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Topic: LIGHTNINGASIC LA100M,100MHS SCRYPT Miner, USD1999; LA1THS, USD1750.shipped out! - page 45. (Read 309065 times)

SVK
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Get in ASAP is the only way then or not ?

It's hard to say how heavy the impact will be. I don't know what percentage of the network hashrate is in China...but you can bet that a lot of those GPU farms are going to be switching over ASAP. So we'll lose some GPU hashrate, but we'll gain MORE in ASIC hashrate.

There's only so much hardware they can reasonably produce in a given timeframe, though...so I'd expect a big initial "pop" in difficulty and then some slowing over time, until the other hardware makers get theirs into circulation. Once the other major players are in the game, it'll be the Bitcoin story all over again.

The question is, does the difficulty go up high enough to make the KNCMiner solution a less profitable use of $10,000 when it launches? It's a substantially higher amount of hashrate, but it's really hard to say what the difficulty will be when it releases. They've given themselves until the end of September by saying "Q2/Q3" so who knows? Alpha Technology still insists they're on target for July release, so that's a couple of months worth of difficulty increases...but they still need to address the competition with their plans regarding hashrate.

You are absolutely right about Scrypt to be like SHA256.

I'm just looking at it this way. If history repeat itself then we can say that KNC sha256 miners released in Oct/Nov made ROI and earned some coins for their owners. Ant's from Bitmain were not that good as KNC was.

Now we have this 64mh/s or 75mh/s miner coming out and it might be the same scenario. Who ever gets in first will get something out of it by the time KNC starts shipping their miners.

My 2 issues are:

1,This is going to be first batch of these miners so there are going to be issues (100% confident about this)
2, Pre-order (Get in stock and then start selling)
sr. member
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Get in ASAP is the only way then or not ?

It's hard to say how heavy the impact will be. I don't know what percentage of the network hashrate is in China...but you can bet that a lot of those GPU farms are going to be switching over ASAP. So we'll lose some GPU hashrate, but we'll gain MORE in ASIC hashrate.

There's only so much hardware they can reasonably produce in a given timeframe, though...so I'd expect a big initial "pop" in difficulty and then some slowing over time, until the other hardware makers get theirs into circulation. Once the other major players are in the game, it'll be the Bitcoin story all over again.

The question is, does the difficulty go up high enough to make the KNCMiner solution a less profitable use of $10,000 when it launches? It's a substantially higher amount of hashrate, but it's really hard to say what the difficulty will be when it releases. They've given themselves until the end of September by saying "Q2/Q3" so who knows? Alpha Technology still insists they're on target for July release, so that's a couple of months worth of difficulty increases...but they still need to address the competition with their plans regarding hashrate.
SVK
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There's no doubt that the Innosilicon hardware is deploying around China as we speak. Over the past couple weeks we've seen Litecoin's difficulty drop about 20% or so and now the predicted next difficulty is a gigantic leap from around 5250 to 6700 and climbing...no doubt the effect of Chinese farms decommissioning their GPU hardware and firing up their new ASICs.

By the time these systems are in peoples' hands in late May, we could be looking at five figure difficulty.

Get in ASAP is the only way then or not ?
sr. member
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There's no doubt that the Innosilicon hardware is deploying around China as we speak. Over the past couple weeks we've seen Litecoin's difficulty drop about 20% or so and now the predicted next difficulty is a gigantic leap from around 5250 to 6700 and climbing...no doubt the effect of Chinese farms decommissioning their GPU hardware and firing up their new ASICs.

By the time these systems are in peoples' hands in late May, we could be looking at five figure difficulty.
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Man, this is getting fun to watch ^_^
SVK
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spec upgrade.A2 chipset can run more fast.
Great 75MHS Scrypt Rack Miner Pre-order.
got better price of chips. and price adjusted.
64MHS, 450W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA75M - 9999 USD

Asia I'm a bit confused from this but that's ok Smiley

64MHS = 450W and ship out before May 20th.

but than you say

LA75M - 9999 USD.

