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Quote from: Haunebu on April 03, 2023, 03:09:58 AM

Quote from: tusandii on April 03, 2023, 01:54:37 AM

Playing slots with the aim of making money will end badly, that's right, friend, because expecting some money from gambling games is just a dream.
But when a Wanted Dead type slot that has high volatility is played just for fun it will also end badly because this type of slot game is difficult to win and has a fairly high minimum bet in my opinion.

It won't always end badly. I know someone who won huge amounts by placing small bets in slots which came out of nowhere and changed his life forever in a big way. It all comes down to luck at the end of the day.

Slots do have a higher house edge, but the rewards also tend to be on the higher side if luck sides with you. High risk, high reward basically.

Maybe your friend really has great luck in slot games, friend, so you can get big profits with only a small bet, it can even make a friend change his life.
But we don't know what he did before, whether he also had a big loss or not, what's clear is luck for you guys.
Sorry, you can't equate me or other gamblers with your friends, because everyone's luck and destiny will definitely be different, of course, so you can't compare it.
Not only slots but all games, the prizes also tend to be higher if luck is on your side, but if luck is the other way around then the prize for getting back the lost capital is difficult.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on April 02, 2023, 10:15:25 PM

By the way Rikafip, I imagine that you say this half jokingly, right? who does the spins has no influence on the outcome of the spins.

Being superstitious and doing all kinds of crazy things that you think will increase your chances of winning something are half the fun when it comes to gambling, at least for me. Grin

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Quote from: tusandii on April 03, 2023, 01:54:37 AM

Playing slots with the aim of making money will end badly, that's right, friend, because expecting some money from gambling games is just a dream.
But when a Wanted Dead type slot that has high volatility is played just for fun it will also end badly because this type of slot game is difficult to win and has a fairly high minimum bet in my opinion.

It won't always end badly. I know someone who won huge amounts by placing small bets in slots which came out of nowhere and changed his life forever in a big way. It all comes down to luck at the end of the day.

Slots do have a higher house edge, but the rewards also tend to be on the higher side if luck sides with you. High risk, high reward basically.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on April 02, 2023, 11:06:13 AM

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

I have played a number of times in types of slots that have high volatility but have never produced a win.

How many spin exactly? I spend more that thousand of spin on high volatility slots but same as you, I didn’t manage to land on any massive win. I usually play medium volatility slot game to have decent win with just using a normal bankroll. Don’t chase high volatility slot if you can’t afford to lose small bankroll. This type of slot is savage for beginners.

I tried high volatility slots for around 400-500 rounds and no more because there used a lot of bets for me so I didn't dare to decide to take more spins.
I know this type of slot is difficult to win, even to be able to get a return on the capital spent is difficult.
That's why I chose to stop playing high-voltage slot games.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Playing slots with the intention to make money usually don't end up good and its a bad strategy due house edge. Instead, people should see it as an entertainment (and gambling in general) as that's what it is. I used to be a regular at brick and mortar casinos (not so much in the last few years) but I never went there with intention to make money. Instead, it was more about hanging out with my buddies and having a couple of beers while playing slot machines.

Playing slots with the aim of making money will end badly, that's right, friend, because expecting some money from gambling games is just a dream.
But when a Wanted Dead type slot that has high volatility is played just for fun it will also end badly because this type of slot game is difficult to win and has a fairly high minimum bet in my opinion.
If you're playing slots just for fun, it's better to play pragmatic slots that have a fairly low minimum bet, such as Gates of Olympus, so that it saves you more money and if you're lucky, you can get quite a lot of multipliers.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on April 02, 2023, 11:06:13 AM

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Lol, Strategy on slot game is useless because there’s only one button on it which is the spin button. Using martingale and other shit betting strategy is useless on a game that is pure RNG base. You will just make your game complicated while you can enjoy playing without any critical thinking. Slot game is just based on luck regardless of its volatility. You can win huge amount using few spin on high volatility slot compared if you are lucky.

