Topic: Let us devise a Sensible solution to Copy and Paste situation. - page 3. (Read 1161 times)

I do not believe my answer/reply was nonsense at all. It is exactly what needs to be done. Users don't need coddled. They know exactly what they are doing.

I'm not trying to be difficult for you, I'm voicing my opinion like you have done over 12000 times since becoming a member here.

Why do you want to save these people is the better question? Bitcointalk as a forum is losing nothing by losing these offenders. If anything the few hundred that are banned are serving as the lesson for those considering copy/paste activities.

Sorry but you do not get to dictate the free expression of ideas/ideals which contradict your own. If you are interested in a sanitized echo chamber make use of the self-moderated thread. Yes you a very interested in coming up with a new idea to help those you feel made a mistake, and there is nothing wrong with that.

You should expect that every time you have an idea for this, people who are fed up with these shitposting thieves trying to turn this forum into their workplace will express their opposition.

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The forum itself does need some changes, assisting plagiarists is far down the list IMO. I wouldn't be opposed to some (So far 1 maybe 2) of these copypasters receiving a second chance. Really though, it's none of the people who's threads you've posted in , someone usually finds many other plagiarized posts. Those members are not victims they are a problem, and keeping them here promotes this problem.

The problems I have with your fix are that you are only assisting Hodlers and the wealthy with the rates you set up. If someone could convince the Admins of their true ignorance to the fact, and fitting with theymos's own views on the matter - "Not doing so for financial gain" - I would give them a chance with no signature for 18 months, No [ANN] threads for ICO's or bounties or businesses.

These members would also be placed on a review list, so that there posts are scrutinized for further wrongdoing.

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Isn't this contradiction?

Maybe just to permaban signature without paying part and user can use forum to post.

Yahoo disagreed with your idea and this thread because they think system is good. I don't see this as a nonsense, rather meaningful and sensible post of valuable member of this community.

What is this nonsense??

I said reply if you have a better idea than the current system.

If you do not want to change how it is now then don't reply here I am asking for ideas to improve the situation.

Yeah I have an army of accounts I want to buy back for 0.5 BTC with no sigs allowed for a year. Can you refrain from asking me stupid questions unless you have some evidence I have any alts. What if I asked you do you take back handers for letting people on the sig campaigns you manage? because I have been told you do?  Now be positive make alternative good suggestions or just go to your own thread.

If you have no alternatives and dont want change from how it is dont post.

The same goes for Thepharmacist - Who I consider here to be contradicting some of his previous comments on copy and paste threads by saying they are all akin to bags of shit that are on fire. I mean why would you feel sympathy for a burning back of shit and recognise they made some good posts?  .

Now both do not post again unless

1 you have a good alternative or want to discuss this one

If you have no interest in change at all from insta perm ban for all that is fine but no need to post here.


WOW 20 merits given out by Tman - you must never want to see anyone that has ever copy and pasted get a second chance? why not?

I mean I don't wish to get into a huge discussion about anything else other than Improving the situation but who feels strongly enough to give such support to NEVER EVER letting copy any pasters having a second chance under any conditions at all. 
Do you really mean that? Seems harsh??

We can't fix lazy uses stupidity, everyone is the master of his own destiny.

Someone is off on an island somewhere, but it isn't you.

If I wake up one morning and find a flaming bag of shit on my porch, I'm not going to bring it inside and try to nurse it back to health.  That doesn't even make sense, right?  Well, that's exactly what I think of OP's idea.  The plagiarists are the flaming bags of shit, and they need to get the fuck off the porch.  Mods have been damn good with the fire extinguisher and porch-cleaning, as have been the members reporting the plagiarism.  No sympathy should be expected or given to these people, no second chances, no nothing--just a ban, and as I've written in recent threads, they should be given one example of something they've plagiarized in the ban PM and that's it. 

The ban appeal threads are getting monotonous, and these people are not the folks most of us want around bitcointalk.  There's no complicated solution necessary for these idiots' actions.  Ban.  Boom.  Gone.

They could probably buy dozens of high-rank accounts for 0.5 BTC. Or a few hundred coppers.

Doesn't make sense.

Wouldn't the sensible solution be to NOT COPY AND PASTE? I've said it a million times, these cheaters do not deserve another chance. They know they are doing wrong when they do it. I'm sure they have been educated about some rules of the forum prior to opening accounts here to earn for their campaigns. They also have access to the meta area where hundreds of posts weekly are able to be seen and read that deal with accounts being banned due to copy/paste.

Do you have an army of banned accounts or something? You seem awfully interested in bringing banned accounts back. I'm trying to stay objective to your opinions but this idea seems a bit nuts to me.

Let's see what everyone else thinks though. Maybe I'm off on an island alone here

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN SUGGESTIONS FOR A BETTER SYSTEM THAN WE HAVE NOW

IF YOU SIMPLY WANT TO KEEP IT AS IT IS THEN DO NOT POST AND CLUTTER THE IDEAS OF PEOPLE WHO MAY WISH TO CONSTRUCT A BETTER SYSTEM



Now that I know hillarious and co can reinstate banned people we could probably do something like this simple and fast solution


1. anyone wants to appeal after copy and paste of serious nature found in their posts (not film quotes for humour, memes, news posted on correct project)
Needs to pay 0.5 BTC fine and have a 6months - 1yr month sig ban automatically..

2. 1 btc held with escrows(mods). Thread dedicated to it with user account details with start of ban, end ban and link to account

3.  If caught using sig  during sig ban time then instant perm ban and loss of all funds. Funds split between finder of copy and paste, mod (escrow) , and person discovering sig usage during sig ban time. (Proof of sig use must be provided for public to see and mod should witness really)

4. Those abiding by sig ban will get back 0.5 btc at end of sig ban term and be allowed their sigs back but zero tolerance copy and paste after point of appeal.

this could be run on a thread in reputation really....copy and pasters named and shamed post.

Sticky put here in meta or could just have link in the ban to the copy and pasters thread where it all takes place.


I'm not a game theory expert so perhaps lots of holes in this.

I had thought up a more elaborate plan with full history reviews but it is a huge task and I guess great poster is quite subject and matching criteria on huge histories on every posts is impossible.

I mean I expect a lot of copy and pasters will not go for this because there is little point for them ...sig bans, fines and instant bans if they do it again. Most will not appeal.

This is goes for every copy and paster too so no favouritism. Except perhaps pure crazy copy and paste pure ico sig spammers ...perhaps they could be just denied access to the discipline program.  


Of course many will have better systems but this could instantly cut out a lot of time and energy and reward reporters for locating, mods for reviewing and escrowing and other reporters spotting sig use during ban time.

Hillarious could take care of it all if he can ban and unban.. seems theymos will not have to review or spend time coding anything.

For alternative systems that improve on what we have now just post below and  perhaps we can together reach a good solution.