Topic: Let's vote for a new mod for India - page 2. (Read 995 times)

That's true. Even though if a subpoena is issued by the Indian government to theymos (on very rare circumstances) for revealing the users location (who are not connected through TOR) theymos would be definitely against that and would be against the government doing that. This has been mentioned many a times by theymos himself that he would turn against the government if they are going to sue the citizens for using bitcoin or involved in bitcoin. I am well aware of the technicalities of keeping myself anonymous by connecting through TOR or though a VPN, but I don't need to hide away since the IP is visible to only theymos himself and none other than him can see that.

The foremost reason for most of them being inactive here is the un-controllable spam which was prevailing here all the days right from 2017.

I don't know where did you get this impression that we are posing doubt on theymos. LOL. Why bring the man in the discussion?

Knowing your IP address isn't the only way to ascertain identity out here. You should consider that it wasn't just the cypherpunks who joined this forum and not everyone was so diligent about privacy. Maybe you were. The "doubt" doesn't pertain to what you concluded man..Its about the amazing law-enforcement we have in our country. I am sure you've heard about the cases where the police personnel colluded to extort bitcoin from a Gujarati businessman.

Imagine if they were to ban bitcoin. There won't be any dearth of "genius investigators" who will jump to portray an anoymous forum as the den of money-launderes and criminals. (just to earn a few brownie points). Law enforcement in our country has a history of making people's lives difficult by making sensational announcements of success on highlighted issue. Remember how the UP Police botched up Ayushi Talwar investigation to declare "case solved"? This is not the USA where the cops chasing your car will ask "Sir, can i see some ID". There are no bodycams here. What they do is their own discretion and a lot depends on how connected or powerful you are as a person.

It may not be a real risk but this just goes on to show that its best to keep your identity seal-tight on the forum. You must be aware of the fact that Ross Ulbricht lost his identity here at the forum and I don't think he has seen the outside of a jail compound since then.

Do you know about the guys from "Darwin Labs" who were involved in providing software services to the GainBitcoin mastermind Amit Bhardwaj. Two of those guys are still in custody. Read about the travails of the guy escrow.ms on this forum who had to go through hell when Delhi Police rounded him up as he acted as an escrow on the forum.. All guilty by association..So frankly, its not about your or anyone else's trust on theymos. People should discuss and be aware of the potential risks that simply being "associated" can bring to you in a country like ours..Keep your records clean..Pay your taxes..Know what your are doing..That sort of stuff..

I do hope Theymos would someday see your post and acknowledge your declaration of loyalty../s LOL..

It'll be great though if he does. We'll have a better chance at getting someone to moderate the Indian sub. Although, there isn't much to moderate till the RBI comes clean on its stupid stance and we can have some real commerce going on here. It is all strangulated right now.

First and foremost i am seeing many people claiming that they are not active in this sub forum because they do not want to expose their identity posting in Indian sub forum, but the real fact is that if anyone wants to know their IP address theymos must provide them and i trust theymos than anyone else in this forum and i am hundred percent certain that he will not provide any IP address unless there is a fraud case against a user. So there is no point in having a doubt like that.

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.

LOL, it's hard for me to understand how can one possibly risk anything by just becoming a mod of a board. If I were given a chance I would gladly accept the position even if the term jail was 50 years for trading in crypto.
Because in my perspective, being a mod doesn't justify if you are trading crypto or not.

Doc, The legislation has not yet gone through..The highest court has ordered the central bank to explain "Why implement ban when you can regulate?".. The P2P exchanges are working alright and there is quite a lot of interest in bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies. So as of now there is no ban or threat of 10 year jail term..Though if a ban comes into effect, would they come to catch the "kingpin?".

Do you think that being a mod could be risky like that?

Saw that board a long time ago last year. I think the condition of your community has shifted a lot since then. Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.

In case any of you is not aware, there is already a thread asking for a new moderator of India forum in Meta - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-we-expect-some-active-mod-in-india-forum-3125174.

You all have been talking about electing a person to act as a moderator for the Indian sub board and clean the board by reporting unwanted shit posts and spams.
While this is an efficient way of eliminating the shit posts, it would be wise if we could bring in traffic in the Indian board and have active discussions over quality posts.
If more people make quality posts then there won't be enough space for shit posts lying around. So apart from concentrating on reporting shit posts, we should also pay more attention on bringing in some quality discussions.