The only difference was you will not win frequently on high volatility slot while low volatility slot can give you a frequent small win per spin but in regard of winning huge amount they are just same pure random and no strategy can ever give you an advantage on this game.

yes, that's right, this slot game is purely RNG-based which generates random numbers and cannot be used with any strategy. even though slot games just click the spin button to increase or decrease the bet amount without any strategy or in other words this slot game is based on luck.
using that strategy would only be in vain.

Quote from: Rikafip on April 02, 2023, 11:07:11 AM

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Playing slots with the intention to make money usually don't end up good and its a bad strategy due house edge. Instead, people should see it as an entertainment (and gambling in general) as that's what it is. I used to be a regular at brick and mortar casinos (not so much in the last few years) but I never went there with intention to make money. Instead, it was more about hanging out with my buddies and having a couple of beers while playing slot machines.

I have also proven this when playing in high volatility slot games such as from the HackSaw provider this will end in defeat, but if when playing in this type of game I play happily while joking with my wife, this will result in good luck and I have proven several time.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 02, 2023, 03:07:39 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on April 02, 2023, 11:07:11 AM

Playing slots with the intention to make money usually don't end up good and its a bad strategy due house edge. Instead, people should see it as an entertainment (and gambling in general) as that's what it is. I used to be a regular at brick and mortar casinos (not so much in the last few years) but I never went there with intention to make money. Instead, it was more about hanging out with my buddies and having a couple of beers while playing slot machines.

Can't add more, I have been on the play for fun to play for profit situation. And I can attest that playing for profit often ends up badly most of the time. Unlike playing for fun, when a gambler shifted to looking for profit, he tends to spend way more than his budget allocation since he chases either to win or to recover his losses which ends up on losing more. Strategies are not effective unless it is to stop while we are winning.

I am glad that I am quite rational with gambling and only make controlled bets, which I can afford, very low in relation to my salary. Precisely, as we see in the forum, there is the paradox that people who put too much hope in gambling to win money end up with serious losses, the opposite of what they were looking for.

Quote from: Rikafip on March 29, 2023, 01:05:15 PM

<...> and in the end I end up with a little bit over $6 dollars so I think that next time I'll let her do all the spins. Cheesy

By the way Rikafip, I imagine that you say this half jokingly, right? who does the spins has no influence on the outcome of the spins.

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Quote from: Rikafip on April 02, 2023, 11:07:11 AM

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Playing slots with the intention to make money usually don't end up good and its a bad strategy due house edge. Instead, people should see it as an entertainment (and gambling in general) as that's what it is. I used to be a regular at brick and mortar casinos (not so much in the last few years) but I never went there with intention to make money. Instead, it was more about hanging out with my buddies and having a couple of beers while playing slot machines.

Can't add more, I have been on the play for fun to play for profit situation. And I can attest that playing for profit often ends up badly most of the time. Unlike playing for fun, when a gambler shifted to looking for profit, he tends to spend way more than his budget allocation since he chases either to win or to recover his losses which ends up on losing more. Strategies are not effective unless it is to stop while we are winning.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Lol, Strategy on slot game is useless because there’s only one button on it which is the spin button. Using martingale and other shit betting strategy is useless on a game that is pure RNG base. You will just make your game complicated while you can enjoy playing without any critical thinking. Slot game is just based on luck regardless of its volatility. You can win huge amount using few spin on high volatility slot compared if you are lucky.

True, being curious and wanting to win more, I had thought and tried different strategies and approaches in playing slots but due to the randomness of the result, it all failed.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

I have played a number of times in types of slots that have high volatility but have never produced a win.

How many spin exactly? I spend more that thousand of spin on high volatility slots but same as you, I didn’t manage to land on any massive win. I usually play medium volatility slot game to have decent win with just using a normal bankroll. Don’t chase high volatility slot if you can’t afford to lose small bankroll. This type of slot is savage for beginners.

