Topic: Litecoin Is NOT Dead (It Is Just Dying A Slow Death) - page 15. (Read 28328 times)
Smoothie, this is the last thing I'll say to you. I know you always like to have the last word and prove me wrong in the final statements of our arguments, so I will let you have that privilege.
If you ever want to debate the reasons you support Litecoin, then door is always open. It's trolls like you why all these anti Litecoin threads are made to be self moderated. I haven't ever made a self moderated thread once in my life, as I am not ashamed and I know that I have a point here. Unfortunately, you don't want to talk about the subject at hand and can only insult me. That is not my fault, I tried to have an earnest debate with you, and you refused to do so. You look like a clown skating around the topic at hand with as many different ways you can think of to take the conversion off topic.
Cya buddy
If you ever want to debate the reasons you support Litecoin, then door is always open. It's trolls like you why all these anti Litecoin threads are made to be self moderated. I haven't ever made a self moderated thread once in my life, as I am not ashamed and I know that I have a point here. Unfortunately, you don't want to talk about the subject at hand and can only insult me. That is not my fault, I tried to have an earnest debate with you, and you refused to do so. You look like a clown skating around the topic at hand with as many different ways you can think of to take the conversion off topic.
Cya buddy
In no certain order... Counterparty, Mastercoin, Bitshares, Bitshares AGS, Swarm, Ethereum, Nxt, Maidsafe, Monero, and Zerocash. I am still deciding, but there's no reason why I couldn't support a few or all of these projects.. they are all much more interesting to me than Litecoin ever was. I am sure I'm forgetting a few too.. there are so many awesome new coins coming out.
Thats one of the reasons litecoin will still stay strong, too many other alts competing with each other, I've researched all of the above yet to find anything that isn't extremely flawed nor any innovation thats a real innovation. (btw not saying btc and ltc don't have there flaws, its my thinking that they are the best by far of a bad bunch).
If you don't see innovation in those crypto currencies (well.. maybe not Counterparty since it is similar to Mastercoin), then I don't know what to say to you apart from you need to take a closer look at them.
in·sult
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
You're getting more ridiculous with each post. Everyone here knows what an insult is, thank you. The only one that doesn't understand the definition of the word insult is you. I know you realized those were insults, but this is just further evidence that in your mind you are never wrong.
Whether something is true or not doesn't have any affect as to whether it is an insult or not.
Do you go up to fat girls and say "hey girl you're fat"?
That wouldn't be an insult, right? Because it's true?
LOL the insult is in the beholder of the offense being taken. I was speaking truthfully. Whether you were insulted is up to you to decide. But don't make it my problem.
I guess you aren't very thick skinned.
The perception of an insult is objective to the one taking offense (you), which I can't control.
I didn't mean you any disrespect but hey if you want to hang on to it have at it. No one is stopping you.
Tell me this:
How is it an insult if it is true?
How is it an insult if it is true?
Perhaps you need to learn the definition of the word insult.
An insult is directed towards disrespect. If all I did was speak truth then to me there was no disrespect.
If you took at it as disrespect then of course now you can play the victim game in your perception. Have at it.
in·sult
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
You're getting more ridiculous with each post. Everyone here knows what an insult is, thank you. The only one that doesn't understand the definition of the word insult is you. I know you realized those were insults, but this is just further evidence that in your mind you are never wrong.
Smoothie, it's time for an English lesson:
Whether something is true or not doesn't have any affect as to whether it is an insult or not.
Do you go up to fat girls and say "hey girl you're fat"?
That wouldn't be an insult, right? Because it's true?
In no certain order... Counterparty, Mastercoin, Bitshares, Bitshares AGS, Swarm, Ethereum, Nxt, Maidsafe, Monero, and Zerocash. I am still deciding, but there's no reason why I couldn't support a few or all of these projects.. they are all much more interesting to me than Litecoin ever was. I am sure I'm forgetting a few too.. there are so many awesome new coins coming out.
Thats one of the reasons litecoin will still stay strong, too many other alts competing with each other, I've researched all of the above yet to find anything that isn't extremely flawed nor any innovation thats a real innovation. (btw not saying btc and ltc don't have there flaws, its my thinking that they are the best by far of a bad bunch).
This is usually what people who play the victim do. They grasp at straws to find any reason for people to see the wrong in the other party even if what was said was in fact true and honest.
in·sult
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
verb
inˈsəlt/
1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
Where did I disrespect you by giving you my view of what you did? It is an honest view. Don't like it? Cry more please.
