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hero member
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always the student, never the master.
December 29, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
Well at least your coin got listed

My coin was ignored / not just here on this list by many people I contacted.

This is a mans club , no women welcome

Fuck you all

Just a clone these nuts nigga, fuck you xorxor

Is this bitcointalk?

says a lot of you as person your on ingnore with me pall

you'll be sorely missed

you really gotta bug the crap out of xorxor if you want him to add your coin to this list. i wouldn't pay it much mind. OSC is ignored largely and is doing just fine. a coin can survive without these pumper biased fools if its worthy. I'm sure cinnamon coin will do fine.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 09:19:56 PM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin

After your post, I took my time to look more properly into the way NXT generates coins, especially what "forging" is supposed to be.

Interestingly enough, the current NXT thread uses the term "mining" several times (though stuff like their FAQ on the wiki makes it clear that "premined" is indeed not fitting). Instead of calling people who, thus, misunderstand the way NXT were available from the start "trolls", you should probably call out to whoever is maintaining the NXT thread.

Next, I'd like to inform you about the official NXT wiki linked in the thread, which contains the following statement regarding "premining":

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The only way to implement this form of currency is to issue all available coins in the genesis block.

I'm not too deep into the technical aspects of cryptocurrencies yet, but isn't that, on a technological level, the same as an instamined coin? Where's the technological difference to that? If it's the same, then why make a difference in regards to terminology to the other coins in the opening post, which are described using that term? And before you tell me "because NXT is not mined": couldn't I simply create a new crypto, make it 100% premined (thus making classical mining obsolete) and say it's not mined? How would that differ?

Last, forging does not generate new coins, but recycles those already available. You are free to watch their information video on how NXT is "mined" for that.

tl;dr: the way coins from NXT are available right from the start does not differ from the way any instamined coin is available right from the start, as far as I understand it. Thus, the coin should be described with the same term describing other coins which have some coins instamined. You guys are free to correct me on this issue. Still, even if I am wrong, there has to be a clear statement which tells someone looking at this list that NXT was at one billion coins right from the start, especially to clear up possible confusion and misunderstandings about its current, potentially misleading market capitalization.
+1 on this . its realy clear that its premined but anyway i think it will go up and up and make its developers too reach .
legendary
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It's about time -- All merrit accepted !!!
December 29, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Well at least your coin got listed

My coin was ignored / not just here on this list by many people I contacted.

This is a mans club , no women welcome

Fuck you all

Just a clone these nuts nigga, fuck you xorxor

Is this bitcointalk?

says a lot of you as person your on ingnore with me pall

you'll be sorely missed
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
December 29, 2013, 06:46:42 PM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin

Hey Pinarello:
Which coin is better eMu or Nxt?  Grin

Is emu still around?

in Beta.
Pin used eMu Avatar and wrote Nxt is the future, so i'm kinda confuse which side he's on.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
December 29, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin

Hey Pinarello:
Which coin is better eMu or Nxt?  Grin

Is emu still around?
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 264
December 29, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Sorting coinmarketcap.com by volume (descending) gives a far better picture of just how "important" each coin is. Even more so if coinmarketcap can implement 90-day average volume. (for new coins, this would be zero for how ever many days before launch).

(Note for example where ripple is on market cap, vs. where it is on a volume basis).
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin

After your post, I took my time to look more properly into the way NXT generates coins, especially what "forging" is supposed to be.

Interestingly enough, the current NXT thread uses the term "mining" several times (though stuff like their FAQ on the wiki makes it clear that "premined" is indeed not fitting). Instead of calling people who, thus, misunderstand the way NXT were available from the start "trolls", you should probably call out to whoever is maintaining the NXT thread.

Next, I'd like to inform you about the official NXT wiki linked in the thread, which contains the following statement regarding "premining":

Quote
The only way to implement this form of currency is to issue all available coins in the genesis block.

I'm not too deep into the technical aspects of cryptocurrencies yet, but isn't that, on a technological level, the same as an instamined coin? Where's the technological difference to that? If it's the same, then why make a difference in regards to terminology to the other coins in the opening post, which are described using that term? And before you tell me "because NXT is not mined": couldn't I simply create a new crypto, make it 100% premined (thus making classical mining obsolete) and say it's not mined? How would that differ?