If one is lucky a single spin can trigger the bonus round but it only happens once in a blue moon. Grin

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 01, 2023, 06:19:56 PM

So it is possibly Duel at Dawn or The great train robbery bonus that your wife had spawned since those two give 10 free spins.

Thinking about it now, I think it was indeed Duel at Dawn that gave us free spins.

Quote from: slapper on April 02, 2023, 04:57:04 AM

Congrats on your win! Looks like your wife has some serious luck on her side. Wives, huh? They have some kind of superpower when it comes to anything (especially with money). Maybe it's their intuition or their lucky charm. Who knows?

Hah I woulnd't call it serious luck when you win $5 on 50+ something spins, but it sure beats mine. Cheesy

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Playing slots with the intention to make money usually don't end up good and its a bad strategy due house edge. Instead, people should see it as an entertainment (and gambling in general) as that's what it is. I used to be a regular at brick and mortar casinos (not so much in the last few years) but I never went there with intention to make money. Instead, it was more about hanging out with my buddies and having a couple of beers while playing slot machines.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.

Lol, Strategy on slot game is useless because there’s only one button on it which is the spin button. Using martingale and other shit betting strategy is useless on a game that is pure RNG base. You will just make your game complicated while you can enjoy playing without any critical thinking. Slot game is just based on luck regardless of its volatility. You can win huge amount using few spin on high volatility slot compared if you are lucky.

The only difference was you will not win frequently on high volatility slot while low volatility slot can give you a frequent small win per spin but in regard of winning huge amount they are just same pure random and no strategy can ever give you an advantage on this game.

Quote from: tusandii on April 02, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

I have played a number of times in types of slots that have high volatility but have never produced a win.

How many spin exactly? I spend more that thousand of spin on high volatility slots but same as you, I didn’t manage to land on any massive win. I usually play medium volatility slot game to have decent win with just using a normal bankroll. Don’t chase high volatility slot if you can’t afford to lose small bankroll. This type of slot is savage for beginners.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on April 01, 2023, 06:19:56 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on March 29, 2023, 01:05:15 PM

So, today I played on Livecasino for the first time using those 125 free spins I got via signature campaign and playing Wanted Dead or a Wild game.

For the first ~70 spins I got maybe 40 cents back, and then I ask my wife to do some spins, hoping that she will be more lucky than me. She was more lucky, managed to get into some sort of free 10 rounds bonus (can't remmber how is it called exactly) and in the end I end up with a little bit over $6 dollars so I think that next time I'll let her do all the spins. Cheesy

Congratulations on the win, Wanted dead or a wild is a high volatility slots so it is normal to have zero reward spin, I also experienced the same with base spin. Unless I got into a bonus round, the slots rarely give me a good amount of winnings in its base spin. Even its bonus round has a huge chance of getting zero reward. I have watch lots of times a streamer gets 0 wins from their bonus buy round.

Yes, it's true that playing high volatility slot games like Wanted Dead does require a playing strategy and quite a lot of funds because this type of slot is very difficult to win and can even make gamblers who play there lose all their money without getting a win in buying bonuses or spins normal.
Slots with high volatility can only be won by gamblers who have luck but are supported by a lot of money so they can keep playing until they have the opportunity to get a big win when buying bonuses.
I have played a number of times in types of slots that have high volatility but have never produced a win.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 29, 2023, 01:05:15 PM

So, today I played on Livecasino for the first time using those 125 free spins I got via signature campaign and playing Wanted Dead or a Wild game.

For the first ~70 spins I got maybe 40 cents back, and then I ask my wife to do some spins, hoping that she will be more lucky than me. She was more lucky, managed to get into some sort of free 10 rounds bonus (can't remmber how is it called exactly) and in the end I end up with a little bit over $6 dollars so I think that next time I'll let her do all the spins. Cheesy

Congrats on your win! Looks like your wife has some serious luck on her side. Wives, huh? They have some kind of superpower when it comes to anything (especially with money). Maybe it's their intuition or their lucky charm. Who knows?
Whatever the case may be, going to the casino with a group of friends or family members is a lot of fun. They could also bring you luck, of course. Don't let your recent success slip away.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 29, 2023, 01:05:15 PM

So, today I played on Livecasino for the first time using those 125 free spins I got via signature campaign and playing Wanted Dead or a Wild game.