Seems that if I point out something CH doesn't want pointed out...it is an insult.
The butthurt and crying part are my perspective of what you did.
Never did I name call so I can hardly see how it is an insult if what I am claiming is true.
The butthurt and crying part are my perspective of what you did.
Never did I name call so I can hardly see how it is an insult if what I am claiming is true.
Tell me this:
How is it an insult if it is true?
How is it an insult if it is true?
Perhaps you need to learn the definition of the word insult.
thanks for this well reasoned post.
do you feel the added security of the litecoin blockchain with new asics on the way will prolong the life of litecoin, or accelerate its demise?
do you feel the added security of the litecoin blockchain with new asics on the way will prolong the life of litecoin, or accelerate its demise?
It's hard to say. I feel like in the long run it will be a bad thing, but the effects of the centralization of Bitcoin/Litecoin mining won't be felt for some time. As corporations, old money, and old money FIAT take over mining, the affects will start to show. At that point they are no longer decentralized currencies, it is moving that way already.
I think Litecoin will remain number 2 through at least the end of the year and possibly next year too. However, things are moving so quickly that it is completely possible that its demise could happen sooner rather than later. I think Bitcoin will be much harder to topple than Litecoin.
what I find odd is you already publicly declared you no longer support litecoin yet you still want to talk about it as if it matters.
insult #1, done in your usual satirical style... I still hadn't responded to any of your posts.
So why is it the few nxt fanbois constantly trolling the forum are the ones so concerned about litecoin's future
First of all, I am not a Nxt fan boi. I haven't decided which crypto will be the next one I support apart from Bitcoin, but I am leaning towards Counterparty, Mastercoin, Bitshares AGS, Swarm, Ethereum, or Maidsafe. Possibly Nxt too, although they have some trolls (which coin doesn't), they are doing some interesting and innovative things... the initial distribution is kind of a put off to me though. However, to be fair to them... everyone had a chance to invest and didn't.. that is not their fault.
Secondly, I think the Litecoiners are getting scared. They are getting more organized and are doing more projects recently than ever before. I think most of them can see the writing on the wall and are trying to "right the ship" so to speak. Not only have the Litecoin "haters" been more vocal as of late (which is totally understandable due to the points I've outlined ITT), but the Litecoin supporters are also being more vocal because their throne is being challenged. They are even sending people over here from their forums to try and prove me wrong: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20631.0
You think.
So you are just speculating.
Got it.
I'm a litecoin supporter and no I am not scared nor have I gotten the notion that the community for LTC is scared as well.
Anyone can go back into CH's post history on this forum and the Litecointalk.org forum and see how much Coinhoarder is butthurt. For what real reason I can't say for sure but what I do know is he tried to get the LTC devs to make certain changes to the LTC protocol and it fell upon deaf ears so he took his ball and went home crying.
Now he is here still talking about LTC even though he claims it will die. And instead of just seeing if his prediction is true and let it be he is still talking about LTC which is keeping it alive.
As long as people are talking about LTC or trading it or mining it...it isn't dead in my view.
insult #2 and #3, I still hadn't replied to you at the time.
I see value in some other alternative coins, and I even think some of them have a large chance to overtake Litecoin as people slowly realize that Litecoin is just one big marketing campaign. If your investment strategy is to look at coinmarketcap and choose the coins with the biggest market cap, then I don't feel like that is a smart investment. According to you, this is how "smart money" operates. However, I think the "even smarter money" does extensive research on all coins that are available and the ones in development, and then comes to a proper decision as to what they will put their money in. After doing this myself I have come to the conclusion that "smart money" isn't actually so smart afterall.
why should people listen to you who have been unsuccessful in your investments?
Are you part of the smart money crowd or are you not and just posturing to make people who are in the "smart money" crowd feel inferior with no basis for your claims but just "I think it is" and "I have come to the conclusion..."??
You can't preach on the topic of smart money if you yourself have not lived it and actually done it yourself.
It's like you preaching about marriage when you are divorced in your own personal life. It doesn't work as you are now disqualified as someone to speak on it and have any actual impact on the topic if your own track record proves to be the on the opposite spectrum of what you are discussing.
insult #4, I still hadn't replied to you at the time... this whole post is an insult.
Yeah Smoothie... I totally started this.
