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February 05, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
#54
Poker is a game of chance and skill. It's a game where you can have some strategy but in the end it's up to chance because you don't know what cards your opponent has. If you fold every hand then you didn't really gamble but if you don't fold very often you're a high risk gambler. If you sick at poker you could still come out on top as long as you fold whenever you have a crappy hand!


Yes it is a combination of luck and skill it depends also on how you are going to read your opponents move. Online poker is harder to play because you can't see the physical reaction of their faces unlike if you will play poker on a real casino you can have that advantage. But as of now I do prefer to play real poker not online.

i don't agree that in the end it would still be up to chance. what separates poker from other gambling games is that the result depends more on how a player plays his cards whether they're good or not. Experienced poker players know how to intimidate their opponents so that even if they have ugly hands, they can still win a round. it's not about how lucky you can be with the cards you draw because even if you have a good card you can still lose if you don't know how to play your opponents.
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February 04, 2017, 06:04:25 PM
#53
If no one answered your question, nobody is playing at betcon.ag, obviously?

If you look at the low betcoin.ag traffic with 20 players in average (micro stakes), your change to meet someone here is very low (except shills).

In addition, if someone like to play Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments, he better play directly on WPN skins with a huge cash game and Sit & Go traffic included.  Wink

I do not believe that nobody from here plays at betcoin.ag. At this moment 41 players sits on 10 cash tables, and more then 2000 players are playing tournaments.
WPN is something I hear for the first time, can you tell more about it, do they accept bitcoins?
At the moment I play poker just on betcoin.ag, I use to play on 888 but after first deposit I didn`t go there anymore, and even they have awesome promotions, bonuses and other things I wish to play just with bitcoins. Huge cash games are for rich people, I don`t think I`m rich, for me this micro stakes are good.
The Winning Poker Tournament has in average 450 tournament players, and if betcoin.ag has at the moment more than 2000 players, this would mean that betcoin.ag has a 4 times higher tournament player traffic ->  Wow

Curious you never heard about the WPN, while betcoin.ag is connected to their MTTs. Yes, there are some skins who accept Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals.

A huge cash game trafic like on WPN does not necessarily mean huge buy ins and if you are a winning player, then you do not need to be rich to play there.
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February 04, 2017, 04:06:21 AM
#52
Poker is a game of chance and skill. It's a game where you can have some strategy but in the end it's up to chance because you don't know what cards your opponent has. If you fold every hand then you didn't really gamble but if you don't fold very often you're a high risk gambler. If you sick at poker you could still come out on top as long as you fold whenever you have a crappy hand!

Yes it is a combination of luck and skill it depends also on how you are going to read your opponents move. Online poker is harder to play because you can't see the physical reaction of their faces unlike if you will play poker on a real casino you can have that advantage. But as of now I do prefer to play real poker not online.
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February 04, 2017, 03:54:22 AM
#51
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.
Well for me it is a game of skill specially if you are playing in real life I mean if you are facing other player face to face,
but if you are just playing in the website's then I like to consider it as game of chance cause you can't even see what they might do or read if they are just bluffing.
I agree that there is much more information which can be used to check if the opponent is bluffing or if he has the nuts but even online there are a few tells through which you can figure out how the player is and if he's bluffing. The way he played pre flop, on flop, turn and river will help you decide to call in the end or not. Other thing that might help is the time he takes too call, although a little unreliable, it can be a tool in crucial situations. Should also not disregard the fact that you have all details about the opponent in hand history, so that you can look through from time to time just to know how he played the previous hands and feet into on him. Beating people in online poker is a skill in itself. Lost of the people still do rely on luck but if you want to succeed, you have to have the skill coz you cannot get good cards all the time.

