Topic: Let's vote for a new mod for India (Read 992 times)

Thank you for bringing this up here, i was talking about this earlier in this thread about some responses i saw earlier and some thought i was declaring my loyalty towards theymos  .
We live in a country where things are twisted to suite their needs, i am talking about politicians  . I did not have the time to dig who posted that in this forum, i usually read everything that is posted when i get time but to search the content at a later time will be a task.

Everyone have their individual thoughts on what they like to do and i respect their decision. You cannot force anyone to do anything, if they chose to participate in this local board they can and no one is stopping them and no one is forcing either.

If the merit source is encouraging people to post better content and giving out merits then i will stop saying that  .
The fact is i really care less about meriting people for being active but if it helps in making this forum better, so be it.


To everyone who is complaining that there is not much content in this sub forum, you are welcome to start interesting topics and threads, rather than complaining about others, start yourself and be active and everything will fall in place.
when it comes to spam i will try my best to report everything i see as all of my reports are successful till now.

As legendster pointed out in kabit9 thread, not everyone (who are contributing to the global boards) are willing to reveal their nationality and indeed are cowards by just blending with the first world people in global boards.

There are varying reasons which I have analysed over an year as to why Indians are not posting in the sub-section dedicated for us :

[1] Some say "They are afraid of the government and if posting in Indian board would land them up in jail" : The IPs are associated only with theymos and it's literally a parallel universe possibility that we would all be caught for using bitcoin and the government would push us in jail.

[2] The topics doesn't generate enough interest and the board is infested with spams : The older topics have worn out and outdated, we should be responsible for creating new topics and reporting them until the topic gets pinned by global mods. IMO the board is 80% free from spam and there is always a decent discussion going through in all the sub-boards.

[3] Eventhough bounties are an absolute waste of time and energy Indian bounty hunters are still hunting for them. They can never be rectified upon, and should be neglected from contributing anything for the betterment of the board.

Note : For past 1 month I have been speaking with Gabru [IndiaBits admin] and there were a few questions put forward by me on why the prominent knowledgable IndiaBits members were not involving themselves in Bitcointalk. The answer was that, the quality of the board was diluted and there doesn't seem to be anyone moderating the board. But on other hand, theymos would never appoint a moderator without much noise and the prominent forums members who left the forum would never return back without the appointment of a moderator.

P.S I am in the verge of creating a topic which will brainstorm various ideas from everyone which could subsequently pave the way for a better board. People like Bitlover10 should start contributing again in the regional language sections and people like legenster should bring back their 2013 sort of topics again which will gain more interest towards a better discussion.

As always a Youtuber says, "People won't watch your videos initially, but at one point of time in future if you don't stop posting videos there would be significant views". This might be the only way which will bring back the Indian section as how it was during the Benson era.

That is i think the basic issue rather than just the lack of merit sources.

Right now, we simply don't have sufficiently diversified activity that would justify the size of our population, much like the Olympics. Much of it is due to the legal uncertainty. We do not have too many of the developer kind visiting the forum and talking about mining, mining pools, potential use cases, developer activity etc.
I don't think that the mods are interested till we sort this out and get more people interested in this sort of thing AND to find sufficient incentive for them to be a part of the Indian community. Thanks for your offer legendster. Will get back to you.


Right Heisenberg. The thing is that there aren't even enough people joining up and being active in the Indian sub to get to at least Member (10 merits). Most of the people posting frequently are the same motley group. This needs to change. Lets bump our heads together so see if we can do something about it.

That's the same thing I have observed over the months and have been trying to explain here all this while.
I don't see many posting here. It's just the same group of people who keep posting and replying to the threads.
If the Indian board is just used by a few people who keep posting in most threads then I don't know see it growing to be a bigger community.
We don't need a Merit Source as of now because we already have one but we do need people to actively post in the Indian board.

In other words, he is saying that if you are curious enough then do your own digging instead of asking someone else to dig it for you.

He would have otherwise obliged had you asked nicely, since that is not the case, expect exactly 0 help from him.

idk he might change his mind though.

What? You have irrefutable evidences and others will dig through the forum? What kinda joke is that? Either provide your irrefutable evidences to the community or STOP making claims that you can not prove!

