is possible if such person has the rest of the seed but if you haven't sent bitcoins to such account, it will be empty). Passphrases are great in case your PIN is compromised.

i'm sorry, but in your post i can't find an answer for my question.
two electrum wallet, will stay separete on my hw wallet? This is what i need to know

Thanks again!
hero member
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November 29, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
#26
I've an other question:
is it possibile to have to differenent wallet/seed with ledger or trezor

For example, i have 2 wallet on electrum. Can i import them separately on my hw wallet in a way that if i have to recover it on electrum i can restore 2 wallet instead of one?

Thanks in advance!
legendary
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November 27, 2017, 04:50:00 PM
#25
Just buy both of them problem solved.
hero member
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November 27, 2017, 04:37:15 PM
#24
Not or. Both Smiley
Trezor for non-spending purposes, just to store safely (or a paper wallet, but when it comes about transfering, you just connect the trezor and send a transaction, but with a paper wallet it's more a hassle).
Ledger Nano S is for everyday purposes, sending receiving, and the Nano S supports more altcoins, also direct altcoin exchange via the EtherDelta, which is not an exchange but does the same, the main difference is that you don't have to send your coins to an exchange and have it (and risk it) on, but you just connect your Nano S and you can trade peer to peer.

Can you give more details about why you said ledger nano s is better for daily spending purposes? I knew it's very good for long term coin strorage as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just wanted to hear more about it. Is there something bad about ledger nano s?

i need these information too, and i'm asking becouse i'm try to understand which is better and i need more information is possible.
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
November 26, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
#23
I like the fact you can use many coins on ledger but then you need multiple devices if use more then 3 apps. I wasn't aware so very good to know!
No, you don't... you can add and remove apps at will... One device is enough to manage all the supported coins. I currently have 5 "apps" on my Ledger Nano S... Bitcoin, Bitcoin Gold, Litecoin, Dogecoin, Dash and if I want to go use something else (like Ethereum for instance), I simply uninstall one of the apps and install the app I need for the currency I want to use. Takes all of 30 seconds.

Seriously, if you need access to more than 4 or 5 currencies simultaneously with a hardware wallet... you're trading wrong and probably spending a ton on transaction fees Roll Eyes


Yeah, while those people are probably heavy altcoin traders, I wouldn't say they don't deserve to use the ledger. I'm hoping they can find a way around the restriction.
HCP
legendary
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November 25, 2017, 10:56:43 PM
#22
I like the fact you can use many coins on ledger but then you need multiple devices if use more then 3 apps. I wasn't aware so very good to know!
No, you don't... you can add and remove apps at will... One device is enough to manage all the supported coins. I currently have 5 "apps" on my Ledger Nano S... Bitcoin, Bitcoin Gold, Litecoin, Dogecoin, Dash and if I want to go use something else (like Ethereum for instance), I simply uninstall one of the apps and install the app I need for the currency I want to use. Takes all of 30 seconds.

Seriously, if you need access to more than 4 or 5 currencies simultaneously with a hardware wallet... you're trading wrong and probably spending a ton on transaction fees Roll Eyes
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Vires in Numeris
November 20, 2017, 03:20:05 PM
#21
... Ledger supports many altcoins but you can install only 3 coin apps at the same time. It's because of limited space on the secure element...
What apps do you have installed? Huh I can usually have 5 Apps installed... Currently (because I've been mucking around testing stuff) I have Bitcoin, Dash, Dogecoin, Ethereum and Litecoin... I did have Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Dogecoin and Litecoin installed...

Also, it really isn't THAT much of a bother to fire up the manager, uninstall an app and install the app you are missing... unless you are trying to use more than 5 currencies at once, multiple times a day Tongue
How did you manage to install 5 coins on your Nano S? I have Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Ethereum and that's all. Have you deleted the Fido 2FA app? I don't know if it's possible or not but I just can't imagine any other way to free up some space on the device...
But yes, it's not a big deal to change the Dogecoin app to Dash in 30 seconds, if those coins are needed
HCP
legendary
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November 20, 2017, 04:34:27 AM
#20
... Ledger supports many altcoins but you can install only 3 coin apps at the same time. It's because of limited space on the secure element...
What apps do you have installed? Huh I can usually have 5 Apps installed... Currently (because I've been mucking around testing stuff) I have Bitcoin, Dash, Dogecoin, Ethereum and Litecoin... I did have Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Dogecoin and Litecoin installed...

Also, it really isn't THAT much of a bother to fire up the manager, uninstall an app and install the app you are missing... unless you are trying to use more than 5 currencies at once, multiple times a day Tongue
legendary
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November 19, 2017, 08:25:12 PM
#19
Trezor has no security issues with latest firmware that seems to be an urban myth being passed around. You may as well accuse Nano S of having back doors built into the secure enclave chip they use and cannot open source because of non-disclosure agreements with their supplier. When you are using a hardware wallet the larger the screen the easier to use. That gives original Trezor an edge over Nano S just as Trezor T will be easier to use than the original. The Trezor GUI is also more user friendly than Ledger's.
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platform for everyday business
November 19, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
#18
Hey guys! I came to the point where I decided to invest in hardware wallet. My concern is - should I buy Ledger nano S which is the cheapest, or pre-order Trezor T - it's more expensive but well looks cool and it's the newest on the market. Could someone explain me differences (I heard about Trezor being not as secure as Ledger - will the issue continue with T model?) Thanks in advance guys!