For the first ~70 spins I got maybe 40 cents back, and then I ask my wife to do some spins, hoping that she will be more lucky than me. She was more lucky, managed to get into some sort of free 10 rounds bonus (can't remmber how is it called exactly) and in the end I end up with a little bit over $6 dollars so I think that next time I'll let her do all the spins. Cheesy

Congratulations on the win, Wanted dead or a wild is a high volatility slots so it is normal to have zero reward spin, I also experienced the same with base spin. Unless I got into a bonus round, the slots rarely give me a good amount of winnings in its base spin. Even its bonus round has a huge chance of getting zero reward. I have watch lots of times a streamer gets 0 wins from their bonus buy round.

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She was more lucky, managed to get into some sort of free 10 rounds bonus (can't remmber how is it called exactly)

About the bonus round, there are three categories, Duel at Dawn, The Great Train Robbery, and Dead Man's Hand. If the bonus is about the collection wild and multiplier, it is Dead Man's hand, if it is the appearance of VS on reels, it is Duel at dawn and if it is the appearance of Stickied Wild on tiles, it is the great train robbery. So it is possibly Duel at Dawn or The great train robbery bonus that your wife had spawned since those two give 10 free spins.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 31, 2023, 06:59:50 AM

Yes but I think it's changing and more and more YTers/influencers/streamers are playing live casino games instead of slots. In addition to super stars like Drake or Snoop Dogg, now Neymar Jr is also doing streams of live casino gaming. So I think it starts to really become trendy. People like maybe more mature games with more social interaction and more guarantees to not be rigged. So I bet Livecasino is a great forerunner and will become a big and reputed casino in the coming years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBmgV0bCeY

https://www.skabash.com/neymar-cries-after-losing-n500m-to-online-casino-games-in-one-hour/

Watching Neymar livestream is very hard for me due to the language barrier. It seems he is enjoying on the clip video that you attached but his balance is already around 100K if I understand correctly his currency.

I notice the rise of streamers using live games instead of the typical slot games is indeed increasing since that’s what most viewers want. Live games is fast phase which can give a significant result in a blink of an eye compared to slot that you need patience to spin manually or hunt bonus. Also most of the streamers that doing bonus hunt on slot usually change game to live games at the end when they loss huge amount in slot and tries to recover it quickly on live games mostly blackjack.

I agree that Livecasino is already on the best position to capitalize on this live games trend. They just need to do partnership from streamers like what other casino doing right now.

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Quote from: slaman29 on March 25, 2023, 09:52:31 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on March 24, 2023, 02:49:42 PM

If they mostly look at what influencers, youtubers and streamers are playing, they will miss the good target IMO. Because those people are mostly watched by youngsters while table games are aimed at an older and more mature audience. And those two audiences don't share the same habits and interests. In addition, big stars like Drake or Snoop Dogg don't play slots when they do their streams, they play live table games.

This is what I was thinking! I can't even escape mobile game ads that are all about YTers and influencers playing slots. All obviously fake, going to an ATM or using a local bank app but withdrawing US dollars lol.

I don't think that is serious gambling or even sustainable, and completely different audience. You might get a kid playing his lunch money on slots but he'll lose everything, get his parents mad at him, and then he gives up or moves to a new slots scheme.

Table gamers and sports are long term loyal customers. Even dice!

Yes but I think it's changing and more and more YTers/influencers/streamers are playing live casino games instead of slots. In addition to super stars like Drake or Snoop Dogg, now Neymar Jr is also doing streams of live casino gaming. So I think it starts to really become trendy. People like maybe more mature games with more social interaction and more guarantees to not be rigged. So I bet Livecasino is a great forerunner and will become a big and reputed casino in the coming years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICBmgV0bCeY

https://www.skabash.com/neymar-cries-after-losing-n500m-to-online-casino-games-in-one-hour/

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So, today I played on Livecasino for the first time using those 125 free spins I got via signature campaign and playing Wanted Dead or a Wild game.

