Topic: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. - page 3. (Read 285112 times)

Latest motherboard BIOS.  The MSI 890FXA-GD70 has some bugs that are fixed in that version.

http://bamter.org/redmine/projects/bamt/wiki/Hardware_Compatibility_List

has infos

Motherboard BIOS.  Later versions of the motherboard BIOS contain fixes which improve USB compatibility including booting from USB drive.   

Sorry I am not totally familiar with LinuxCoin, but its based on Debian so it really should work with nearly anything.  It also uses the iso-hybrid image type which works with almost every bios for booting (bamt does not).  So, if anything works, it would be linuxcoin, i think.

What I guess I meant was that if there is enough "bounty" that I can make a decent bit on generating a new LinuxCoin build, or on just reverse engineering the current one so the build process is open, I will gladly do it.  

I'm taking a road trip next month, florida to chicago to seattle and back.  So... maybe I will be near your town hah.  The travelling Bitcoin fixer roadshow.

Flashed to latest version of what? BAMT or linuxcoin?

MSI 890FXA-GD70 can have issues booting from USB unless you are flashed to latest version.

It is in the BAMT hardware compatibility list.

Well you already made BAMT and i get it. I've stopped with any harsh words. I am not an a-hole who thinks all of you guys who work hard developing free open souirce stuff deserve any shit from noobs like me.

I just can't f'in understand how something worked so well for me for months and now i can't get anything but windows to work.

I've used 4 different motherboards, switched out over ten different video cards, 5870's, 5970's, 6990's 6970's

2 different MSI 890FXA-GD70's and two asus p8p67 WS boards. I've switched out PSU's seasonic x1250's silverstone 1500 watt and seasonic 750 watt gold.

I just can't figure out why I have two machines running linuxcoin final without issue for months.
both on msi-890fxa-gd70's, one with 2 5970's and a 5870 in the middle and one with a 5870 on an extender in slot 1, 5870 in slot 3, 5970 with extender in slot 4 and 5870 in slot 5.

these run great, occasionally gpu's get too hot, I reset and bam everything is fine.

The only thing I can figure is that these are crucial 16GB flash drives. I started using transcend 16gb usb 3.0's got a few to work and now, not anymore, maybe it's the drives.

I have 4 rigs at another location all the same:

MSI 890FXA-GD70
amd sempron 145
2gb ram
16gb crucial flash drive
linuxcoin final
seasonic 750 watt gold
2 x 5970's with replaced thermal paste and pads.
using cgminer 2.0.7 800/300 fan at 85

These again occasionally have dead gpus, but a restart and they're good to go.

So WTF? Are crucial 16gb drives the only ones that work with linuxcoin final?

i use unetbootin 555 load the iso and then copy and paste the 2048 persistence file.

My linuxcoin drives now load to the unetbootin, I scroll down to persistent and then the graphic loads with the penguin or whatever and then black screen with Underscore in upper left hand corner.

So, yeah if you lived near me, I would pay you $100 an hour to come out, get all my rigs running perfectly with the optimum drivers for my cards and a stable mining OS with best power efficiency, that doesn't break down and only needs to be reset occasionally. Oh and using the newest cgminer.

How much will you pay?  If I can make a decent rate per hour's work, I'll do it.

I would pay part of a bounty for a new and improved linuxcoin, not restricted to p2pool or whatever as I don't want to deal with networking crap. I hate dealing with that shet. I know it's easy to everyone here, but DNS, MAC and that shit drives me mad.

I just want a plug and play linux OS that is like linuxcoin without any bitcoin software that is as stable as possible.

For some reason I have 6 rigs running linuxcoin final, but can't get a single new one running no matter what I do. I have three rigs running on windows now because of this and their power draw sucks.

I know BAMT is the answer, but I can't even get that to boot past the original screen and I don't need to remote in nor do I want to. I want a GUI I can work with because my machines live at my house, no need for remote access.

Correct.  The original author said he would share the source if someone wanted to continue the project, but he hasn't followed up on that.

Is there no one developing Linuxcoin further?

If anyone is interested, I've been working on a headless mining variant of this that uses p2pool.  It is still in early testing, but it offers some nifty features.

p2pcoin

Points taken, I'll shut up. I think my issue is with the asus P8p67 motherboard. I have limited problems getting MSI 890FXA-GD70's to work. I have over 6 GH/s going on three of those and another 5.5 GH/s at my friend's house. all 5970's and 5870's.

My frustration should not have boiled over to this forum or the community.

I apologize and should have known better, it's like firing off an angry email.

Again apologies to those who read my bullshit posts, I have received plenty of help here and people deserve better treatment.

Sincerely,

jjshabadoo

Um the special loader is a GUI app that you click on thumb drive, select image and hit the ultra complicated WRITE button.