Agreed. So you must play or watch the hands of your opponent in a online poker games and try to look if you can establish a pattern.
I had one opponent I had that I've pick a pattern. He always double his bet on every street.
Another is betting small on 3rd and 4th street, and if they make a small bet on the river, they have it.!!!
If they overbet the river, they are often bluffing, trying to scare you into folding.
This is just an observation I got my playing online poker.
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February 03, 2017, 09:47:16 PM
#50
Poker is a game of chance and skill. It's a game where you can have some strategy but in the end it's up to chance because you don't know what cards your opponent has. If you fold every hand then you didn't really gamble but if you don't fold very often you're a high risk gambler. If you sick at poker you could still come out on top as long as you fold whenever you have a crappy hand!
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February 03, 2017, 09:45:03 PM
#49
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.
Well for me it is a game of skill specially if you are playing in real life I mean if you are facing other player face to face,
but if you are just playing in the website's then I like to consider it as game of chance cause you can't even see what they might do or read if they are just bluffing.
I agree that there is much more information which can be used to check if the opponent is bluffing or if he has the nuts but even online there are a few tells through which you can figure out how the player is and if he's bluffing. The way he played pre flop, on flop, turn and river will help you decide to call in the end or not. Other thing that might help is the time he takes too call, although a little unreliable, it can be a tool in crucial situations. Should also not disregard the fact that you have all details about the opponent in hand history, so that you can look through from time to time just to know how he played the previous hands and feet into on him. Beating people in online poker is a skill in itself. Lost of the people still do rely on luck but if you want to succeed, you have to have the skill coz you cannot get good cards all the time.
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February 03, 2017, 09:30:21 PM
#48
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.
Well for me it is a game of skill specially if you are playing in real life I mean if you are facing other player face to face,
but if you are just playing in the website's then I like to consider it as game of chance cause you can't even see what they might do or read if they are just bluffing.
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February 03, 2017, 09:56:35 AM
#47
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.
As far as I know, a  lot of governments have ruled poker as a game of skill. There are a few developing countries as well that have ruled it as a game of skill. With respect to the no of books I've read about poker, I can safely say that it is largely based on skill. You can just check the no of poker pros that win major tournaments and the no of newbies who have never played tournaments before have won. The chances of a newbie to win a major tournament is almost 0.
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February 03, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
#46
If no one answered your question, nobody is playing at betcon.ag, obviously?

If you look at the low betcoin.ag traffic with 20 players in average (micro stakes), your change to meet someone here is very low (except shills).

In addition, if someone like to play Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments, he better play directly on WPN skins with a huge cash game and Sit & Go traffic included.  Wink

I do not believe that nobody from here plays at betcoin.ag. At this moment 41 players sits on 10 cash tables, and more then 2000 players are playing tournaments.
WPN is something I hear for the first time, can you tell more about it, do they accept bitcoins?
At the moment I play poker just on betcoin.ag, I use to play on 888 but after first deposit I didn`t go there anymore, and even they have awesome promotions, bonuses and other things I wish to play just with bitcoins. Huge cash games are for rich people, I don`t think I`m rich, for me this micro stakes are good.

I might believe that there are no active poker players here at betcoin. Even their signature campaign participants I doubt are active there. Not have a solid basis here but it's really unusual that if we have some active poker player here at that platform, we might see some post about it even for a few but it hasn't. Maybe a single or couple post I missed in the past but it can't locate right now.

I might wrong too since Im basing only at the current behaviour of topics discussed here in Gambling Section.
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February 03, 2017, 09:12:09 AM
#45
If no one answered your question, nobody is playing at betcon.ag, obviously?

If you look at the low betcoin.ag traffic with 20 players in average (micro stakes), your change to meet someone here is very low (except shills).

In addition, if someone like to play Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments, he better play directly on WPN skins with a huge cash game and Sit & Go traffic included.  Wink

I do not believe that nobody from here plays at betcoin.ag. At this moment 41 players sits on 10 cash tables, and more then 2000 players are playing tournaments.
WPN is something I hear for the first time, can you tell more about it, do they accept bitcoins?
At the moment I play poker just on betcoin.ag, I use to play on 888 but after first deposit I didn`t go there anymore, and even they have awesome promotions, bonuses and other things I wish to play just with bitcoins. Huge cash games are for rich people, I don`t think I`m rich, for me this micro stakes are good.
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January 29, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
#44
Nobody answered on my question, who play poker and who is active poker player here? Except comments discussion about is it poker luck or skill based game you didn`t give me the answer I wanted.
Last time I passed Betcoin Daily Coin Satellite - Step 1/3 and 2/3 but like always in step 3/3 I lose, looks like after first two steps I lose concentration. I have new ticket for step 1/3 so I will try again tomorrow.
Tonight is 250 GTD Weekly THANK YOU Freeroll, who will play this very nice tournament? Prizes are good, it`s nice cause there is never more then 15 players, no re-buys, poker for skilled players in my opinion. Until now I had second places, third places and above. Tonight I have some plans but if not this night then next sunday I will try to take first place. Good luck to all poker players!
If no one answered your question, nobody is playing at betcon.ag, obviously?

If you look at the low betcoin.ag traffic with 20 players in average (micro stakes), your change to meet someone here is very low (except shills).

In addition, if someone like to play Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments, he better play directly on WPN skins with a huge cash game and Sit & Go traffic included.  Wink
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January 29, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
#43
It depends on you when I first started playing poker I thought it would be all luck and just play blindly, but later I started adding numbers, making strategies. I think you should make some good strategies and stick to them, you are trying to do a lot and vary a lot. One important thing is just keep your mind set and trust your cards. Wish you all the very best and hopefully you win tonight.