Last, forging does not generate new coins, but recycles those already available. You are free to watch their information video on how NXT is "mined" for that.

tl;dr: the way coins from NXT are available right from the start does not differ from the way any instamined coin is available right from the start, as far as I understand it. Thus, the coin should be described with the same term describing other coins which have some coins instamined. You guys are free to correct me on this issue. Still, even if I am wrong, there has to be a clear statement which tells someone looking at this list that NXT was at one billion coins right from the start, especially to clear up possible confusion and misunderstandings about its current, potentially misleading market capitalization.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 03:37:51 PM
How do we stop a new coin every day? This will kill the whole idea eventually as it cannot be sustainable to have hundreds of virtual currencies?

I thought 30 was enough but now I don't even know what to buy/mine anymore.

The free market will fix it!
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
How do we stop a new coin every day? This will kill the whole idea eventually as it cannot be sustainable to have hundreds of virtual currencies?

I thought 30 was enough but now I don't even know what to buy/mine anymore.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
December 29, 2013, 02:38:23 PM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin

Hey Pinarello:
Which coin is better eMu or Nxt?  Grin
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 504
always the student, never the master.
December 29, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Just a clone these nuts nigga, fuck you xorxor

Is this bitcointalk?

says a lot of you as person your on ingnore with me pall

you'll be sorely missed
sr. member
Activity: 897
Merit: 284
December 29, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
It is plain dumb and misleading to call NXT "premined".
The "premining" of NXT is a deliberate design feature of the currency, there was really never any mining and never will be, that's the point.
EVERYONE was allowed to buy in, some did, a lot did not and now regret their decision not to invest in NXT from go.


Please stop spreading idiotic shit

+2
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
December 29, 2013, 10:57:31 AM
People who say NXT is premine can't even read! Define mining?! There's no mining in NXT but forging.
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 100
NXT is the future
December 29, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
NXT is NOT premined. You trolls should study again.


Pin
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 100
NXT is the future
December 29, 2013, 10:27:45 AM
Just a clone these nuts nigga, fuck you xorxor

Is this bitcointalk?

says a lot of you as person your on ingnore with me pall
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 09:58:17 AM
It is plain dumb and misleading to call NXT "premined".
The "premining" of NXT is a deliberate design feature of the currency, there was really never any mining and never will be, that's the point.
EVERYONE was allowed to buy in, some did, a lot did not and now regret their decision not to invest in NXT from go.


Please stop spreading idiotic shit

+1
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
NXT.org
December 29, 2013, 09:36:02 AM
It is plain dumb and misleading to call NXT "premined".
The "premining" of NXT is a deliberate design feature of the currency, there was really never any mining and never will be, that's the point.
EVERYONE was allowed to buy in, some did, a lot did not and now regret their decision not to invest in NXT from go.


Please stop spreading idiotic shit
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
December 29, 2013, 07:48:39 AM
Dogecoin isn't a major alternative. we've already seen a timetravel attack on the coin less than 48 hours ago.

Doge definitely has more than "some support by community" right now. It might (and most likely will) turn out to be useless financially in the long-run though, so I agree it's at least debatable.

I actually wasn't aware of an attack just 48 hours ago, could you provide a source?

Stablecoin is not innovative by any stretch of the word.

Since it's revival, there's a mixing service under development. That's definitely more than most clones have, which should be at the very least mentioned.

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Also, the list is lacking FedoraCoin (DogeCoin clone):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anntips043-required-hardfork-update-fedoracoin-euphoria-enlightenment-380466
sr. member
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1$ =1 MEC 2013 (2,56 $) 5$ =1MEC 2014 ?
December 29, 2013, 03:39:30 AM
Some stuff that should be changed, in my opinion:

  • you have to add that NXT was premined. It's noted for pretty much all other premined coins but NXT and that's simply misleading. The fact it's only traded on its own exchange should be noted as well, in my opinion. As far as I know, MasterCoin also never was mined and isn't traded on any exchange besides its own.
  • please remove MasterCoin from being on the same level as NameCoin and PeerCoin. That's just bull. The trade volume is closer to IFC, DOGE, etc. than NameCoin and PeerCoin by a LONG shot and the market cap cannot be compared to either. I'm not too deep into mastercoin, but as far as I'm aware of, there also hasn't been any notable media coverage either to justify it being placed on the same level as PeerCoin and NameCoin. Personally I'd also remove NXT from there for the same reasons, but it's at least somewhat debatable. MasterCoin is not, though, and simply doesn't belong there.
  • StableCoin should definitely not be "Purgatory", with all the innovation and development it received since its revival.
  • Doge should be at least a "Major Alternative", in my opinion (as of now) even on the same level as NameCoin and PeerCoin. The market is huge, despite being a "joke coin". It also received major media coverage in the past weeks.