To make the Indian Board cleaner and more active, we all have realized that the Indian Board needs an active moderator. In the process of choosing a good moderator, we also have to keep in mind some of the basics, which I keep in front of you as following points: -

1 He or She must be indian
2 He or She should be active in Indian Board
3 There should be no allegations on him
4 He or She should not be part of any troll or allegations.
5 He or she should have a good history in this forum
6 There should not be any kind of serious negative trust on him.
7 Must have the ability to understand the subject
8 He or she should respect the diversity of India, means, all languages ​​and cultures should be respected equally by him.
9 Apart from the English language, he should have knowledge at least two or more official language of India .
10 The most important point, he is be able to place condition of Indian board prominently on other boards and bring its importance to everyone.

I see Heisenberg_Hunter as a qualified and best candidate for Moderator of the Indian Board. The way he have assessed the status of the Indian board in the meta board and other boards further strengthens their participation. As far as the matter is Benson Samuel he is no longer active in this forum, so I don't think so he is a good candidate for Indian moderator.
I will vote for Heisenberg_Hunter ।

It will only start if Theymos takes a note just like you said and appoint someone to wipe the spam out from this local section. It's been 1 year or maybe more without a mod and there have been threads in Meta requesting for appointment of a new mod for Indian section but I guess it's not in Theymos priority list yet.

Deadly showed some interest here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32324011

Krishnapramod have a good amount of reports but it seems like he recently defaulted on a loan from condoras so I don't think it will be a good idea to choose him as a suitable candidate for moderator. : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/krishnapramod-372359

Precisely the same reason I posted a list of Indian members, more poster chipping here only then we can see notable activity in Our board. I am regular in Cricket community, and I see a fair amount of Indian users, will try to convey this msz to them and then it's up to them if they want to contribute in local boards.

A community means way more than just keeping the sections clean. In a community, people respect each other for whatever they are worth. They learn from mistakes, they move on. People build their opinion on personal experiences and so far, my experience has been - get extorted, get blackmailed, get tagged for shit you didn't do.

I'm sorry if this seems pessimistic but off late this is the kind of toxicity that has come out of this region. And this is not unique to this forum.


It will be a few years before the gov decides on what to do. Remember how long the case for Aadhaar actually took?


Despite his flawed sense of judgment. I still have no beef with Jrsaw. I chose to improve, he chose to ignore. So I move on. in my book, I win.



I can help on that end as I have had an extensive history with masternodes. I have helped out in the tech boards whenever I was able to.


Known him for a long time. Good guy but we have our differences. However, he is not untrustworthy.


Can do and have done.

But then again, it all comes down to what you enjoy doing and as I have mentioned before I certainly don't enjoy interacting with most Indians on this forum anymore.

Although there are many exceptions.


Maybe we can get the CK guys to sign up here or reveal their useri-ds here..

Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..

We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here. As a mod, I think it'll be much easier to organize the Child Boards. Weed out the unnecessary clutter, especially in the translation sections.

As of now, the regulatory framework is in a grey area so it is understandable that a lot of old people/ HODLers have gone inactive. Yet, we can create and outreach and make the India-sub a welcoming, informative as well as a sincere, authentic source of local information for newcomers.

For example, Someone like legendster and JSRAW could be the outreach for freelancing and work opportunities.

Heisenberg is delving into the technical and dev part and he could provide an outreach for interested developers. Dishwara seems to be pretty busy.

Deadley has been an old community/ campaign manager.

Then of course we need our local spam-busters and Scam-identifiers too.

We also have a host of CA's and Lawyers who bob their heads here and there at times.

We have a great group building out here. If Theymos took note, things can become a lot more organized and the India-sub could regain its true potential.

Good to see that the community is active here and i am sure if we collectively voice our opinion to theymos he will make a decision, there were chatters earlier about appointing a mod here but it was not a collective effort, i support anyone who will take his time to weed out the spam and make this a great local board, global mods are taking care of my reports here but it takes a couple of days and with 50 plus odd pending reports i usually pump my brakes   but it gets resolved eventually. If we have a dedicated mod here to take care of the reports that would be great.

Thank you JSRAW and Heisenberg_Hunter for the suggestion.

Benson Samuel is not active for a long time and i even asked his help when he was a mod here to clean this section but he was busy in real life and you cannot complaint him.

Muhammad Zakir is not active either, when he came online last year i tried to have a conversation with him and exchanged a couple of PM and then he disappeared again.

To make this local board great with quality posters, we need to have a merit source too and i have seen Heisenberg_Hunter merit application and i support him and hopefully theymos will hear our collective voice .


Anyone who wishes to contact me can reach me in telegram @eality

Patatas, even though composed at many times, is not suitable to be the Indian mod. He is not Indian and would not be able to connect with us here, understand the ground realities vs what he reads online.