So which one is shipping before May 20th 64MHS or LA75M ?

Does the LA75M has 75MHS or ?

How many WATTs for LA75M ?
(your site is down or unavailable)

Thank you

 
hero member
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sr. member
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spec upgrade.A2 chipset can run more fast.
Great 75MHS Scrypt Rack Miner Pre-order.
got better price of chips. and price adjusted.
64MHS, 450W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA75M - 9999 USD

15MHS Scrypt Blade Pre-order.
15MHS, 110W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA12M - 3000 USD

Scrypt Miner based on GC3355 stopped production.)


LA1THS, 1000W
1000GHS,
18KG.
rack case.
USD2899,


Hi Jack, I am a little confused on the 15Mhs Script blade specifications?
You say 15MHS Scrypt Blade Pre-order  but then pricing is LA12M - 3000USD?
This unit does NOT have the Gridseed chips? if so does it have the A2 like the
other dealers offering A2 @ 18Mhs? If A2 I would like to order one of these.
legendary
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Crypto Currency , Mining, Exchange ATM, Wallet!
spec upgrade.A2 chipset can run more fast.
Great 75MHS Scrypt Rack Miner Pre-order.
got better price of chips. and price adjusted.
64MHS, 450W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA75M - 9999 USD

15MHS Scrypt Blade Pre-order.
15MHS, 110W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA12M - 3000 USD

Scrypt Miner based on GC3355 stopped production.)


LA1THS, 1000W
1000GHS,
18KG.
rack case.
USD2899,
hero member
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Merit: 500
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the key is lead time. when the pre-order clietns just got the titan, my clients has make good profit. Titan needs at least 6 months.


Actually NO! You're bragging about your delivered miners but you deliver LATE and that is a fact just read how many people got their miners very very late not as promised ! At least in my case they came 2 weeks late and that after I was writing tens of mails to your support just enough to fuck up my projected ROI.

Your clients that you presume "did a good profit"  are still on  ROI time and far from "good profit".

Before blaming KNC for Titan's preorders and trying to rest assured the potential buyers please keep in mind that we will see the A2 Innosilicon Terminator chips on various mining machines in  1 (ONE) month if not sooner and I think you all read already about their chip efficiency. They are real : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXA_pV9CyMk




i already made ROI with hardware from jack, he delivered on time to me, stop hating around

i got my hardware in first batch, still haven't made ROI not sure how you did lol.

I was also one of the first few that ordered, and I haven't even ROI'ed HALF yet... But I mean I knew what i was getting myself into when i ordered.. I knew it was going to be at least 6 - 8 months before i ROI'ed....


I bought 60 miners for $15k

Not my smartest move

about 21MH/s for what was at the time, 21 BTC

So far i have mined back approx 5 BTC

Sadly ROI doesn't look possible for me

Delivery time isn't always the king

It was pretty obvious after doing some basic math that grid seed miners were a terrible buy that would never ROI in BTC. Best case, buyers should expect 9-12 month ROI. Worst case, they will get behind the difficulty curve and not even come close to ROI. In a month or two, those small gridseed units will be about as worthless as USB bitcoin miners after the big scrypt miners start getting delivered in quantity.
legendary
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Do you have photo's of LA12M and LA60M

What are dimensions/weight? Rack mounted? Or something else?
LA60M is rack case,
LA12M is blade.
no picture now. we use same case of LA220G for LA69M, LA12M is simillar as G-blade.
sr. member
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the key is lead time. when the pre-order clietns just got the titan, my clients has make good profit. Titan needs at least 6 months.


Actually NO! You're bragging about your delivered miners but you deliver LATE and that is a fact just read how many people got their miners very very late not as promised ! At least in my case they came 2 weeks late and that after I was writing tens of mails to your support just enough to fuck up my projected ROI.