Tell me this:
How is it an insult if it is true?
thanks for this well reasoned post.
do you feel the added security of the litecoin blockchain with new asics on the way will prolong the life of litecoin, or accelerate its demise?
do you feel the added security of the litecoin blockchain with new asics on the way will prolong the life of litecoin, or accelerate its demise?
It's hard to say. I feel like in the long run it will be a bad thing, but the effects of the centralization of Bitcoin/Litecoin mining won't be felt for some time. As corporations, old money, and old money FIAT take over mining, the affects will start to show. At that point they are no longer decentralized currencies, it is moving that way already.
I think Litecoin will remain number 2 through at least the end of the year and possibly next year too. However, things are moving so quickly that it is completely possible that its demise could happen sooner rather than later. I think Bitcoin will be much harder to topple than Litecoin.
what I find odd is you already publicly declared you no longer support litecoin yet you still want to talk about it as if it matters.
insult #1, done in your usual satirical style... I still hadn't responded to any of your posts.
So why is it the few nxt fanbois constantly trolling the forum are the ones so concerned about litecoin's future
First of all, I am not a Nxt fan boi. I haven't decided which crypto will be the next one I support apart from Bitcoin, but I am leaning towards Counterparty, Mastercoin, Bitshares AGS, Swarm, Ethereum, or Maidsafe. Possibly Nxt too, although they have some trolls (which coin doesn't), they are doing some interesting and innovative things... the initial distribution is kind of a put off to me though. However, to be fair to them... everyone had a chance to invest and didn't.. that is not their fault.
Secondly, I think the Litecoiners are getting scared. They are getting more organized and are doing more projects recently than ever before. I think most of them can see the writing on the wall and are trying to "right the ship" so to speak. Not only have the Litecoin "haters" been more vocal as of late (which is totally understandable due to the points I've outlined ITT), but the Litecoin supporters are also being more vocal because their throne is being challenged. They are even sending people over here from their forums to try and prove me wrong: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20631.0
You think.
So you are just speculating.
Got it.
I'm a litecoin supporter and no I am not scared nor have I gotten the notion that the community for LTC is scared as well.
Anyone can go back into CH's post history on this forum and the Litecointalk.org forum and see how much Coinhoarder is butthurt. For what real reason I can't say for sure but what I do know is he tried to get the LTC devs to make certain changes to the LTC protocol and it fell upon deaf ears so he took his ball and went home crying.
Now he is here still talking about LTC even though he claims it will die. And instead of just seeing if his prediction is true and let it be he is still talking about LTC which is keeping it alive.
As long as people are talking about LTC or trading it or mining it...it isn't dead in my view.
insult #2 and #3, I still hadn't replied to you at the time.
I see value in some other alternative coins, and I even think some of them have a large chance to overtake Litecoin as people slowly realize that Litecoin is just one big marketing campaign. If your investment strategy is to look at coinmarketcap and choose the coins with the biggest market cap, then I don't feel like that is a smart investment. According to you, this is how "smart money" operates. However, I think the "even smarter money" does extensive research on all coins that are available and the ones in development, and then comes to a proper decision as to what they will put their money in. After doing this myself I have come to the conclusion that "smart money" isn't actually so smart afterall.
why should people listen to you who have been unsuccessful in your investments?
Are you part of the smart money crowd or are you not and just posturing to make people who are in the "smart money" crowd feel inferior with no basis for your claims but just "I think it is" and "I have come to the conclusion..."??
You can't preach on the topic of smart money if you yourself have not lived it and actually done it yourself.
It's like you preaching about marriage when you are divorced in your own personal life. It doesn't work as you are now disqualified as someone to speak on it and have any actual impact on the topic if your own track record proves to be the on the opposite spectrum of what you are discussing.
insult #4, I still hadn't replied to you at the time... this whole post is an insult.
Yeah Smoothie... I totally started this.
I've made my stance on the OP known. Jousting with CH is an endless argument much like I tend to have with Goat.
You guys aren't brothers are you?
You guys aren't brothers are you?
LOL I'm just here defending myself just like you do.
Fair is far right? lol
You obviously didn't like the fact that I chose to remain on the sidelines on my commenting in the future of LTC and where it will be. Honestly I don't care if it is #2. The fact that cryptocurrecy is alive and well and the genie is out of the bottle and I am a part of the movement is what matters to me the most.
Obviously your focus here is on LTC...which is lol..