+1

TRUE CRYPTOCURRENCIES
(Widely accepted, huge market cap)
 -BTC Bitcoin- First Succesful Crypto, The absolute number one. | over 50% mined
 -LTC Litecoin-  second only to BTC , fast. Mined on GPU(Scrypt). | over 25% mined

BIG and IMPORTANT CRYPTO'S
(big market and important innovation)

 -PPC PEERCoin- Original Proof Of Stake hybrid coin [innovative, low energy]
 -NMC Namecoin- Mined While mining BTC, used for alternative p2p domain system
 -QRK Quark- Mixed hashing, Mined on CPU's. Extremally instamined. | over 100% mined
 -MEC Megacoin- Well developed clone with good diff algo. 0 starting diff. GPU mined.  | over 50% mined
 -WDC Worldcoin- LTC clone. 30s blocks. 0 starting diff.  | over 10% mined
 -FTC FeatherCoin- LTC clone with 4x more coins. starting diff 0 | over 10% mined


BIG premined COIN CRYPTO'S
 -XNT Nxt- Not a clone, 100% new code, 100% PoS .
 -MSC mastercoin- Adds new functions to Bitcoin, operates on a bitcoin blockchain.

MAJOR ALTERNATIVES
(established, significant market)

 -NVC NovaCoin-  scrypt hashing[like LTC], proof of stake [like PPC]
 -XPM PrimeCoin- mining PrimeCoin helps looking for prime numbers, instead of wasting energy. CPU-mined.
 -PTS ProtoShares- Mined on CPU's, generates 10% premine on new relases.
 -DVC Devcoin- merged mined with BTC, 90% of generation goes to foundation, 10% to miners
 -ZET Zetacoin- BTC clone, ASIC-mined.
 -IFC infinitecoin- LTC clone with huge reward of 524288 and extreme fast reward drop.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1001
All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
December 29, 2013, 02:50:42 AM
Quote
BIG and IMPORTANT CRYPTO'S
(big market and important innovation)

 -PPC PEERCoin- Original Proof Of Stake hybrid coin [innovative, low energy]
 -XNT Nxt- Not a clone, 100% new code, 100% PoS .
 -MSC mastercoin- Adds new functions to Bitcoin, operates on a bitcoin blockchain.
 -NMC Namecoin- Mined While mining BTC, used for alternative p2p domain system

MAJOR ALTERNATIVES
(established, significant market)


 -QRK Quark- Mixed hashing, Mined on CPU's. Extremally instamined.
 -PTS ProtoShares- Mined on CPU's, generates 10% premine on new relases.
 -MEC Megacoin- Well developed clone with good diff algo. 0 starting diff. GPU mined.
 -XPM PrimeCoin- mining PrimeCoin helps looking for prime numbers, instead of wasting energy. CPU-mined.
 -NVC NovaCoin-  scrypt hashing[like LTC], proof of stake [like PPC]
 -WDC Worldcoin- LTC clone. 30s blocks. 0 starting diff.
 -FTC FeatherCoin- LTC clone with 4x more coins. starting diff 0
 -DVC Devcoin- merged mined with BTC, 90% of generation goes to foundation, 10% to miners
 -ZET Zetacoin- BTC clone, ASIC-mined.
 -IFC infinitecoin- LTC clone with huge reward of 524288 and extreme fast reward drop.

The 'deck' is obviously stacked. Or dare I say... conflict of interest ?

Or maybe this is the ponzi / premine 'best of' list... Roll Eyes

NXT ? IFC ? QRK ? ZET ? GTFO ! lolz


http://www.cryptmarketcap.com/

only mined coins :-)

There is more to it than that.

Was it easymined ? (This ones a biggie when dealing with fast halving coins.)

Who is the dev ? (Devs with newb accounts are likely socks.)

What innovation(s) does it provide ?

Is it stable ?

If so, does it have a healthy eco system ?

Thx for the link, btw. Smiley
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