Your clients that you presume "did a good profit"  are still on  ROI time and far from "good profit".

Before blaming KNC for Titan's preorders and trying to rest assured the potential buyers please keep in mind that we will see the A2 Innosilicon Terminator chips on various mining machines in  1 (ONE) month if not sooner and I think you all read already about their chip efficiency. They are real : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXA_pV9CyMk




i already made ROI with hardware from jack, he delivered on time to me, stop hating around

i got my hardware in first batch, still haven't made ROI not sure how you did lol.

I was also one of the first few that ordered, and I haven't even ROI'ed HALF yet... But I mean I knew what i was getting myself into when i ordered.. I knew it was going to be at least 6 - 8 months before i ROI'ed....


I bought 60 miners for $15k

Not my smartest move

about 21MH/s for what was at the time, 21 BTC

So far i have mined back approx 5 BTC

Sadly ROI doesn't look possible for me

Delivery time isn't always the king
legendary
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10k is much better but just for comparisons sake:

LightningAsic: 9999/60= 156.23/per Mh
Vendor A:       9995/300= 33.32/per Mh
Vendor B:       13817/500= 27.634/per Mh

If you started mining NOW it may take about 3-4 months to break even...a month from now maybe 5-6 months.
If the 300Mh/s miner ships July 15th as some say it will then  Cry

There is also a 500 Mh/s miner (from another vendor) supposedly shipping shortly after the 300 Mh/s one for $13,817.84
...if either one of these ship on time then Lips sealed Embarrassed Cry
give me the vendor name, and compare with the delivery date.
for Miner, the king is when delivery.take a look what happened last year for bitcoin miner.
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Great 60MHS Scrypt Rack Miner Pre-order.
got better price of chips. and price adjusted.
64MHS, 450W.
28nm Chiset.
ship out before May 20th.
LA60M - 9999 USD
...

Offer an Escrow ... to make sure you ship in time and I'm in.
we have shipped first usb miner based on GC3355 in the whole world.
and we shipped 1ths btc miner.
and now, we need good dealers work together to capture this scrypt miner chance.
legendary
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Use your Litecoin asic to pump your money instead of dump on litecoin.... I believe a visual may be helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-13PX0IDPY
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We must become the pitiless censors of ourselves.
Well I will wait until 20th May, and hopefully the price will go down even further


+1

If this ships by then, I think you could find a sweet spot for entry at $5k  45 days later if and only if the steroidal scrypt asics via KNC and the rest don't come to market until August/September.  We say a 50% price drop with LA3M about 45 days later with little outside pressure, so I think this could be a plausible and perhaps probable scenario.

I will buy if these things come together for sure.

PS sorry for the double post  Grin
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We must become the pitiless censors of ourselves.
10k on the 60MH units and you've got yourself some deals.

15k for 60MH is just ridiculous.

Ya. I have 11300 on 75MH.

^where and when and what?
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10k on the 60MH units and you've got yourself some deals.

15k for 60MH is just ridiculous.

Ya. I have 11300 on 75MH.
legendary
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Vendor B:       13817/500= 27.634/per Mh

There is also a 500 Mh/s miner (from another vendor) supposedly shipping shortly after the 300 Mh/s one for $13,817.84
...if either one of these ship on time then Lips sealed Embarrassed Cry

Wow, who is vendor B? Hadn't seen that yet. The max I had seen was KNC with 300mhs per device. Or do you mean mining asic technologies with 2x250?

Yup, didn't want to post other vendors in this thread as I thought that might be bad form.
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Vendor B:       13817/500= 27.634/per Mh

There is also a 500 Mh/s miner (from another vendor) supposedly shipping shortly after the 300 Mh/s one for $13,817.84
...if either one of these ship on time then Lips sealed Embarrassed Cry

Wow, who is vendor B? Hadn't seen that yet. The max I had seen was KNC with 300mhs per device. Or do you mean mining asic technologies with 2x250?
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