Fair is far right? lol
You obviously didn't like the fact that I chose to remain on the sidelines on my commenting in the future of LTC and where it will be. Honestly I don't care if it is #2. The fact that cryptocurrecy is alive and well and the genie is out of the bottle and I am a part of the movement is what matters to me the most.
Obviously your focus here is on LTC...which is lol..
This thread wasn't about you Smoothie, it was about Litecoin and why I made the decision not to support it anymore. You came in here throwing around personal insults and made it about you, that is not my fault.
Yes, obviously my focus here is LTC, as stated in the thread title and the OP. That is how forums work.. the topic of conversation is normally aligned with the thread title and the OP. You are the one that has derailed the thread. If you notice before you came along I was having a healthy debate with members of the community about Litecoin. We weren't debating about Smoothie.
LOL you missed the part about where I said was here to call out bullshit (which by my reputation on this forum should be obvious)...the defending myself came after that as obviously you ended up bringing up a bunch of things about me which I then defended.
Whining about others not hearing you out and "ignoring" you or whatever is bullshit along with a bunch of other things you put in your OP. I agreed with a point or two but that was about it as most of your post was "pity me" themed.
LOL I'm just here defending myself just like you do.
Fair is far right? lol
You obviously didn't like the fact that I chose to remain on the sidelines on my commenting in the future of LTC and where it will be. Honestly I don't care if it is #2. The fact that cryptocurrecy is alive and well and the genie is out of the bottle and I am a part of the movement is what matters to me the most.
Obviously your focus here is on LTC...which is lol..
Fair is far right? lol
You obviously didn't like the fact that I chose to remain on the sidelines on my commenting in the future of LTC and where it will be. Honestly I don't care if it is #2. The fact that cryptocurrecy is alive and well and the genie is out of the bottle and I am a part of the movement is what matters to me the most.
Obviously your focus here is on LTC...which is lol..
This thread wasn't about you Smoothie, it was about Litecoin and why I made the decision not to support it anymore. You came in here throwing around personal insults and made it about you, that is not my fault.
Yes, obviously my focus here is LTC, as stated in the thread title and the OP. That is how forums work.. the topic of conversation is normally aligned with the thread title and the OP. You are the one that has derailed the thread. If you notice before you came along I was having a healthy debate with members of the community about Litecoin. We weren't debating about Smoothie.
CH to be clear so you don't waste time catching up, I never claimed LTC will be here as #2 crypto for years to come.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
You repeatedly resort to personal attacks when I am trying to have an honest debate. Typical Smoothie.
It is obvious to me that you can't really articulate your support for Litecoin, because you know that I would tear your arguments apart and you don't want to be embarrassed publicly like that. You can never be wrong can you Smoothie?
How can I be wrong if I never claimed anything? Please rip that apart.
You just wish you could get even with me as it appears you have some sort of whiney vendetta against me.
You're fooling yourself if you think you don't have some sort of whiney vendetta against me as well, I am simply defending myself. There is a fine line in between defending myself and having a "whiney" (which is not a word by the way, grammar king... death vs irrelevance) vendetta.
Exactly, you can't be wrong if you never claim anything, and that is why you are not claiming anything. You "don't have the time" to explain why, yet you have the time to argue about pointless shit like this. What a hypocrite.
LOL I'm just here defending myself just like you do as well as pointing out bullshit when I see it. Lots of it in this thread from your posts.
Fair is fair right? lol
You obviously didn't like the fact that I chose to remain on the sidelines on my commenting in the future of LTC and where it will be. Honestly I don't care if it is #2. The fact that cryptocurrecy is alive and well and the genie is out of the bottle and I am a part of the movement is what matters to me the most.
Obviously your focus here is on LTC.
If LTC succeeds great...if it doesn't then im sure something worth while will if Bitcoin is somehow unseated as #1.
CH to be clear so you don't waste time catching up, I never claimed LTC will be here as #2 crypto for years to come.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
You repeatedly resort to personal attacks when I am trying to have an honest debate. Typical Smoothie.
It is obvious to me that you can't really articulate your support for Litecoin, because you know that I would tear your arguments apart and you don't want to be embarrassed publicly like that. You can never be wrong can you Smoothie?
How can I be wrong if I never claimed anything? Please rip that apart.
You just wish you could get even with me as it appears you have some sort of whiney vendetta against me.
You're fooling yourself if you think you don't have some sort of whiney vendetta against me as well, I am simply defending myself. There is a fine line in between defending myself and having a "whiney" (which is not a word by the way, grammar king... death vs irrelevance) vendetta.
