ooooh angelo..why oh why to you sound so ignorant and foolish for..
seems i talk more about the features and code and abilities and flaws of LN more then you do. and im not even a fan of the system,, all you seem to do is avoid aspects and features and flaws.
because whats seen in msat balance at GUI is not whats signed into the state!!
What's signed behind is signed in sats, not msats. It is rounded down. It has already been told to you like a gazillion times.
what is being signed (the state/commitment) is not signing a 1:1000 rate of msat to sat amount.. in the scenario i have told you about a gazillion times
go back and read the context of the scenario.. where n0nce atleast realised and agreed there is a difference between rounding and dividing
and that in LN they are 2 functions and both are performed
heck i even colour coded the differences..
seems you are ignoring parts to play dumb.
stop with the games and just have a proper think about things. do not hit reply until you can understand the whole thing. and dont reply if you just want to downplay it as a non flaw
i already understand and seen you try to ignore/downplay things a gazillion times .. so until you are ready to stop downplaying and actually have a proper risk aware discussion about a flaw there is no need for you to repeat your ignorance
i find it funny how after a few years now you have been promoting LN but not realised that what you broadcast is not also what you can revoke. because the revoke you get is against the other partys commitment not your.
i laugh that you dont realise when you get such revokes where you thought you had a revoke for the current stat at play
i laugh that you think that the only thing that msats do is "!round" and you did not know that there was a 1:1000 rate conversion involved.
please dont waste time on your LN promoting utopia games nor waste time on your bitcoin is unfit for normal use so offramp to LN as solution games.. and if you really care about your silly subnetwork. atleast try learning how it works
because trying to tell you lot about flaws wends up being teaching you lot how it even works because it seems you dont know. or just playing dumb to avoid talking about the flaws
meanwhile when someone pays me on the bitcoin network. its done settled complete.. i dont need faith, hope, trust, promises, or watchdogs or other party agreements.
ill stick with the bitcoin network
replying to below, and then just leaving you guys in your ignorance to play with your silly subnetwork of ignorance
i guess you enjoy ripping users off and not caring, by just saying its their own fault for not watching and checking things they cant see 24/7 . never blaming the flaw on lack of network security
He is actually currently making argument after argument about the horror of rounding down
I am back to ignoring him.
changing / 1000
to / 1,000,00
is not a rounding error
but your ignorance has been observed
there is no network level consensus system in LN that prevents a person from this manipulation. however in bitcoin there is many rules to prevent this type of crap you are trying to say is a user to blame fault..
My point is that with a compromised host, you can do all sorts of shenanigans, be it Lightning, Bitcoin L1 or anything else.
nope. bitcoin has a load of rules to prevent alot of shinanigans. . thats the beauty of bitcoin..
once a payment is confirmed. its done. no middle men no manipulations. no i wonder if i will still have my money tomorrow. no what if he did mess with my payment i received..
in bitcoin you get a payment and its a done deal. if you want to check you can check on different explorers.. with LN all you can do is trust the wallet your stuck with
if i was to say bitcoin security was a 9.5 of 10 due to some weaknesses of wallet stuff(10 being perfect)
here is how i would rank the other networks structures security
distributed/decentralised sidechains: 7
federated/centralised sidechains: 4
LN bridged to a mainnet: 2.5
custodian: 2