Ledger nano S or Trezor T is both  a hardware wallet that where you can save all your bitcoin asset,they have a same purpose is for safe keeping.so i were you ,should pick a ledger nano S  hardware wallet because is so cheap and user friendly wallet,unlike Trezor T is so expensive as you said and have  an issue of security.
hero member
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November 19, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
#17
I have been using the trezor wallet for more than four months and i can really say that i have never had any problems with them, maybe it is because i dont use to hold much more bitcoins in there because i prefer to hold my money in cash instead of having it in altcoins (because always i am so tempted to dump it for other coins, and most times i lost money because of that)
But yes, the trezor is working so good at the moment, and there are not any issues with it, i have made more than three transactions during this week and all of them went through smoothly.
sr. member
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November 19, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
#16
Hey guys! I came to the point where I decided to invest in hardware wallet. My concern is - should I buy Ledger nano S which is the cheapest, or pre-order Trezor T - it's more expensive but well looks cool and it's the newest on the market. Could someone explain me differences (I heard about Trezor being not as secure as Ledger - will the issue continue with T model?) Thanks in advance guys!

It's your decision which hardware wallet will suit you better, both are great hardware devices.
Trezor T is only for pre-order if you happy waiting until January 2018 and you trust company that's ok. Personally, I will wait for Trezor T reviews first, before make order.
Nano S is already tested and very popular wallet. There is a lot of reviews online that will point out all Pros and Cons.
Nano S is 50% cheaper and can be on your desk in 3-5 working days. I will choose Ledger Nano S, better value for money and there is nothing wrong with it.
Trezor T have touch screen from what I see on short video, I don't know how strong will be when accidentally dropped on leave in pocket and sit, very little information about Trezor T - maybe is gorilla glass maybe not.
jr. member
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November 19, 2017, 03:50:51 PM
#15
I am not yet in the phase to buy a hardware wallet but when i think
 i would go for the Trezor. It is more expensive but it can also store normal passwords.


sr. member
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Veni, Vidi, Vici
November 19, 2017, 03:48:20 PM
#14
Two years ago maybe the decision would be in favor of Trezor; but nowadays, practically speaking, minor differences between them. If you are fan of a software wallet like as electrum then things would be easier.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
November 19, 2017, 03:38:32 PM
#13
What's your reason for getting one? If it's pure storage with no plans to move then you may as well go for a paper wallet. It's free and impregnable as long as it's made right.
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November 19, 2017, 03:09:47 PM
#12
I'm using Ledger Nano S right now and I'm not satisfied. The build quality is terrible. The device scratched easily even though it was laying on my desk all the time. I decided to order Trezor T mostly because:
- I use only Ethereum, Bitcoin and its hardforks,
- Touchscreen - faster pin/passphrase typing, easier to view destination address
- MicroSD support, Ledger runs out of space after installing only 3 apps! With MicroSD you will be able to store your data which will be encrypted.
newbie
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November 19, 2017, 02:50:44 PM
#11
I like Trezor more
legendary
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November 19, 2017, 02:17:44 PM
#10
Trezor is more intuitive to use than Nano S and has a better user manual. Go ahead and get a first generation Trezor is my recommendation. When the new Trezor T is out you can always buy one, restore your seed to the Trezor T and use it as a spare, or your main hardware wallet.

I have all the hardware wallets (I seem to collect them:) and Trezor is my favorite. It is more straightforward to use than the Nano S and has the larger screen. I have the Trezor T on order and look forward to using it. It seems to be a race on which hardware wallet will support Monero first. I have a KeepKey that sits on a shelf unused, the same with Digital Bitbox.
sr. member
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November 19, 2017, 02:17:38 PM
#9
Not or. Both Smiley
Trezor for non-spending purposes, just to store safely (or a paper wallet, but when it comes about transfering, you just connect the trezor and send a transaction, but with a paper wallet it's more a hassle).
Ledger Nano S is for everyday purposes, sending receiving, and the Nano S supports more altcoins, also direct altcoin exchange via the EtherDelta, which is not an exchange but does the same, the main difference is that you don't have to send your coins to an exchange and have it (and risk it) on, but you just connect your Nano S and you can trade peer to peer.

Can you give more details about why you said ledger nano s is better for daily spending purposes? I knew it's very good for long term coin strorage as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just wanted to hear more about it. Is there something bad about ledger nano s?
hero member
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November 19, 2017, 02:13:05 PM
#8
if you want to keep holding your bitcoins for a long period of time, then better to buy the trezor one, it is one of the best wallets, i mean, offline wallets that is working at the moment.
The ledger nano is very good too, only that it works better if you want to keep a lot of altcoins in there, specially the ERC20 tokens. And the price of both wallets is very similiar, so make your own research about that and buy the one that you really want too.
The trezor is very handsome too, i would pick that one, no matter what.
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