Anyone that is chosen to be the Indian mod must at the least understand the difference between what's written on paper officially and how things work practically. Frankly - even you do not have that sense, else you and I wouldn't be having a point of contention about my past mistakes.

Second point, stop mentioning people's first name. This exposes their identity unnecessarily and could land them in hot waters or serve as ammunition for extortion, doxxing, personal attacks, like in the case of kabit9 vs me.


Lastly,

I would like to endorse Promod as well, but I have never seen him interact here.

Amish & Hunter are good choices, I would lean towards Hunter more than Amish because I have been noticing him from day 1. I believe his sense of judgment is not compromised. Neither is Amish's but I haven't had the time to observe him.

I am not endorsing anyone from this list for Indian Mod or anything. my point was to include other Indians as well in any process or any voting for future because 5 people taking participation in any voting doesn't make sense IMHO.

My apologies, I was under the impression that Joel is Indian. If he's not then yes doesn't make any sense.

And I suggest, At this stage let Amish or Hunter do the talking with the other members or promoting anything related to the Indian community because I am on hold regarding your trust ratings.

But if I have to endorse someone. Then I will go with the following users:

1. Promod: I haven't interacted him here, but I think I know him in real.
2. Hunter: Cool dude
3. amishmanish : sometimes he and Hunter both sound carbon copy to me. Both are cool.
4. Patatas : We talked a couple of time. Yeah, he has a temper but a reasonable guy.

Having said that in the end, it depends on the community or highest reports stats when opting for MOD.

If you are not Indian then you will not connect with the Indians. Suggesting Joel to mod Indian board is like asking King Arthur to speak Bhojpuri.

Also, Erika can't be a mod with his / her tainted trust.

The only one from your list that I could support is Pramod. But I have never interacted with him

Besides, guys like Patatas and I are kinda short tempered. We need people that are more diplomatic. So I'd like to interact with some of these people that you have suggested, before I rule out any other Indian on the list.

Reporter statistics is the primary consideration in the appointment of a moderator for any board. For instance, rickbig doesn't post much anywhere either in the English board or in the local board but based on his reports he is extremely well suited for the global moderator position.

If Muhammad Zakir was still active, he would have been the MOD without any further clarifications. Apart from him, I support krishnapramod, Eality, newIndia and deadly. Everyone miss a person like MZ (perfect example for being a MOD)  

I have PM'd theymos a day back requesting for reporter statistics in the Indian board, that should probably be helpful if we get a reply.

If we are going with the voting system, then I would suggest that we should inform other Indian users as well. otherwise, there is a high possibility that we could end up as a small group and then no one going to hear our side as a community and the last thing we want is eco chamber where we are cursing everyone about "nothing going to change."

Some members are quite active in the International community, and I respect them as a community member. We need to think about them as well and bring them back to the Indian community.

Please add more name to this list. We can use some support here, every member counts.

1. Joel_Jantsen  (i think he's DT2 as well) he's not Indian
2. patatas  
3. Juggy777
4. Haunebu
5. bryant.coleman
6. Vishnu.Reang
7. erikalui : (he's already active here i suppose)
8. akram143 : (Not sure if he's from Pak or India. will confirm.)
9. deadley
10. onrise
11. iamsheikhadil
12. avikz (he's active here as well)
13. Krishnapramod (if I am not wrong, then this guy has the highest report if that's a big thingy.)
14. Eality
15. newIndia

If we can bring good amount of users on the same page/same goal, then I am positive we can present our case better. In terms of Mod, activity, Merit source, etc. We are strong if we are working towards one goal together. The difference of opinion can happen, but we shouldn't change goal post at any cost.

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@Hunter  : Yeah, you are right. By " big thingy" I didn't mean to point out any disagreement, my main focus was to bring all Indian user back to the Indian board so that they can have their say in any decision-discussion in future.
 

There was one guy I hated.
He's a little trigger friend. But rich-af.
I used  to call him Dishwasher. lol but his id was Disawra or Dishawara or something.

Extremely knowledgeable about mining though.

Def. not one to moderate but would be nice to have him back.

Then there was Americandesi - the resident Ripple guy. Even had a ripple based forum. And Skang - who's a big shot these days.

infonetenergy was a frequent poster. I never interacted with him though.
Amitabh - the well respected phd guy turned altcoin stealer. ( I still can't believe)
subvolatil - the pink pony cypherpunk guy. (good guy)

dashingriddler - the guy behind unocoin if I'm not mistaken.