As far as special libraries and stuff for windows I don't have a clue what you are talking about (and neither do you). You don't need anything except:
a) idiot proof image writer (has all of 4 buttons)
b) img file which is written to the usb drive.
c) $5 thumbdrive 2GB or more.


Why would mining go mainstream?  Over time efficiencies will force marginal miners (in terms of skill, electrical power, access to capital, and most efficient hardware) out.  It is no different than any other commodity based business.  Mining will become more and more specialized not less specialized.


99% of the population shouldn't ever mine.  99% of population can't configure a webserver but that doesn't mean they can't use facebook.  99% of population can't build a credit card processing terminal from scratch but doesn't mean they can't "charge it".  Within a couple years FPGAs will make GPU obsolete.  Within a few years after that even an FPGA will be insufficient as everyone will have one.  You will need low cost power, cool temps, and latest generation FPGA.  The network will always strive for more and more efficient systems.


Even if that were true the network doesn't need YOU to mine.  If there is profit those who can will mine.  If it is profitable for profitable miners to deploy another TH/s or 20 TH/s they will and if it isn't profitable then "ease of use" isn't going to magically make profits out of losses.

Also what makes you think botnets are bad for the network and most botnet zombies don't have high end GPUs.  As FPGA force GPUs out botnets will become even more marginal.


LOLZ.  The network could be half as large and be more than strong enough given the level of economic activity.

Mining is a zero sum game.  The network is 9TH/s right now because current economics support 9TH/s.  Making it easier for noobs won't make the network stronger, it will just push out other miners.

I'm not sure how you got that impression.  There is no "special iso loader".  There is nothing to install on a windows machine.

You download the image and write it to a key.  That's it.

My intent wasn't to piss on BAMT or linuxcoin, onbviiously i did. just 5 days now trying to get one or the other to work.

My issue is people saying it's "easy" well that's pure bullshit unless you have a lucky combo of hardware or really don't want to mine past 4 gpus.

It's also "easy" when you have a linux background. Most of us don't and if people want bitcoin to truly succeed past this speculative enthusiast phase, we have to get beyond expecting people to become programmers and linux experts.

Now having said that, my comments were out of line due to frustration. I just can't fucking understand why linuxcoin works fine on 6 rigs, but not two. That's just crazy to me.

I don't know shet about BAMT, but from what I see on the install instructions you need a special iso image loader and also need to add special libraries and stuff to your windows machine, that is just not "easy" for your average windows user.

I've had plenty of help and will just shut the fuck up about complaining about people doing open source work.

I will assure all of you though this thing is NEVER going mainstream unless you make it easy for people with basic computer backgrounds to use, mine and exchange bitcoins in a windows or apple environment without special tweaks, codes or files.

I am not an idiot and have built plenty of machines from basic office to over-clocked water-cooled systems. I own three businesses and am halfway through an MBA. If this is driving me insane you can bet that 99% of the population doesn't stand a chance.

If bitcoin gets back into the $20-$30 range the network will be hacked because there will be too much money involved for it to NOT entice someone to do so. If you don't think there are botnet people out there who control millions of machines plus have access to large amounts of gpu hashing power, you are naive. $200 million dollars is enough to entice most people to do anything, especially those with bad intentions.

This network needs at least twice as many tera hash to survive.

We also need more comprehensive databases to show complete hardware set-ups and their compatibility with specific mining clients/OS systems .

because, as you say, it isn't hard and its standing in between you and something you seem to want.

the way I see it, if whatever you were planning to do once/if the scripts for making linuxcoin were made public is not worth making the effort to just make your own 'linuxcoin inspired' image right now... well its probably not that important.

I know it isn't hard, but it's already been done.  Why duplicate his work? I've played around with BitSafe's live-build and its actually really easy to add things, so that's what I'm hoping for from LinuxCoin.

ah ok.  No sorry I don't have access to the live build config that generates lc.

OTOH, I would think if someone wanted to create an image very much like LinuxCoin from scratch, it would be a fairly simple process.
There is nothing stopping someone from just taking the package list from linuxcoin, i.e. dpkg --list, and using that as the packagelist to live build.
There would be a few other things not in apt, but not a big deal.

LinuxCoin uses open source, but the source to build a custom LinuxCoin iso/img is not available.  That is what I want.


The author said he would if there was interest, but then hasn't been back to the forums.

What part of LinuxCoin is not open source?  Last version I used was all open source stuff, as far as I noticed.

BTW - BAMT is definitely not a substitute for LinuxCoin.  BAMT is only for dedicated mining rigs, nothing else.  It doesn't provide any of the applications and user desktop type stuff that LinuxCoin does.  They are really two different things... LinuxCoin being a full desktop system with lots of bitcoin user tools, BAMT being a tool for miners only.