I don't like you because of one thing you've done to me, it is the culmination of things you've done to me and said about me over the years. You are always the first to start some bullshit argument with me and point out to everyone how horrible I am. This is not all in my head, as you have repeatedly done this to me over and over again.
Exactly, you can't be wrong if you never claim anything, and that is why you are not claiming anything. You "don't have the time" to explain why, yet you have the time to argue about pointless shit like this. What a hypocrite.
CH to be clear so you don't waste time catching up, I never claimed LTC will be here as #2 crypto for years to come.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
In fact I'm of the opinion I would rather see how things turn out than try to debate this as no one can actually predict the future 100% anyway.
It is pointless and a waste of time. Much like the majority of your OP was bitching and whining about how you felt someone or some group of people treated you wrong.
Stop crying and grow up.
You repeatedly resort to personal attacks when I am trying to have an honest debate. Typical Smoothie.
It is obvious to me that you can't really articulate your support for Litecoin, because you know that I would tear your arguments apart and you don't want to be embarrassed publicly like that. You can never be wrong can you Smoothie?
How can I be wrong if I never claimed anything? Please rip that apart.
You just wish you could get even with me as it appears you have some sort of whiney vendetta against me.
1. I never said you bribed anyone. Which proves your initial claim that I said you were bribing the Litecoin development team as false.
2. My post there was in context response to someone saying I was selling you short on why you left and his justification was that you raised money to donate to the litecoin development team.
3. You yourself even TOUTED that fact (you donated) as if that was some sort of justification on being heard and having a say in the litecoin protocol changes.
How many times have you brought up the fact that you donated LTC to the Litecoin development team while in the same post/paragraph talking about how they did not listen to you and that your ideas fell on deaf ears etc?
lol I just had a funny thought of your OP where you were crying about how Charlie ignored you and that he didn't give you the amount of attention/feedback/whatever you were expecting. lol So funny. Makes you sound like a little baby. Not that you are one. But we can let others decide for themselves what they perceive you as.
Personally I perceive you as a person who over promises and under delivers and whines and cries when any opposition comes your way. Not to mention likes to interpret what I post as one thing when clearly what I said was not what you claimed.
You do like to play the victim. Nice try but I don't fall for that BS.
2. My post there was in context response to someone saying I was selling you short on why you left and his justification was that you raised money to donate to the litecoin development team.
3. You yourself even TOUTED that fact (you donated) as if that was some sort of justification on being heard and having a say in the litecoin protocol changes.
How many times have you brought up the fact that you donated LTC to the Litecoin development team while in the same post/paragraph talking about how they did not listen to you and that your ideas fell on deaf ears etc?
lol I just had a funny thought of your OP where you were crying about how Charlie ignored you and that he didn't give you the amount of attention/feedback/whatever you were expecting. lol So funny. Makes you sound like a little baby. Not that you are one. But we can let others decide for themselves what they perceive you as.
Personally I perceive you as a person who over promises and under delivers and whines and cries when any opposition comes your way. Not to mention likes to interpret what I post as one thing when clearly what I said was not what you claimed.
You do like to play the victim. Nice try but I don't fall for that BS.
Personally I perceive you as someone that is very mean spirited, someone that likes to tell the world how horrible of a person I am, a stalker, and someone who changes the topic of the conversation when it doesn't fit inside their argument. So again Smoothie for the 10th time, why will Litecoin remain #2 for years to come? Do enlighten me... the fact that you keep shifting the topic of conversation tells me that you don't have any good reasons.
lol You are entitled to your opinion of me. You won't see me cry about it.
But I still think your view is warped of me lol.
Stalker? No more like an honest troll who likes to call people out for their bullshit.
You don't like me posting where you post? Do it on a non-public forum or medium that way you can have your privacy. Otherwise suck it up and stop whining.
If you remember I supported you while you were gone (MIA) and your hardware customers were lost on what was up with you. Yet you still claimed I attacked you. You cost them mining time and all you could say was "sorry" and sent them extra cables and a few small things to attempt to build a bridge with a toothpick.
I merely called it how I saw it and gave you the benefit of the doubt (prior to your return) which I linked you to. Of course that doesn't matter what matters is that taking attention off of your failures and putting the light on me is the best way to avoid your faults.
Even asking a question got you all riled up on your BTC design bounty. Good lord how touchy you have become.
Read my last post above where I explain my stance on LTC being #2 in the next years.
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