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legendary
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December 31, 2016, 12:18:04 PM
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Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

Skill and chance.

I have more chance than skill (lol)
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December 31, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
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~snip~
there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

So you created new endless discussion?  Grin

Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is.

IMO poker is game of skill and knowledge to read your opponents behavior and emotions. The better you can read those, the better your poker game will be and higher chance to win. And there are lots of books written about poker from expert players.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.
My nickname there is Underworld.

betcoin.ag has lots of scam accusation and it is highly red trusted.
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December 31, 2016, 09:49:03 AM
#12
i want to ask to op
is experience play in betcoin.ag
in there support play , player vs player or not, this mean tournamen player, not player vs machine
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December 31, 2016, 09:27:05 AM
#11

i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.

I checked out the article about the face to face poker. That was pretty nice. It adds a new dimension to playing poker. I am always biased towards live games.

About the issue of whether or not poker is a game of skill. I think that some are, like TH. There is long term statistical analysis supporting the skill element.
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December 31, 2016, 09:15:41 AM
#10

i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.

i am also a fan of poker playing it face to face and what you are suggesting is still not face to face! and i don't see much point in it either because you are still not controlling the cards in your hand, and the system is assigning them to you.
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December 31, 2016, 09:03:24 AM
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i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.

They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.
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December 31, 2016, 08:46:01 AM
#8
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

this is one of those questions that people are never going to come to a conclusion on. i however believe it is so simple, it is a combination of both and the result is only depending on the skills. you have to be lucky to get a good card but it is your skills in the end that is going to save you.

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For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

to be honest i have tried many online poker games, but i always end up disliking all of them.
i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.
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December 31, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
#7
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.


I believe poker game is a skill based games since we need to used our brains and talents for us to win on our opponents and luck is just a totally ot little percentage for gamblers to win, abd come to think for it, do you think unskillfull player can win eventhough they doesn't know how to play well in poker and realy only for their luck? Well no surely since they will be surely be swiped out by those veteran players.

You dont have to be highly skilled at poker, you just need to be better than the other players in that game on that day + ahead of the rake charges.  People use their brains in some games like blackjack but with blackjack there in no way to gain an edge only minimise long term losses by playing optimum.
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December 31, 2016, 08:07:32 AM
#6
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.


I believe poker game is a skill based games since we need to used our brains and talents for us to win on our opponents and luck is just a totally ot little percentage for gamblers to win, abd come to think for it, do you think unskillfull player can win eventhough they doesn't know how to play well in poker and realy only for their luck? Well no surely since they will be surely be swiped out by those veteran players.
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December 31, 2016, 08:00:41 AM
#5
With my experience in poker i can say that poker is a game of skills, why? because even a bad card can win aslong as you have the guts to do bluffs and you're timing is right. I often watch poker live and in my observation those who are skilled always gets to the final table.

I have found i can play in some soft games and the cards wont even matter due to timing bluffs etc.  Light well timed 3bets and squeeze plays can be good enough in some games alone to be +ev.
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December 31, 2016, 07:49:39 AM
#4
With my experience in poker i can say that poker is a game of skills, why? because even a bad card can win aslong as you have the guts to do bluffs and you're timing is right. I often watch poker live and in my observation those who are skilled always gets to the final table.
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December 31, 2016, 07:29:34 AM
#3
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

We can tell objectively its a game of skill by looking at the good players long term winnings history.  It would be mathmatically impossible for good players to just be lucky over a long run. 

We cant trust court judgements on many things really.  Short term there is luck involved.
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December 31, 2016, 06:56:03 AM
#2
At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).

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December 31, 2016, 06:02:20 AM
#1
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.
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