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Topic: Let's help everyone to get merit! (Read 644 times)

full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 100
April 07, 2018, 02:35:16 PM
#55
Get a merit from someone very difficult. You should not just write an excellent and useful post, but your post should really please a person. And then he will probably share with you.
jr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 4
April 07, 2018, 01:34:44 PM
#54
There are many threads regarding merits on the forum already, but few of them talk about which I consider being the most important point: Do not get obsessed with merits.
For you can write a great thread and it can be lost in between all the topics in here. There are too many people here in the forum, and new threads are wroten each minute. That's because the best move is to relax, to do your best and to not wait for merits everytime you think you have written a great text 'cause maybe it isn't regarded as you hope and you can feel frustrated.
Another advice should be: choose well where to post. If you are always posting in the altcoin section it is going to be difficult to earn merits. I think the best way is to post in many sections, always by reading before posting about the topic in discussion. I think the "press" one is a really good section to post because there is always hot discussion about whatś going on with the crypto world on the press.
Inform yourself. Of course. Before even writing a single word, learn about, read a lot, and think about what is your own opinion, take a minute to build an idea, reflex about the topic... For good topics need a previous meditation.
The last advice: never beg for merits. We all are tired of people begging for merits on the Newbie and the Meta board. Begging is not the way, you all should learn it as soon as possible, for the only think you are going to achieve by begging is to be put on "ignored" by many users.

So, in short, those are my bits of advice. I have many more, but all of them has been told here, so read before posting, read every answer. Read, read, read...

Thank you for such a detailed and full answer is not the question that I think many are interested in. After reading you to me it became clearer how to write and what thoughts to present in the forum bitcointalc
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
April 07, 2018, 05:49:49 AM
#53
The topic is likely announcement on new channel to make deals on merit exchanges.
Very creative initatiative, but I guess it won't work.
Good luck.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
April 07, 2018, 05:34:21 AM
#52
Hi, people. Lets discuss different ways of gettitting merit and give constructive and creative tips.
1. I know that we should write quality posts for getting merit. So I offer to tell about it in that topic. Which post is worthy of reward? Please write here different tips for improvement our messages.
What it have to consist of? Which words posts should include?
2. I've created Telegram channel for discussion different questions about BT forum. You can ask me about it PM.

Lets help everyone and make Bitcointalk great again!)

Nice initiative to help new members to get merits. One thing you might reconsider is talking about merits in telegram channel, better do it in the forum itself to bring transparency.
member
Activity: 166
Merit: 11
April 03, 2018, 12:53:23 AM
#51
Hi, people. Lets discuss different ways of gettitting merit and give constructive and creative tips.
1. I know that we should write quality posts for getting merit. So I offer to tell about it in that topic. Which post is worthy of reward? Please write here different tips for improvement our messages.
What it have to consist of? Which words posts should include?
2. I've created Telegram channel for discussion different questions about BT forum. You can ask me about it PM.

Lets help everyone and make Bitcointalk great again!)

As much as I support the idea, it is actually bad because we’ll tend to encourage those users who just post nonesense and are not relevant at all. That is the purpose of merits, I believe and that is to filter those users who just post because it is require in the bounty programs that they belong to. So, let’s just leave it to the people if they find a post worthy of merits.
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 268
April 02, 2018, 01:16:43 PM
#50
What is quality post ? Many Newbies and Jr. members are struggling to get merit. Its always the same story that the posts is not constructive or the quality is not good. How does a person decide which post is quality and deserved merit ?
A quality post is a post which adds a value to the topic being discussed in a particular thread. A post which shed a light on unexplored options of topic are good quality posts. Many posts which you could see have one word or oneliner responses or for that matter many member posting redundant reply are somewhat poor quality posts(AKA spam/garbage-post).
Thus look at some good posts which received merits from other. When you get merit from other try to appreciate the gesture by giving merit to other good poster.
At the same time avoid being reciprocal that if someone send you merit for a good post then you are not obliged to give back a merit to sender. However you find the sender has some good post which should get merit then send some of your merit.  After all merit is for sharing.
member
Activity: 244
Merit: 17
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April 02, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
#49
Hi, Guys, hope you are good! Could anyone please help me to know about referal program, using links? where to do posts, links? Does anyone has data base with blogers to posting referal links for the 5% of attracted investments?