For the first ~70 spins I got maybe 40 cents back, and then I ask my wife to do some spins, hoping that she will be more lucky than me. She was more lucky, managed to get into some sort of free 10 rounds bonus (can't remmber how is it called exactly) and in the end I end up with a little bit over $6 dollars so I think that next time I'll let her do all the spins. Cheesy

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 24, 2023, 02:49:42 PM

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I don't think age or gender are taken the conclusion for which promotion.

Because, what casino want is the data for which sector game are giving them the most waggering/revenue. So, age (young or old) is doesn't matter for them since is normal things for gamble are not targeting age.

But they targeting which sector game are bring them revenue, and they're gonna to focus to give that sector game more promotion.

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Quote from: abel1337 on March 25, 2023, 03:01:30 PM

I think it will all depend on the gambler. There are so many slot games that is ready to play and the hard part of those games is memorizing the patters in winning and it's prizes since it vary from slot games to other slot games. Playing it blindly is easy but for those who want to strategize by jumping from different slots is not that easy.

I play lots of slots and memorizing the patterns on slots is very hard to do especially the megaways. I usually click spin then just wait on whatever profit I will get. Slots from AvatarUx and Nolimitcity are slot games that has a complex animation but very low return in terms of profit. Cheesy

There’s no define strategy on slot games since it’s an RNG based. Jumping different slot is the most common strategy to kill boredom and to aboid being soaked on losses.

Quote from: abel1337 on March 25, 2023, 03:01:30 PM

I also find live games to be more entertaining rather than slot games.

Same here. I preferred playing live games like crazy time and crazy coinflip rather than playin on slot too often because I don’t have much choices on my bet aside from changing bet amount per spin.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on March 25, 2023, 12:12:59 PM

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Profit: 0.624 mbtc

Congratulations on the win I have played one or two of the Onetouch slot game but even with moderate to low volatility I find it hard to hit the bonus round. As far as I remember I have to spin more than 500x before getting into a bonus round and the reward is somehow moderate just around 300+ multiplier. I continue to hunt for bonus until my bankroll is emptied. In short, I don't have a good winning experience yet after the first one I got from free bet, with this slot provider, but I can say the gaming experience is somehow satisfying.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 24, 2023, 02:49:42 PM

I personally think the reason why slots has such has demand is because they are easy to understand and there are a lot of entertainment elements that was placed into it (sounds, video, animations, etc.). And in contrary to what you said, I think slot games' are watched by any age. Guessing, there's probably more old and/or mature viewers on slots compared to live games.
Stats will tell though, but I'm lazy to search for that info rn.

Slots are created to entice players, many are attracted to it because of the factors that affect the senses of a human being. The sounds and music is good, the animation is also good, and the color pattern also attracts players. In short, slots is created to make the players hooked to it. Reason why the slot games is in high demand by all ages ever since.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on March 25, 2023, 11:41:36 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on March 24, 2023, 02:49:42 PM

I personally think the reason why slots has such has demand is because they are easy to understand and there are a lot of entertainment elements that was placed into it (sounds, video, animations, etc.). And in contrary to what you said, I think slot games' are watched by any age. Guessing, there's probably more old and/or mature viewers on slots compared to live games.
Stats will tell though, but I'm lazy to search for that info rn.

I think it will all depend on the gambler. There are so many slot games that is ready to play and the hard part of those games is memorizing the patters in winning and it's prizes since it vary from slot games to other slot games. Playing it blindly is easy but for those who want to strategize by jumping from different slots is not that easy. I also find live games to be more entertaining rather than slot games. Though I agree with the age, It's hard to identify but with all the games that streamer can stream, I don't think slots is enjoyable enough for youngsters who like to watch streams since there are better and more entertaining games that they can watch.

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