Honestly I have obeserve how poker is played, and I observed there are phases where the game relies on strategy and pure luck.  Like when u have to draw a card to strengthen your hand, this phase is pure luck,  and when you bluff, call a clock, and other strategies, this is the phase where you use skills or strategy.  But I guess at the end it is the luck that dictates the game.
Luck and skills do really be needed on playing poker because if you lose one of those thing for sure you will lose a particular game.I agree on what you have said when you are already drawing the card it does really need luck to draw the best card.Skills would be next on how you manage your cards.
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January 29, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
#42
It depends on you when I first started playing poker I thought it would be all luck and just play blindly, but later I started adding numbers, making strategies. I think you should make some good strategies and stick to them, you are trying to do a lot and vary a lot. One important thing is just keep your mind set and trust your cards. Wish you all the very best and hopefully you win tonight.

Honestly I have obeserve how poker is played, and I observed there are phases where the game relies on strategy and pure luck.  Like when u have to draw a card to strengthen your hand, this phase is pure luck,  and when you bluff, call a clock, and other strategies, this is the phase where you use skills or strategy.  But I guess at the end it is the luck that dictates the game.
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January 29, 2017, 07:28:48 AM
#41
Is poker a game of skill, or a game of chance? Many times asked question, no one can agree on what a game of poker is. There is studies and court decisions regarding the skill / chance debate, there is couple endless threads on this forum too. But I don't wish to open that discussion again.

For beginning I wish to ask where are you playing, and can we meet on some site?
I like to play on betcoin.ag, cash game on tables 0.05/0.1 and 0.1/0.25 mbtc. Tournaments are also something I like to play, but just when I have time to sit few hours freely, what is rarely in past few weeks.

My nickname there is Underworld.

I used to play at betcoin.ag as well, but I stopped playing for a while.
I tried a few cash tables, but I prefer tournaments. It's easier to control your investment, and although it's harder I found it worked best for me, in relation to the risk/reward ratio. Maybe I will try it again some day.
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January 29, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
#40
It depends on you when I first started playing poker I thought it would be all luck and just play blindly, but later I started adding numbers, making strategies. I think you should make some good strategies and stick to them, you are trying to do a lot and vary a lot. One important thing is just keep your mind set and trust your cards. Wish you all the very best and hopefully you win tonight.
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January 29, 2017, 07:18:24 AM
#39
Nobody answered on my question, who play poker and who is active poker player here? Except comments discussion about is it poker luck or skill based game you didn`t give me the answer I wanted.
Last time I passed Betcoin Daily Coin Satellite - Step 1/3 and 2/3 but like always in step 3/3 I lose, looks like after first two steps I lose concentration. I have new ticket for step 1/3 so I will try again tomorrow.
Tonight is 250 GTD Weekly THANK YOU Freeroll, who will play this very nice tournament? Prizes are good, it`s nice cause there is never more then 15 players, no re-buys, poker for skilled players in my opinion. Until now I had second places, third places and above. Tonight I have some plans but if not this night then next sunday I will try to take first place. Good luck to all poker players!
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January 22, 2017, 07:54:53 AM
#38
Poker is 100% a game based on skill.

Losing hands can win the game by outplaying the opponent. This is not possible in chance based games.

No it is not 100% skill based game, you still need luck to win on poker. No matter how great you are in poker but luck is still involved on this game, otherwise all experienced players will never lost any single cents and newbie will never want to try this game.
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January 22, 2017, 06:50:38 AM
#37
Hard to play when it is online. You cant read the eyes of those you are playing with. So it is really different with real time poker. Tournaments will be better for the table would be full. So your way to win could be by reading the number of cards that will come out. But it will be really difficult also
Just because of this we call now its game of skill and luck both because playing online you have no too many options to show skill so you need some luck also if we playing in any casino then most probably skill works but as you playing online you need luck and skills both

Well this basically tells us that poker still is best played with live opponents as, with what both of you said, it would be difficult to read your opponrnt's expression which is what adds to poker's excitement. And i also agree that luck plays more part when you play online and it is also prone to manipulation. So for mr as someone who prefer poker among most kinds of gambling, i think playing it with rral people still is the way to do it.
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January 22, 2017, 03:28:34 AM
#36
Hard to play when it is online. You cant read the eyes of those you are playing with. So it is really different with real time poker. Tournaments will be better for the table would be full. So your way to win could be by reading the number of cards that will come out. But it will be really difficult also
Just because of this we call now its game of skill and luck both because playing online you have no too many options to show skill so you need some luck also if we playing in any casino then most probably skill works but as you playing online you need luck and skills both
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January 22, 2017, 03:20:32 AM
#35
Poker is 100% a game based on skill.

Losing hands can win the game by outplaying the opponent. This is not possible in chance based games.
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