Why have you posted this in a thread about merit. You will get better replies if you stay on topic, and post on the correct boards.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
April 02, 2018, 12:14:16 PM
#48
Hi, Guys, hope you are good! Could anyone please help me to know about referal program, using links? where to do posts, links? Does anyone has data base with blogers to posting referal links for the 5% of attracted investments?
newbie
Activity: 90
Merit: 0
April 01, 2018, 03:59:53 AM
#47
This merriting system is so very hard to achieve even you wrote a very quality post about the treand in each forum i really worried about it
newbie
Activity: 146
Merit: 0
April 01, 2018, 03:04:43 AM
#46
It's very difficult and very bad to get the advantages. I hate this rule. I think it can only be obtained by posting high-quality articles.
jr. member
Activity: 140
Merit: 1
April 01, 2018, 01:03:08 AM
#45
Just don't be worry about merit and you should do constructive post approximately for 1 month then submit all your posts to a sMerit post review thread.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
April 01, 2018, 12:02:34 AM
#44
I'm not too worried about merit. It'll come in time with posts that contribute something to the community. Thinking of merits every time you post isn't a mindset that will actually bring you a return on your time.

Just relax and enjoy the conversation! If you're helpful and contribute something of worth, people will notice. Smiley
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 40
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March 31, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
#43
The only thing that user said was "Wow, good post. I try not to worry about merit, and hope it will come.", which is the correct attitude to put towards it. Worry about being a contributing member of the community and about becoming more knowledgeable or helpful. There are the right things to be concerned about, and you are trying to steer this member and anyone else that reads your post in the wrong direction.
If you check his merit earned (0) and posting(88) history (mostly at alternative cryptocurrencies) you clearly can see that he do not have the right mindset of contributing to the community becoming more knowledgeable or helpful. If that is what he is doing now and he still keep doing it, without worrying about his posting quality do you think he will earn any merit as its clearly seen now he is not getting any.

Its good not to be obsess with merit but it also not good not to worry about your posting quality either, I am trying to talk him to at least get his posting quality up a bit, be constructive and helpful, I am not telling him to be obsess with merit and open lots of topic discussing about merit only
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 40
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March 31, 2018, 06:48:05 PM
#42
I have explain to you that I am not suggesting that to him, why would you still saying that I am suggesting that when its clearly I am explaining to him that there is people who earn alot of Merit just being not obsess with merit and they gets the merit in due time, but they are BTCguru and sometime I find they copy alot from somewhere.

My sentence clearly just an exclusion of those who will get merit in due time with their posting, I am not suggesting him to do that

If copying from wikipedia is bannable you go and find them, because I am not doing that and I myself don't think it is morally ok to do, even if I do I make sure I do credit the source
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
March 31, 2018, 10:10:17 AM
#41
I am specifically talking to the guy addressing his situation, I am not responding to the OP

I'll assume that is your way of conceding the fact that you cannot prove this and that it's nonsense.

You cannot just keep avoiding questions that are convenient for you. I'm aware who you responded to, because you quoted them and I'm not that clueless. Your response was still within this thread, and regardless of who you were addressing you were still talking baseless nonsense. This does not change anything that has been said.

The only thing that user said was "Wow, good post. I try not to worry about merit, and hope it will come.", which is the correct attitude to put towards it. Worry about being a contributing member of the community and about becoming more knowledgeable or helpful. There are the right things to be concerned about, and you are trying to steer this member and anyone else that reads your post in the wrong direction.
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 40
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March 31, 2018, 09:54:46 AM
#40
That is what people are doing

Prove it.

Else, stop saying it. // Users that do this get banned, therefore this is not what people are doing to any successful degree.

why am I at fault here for describing it?

