Topic: List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign - page 23. (Read 32189 times)

Hello Yahoo,
I would like to give one suggestion, hope you would discuss it with YoBit management and implement if possible.
Currently posts for any account is counted and accounted for in YoBit panel in 3-4 hours. This opens the door for negative accounts and spammers to take advantage and withdraw payment for 10-15 posts before getting banned. Won't it be better if stats are updated after 24 hours (once a day would be good) so that you will have adequate time to ban anyone before he/she makes any withdrawal? This will help in longevity of campaign as well as reduce spam to certain degree.

I posted this in another thread yesterday

I also think rule 32 goes hand in hand with this definition. Whether it be in the same thread/post or multiple threads one after the other. There are a few rare users who can post one post after the other and it be constructive but in most cases that's not the case. I would be less apt to say anything to a user who wasn't wearing a paid signature. Just looks like a user is posting trying to get paid as much as possible, especially in a campaign such as cryptotalk with a 20 max per day possibility.

I really am not trying to ruin anyone's year by kicking them from the campaign, but the campaign is large and I will not go easy. Cannot really afford to be nice to everyone otherwise its anarchy.

Thread is locked so I cannot quote it, but here is a link to that thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52651203

Ultimately I have the final say on who stays or who goes if I am managing the campaign. There is no explanation needed by me nor anyone else. I am at least trying to be somewhat transparent for all of you whom have been banned from the campaign and showing reasons why you were banned.

I don't mind everyone having a conversation about reasoning but it does not change the outcome. Banned accounts will stay banned. You guys probably don;t realize how many people are watching the posters of this campaign. I get a load of pms a day reporting users to me. If they are pmming me i'll bet they are also reporting the posts. Not sure why some of you feel like it's the end of the world to be banned from a campaign. There are other campaigns, maybe you're mad because you cannot make a boatload of btc fast in the other campaigns? Whatever the reason be, you did this to yourself. I didn't nor did the company make you post a ton of shit fast. You made that decision on your own.

Yeah, I think 2 things are getting mixed up in here. May I ask your opinion about this discussion:





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People repeatedly say you're a [put forum rank here] member and you're expected to know "the rules", and accuse us of being account buyers and recommend us to go "buy some common sense from the market"!

All these, while the manager explains to someone that his ban because of spam/burstposting is according to rule 32, and rule 32 really feels like it talks about multiple posts in a single topic without anybody else posting between them, and not posts in multiple topics:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

So what ? This campaign is not the last campaign and this is not the end of the world. Life goes on !!!



You got it completely wrong. Rule no 32 is specific to this forum only while spam/ burstposting is a basic thing which every poster should know by themselves.  

Yeah it is simple case of life not being fair. There are noble laureates in the world as well. But not everyone were here early, like so many of these seniors and heroes. And now with a campaign like this. They are reaping the rewards.
Not much use in arguing this. I already said that chances of adding new user category to this campaign is almost as much as Craig Wright being Satoshi. Which is exactly zero..

Says "sent to" you, so I would assume just miscommunication? Unless he is saying he sent that to you and you completed the deal, but yeah don't think so..


Fair point, it's just migrating a couple (hundred? thousand? haha) people over to their forum.. Not a too big deal right noe. Maybe they got salty about have their signatures banned once and went all "blackjack,hookers,my place" kind of thing.

Not only full members but there are many members too who have more good writing skills than these Sr. / Hero Members but ranking up here is not so easy.
It may take time to grow here but if you do not lose hope then it is very much  "I M Possible"

If you ask me, if those full members are worthy, they will rank up and get the spot. I know it is not fair but life is not fair. Seems movie lines but is true. This campaign already has too many participants and too few managers. That being youtube yahoo. So I don't think to allow full members to participate would be any good.

Lets take the entire picture and analyze, the rules says that only Sr Members above can participate in this campaign. If you are the real member who created the account you are using and participated in this forum then you will understand there are some standards that you keep in this forum to get enrolled in a signature campaign. These people who are ignorant about these might have purchased these accounts and hence not aware of the rules and these rules are not created recently .

No one will jump you if there is logic involved, if not there will be a debate and if you can come up with logic which makes sense to everybody then it will be accepted. You do not need to give extra respect to anyone and i am sure no one will demand that here  .

Good to see constant one liners all over Bitcointalk aren't getting banned for spam as long as they keep it to an hour a post..


Makes sense!

That's not how it works. Users who continuously spam will likely  be temp banned before getting banned permanently. However, just because a post is one line long doesn't mean its spam in the eyes of the forum staff. It might be against the guidelines of the signature campaign, but not of the forum. The forum doesn't require you to write essays like some campaigns which require a minimum character count.

If Yahoo is removing users from his campaign, and believe that they are violating the forums guidelines aswell as his personal signature campaign guidelines then he can report them. I've got 10 reports in my queue right now because they require a little more investigation so if you want to report these posts that you consider spam then go for it!