That's quite a good sarcasm man.  I got to know about this the day I merited the post in which the source has themselves accepted they are indeed a source.

There may be certain queries that why I bump my merit source topic even after knowing there is an Indian source : It's because I don't have any merits left behind to merit a very few merit worthy posts which are being posted here. If I was on a posting streak (something like 15-20 posts per week) I would be facing no difficulties in spreading out the merits to every good post here. But the problem arises when I am inactive in posting and visit the forum only to report spams and merit a few posts.

I am awaiting for people to contribute since I have more than 15 smerits left with me to giveaway to everyone and help the Indians in ranking up. But to the contrary there doesn't seem to be not much of them posting anything really good here and subsequently there is far less activity in this board to spread out the smerits. I would be bumping the application only when I am in need of additional smerits and whenever I find some really good quality posts here.

The merit source is from India and they are pretty much active here in spreading out the merits here. 

They made their name public and they are indeed a source of merits.

Not exactly, no one makes stray statements here and there are irrefutable evidences which suggest we have a merit source dedicated to Indian sub forum. Just dig through various topics in Indian sub-forum you will find out who the source is actually.

No. There is no irrefutable evidence that suggests we have any merit source dedicated to India forum. One guy making some stray statement out of his imagination, does not make it a fact. There may be some global merit sources though, who visits Indian sub-forum, as it mostly runs on English, which is comprehensible to global merit sources.

I couldn't care less about what that guy thinks or wants people to do.

As for Merit source, I wasn't aware there is one and if your "little" is any hint then I think he's not from India but I could be thinking of someone else than who is actually refered to here.

Regardless, I guess we can also assume we need something for people to talk about here, without that, there won't be anyone to send merits to and it'll soon become a circle jerking club..

If the merit source made their name public, we could conduct a merit campaign, something like which was/is done for other local communities here.

Despite earning so much merit, I barely have anything left to send as I have only 3 right now.. sometimes I feel like just ditching everyhing else and dedicate all my time to go ahead and do more for this community, like I used to do, perhaps apply as a MS as well, but the recent events involving members from my own country discourages me to do anything like that.

So all I can do is perhaps share an idea with people like yourself (amish), eality, hiesenberg, etc and hope you guys can find the energy and motivation in yourself to act upon those ideas.

Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.

There's a simple solution to that. Stop drinking 

After all, we're Indians, we have a history of not being able to handle our drinks.

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But lest we divert from this topic, let's not bring this up again. The fact remains that we still need at least a merit source - if not a mod for this community.

Be easy on him bro.  As he said, he was in a party mood and had a few beers on 
LOL, I can't even read posts on bitcointalk while I am high. Tried it twice.

I quoted those incidents in a very India specific context @eality. The guy @escrow.ms had not scammed anyone on the forum here as far as you could tell from the opinion other members had about him. If you go through his case, he was simply screwed by the concerned local police. These things don;t even gain enough traction in our country when there is Taimur smiling or a rape-victim's relatives getting killed while a case is ongoing against a powerful MLA. So relying on "full support from everyone" is hardly the wise thing to do.

I do not worry about the country-ban resulting in me personally getting indicted if i use BTC to trade, yet I can understand if people would be concerned about the anonymity, fearing the typical high-handed approach that law-enforcers are allowed in our country.

I am not alarmist about the prospect of dealing in bitcoin. The case at SC has had some good progress. I will gladly carry on trade with BTC or be associated with it without any fear for my identity. Yet, if you are a very well known, old person on BTC forum, there is nothing stopping "law-enforcers" or "random strangers" making assumptions about the net-worth that can be coerced out of you. There have been physical attacks and that is why, if you intend to do any trades, best to put the cypherpunk ideals to practice.

PS: I agree that i took a swipe on you because your statement about Theymos seemed ill-placed. You quoted me as saying:
Never did i say that i fear for my identity as the owner of the forum may compromise it. I have followed theymos here and have read his posts at reddit etc. for a long time and am well aware of his commitment to privacy. My doubt was on the extents to which our own law-enforcement can go, not on Theymos. The case of law-enforcement officials using their findings to earn bitcoin for themselves are well known. You could read about the dirty cops who manipulated Ross Ulbricht..
So yeah, lets put it aside and be friends again..LOL..