The discussion is called "Let's help everyone to get merit!", you suggested multiple bannable offenses as some of the only ways to achieve merit, and almost nothing else. All I was attempting to do was understand your statement better and see where you were coming from. You keep trying to backpedal away from your statement, instead of reinforcing it with the improvements and clarifications we could make together. Nobody is putting you at fault, but you continue to be defensive and ask strange questions.



I am specifically talking to the guy addressing his situation, I am not responding to the OP
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
March 31, 2018, 09:41:29 AM
#39
That is what people are doing

Prove it.

Else, stop saying it. // Users that do this get banned, therefore this is not what people are doing to any successful degree.

why am I at fault here for describing it?

The discussion is called "Let's help everyone to get merit!", you suggested multiple bannable offenses as some of the only ways to achieve merit, and almost nothing else. All I was attempting to do was understand your statement better and see where you were coming from. You keep trying to backpedal away from your statement, instead of reinforcing it with the improvements and clarifications we could make together. Nobody is putting you at fault, but you continue to be defensive and ask strange questions.

member
Activity: 238
Merit: 40
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March 31, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
#38
Your questions are annoying, because they don't get us anywhere.

Yes, in a thread about ways to earn merit you suggested that a reliable way to achieve merit was through copying from wikipedia; you failed to say anything about sourcing it, or passing it off as your own. This would imply there is nothing else to do, other than copy it from wikipedia. If you omit this, then it is plagiarism and you have said nothing about sourcing or giving credit to the original author. If you're now saying this, then it sounds like we agree and there's no reason to carry on as if we do not.

Again, I am attempting to improve your statements, premises and conclusions so that they are more beneficial to the newbies seeking this information and truthful to reality.
That is what people are doing why am I at fault here for describing it?
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
March 31, 2018, 09:24:16 AM
#37
copying doesn't amount to plagiarism when you are not passing it off as your own

That's literally exactly what I said.

did I say anything about copying from wikipedia and passing it off as his own
did I say that he should do that ?

Your questions are annoying, because they don't get us anywhere.

Yes, in a thread about ways to earn merit you suggested that a reliable way to achieve merit was through copying from wikipedia; you failed to say anything about sourcing it, or passing it off as your own. This would imply there is nothing else to do, other than copy it from wikipedia. If you omit this, then it is plagiarism and you have said nothing about sourcing or giving credit to the original author. If you're now saying this, then it sounds like we agree and there's no reason to carry on as if we do not.

Again, I am attempting to improve your statements, premises and conclusions so that they are more beneficial to the newbies seeking this information and truthful to reality.


that is what people here doing and that what earn them Merit as they go along participating in the discussion, whether or not the forum accept it thats for the forum to catch them

Who is doing this? Point them out.

There are two options here, either you are aware of active specific instances of abuse and are quietly watching it happen making you complicit, or you are unaware of any active specific instance of abuse making your claim baseless. Either way, it doesn't look good for you, but I am pretty curious; which is it? You cannot just claim that this is what people are doing if you have no proof, so let's see it. If you can point these people out they will be banned. The forum doesn't accept it, and you're well aware of that at this point. In a thread where the discussion is about ways for lower ranking members to earn merit, why would you even suggest this as a feasible strategy without overtly warning against it?

hold your horse there accusing me this and that without understanding what I am saying and then create your own version of my intent

Your sentences are hard to follow. I'm doing my best to understand what you have said, clarify it, improve upon it and make it a more laudable response to the original question.
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 40
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March 31, 2018, 08:49:22 AM
#36
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copying doesn't amount to plagiarism when you are not passing it off as your own, did I say anything about copying from wikipedia and passing it off as his own, and did I say that he should do that ? I said that is what people here doing and that what earn them Merit as they go along participating in the discussion, whether or not they are plagiarizing and whether or not the forum accept it thats for the forum to decide and catch them if it unacceptable, and I am not suggesting to him that he do that, I am just saying what is happening here, hold your horse there accusing me this and that without understanding what I am saying and then create your own version of my intent
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