No need for that. Everyone should already be aware of forum rules not just signature campaign rules. Is it really the Forum who must make some adjustments just because a certain company is running their campaign on it? Guess not.

Simply because majority of the participants are just being abusive. Also have you ever seen any banned participants who mostly contributes well on a certain topic? If yes then they should appeal.

Quality posts are rarely to be seen in that section, but I don't think that excluding those sections are to be considered. Besides we have a Manager here to check whether it is constructive or not, so it is not simply not wanting to post on that section, its just that most trash are there.

Yes, we do have something against that,... Because most of the times they were just alts of a certain campaign participant. But I don't think its necessary to include such rule, besides we have the SPAMBUSTERS CLUB. they'll get caught in no time for sure.

You don't have to explain rules to everyone all the time, its just a matter of common sense, the only problem is if they have such thing, and if not, maybe they can buy a 'common sense'  on the market.

Please do not overreact. 

Consider the whole picture before suggesting anything like this, because IMHO some of the people banned from this campaign didn't do anything wrong. They received an email from an exchange which encouraged them to take part in a campaign, they carefully read a few lines of rules and participated, and after a few days they saw that a moderator has removed them! They researched the matter to see what's going on (thinking it must be some mistake), then they came here and saw people are reporting activities which are against the rules that was never explained to them when participating!

Don't get me wrong. I understand the viewpoint of the people who complain, and the trouble that the manager is going through to make sure the campaign stays healthy. The only thing I'm saying is that these criteria must have been explained in the rules section of that exchange.

- You wanted people to make less than X posts / unit of time? You must have mentioned it in the rules. The only thing stated there is not more than 20 posts / day, and people are reporting users who posted 15 posts per day here!
- You didn't want people to make their posts in bitcoin discussion and altcoin discussion sections? Fine, explain that to people, cause they are frequently asked by other campaigns to post exactly in those sections, and maybe some of them think those are the most desired sections by any campaign.
- People are reporting users who have been inactive before this campaign. You have anything against that? Make a rule that any users inactive for X months/years are not allowed.

I hope you (and nobody else) take offense. I tried to stay polite and I really respect everybody since you're all BCT veterans around here.

Best wishes.

Hey YOSHIE, please look at the list before reporting a user. This user was banned a couple days ago.

I surely hope you're not accusing me of sending you this message. Nice way to ruin your account trying to make up a fake scam.

He is saying that the signature code that everyone sees on this forum does not say anything about yobit. So technically noone is advertising for yobit, regardless of where the payment is sent.

Of course, you will find links to Yobit exchange in posts published on the CryptoTalk.org forum and that the exchange wallet is used for the signature campaign also, but I was talking about something else.



TBH I just added "on the first page" sentence to make this fully clear, but the screen should be enough also.

I had no doubt that there are links to Yobit exchange in posts or CryptoTalk forum chat, but that are mainly forum members publications and not Yobit to trick people into registering or even visiting their exchange and this is what I meant and talked about. Of course, such a forum is a great tool for advertising and Yobit is free to do this, but as for now they are not and nothing indicates that they are using this signature campaign for this purpose, which is to advertise Yobit exchange and not the CryptoTalk.org forum. I hope it is clear enough now.

FYI, now, there is https://cryptotalk.org/topic/21-get-paid-for-every-post/page/10/?tab=comments#comment-7478.

Clearly the two are connected since payments for posting on cryptotalk are also done via yobit. I have also been paid for that bounty too, further confirming this..

I checked the ban list and there are many full members and member wearing the signature code, I hope in the future we can have a full member in the campaign, there are a lot of member and full member that are good posters they deserve to be in this campaign it's just that they can't reach the next level.

I said that and I also added "usually". If you doubt that the bitcoins from the mixers are considered “dirty”, just try to get them on almost any centralized exchange, but do not be surprised if you find your account is blocked and you are asked to explain the origin of the funds. There is also a feeling that you are confusing anonymity and privacy, although these are slightly different things. However, I appreciate both of them.

I do not blame anyone for the chosen method of earning, if this is not fraud, and I ask only about the same. I honestly do my job, follow the rules of the forum and the bounty campaign, and also follow the recommendations of the manager. If the cryptotalk.org turns out to be fraudulent, I will immediately delete my signature. I hope I have clarified my position on this issue quite clearly and there is no misunderstanding between us. 

Why you want to start yourself with fake respect  . Who told mixers are used by people who have gambling and drug addiction, it is called privacy and each and every individual have the rights for that. I am not sure whether your government have brain washed you saying that people who needs privacy are criminals  . I use bitcoin and if i am not comfortable using Monero then i will use mixers for my privacy and that is my choice.

Since Yahoo is managing the campaign regarding its quality i am sure he will take care of it. Even i PMed yahoo whether i could join the campaign but never heard from him, i know he will be busy dealing with the shit storm.

Edit: Joining the campaign as it is not promoting the exchange.

The campaign rules didn't say anything about multiple accounts but it says they will be removed if they'd have a negative feedback. 
So give them a negative feedback, not all of course but those who are obviously abusing the campaign.