@eaLiTy : About merit source

Recently I came across one thread and conversation there clearly suggest that we already have one merit source for Indian board. I don't want to reveal poster's name because it seems to me that s/he doesn't want to come out in the open as an MS, or maybe there are some other reasons.

Guess we all should stop saying that the Indian board needs at least one MS. 

Not active enough in Indian Sub-forum to vote for a moderator.

Regardless, it's not upto us. I just would like to add that we can certainly use a moderator here. and many of you would do a great job at it.

So hope Theymos hears about it. I will do my bit and drop a PM to him as well.


PS- it's not a paying job if some people mistake it to be. You will need to follow up a lot and be active here.

Good Luck

well I am not a merit source but I merited you for this looooong reply. But yes I agree with you. Not comepletely. But as far as theymos is concerned.. I have observed his actions for the past 2 years, that is since I joined. I never tried to interact with him but he seems like an anonymity oriented guy. He will not just wake up one day and decide to sell out to the government. These early adopters are anonymity-freaks.

Now you talk like Paparazzi media, taking words out of context   . I have seen a few responses in this forum about not visiting Indian sub forum because the government might ban bitcoin and the users will be targeted and such, if i find those response again i will quote here.
The context i said i trust Theymos is simply because i use this forum daily and if not for the trust no one would visit literally and the user i quoted was saying about jail term to be an active user or a Mod here, literally what it means is that even if the government targets anyone theymos will not reveal any IP details to anyone.

If the admin and the global moderators think that there is a need for a dedicated moderator they will appoint some candidate, all of my reports are taken care of in this sub section for the past few years and with more than 2090 reports with 99% accuracy and hence this is not a priority for them and hence they are not responding i guess .  If i see spam here i will make sure it will be cleaned and all of my reports are dealt till this time . All we need is a merit source to merit good posters here to have a healthy community and good activity and i have seen some application and i support them.

What is stopping you from trading here even if RBI does not comes clean, as long as you find a trusted escrow and trust the other person you can carry on with the deal. The point i made about trusting theymos must be crystal clear to you now, even if the Indian government bans bitcoin and if i make a trade through this forum, theymos will not reveal any of our details which will harm our identity and privacy. Hope this make you understand the bigger picture i said earlier.  

I never said bud that you questioned his genuinity or morality. The quote you said for fun was the context. I know it was a funny one but when i wrote this i was on a party mood and had a few beers.  



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amishmanish there is a point of legality and morality when it comes to anything in life, this forum (for most part but certainly i) will not support scammers and criminals like the names you mentioned and if there is any investigation against criminals then they will be weeded out, but if you are a genuine trader (investing and trading with your own hard earned money and not other peoples savings) and if any authority is trying to make your life hell because of technicality then there will be full support from everyone.

Not that I am voting myself for the mod position but just to say that I have started reporting a few posts lately too  
These are my stats.

I have reported 55 posts with 99% accuracy (52 good, 1 bad, 2 unhandled).
Long way to go I guess.


I don't quite remember when I posed a doubt against theymos. He is a genuine person and I admire him for his morales.
I never mentioned anything against him bud.

Thanks for your vote of confidence.

My recent negative tag for JSRAW is nothing that I can control. It is his choice to bring up an old mundane resolved issue that occurred on this forum even before he joined this place. Whom he chooses to negatively review is his business. It does not and should not reflect what I do for this community. And it should hold zero effect on my reputation and so it does.

With that said, I have never considered myself to be a forum moderator here. I don't tolerate bullshit and would permaban so many people. haha so it's best if I was left out of that conversation.

And when it comes to reporting.

I think HHunter or Amish has the highest report count. I only have 94% accuracy (352 good, 25 bad, 63 269 unhandled) as of now.

I'm not much active here in local, don't know who is active either. I know legendstar more than anyone probably because he is active in some more boards like service, reputation etc. But his recent negative tag isn't good at all for being a moderator. Otherwise, I would certainly name his name.
On top of that, active reporters must be given more value, we don't know who had most reports in Indian boards. However, I vote for newindia because he already has created a petition thread in meta, he must be a genuine guy here who will care about the forum.